Superbowl halftime - scantily dressed women and very covered up men

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I thought we were against private jets because, you know, the environment...

Shouldn't JLo have taken a boat or something?

Doesn't she already live in Miami?

we don't know if the pic was actually taken on that day.

My gawd you guys ruin everything.
Every. Single. Thing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What disappoints me about a current strain of feminism is this conflation between empowerment and marketing tools. Sex is a common and powerful marketing tool, initially exploited by men (bikini women draped over cars) and now also exploited by women. JLo is a total boss. She used sex to promote her show. Very successfully. That's not empowerment, that's capitalism.

What would have been empowerment, IMO, is to NOT use sex to promote the show. JLo says f&ck all you men. I'm not using my body in this way for your attention. I'm amazing without my crotch too.

But then it wouldn't have caused all this discussion and it wouldn't have given her the most media attention possible, which is what any performer wants.

So, it was a good show but very much the same old, same old. Not empowering. Just the same old "women are good for one thing" message.

What she was actually doing is saying... hey conservative women who have been controlled by men your whole life and told how you can dress and what you can do with your body... I can do whatever I want with my body and no man is stopping me.

Hey conservative men, I can actually do whatever I want with my body... think what you want but it's not for you, can't have it, can't control it, can't stop it.

Stop trying to tell women what to do with their bodies and stop blaming them for what others think while they do things with their body. You chose to think the things you think. The majority of the population did not think those things ... it's all on you, it's in your head, you created those thoughts and most people disagree with you.

Of course no man would stop that display. I’m sure the majority of men LOVED it. That was some free material for later.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What disappoints me about a current strain of feminism is this conflation between empowerment and marketing tools. Sex is a common and powerful marketing tool, initially exploited by men (bikini women draped over cars) and now also exploited by women. JLo is a total boss. She used sex to promote her show. Very successfully. That's not empowerment, that's capitalism.

What would have been empowerment, IMO, is to NOT use sex to promote the show. JLo says f&ck all you men. I'm not using my body in this way for your attention. I'm amazing without my crotch too.

But then it wouldn't have caused all this discussion and it wouldn't have given her the most media attention possible, which is what any performer wants.

So, it was a good show but very much the same old, same old. Not empowering. Just the same old "women are good for one thing" message.

What she was actually doing is saying... hey conservative women who have been controlled by men your whole life and told how you can dress and what you can do with your body... I can do whatever I want with my body and no man is stopping me.

Hey conservative men, I can actually do whatever I want with my body... think what you want but it's not for you, can't have it, can't control it, can't stop it.

Stop trying to tell women what to do with their bodies and stop blaming them for what others think while they do things with their body. You chose to think the things you think. The majority of the population did not think those things ... it's all on you, it's in your head, you created those thoughts and most people disagree with you.

Except most people think it was wrong to do -- IN THAT SETTING -- IN FRONT OF CHILDREN. I have no respect for any woman who rubs her crotch in front of my young children.

Please post your height, weight and current hairstyle

Different poster. Are you a teenage boy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I thought we were against private jets because, you know, the environment...

Shouldn't JLo have taken a boat or something?

Doesn't she already live in Miami?

we don't know if the pic was actually taken on that day.

My gawd you guys ruin everything.
Every. Single. Thing.

Lolol. Yes. For the old folks; this is an old photo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What disappoints me about a current strain of feminism is this conflation between empowerment and marketing tools. Sex is a common and powerful marketing tool, initially exploited by men (bikini women draped over cars) and now also exploited by women. JLo is a total boss. She used sex to promote her show. Very successfully. That's not empowerment, that's capitalism.

What would have been empowerment, IMO, is to NOT use sex to promote the show. JLo says f&ck all you men. I'm not using my body in this way for your attention. I'm amazing without my crotch too.

But then it wouldn't have caused all this discussion and it wouldn't have given her the most media attention possible, which is what any performer wants.

So, it was a good show but very much the same old, same old. Not empowering. Just the same old "women are good for one thing" message.

What she was actually doing is saying... hey conservative women who have been controlled by men your whole life and told how you can dress and what you can do with your body... I can do whatever I want with my body and no man is stopping me.

Hey conservative men, I can actually do whatever I want with my body... think what you want but it's not for you, can't have it, can't control it, can't stop it.

Stop trying to tell women what to do with their bodies and stop blaming them for what others think while they do things with their body. You chose to think the things you think. The majority of the population did not think those things ... it's all on you, it's in your head, you created those thoughts and most people disagree with you.

