Republicans and the debt ceiling

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think we should make people work
If you’re in social security between 70-80 years old you can work a 10 hours a week, it wil be good for your health and for this nation.
If you’re on welfare you should work 25 hours a week, if you need childcare it will be provided for free
If you’re on SSI you can work at any McDonald’s and you will get free meals

People on welfare already work.

That you don't know that makes the rest of your post bunk.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why isn’t Biden on TV trying to sell his side to the American public? Is it because we elected methuselah?

Because he is really trying to negotiate a deal. Negotiating in the media is posturing, not negotiating.

I guess I remember Clinton and Obama posturing all the time and coming out on top more times than not. Meanwhile, Biden is about to negotiate away his only legislative accomplishment

Clinton did not posture while he was negotiating big deals with Lott and Gingrich in 1996. He let them pretend they won. Obama did not successfully negotiate anything significant with Republicans.

Oh the GOP won. Clinton bent spending downwards, hurting Democrat chances in 2000 so that Bush won. Then of course spending exploded along with tax cuts.

Then Obama caved and reduced spending, electing Trump and Republicans. Only for Trump to cut taxes and jump up spending right away.

The GOP recognizes the Democrat Party benefits from a good economy and from spending to help people. So they force either an economic disaster or huge cuts to Democrat programs. Win-win.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think we should make people work
If you’re in social security between 70-80 years old you can work a 10 hours a week, it wil be good for your health and for this nation.
If you’re on welfare you should work 25 hours a week, if you need childcare it will be provided for free
If you’re on SSI you can work at any McDonald’s and you will get free meals

Yes make granny with dementia work!! Put them and those crippled kids in the salt mines!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think we should make people work
If you’re in social security between 70-80 years old you can work a 10 hours a week, it wil be good for your health and for this nation.
If you’re on welfare you should work 25 hours a week, if you need childcare it will be provided for free
If you’re on SSI you can work at any McDonald’s and you will get free meals

People on welfare already work.

That you don't know that makes the rest of your post bunk.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure why pp contends this crisis is a total win for KM. He has a paper thin majority and is being held hostage in his negotiating powers by know nothing right wing extremists. How is this inability to lead in a rational good faith way a win?
I hope Biden finds a way to move forward with 14th Amendment .

Despite what Biden, McCarthy, and the media say, the 14th amendment says debts authorized by law must be honored. If Congress doesn't raise the debt ceiling, then any debts incurred by Biden do not have to be paid. Also, Biden is required by the 14th amendment to make payments on the current debt.

14th amendment does not abrogate separation of powers between the executive and legislative branches. The House plays a pivotal role in spending.

Even the lawyers at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave recognize that fact.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure why pp contends this crisis is a total win for KM. He has a paper thin majority and is being held hostage in his negotiating powers by know nothing right wing extremists. How is this inability to lead in a rational good faith way a win?
I hope Biden finds a way to move forward with 14th Amendment .

Despite what Biden, McCarthy, and the media say, the 14th amendment says debts authorized by law must be honored. If Congress doesn't raise the debt ceiling, then any debts incurred by Biden do not have to be paid. Also, Biden is required by the 14th amendment to make payments on the current debt.

14th amendment does not abrogate separation of powers between the executive and legislative branches. The House plays a pivotal role in spending.

Even the lawyers at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave recognize that fact.

The House already did that when they passed various budgets and unfunded tax cuts. The Congress has already obligated that the USG spend this money.

[Anonymous]

What happens when you default on your debts?

The banks raise your interest rates…

On $31 trillion dollars…

That will cost the United States more than any of the proposed spending cuts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why isn’t Biden on TV trying to sell his side to the American public? Is it because we elected methuselah?

Because he is really trying to negotiate a deal. Negotiating in the media is posturing, not negotiating.

I guess I remember Clinton and Obama posturing all the time and coming out on top more times than not. Meanwhile, Biden is about to negotiate away his only legislative accomplishment

Clinton did not posture while he was negotiating big deals with Lott and Gingrich in 1996. He let them pretend they won. Obama did not successfully negotiate anything significant with Republicans.

Oh the GOP won. Clinton bent spending downwards, hurting Democrat chances in 2000 so that Bush won. Then of course spending exploded along with tax cuts.

Then Obama caved and reduced spending, electing Trump and Republicans. Only for Trump to cut taxes and jump up spending right away.

The GOP recognizes the Democrat Party benefits from a good economy and from spending to help people. So they force either an economic disaster or huge cuts to Democrat programs. Win-win.

