War with Iran Part II

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Anonymous wrote:Netanyahu's call to Vance during the meeting shifted the focus from US-Iran negotiations to Israel's interests.

Disgusting.

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Now would be a good time for Congress to realize that this war is illegal under American law and not in our national interest.

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The Iran Lego videos are doing all of the work that the Lincoln Project and others tried to do to get the word out about trump. They are incredibly detailed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Reports on the US–Iran talks suggest a stark contrast in preparation,raising questions about which side is genuinely intent on reaching a resolution.

The US delegation arrived only on the 11th in a rush.
After landing, Vance is said to have taken a four-hour rest to recover from jet lag.
By the time he reached the negotiating room, the Iranian team had already outlined the main points for the opening round of discussions.

Sources claim the US had not even finalized the agenda with the Pakistani side beforehand and was instead working off a framework put forward by Iran.
This last-minute approach sits uneasily alongside the fact that the US delegation numbered around 300 people.

The US side reportedly brought only a few pages of broad, principle-based proposals, while the Iranian delegation arrived with extensive documentation and draft agreements.
Their materials included over 120 pages of technical specifications on nuclear facility safety alone, suggesting a far higher level of preparation and a clearer commitment to producing concrete outcomes.

This administration is sloppy and unprepared and thinks they can bully their way to what they want? Shocker.

But who needs those elitist experts anyway. /s

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Now would be a good time for Congress to realize that this war is illegal under American law and not in our national interest.

Maybe they should say congress has the constitutional right to declare war and vote, instead of watching where the wind is blowing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Once Israel got their war they've wanted for decades they weren't going to stop. We're trapped in this war with Israel. Ceasefire negotiations were just a charade.

Stop blaming Israel for everything. We are equally culpable. At least put half the blame on the US where it belongs. Trump has been hungering for this war for decades and he’s surrounded by idiots who think military raids are fun comic book missions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Now would be a good time for Congress to realize that this war is illegal under American law and not in our national interest.

More than 90% of congress takes AIPAC money, so that's not realistic unfortunately

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Anonymous wrote:Trump was originally slated to go, Vance was unable for “security reasons”. Then suddenly they send Vance. I think they know it’s hopeless and trump doesn’t care about Vance’s future. He wants him to take the blame.

Trump and the Iranian delegation together is a bad idea. They both are full of hubris, like to make threats, play act for the cameras and always have maximalist demands.

If you have been truly following what has been happening for the pat 40 days and not just talking out of your @$$, you would realize the Iranian delegation is smarter and more strategic than us even with, "the cards they have been dealt with," to paraphrase our urbane President.

The US military has been defeated. It performed worse than Russia. In fact if we had gone head to head with Ukraine, Ukraine would have won the war.

The sad part is that we cannot even quickly pivot. Our entire economic system is built to support large weapons manufacturers which are usless now in comparison to cheap drones. The mythology of our empire is built on saavy, handsome fighter pilots and those large weapons can no longer be updated because of the freeze on essential minerals and parts from China.

We are doomed.

Case in point:

American defense companies in shambles. Buying non-US weapon systems is going to be politically popular everywhere after a year of Trump. Can't imagine shareholders at Lockheed, Northrop, Boeing, and General Dynamics are thrilled with what Republicans are doing.

The idea that “American defense companies are in shambles” just isn’t supported by real‑world performance. When U.S. systems were actually used, they performed exactly as advertised: Patriot interceptors repeatedly stopped ballistic missiles, NASAMS and other U.S.-linked systems shot down cruise missiles and drones, and U.S. precision weapons like JASSM, Tomahawk, and JDAM‑ER consistently hit defended targets. The real critique isn’t capability, it’s cost per shot, because you can’t keep firing million‑dollar interceptors at $20k drones forever. That’s an economics problem, not a failure of engineering.

By contrast, the systems that did collapse under real combat pressure were Russian and Chinese. China’s HQ‑9B and YLC‑8B “anti‑stealth” radars failed catastrophically in Iran, unable to detect or intercept anything before being jammed or destroyed. Russia’s S‑300 and S‑400 batteries have been repeatedly wiped out by Ukrainian long‑range missiles: Neptune, Storm Shadow, ATACMS, even improvised systems, despite being marketed as top‑tier. Iran’s domestic high‑end systems (Bavar‑373, Talaash, Khordad‑15, Arman) also failed to intercept incoming strikes and suffered heavy losses. If anything, the last few years have validated U.S. systems and severely damaged the export credibility of their competitors.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Once Israel got their war they've wanted for decades they weren't going to stop. We're trapped in this war with Israel. Ceasefire negotiations were just a charade.

Stop blaming Israel for everything. We are equally culpable. At least put half the blame on the US where it belongs. Trump has been hungering for this war for decades and he’s surrounded by idiots who think military raids are fun comic book missions.

This exactly! MAGA cant accept that Trump is THE BIGGEST LOSER so they blame Israel. This war is on Trump, Hegseth and all the other lackeys who didn’t listen /fired experts. They have so idea about modern warfare or how to look at a map. We are in a whole new world and there is no spin that will make it go back.

Trump’s hubris has finally caught up with him. Unfortunately he’ll drag us all down with him.

He’s seriously F-ed us. Not Bibi, TRUMP.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump was originally slated to go, Vance was unable for “security reasons”. Then suddenly they send Vance. I think they know it’s hopeless and trump doesn’t care about Vance’s future. He wants him to take the blame.

Trump and the Iranian delegation together is a bad idea. They both are full of hubris, like to make threats, play act for the cameras and always have maximalist demands.

If you have been truly following what has been happening for the pat 40 days and not just talking out of your @$$, you would realize the Iranian delegation is smarter and more strategic than us even with, "the cards they have been dealt with," to paraphrase our urbane President.