Except most people think it was wrong to do -- IN THAT SETTING -- IN FRONT OF CHILDREN. I have no respect for any woman who rubs her crotch in front of my young children.

Seriously it interferes with my children’s right to see mostly minority athletes sustain life altering brain trauma. When will someone stand up for traditional values?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What disappoints me about a current strain of feminism is this conflation between empowerment and marketing tools. Sex is a common and powerful marketing tool, initially exploited by men (bikini women draped over cars) and now also exploited by women. JLo is a total boss. She used sex to promote her show. Very successfully. That's not empowerment, that's capitalism.

What would have been empowerment, IMO, is to NOT use sex to promote the show. JLo says f&ck all you men. I'm not using my body in this way for your attention. I'm amazing without my crotch too.

But then it wouldn't have caused all this discussion and it wouldn't have given her the most media attention possible, which is what any performer wants.

So, it was a good show but very much the same old, same old. Not empowering. Just the same old "women are good for one thing" message.

What she was actually doing is saying... hey conservative women who have been controlled by men your whole life and told how you can dress and what you can do with your body... I can do whatever I want with my body and no man is stopping me.

Hey conservative men, I can actually do whatever I want with my body... think what you want but it's not for you, can't have it, can't control it, can't stop it.

Stop trying to tell women what to do with their bodies and stop blaming them for what others think while they do things with their body. You chose to think the things you think. The majority of the population did not think those things ... it's all on you, it's in your head, you created those thoughts and most people disagree with you.

Except most people think it was wrong to do -- IN THAT SETTING -- IN FRONT OF CHILDREN. I have no respect for any woman who rubs her crotch in front of my young children.

J.Lo has always flaunted her body. And she can. So good for her. But, the point is, you know this. So, unless your fingers were broken or your TV doesn't have an "Off" button, the only one exposing your children to the halftime show is you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread has been cracking me up.

Me too! I'm J-Los age. I workout like a fiend. I am a STEM professional and I LOVED the halftime show.

People are always, always looking for something to be offended by these days. I totally agree with the poster that said---wtf did you expect from J-Lo and Shakira? Sex appeal was part of the career trajectory for both of them.

Then--we had the Superbowl year where everyone was on here fat shaming Lady Gaga and talking about her 'gut'. You can't win with these m-f*ckers.

It must be absolutely exhausting to get so worked up all of the time about minor sh*t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how much age, as well as ethnic heritage, plays a role in some of the criticism.... Seems like there are women commenting on here who packed it in and gave up on themselves at a (relatively) young age. Seeing images of women (mothers) in their 40's and 50's being fit, good looking and moving like people half their ages should give pause to any woman who can't walk up the stairs without getting winded. They're pissed that they are frumpy and dowdy at 35 and they enjoyed it until last Sunday....

Oh shut up already. Anyone on this thread could look good with an entire staff at their beck and call to cook, clean, drive, provide childcare, etc. Jlo and Shakira are paid to look good - that’s why they spend hours at the gym everyday. They spend hours getting false eyelashes and hair extensions and manicures. If Jlo had to get up everyday to pack lunches, drive the kids to school, spend eight hours sitting at a computer followed by a few more hours of driving and sports practices and then three loads of laundry once she got home, do you think she would look like that? The only women I know who look great at mid-life either don’t work and have lots of dough or have eating disorders or both.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What disappoints me about a current strain of feminism is this conflation between empowerment and marketing tools. Sex is a common and powerful marketing tool, initially exploited by men (bikini women draped over cars) and now also exploited by women. JLo is a total boss. She used sex to promote her show. Very successfully. That's not empowerment, that's capitalism.

What would have been empowerment, IMO, is to NOT use sex to promote the show. JLo says f&ck all you men. I'm not using my body in this way for your attention. I'm amazing without my crotch too.

But then it wouldn't have caused all this discussion and it wouldn't have given her the most media attention possible, which is what any performer wants.

So, it was a good show but very much the same old, same old. Not empowering. Just the same old "women are good for one thing" message.

What she was actually doing is saying... hey conservative women who have been controlled by men your whole life and told how you can dress and what you can do with your body... I can do whatever I want with my body and no man is stopping me.

Hey conservative men, I can actually do whatever I want with my body... think what you want but it's not for you, can't have it, can't control it, can't stop it.

Stop trying to tell women what to do with their bodies and stop blaming them for what others think while they do things with their body. You chose to think the things you think. The majority of the population did not think those things ... it's all on you, it's in your head, you created those thoughts and most people disagree with you.

