King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly I think Forestville ES parents are toast. This is an equity obsessed 12-0 Progressive School Board. If you live south of Route Seven you are you are 100% going to Herndon HS now. If there is any silver lining those North of Route Seven have a fighting chance.


Psst: your obsession isn’t happening. The focus isn’t on this area of the county. I’m so sorry to disappoint.

The serial-posting Langley parent is right. No need to stir up the hornets next while Langley isn't overcrowded. That can wait 5 years for the next review. Then 20171 will be first in line for a rezoning to Herndon schools.


+1 that it’s not happening right now. If you have current MS/HS you’re probably safe. But I do feel that if growth continues at Tyson’s and if students need to be shifted to Langley from McLean or Marshall’s current areas, or if Langley’s enrollment grows on its own, that Forestville would be the ones on the chopping block eventually.

But there’s no need to do anything right this second because Langley isn’t overcrowded. The focus of the current changes seems to be more along the lines of reducing the split feeders and attendance islands. They haven’t done much with capacity, even where it’s badly needed. And those kids are going to have a long bus ride wherever they live, just like kids in Clifton and Fairfax Station and in parts of the Oakton boundary as well.
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Anonymous wrote:This purchase is a coup for Fairfax County. This will be the nicest public school facility (of its size) in the County, perhaps in the entire State. The original build cost was around $100M (excluding $15+M in other improvements). If the FCPS tried to build something similar (they wouldn’t have, it’s too nice), I suspect it would have cost us taxpayers closer to $200M.



We are zoned for Crossfield/Carson/Oakton. It's hard to see how we can still go to Oakton with the Western High school.

(1) Carson is one of the better performing middle schools, even without the AAP kids draws from Franklin. I am counting on that the new HS would have a similar high performing student body out of Carson and it helps to keep the performance up.

(2) I agree the facility is fantastic. We went there during KAA's annual summer picnic/festival (we came back from Costco via Mclaren and saw the jump house and decided to crash the party), went inside for bathroom and it is smooth and shiny like a concert hall.

(3) however, I am worried about where the teachers would come from. As a middle aged professional myself, if I am comfortable at my current work place, with commuting all figured out, why would I move to a new office? So would new HS have relatively young teachers that would turn over quite a bit? Are first few classes of student become guinea pigs of the new teachers?


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Anonymous wrote:This purchase is a coup for Fairfax County. This will be the nicest public school facility (of its size) in the County, perhaps in the entire State. The original build cost was around $100M (excluding $15+M in other improvements). If the FCPS tried to build something similar (they wouldn’t have, it’s too nice), I suspect it would have cost us taxpayers closer to $200M.



We are zoned for Crossfield/Carson/Oakton. It's hard to see how we can still go to Oakton with the Western High school.

(1) Carson is one of the better performing middle schools, even without the AAP kids draws from Franklin. I am counting on that the new HS would have a similar high performing student body out of Carson and it helps to keep the performance up.

(2) I agree the facility is fantastic. We went there during KAA's annual summer picnic/festival (we came back from Costco via Mclaren and saw the jump house and decided to crash the party), went inside for bathroom and it is smooth and shiny like a concert hall.

(3) however, I am worried about where the teachers would come from. As a middle aged professional myself, if I am comfortable at my current work place, with commuting all figured out, why would I move to a new office? So would new HS have relatively young teachers that would turn over quite a bit? Are first few classes of student become guinea pigs of the new teachers?




Teachers would be screaming to get into that school. And, this will not mean a need for more teachers--there will be shifting because of the schools that will lose personnel due to loss of membership.
When Westfield was built, a number of strong teachers and, at least one strong counselor, moved to Westfield. They had great administration then--which, in my opinion, is key.
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And, remember, THRU is proposing major changes across FCPS. All of these will require staffing adjustments.
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Anonymous wrote:This purchase is a coup for Fairfax County. This will be the nicest public school facility (of its size) in the County, perhaps in the entire State. The original build cost was around $100M (excluding $15+M in other improvements). If the FCPS tried to build something similar (they wouldn’t have, it’s too nice), I suspect it would have cost us taxpayers closer to $200M.