The US military has been defeated. It performed worse than Russia. In fact if we had gone head to head with Ukraine, Ukraine would have won the war.

The sad part is that we cannot even quickly pivot. Our entire economic system is built to support large weapons manufacturers which are usless now in comparison to cheap drones. The mythology of our empire is built on saavy, handsome fighter pilots and those large weapons can no longer be updated because of the freeze on essential minerals and parts from China.

We are doomed.

Case in point:

American defense companies in shambles. Buying non-US weapon systems is going to be politically popular everywhere after a year of Trump. Can't imagine shareholders at Lockheed, Northrop, Boeing, and General Dynamics are thrilled with what Republicans are doing.

The idea that “American defense companies are in shambles” just isn’t supported by real‑world performance. When U.S. systems were actually used, they performed exactly as advertised: Patriot interceptors repeatedly stopped ballistic missiles, NASAMS and other U.S.-linked systems shot down cruise missiles and drones, and U.S. precision weapons like JASSM, Tomahawk, and JDAM‑ER consistently hit defended targets. The real critique isn’t capability, it’s cost per shot, because you can’t keep firing million‑dollar interceptors at $20k drones forever. That’s an economics problem, not a failure of engineering.

By contrast, the systems that did collapse under real combat pressure were Russian and Chinese. China’s HQ‑9B and YLC‑8B “anti‑stealth” radars failed catastrophically in Iran, unable to detect or intercept anything before being jammed or destroyed. Russia’s S‑300 and S‑400 batteries have been repeatedly wiped out by Ukrainian long‑range missiles: Neptune, Storm Shadow, ATACMS, even improvised systems, despite being marketed as top‑tier. Iran’s domestic high‑end systems (Bavar‑373, Talaash, Khordad‑15, Arman) also failed to intercept incoming strikes and suffered heavy losses. If anything, the last few years have validated U.S. systems and severely damaged the export credibility of their competitors.

To add, I think Netanyahu is a reckless, genocidal bastard, I think Trump is a horrifically ignorant and reckless, authoritarian bully sufferering from dementia, I think Pete Hegseth is a deranged, ignorant drunk, and JD is totally out of his depth but I absolutely do not agree with people trying to smear our military's capabilities. That's where you've gone too far into the world of fiction.

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Now Trump is trying to start a world war lmao.

“US President Donald Trump says the US Navy would immediately start blockading the Strait of ⁠Hormuz and would also interdict every vessel in international waters that had ⁠paid a toll to Iran.”

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2026/4/12/iran-war-live-historic-face-to-face-talks-with-us-continue-in-islamabad

And the republicans STILL aren’t ready to 25th.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Once Israel got their war they've wanted for decades they weren't going to stop. We're trapped in this war with Israel. Ceasefire negotiations were just a charade.

Stop blaming Israel for everything. We are equally culpable. At least put half the blame on the US where it belongs. Trump has been hungering for this war for decades and he’s surrounded by idiots who think military raids are fun comic book missions.

This exactly! MAGA cant accept that Trump is THE BIGGEST LOSER so they blame Israel. This war is on Trump, Hegseth and all the other lackeys who didn’t listen /fired experts. They have so idea about modern warfare or how to look at a map. We are in a whole new world and there is no spin that will make it go back.

Trump’s hubris has finally caught up with him. Unfortunately he’ll drag us all down with him.

He’s seriously F-ed us. Not Bibi, TRUMP.

It was Israel's idea
It was Israel that broke the ceasefire
It was Israel that assasinated the negotiators three separate times during negotiations

This is Israel's war against the world. Trump is the idiot being played. As the idiot being played he deserves blame for his own actions but Israel is the one that started this and doesn't want it to end. At this point they just might be the worst "ally" in history.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Once Israel got their war they've wanted for decades they weren't going to stop. We're trapped in this war with Israel. Ceasefire negotiations were just a charade.

Stop blaming Israel for everything. We are equally culpable. At least put half the blame on the US where it belongs. Trump has been hungering for this war for decades and he’s surrounded by idiots who think military raids are fun comic book missions.

This exactly! MAGA cant accept that Trump is THE BIGGEST LOSER so they blame Israel. This war is on Trump, Hegseth and all the other lackeys who didn’t listen /fired experts. They have so idea about modern warfare or how to look at a map. We are in a whole new world and there is no spin that will make it go back.

Trump’s hubris has finally caught up with him. Unfortunately he’ll drag us all down with him.

He’s seriously F-ed us. Not Bibi, TRUMP.

It was Israel's idea
It was Israel that broke the ceasefire
It was Israel that assasinated the negotiators three separate times during negotiations

This is Israel's war against the world. Trump is the idiot being played. As the idiot being played he deserves blame for his own actions but Israel is the one that started this and doesn't want it to end. At this point they just might be the worst "ally" in history.

What's the point in negotiations with the US if it's Israel in charge? Kushner and Witkoff are Israel assets and Vance called Netanyahu more than once during the meetings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Now Trump is trying to start a world war lmao.

“US President Donald Trump says the US Navy would immediately start blockading the Strait of ⁠Hormuz and would also interdict every vessel in international waters that had ⁠paid a toll to Iran.”

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2026/4/12/iran-war-live-historic-face-to-face-talks-with-us-continue-in-islamabad

And the republicans STILL aren’t ready to 25th.

I have to give Trump a gold star for creativity. As an inside the box thinker, I never would have thought of blockading the strait as the next move.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Netanyahu's call to Vance during the meeting shifted the focus from US-Iran negotiations to Israel's interests.

If Netanyahu is still bombing Lebanon then he needs to be prosecuting his own separate deal with Iran.