Except most people think it was wrong to do -- IN THAT SETTING -- IN FRONT OF CHILDREN. I have no respect for any woman who rubs her crotch in front of my young children.

Please post your height, weight and current hairstyle

Different poster. Are you a teenage boy?

No. Are you a Karen?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The shaming of women for speaking up and saying this kind of objectifying of women is not ok.

Just because I want to be seen as more than a sexual object does not make me a prude or an ugly old hag. Jesus ladies!

But, others don't see it the same way you do. You are working yourself up trying to convince people of something they will never believe. There is something amiss with you. Remember: the definition of crazy is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. You are being defeated. This can only end badly for you and your delicate sensibilities.

Newsflash - your opinion is not necessarily the “right” one. I know that’s hard to understand.

I know that and I respect your opinion. I disagree with you and no amount of bullying will make me see this the way you see it. Why don't you respect my opinion?

Saying “something is amiss with you” and “this can only end badly for you and your delicate sensibilities” are a very interesting way to show that you respect an opinion.

I was referring to your futile campaign to force people to share your opinion. I do respect your opinion, I just don't agree with you. I don't expect you to change your mind, but at some point you have to realize you are not changing anyones opinion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What disappoints me about a current strain of feminism is this conflation between empowerment and marketing tools. Sex is a common and powerful marketing tool, initially exploited by men (bikini women draped over cars) and now also exploited by women. JLo is a total boss. She used sex to promote her show. Very successfully. That's not empowerment, that's capitalism.

What would have been empowerment, IMO, is to NOT use sex to promote the show. JLo says f&ck all you men. I'm not using my body in this way for your attention. I'm amazing without my crotch too.

But then it wouldn't have caused all this discussion and it wouldn't have given her the most media attention possible, which is what any performer wants.

So, it was a good show but very much the same old, same old. Not empowering. Just the same old "women are good for one thing" message.

What she was actually doing is saying... hey conservative women who have been controlled by men your whole life and told how you can dress and what you can do with your body... I can do whatever I want with my body and no man is stopping me.

Hey conservative men, I can actually do whatever I want with my body... think what you want but it's not for you, can't have it, can't control it, can't stop it.

Stop trying to tell women what to do with their bodies and stop blaming them for what others think while they do things with their body. You chose to think the things you think. The majority of the population did not think those things ... it's all on you, it's in your head, you created those thoughts and most people disagree with you.

Except most people think it was wrong to do -- IN THAT SETTING -- IN FRONT OF CHILDREN. I have no respect for any woman who rubs her crotch in front of my young children.

Please post your height, weight and current hairstyle

Different poster. Are you a teenage boy?

No. Are you a Karen?

The Karen cop out is getting old.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how much age, as well as ethnic heritage, plays a role in some of the criticism.... Seems like there are women commenting on here who packed it in and gave up on themselves at a (relatively) young age. Seeing images of women (mothers) in their 40's and 50's being fit, good looking and moving like people half their ages should give pause to any woman who can't walk up the stairs without getting winded. They're pissed that they are frumpy and dowdy at 35 and they enjoyed it until last Sunday....

Oh shut up already. Anyone on this thread could look good with an entire staff at their beck and call to cook, clean, drive, provide childcare, etc. Jlo and Shakira are paid to look good - that’s why they spend hours at the gym everyday. They spend hours getting false eyelashes and hair extensions and manicures. If Jlo had to get up everyday to pack lunches, drive the kids to school, spend eight hours sitting at a computer followed by a few more hours of driving and sports practices and then three loads of laundry once she got home, do you think she would look like that? The only women I know who look great at mid-life either don’t work and have lots of dough or have eating disorders or both.

It's not about looking good, per se, but whether or not you can climb stairs without getting winded. You don't have to be thin to look good, btw.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What disappoints me about a current strain of feminism is this conflation between empowerment and marketing tools. Sex is a common and powerful marketing tool, initially exploited by men (bikini women draped over cars) and now also exploited by women. JLo is a total boss. She used sex to promote her show. Very successfully. That's not empowerment, that's capitalism.

What would have been empowerment, IMO, is to NOT use sex to promote the show. JLo says f&ck all you men. I'm not using my body in this way for your attention. I'm amazing without my crotch too.

But then it wouldn't have caused all this discussion and it wouldn't have given her the most media attention possible, which is what any performer wants.