We are zoned for Crossfield/Carson/Oakton. It's hard to see how we can still go to Oakton with the Western High school.

(1) Carson is one of the better performing middle schools, even without the AAP kids draws from Franklin. I am counting on that the new HS would have a similar high performing student body out of Carson and it helps to keep the performance up.

(2) I agree the facility is fantastic. We went there during KAA's annual summer picnic/festival (we came back from Costco via Mclaren and saw the jump house and decided to crash the party), went inside for bathroom and it is smooth and shiny like a concert hall.

(3) however, I am worried about where the teachers would come from. As a middle aged professional myself, if I am comfortable at my current work place, with commuting all figured out, why would I move to a new office? So would new HS have relatively young teachers that would turn over quite a bit? Are first few classes of student become guinea pigs of the new teachers?



A lot of teachers live in western Fairfax and Loudoun. Any time a new school opens in Loudoun schools in eastern Fairfax lose teachers. I'd expect the same thing to happen here.
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Anonymous wrote:This purchase is a coup for Fairfax County. This will be the nicest public school facility (of its size) in the County, perhaps in the entire State. The original build cost was around $100M (excluding $15+M in other improvements). If the FCPS tried to build something similar (they wouldn’t have, it’s too nice), I suspect it would have cost us taxpayers closer to $200M.


Arlington’s Wakefield was more expensive (adjusting for inflation), and likely has the nicest gym and pool of any public or private high school in the state. But yes, KAA sets the bar much higher for FCPS. I certainly hope future facilities will be constructed to the same level in terms of design and amenities. For a wealthy area taxpayers deserve better facilities. Just go to any other nice suburb outside of Philly, Chicago, Boston, Atlanta, etc. They are leagues ahead of what FCPS typically builds.
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Anonymous wrote:This purchase is a coup for Fairfax County. This will be the nicest public school facility (of its size) in the County, perhaps in the entire State. The original build cost was around $100M (excluding $15+M in other improvements). If the FCPS tried to build something similar (they wouldn’t have, it’s too nice), I suspect it would have cost us taxpayers closer to $200M.


Arlington’s Wakefield was more expensive (adjusting for inflation), and likely has the nicest gym and pool of any public or private high school in the state. But yes, KAA sets the bar much higher for FCPS. I certainly hope future facilities will be constructed to the same level in terms of design and amenities. For a wealthy area taxpayers deserve better facilities. Just go to any other nice suburb outside of Philly, Chicago, Boston, Atlanta, etc. They are leagues ahead of what FCPS typically builds.


And, it comes furnished!
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Anonymous wrote:I’m thrilled about this. We are in Fox Mill/Carson and the transition from Carson to SLHS where our neighborhood kids are a minority is awful. I am hoping very much that our neighborhood along with RCMS area will go to this new school.


It’s going to very interesting to see what they do if they make this a general HS. Fox Mill is a big neighborhood. They may not want to pull it out of SLHS. There is also the reducing transportation time vs. reducing split feeder issue. I don’t see how they solve both because the new HS won’t have room for everyone. Look at
who people think should attend this new school… Fox Mill, Emerald Chase, Franklin Farm, Chantilly Highlands, who else? There’s isn’t room for everyone so someone is either keeping their long commute to Oakton or staying at Westfield or South Lakes


Fox Mill used to go to Oakton and South Lakes was just fine without it.


Actually it wasn’t; hence, the large boundary change in 2008.

And then South Lakes got expanded after that outside the renovation queue.

Fox Mill isn’t that far from South Lakes and should stay there. If anything they should look to adjust the boundaries so it goes to Hughes as well.

The last thing anyone should be implying is that we need to build an addition to KAA before the sale has even closed.


Why? The Western HS was proposed to relieve SLHS, Oakton, Westfield, and Chantilly. Basically Caron is going to feed the new school instead of three or four way split.


South Lakes isn't overcrowded like Chantilly, no one travels as far to South Lakes as Crossfield travels to Oakton, and capacity at the new school may be limited. So, nice try (again), but I wouldn't assume that everyone currently zoned to Carson will feed to this school. Boundaries may change, and they may conclude they still need some split feeders, even if they can reduce the three-way split at Carson.