Clinton got the State Children’s Health Insurance Program and a minimum wage increase through a Republican majority House and Republican majority Senate in exchange for mild welfare and Medicaid reforms that Republican states were going to do anyway. He also got Congress to approve the tobacco industry settlement, which the states in theory could use to cover their matching funds for SCHIP but most states pissed away through their patronage systems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think we should make people work
If you’re in social security between 70-80 years old you can work a 10 hours a week, it wil be good for your health and for this nation.
If you’re on welfare you should work 25 hours a week, if you need childcare it will be provided for free
If you’re on SSI you can work at any McDonald’s and you will get free meals

People on welfare already work.

That you don't know that makes the rest of your post bunk.

Those rules were rolled back when Obama came into office, as part of the stimulus package.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think we should make people work
If you’re in social security between 70-80 years old you can work a 10 hours a week, it wil be good for your health and for this nation.
If you’re on welfare you should work 25 hours a week, if you need childcare it will be provided for free
If you’re on SSI you can work at any McDonald’s and you will get free meals

People on welfare already work.

That you don't know that makes the rest of your post bunk.

Those rules were rolled back when Obama came into office, as part of the stimulus package.

Wait I think the stimulus package didn't pass, so it was maybe the first budget.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why isn’t Biden on TV trying to sell his side to the American public? Is it because we elected methuselah?

Because he is really trying to negotiate a deal. Negotiating in the media is posturing, not negotiating.

I guess I remember Clinton and Obama posturing all the time and coming out on top more times than not. Meanwhile, Biden is about to negotiate away his only legislative accomplishment

Clinton did not posture while he was negotiating big deals with Lott and Gingrich in 1996. He let them pretend they won. Obama did not successfully negotiate anything significant with Republicans.

Oh the GOP won. Clinton bent spending downwards, hurting Democrat chances in 2000 so that Bush won. Then of course spending exploded along with tax cuts.

Then Obama caved and reduced spending, electing Trump and Republicans. Only for Trump to cut taxes and jump up spending right away.

The GOP recognizes the Democrat Party benefits from a good economy and from spending to help people. So they force either an economic disaster or huge cuts to Democrat programs. Win-win.

I missed those spending reductions. I remember it was the first trillion dollar budget deficits. Obama went from saying it was unpatriotic to have so much debt to doubling the debt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What happens when you default on your debts?

The banks raise your interest rates…

On $31 trillion dollars…

That will cost the United States more than any of the proposed spending cuts.

You have it backwards. All this debt makes inflation go higher and interest rates go higher.
On $31 trillion dollars.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why isn’t Biden on TV trying to sell his side to the American public? Is it because we elected methuselah?

Because he is really trying to negotiate a deal. Negotiating in the media is posturing, not negotiating.

I guess I remember Clinton and Obama posturing all the time and coming out on top more times than not. Meanwhile, Biden is about to negotiate away his only legislative accomplishment

Clinton did not posture while he was negotiating big deals with Lott and Gingrich in 1996. He let them pretend they won. Obama did not successfully negotiate anything significant with Republicans.

Oh the GOP won. Clinton bent spending downwards, hurting Democrat chances in 2000 so that Bush won. Then of course spending exploded along with tax cuts.

Then Obama caved and reduced spending, electing Trump and Republicans. Only for Trump to cut taxes and jump up spending right away.

The GOP recognizes the Democrat Party benefits from a good economy and from spending to help people. So they force either an economic disaster or huge cuts to Democrat programs. Win-win.

I missed those spending reductions. I remember it was the first trillion dollar budget deficits. Obama went from saying it was unpatriotic to have so much debt to doubling the debt.

It was the money spent in the wake of the 2008 finanical crisis that doubled the debt. Bush throw the grenade in on the way out the door. So sure, it happened when Obama was president, but he inherited it. No different than claiming that the shelves were empty during COVID so it was Biden's fault.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What happens when you default on your debts?

The banks raise your interest rates…

On $31 trillion dollars…

That will cost the United States more than any of the proposed spending cuts.

You have it backwards. All this debt makes inflation go higher and interest rates go higher.
On $31 trillion dollars.

The debt it already there. the inflation happened because of the recovery from COVID as evidenced by HIGHER inflation in other industrialized countries. If the Biden spending was the problem, the inflation would be higher in the US, but it isn't.

That said, we already have the debt. So causing an economic crash and driving interest rates higher and particularly the rates the US government pays, sim,ply means that that cost to service the debt goes up and the country gets less for its money, thus costing more than it does now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think we should make people work
If you’re in social security between 70-80 years old you can work a 10 hours a week, it wil be good for your health and for this nation.
If you’re on welfare you should work 25 hours a week, if you need childcare it will be provided for free
If you’re on SSI you can work at any McDonald’s and you will get free meals

You are an absolute ghoul.