So, it was a good show but very much the same old, same old. Not empowering. Just the same old "women are good for one thing" message.

What she was actually doing is saying... hey conservative women who have been controlled by men your whole life and told how you can dress and what you can do with your body... I can do whatever I want with my body and no man is stopping me.

Hey conservative men, I can actually do whatever I want with my body... think what you want but it's not for you, can't have it, can't control it, can't stop it.

Stop trying to tell women what to do with their bodies and stop blaming them for what others think while they do things with their body. You chose to think the things you think. The majority of the population did not think those things ... it's all on you, it's in your head, you created those thoughts and most people disagree with you.

Except most people think it was wrong to do -- IN THAT SETTING -- IN FRONT OF CHILDREN. I have no respect for any woman who rubs her crotch in front of my young children.

Please post your height, weight and current hairstyle

Different poster. Are you a teenage boy?

No. Are you a Karen?

I am the person who posted in the all caps. I am 5'6" and 130. I am 55 years old and have a 12 year old daughter. I would say I am pretty hot for my age...work out every day and take care of myself.

So, no, I am not a "Karen."

Now as for J.Lo, sorry, but she looks plastic to me. The extensive work she has had done on her face has makes her look almost alien like. I hope she stops, but I worry she might go overboard as she ages. Mind you, I have had some minor non-invasive cosmetic work done and have an unlimited budget if I wanted to have more. But I'm not in show business, so the pressure is off, and I can age gracefully.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how much age, as well as ethnic heritage, plays a role in some of the criticism.... Seems like there are women commenting on here who packed it in and gave up on themselves at a (relatively) young age. Seeing images of women (mothers) in their 40's and 50's being fit, good looking and moving like people half their ages should give pause to any woman who can't walk up the stairs without getting winded. They're pissed that they are frumpy and dowdy at 35 and they enjoyed it until last Sunday....

Oh shut up already. Anyone on this thread could look good with an entire staff at their beck and call to cook, clean, drive, provide childcare, etc. Jlo and Shakira are paid to look good - that’s why they spend hours at the gym everyday. They spend hours getting false eyelashes and hair extensions and manicures. If Jlo had to get up everyday to pack lunches, drive the kids to school, spend eight hours sitting at a computer followed by a few more hours of driving and sports practices and then three loads of laundry once she got home, do you think she would look like that? The only women I know who look great at mid-life either don’t work and have lots of dough or have eating disorders or both.

You need better friends, then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What disappoints me about a current strain of feminism is this conflation between empowerment and marketing tools. Sex is a common and powerful marketing tool, initially exploited by men (bikini women draped over cars) and now also exploited by women. JLo is a total boss. She used sex to promote her show. Very successfully. That's not empowerment, that's capitalism.

What would have been empowerment, IMO, is to NOT use sex to promote the show. JLo says f&ck all you men. I'm not using my body in this way for your attention. I'm amazing without my crotch too.

But then it wouldn't have caused all this discussion and it wouldn't have given her the most media attention possible, which is what any performer wants.

So, it was a good show but very much the same old, same old. Not empowering. Just the same old "women are good for one thing" message.

What she was actually doing is saying... hey conservative women who have been controlled by men your whole life and told how you can dress and what you can do with your body... I can do whatever I want with my body and no man is stopping me.

Hey conservative men, I can actually do whatever I want with my body... think what you want but it's not for you, can't have it, can't control it, can't stop it.

Stop trying to tell women what to do with their bodies and stop blaming them for what others think while they do things with their body. You chose to think the things you think. The majority of the population did not think those things ... it's all on you, it's in your head, you created those thoughts and most people disagree with you.

Except most people think it was wrong to do -- IN THAT SETTING -- IN FRONT OF CHILDREN. I have no respect for any woman who rubs her crotch in front of my young children.

Please post your height, weight and current hairstyle

Different poster. Are you a teenage boy?

No. Are you a Karen?

I am the person who posted in the all caps. I am 5'6" and 130. I am 55 years old and have a 12 year old daughter. I would say I am pretty hot for my age...work out every day and take care of myself.

So, no, I am not a "Karen."

Now as for J.Lo, sorry, but she looks plastic to me. The extensive work she has had done on her face has makes her look almost alien like. I hope she stops, but I worry she might go overboard as she ages. Mind you, I have had some minor non-invasive cosmetic work done and have an unlimited budget if I wanted to have more. But I'm not in show business, so the pressure is off, and I can age gracefully.

You left out your current hairstyle