LOL, I'm not trying anything difficult. Read past CIPs to understand why the new high school was proposed. Check how close Carson MS is to the new HS.

Don't overcomplicate it.



It's complicated by the fact that Carson has a large capacity for a MS and the new school would appear to have a small capacity for a HS.

Also, reducing student commutes to Oakton may take priority over sending everyone now at Carson to the new HS.

Sorry if reality bites.


No worries, it won’t bite.

Carson MS will be a feeder school for the new HS, just like Herndon MS to Herndon HS, Hughes MS to South Lakes HS, Johnson MS to Fairfax HS, and Cooper MS to Langley HS.

If you lack common sense, just wait and see.


Or it could remain a split feeder like it has been, and like Franklin, Thoreau, Holmes, Poe, and Kilmer have been.

You're the one making assumptions that at this point are premature.


Nice spin.

You are the one making a claim that Fox Mill should stay in SLHS. I am just pointing out that’s very unlikely. Hopefully, you are not too dumb to understand this.

How close are the middle schools you listed to the nearest high school? Do you know the distance between Carson Middle School and the new high school?

It is 0.5 miles.



Given that South Lakes isn't overcrowded like Chantilly, and the distance from Fox Mill to South Lakes is much shorter than the distance from Crossfield to Oakton, it's quite likely. Sorry.


Here you go.

So the bottomline is you just don’t want Fox Mill to be assigned to the new school.

Wait and see.


It's not that I don't want Fox Mill to be assigned to the new school. It's that making sure Oak Hill goes there to address overcrowding at Chantilly and Crossfield goes there to shorten the long commute to Oakton should be higher priorities.

You, on the other hand, are trying to get assurances now that everyone currently at Carson will go there. That is simply premature.

Again, I'm sorry you dislike South Lakes so much.


Don't be ridiculous.

When did I say I dislike SLHS? I personally like the IB program at SLHS.

But, it makes far more sense for current Carson kids to attend the new school than your absurd idea.

Look at the map. Why should Oak Hill and Crossfield kids go to the new school while Fox Mill kids stay at SLHS? Do you really think that makes sense?

Stop being sorry and get some common sense.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m thrilled about this. We are in Fox Mill/Carson and the transition from Carson to SLHS where our neighborhood kids are a minority is awful. I am hoping very much that our neighborhood along with RCMS area will go to this new school.


It’s going to very interesting to see what they do if they make this a general HS. Fox Mill is a big neighborhood. They may not want to pull it out of SLHS. There is also the reducing transportation time vs. reducing split feeder issue. I don’t see how they solve both because the new HS won’t have room for everyone. Look at
who people think should attend this new school… Fox Mill, Emerald Chase, Franklin Farm, Chantilly Highlands, who else? There’s isn’t room for everyone so someone is either keeping their long commute to Oakton or staying at Westfield or South Lakes


Fox Mill used to go to Oakton and South Lakes was just fine without it.


Actually it wasn’t; hence, the large boundary change in 2008.

And then South Lakes got expanded after that outside the renovation queue.

Fox Mill isn’t that far from South Lakes and should stay there. If anything they should look to adjust the boundaries so it goes to Hughes as well.

The last thing anyone should be implying is that we need to build an addition to KAA before the sale has even closed.


Why? The Western HS was proposed to relieve SLHS, Oakton, Westfield, and Chantilly. Basically Caron is going to feed the new school instead of three or four way split.


South Lakes isn't overcrowded like Chantilly, no one travels as far to South Lakes as Crossfield travels to Oakton, and capacity at the new school may be limited. So, nice try (again), but I wouldn't assume that everyone currently zoned to Carson will feed to this school. Boundaries may change, and they may conclude they still need some split feeders, even if they can reduce the three-way split at Carson.


LOL, I'm not trying anything difficult. Read past CIPs to understand why the new high school was proposed. Check how close Carson MS is to the new HS.

Don't overcomplicate it.



It's complicated by the fact that Carson has a large capacity for a MS and the new school would appear to have a small capacity for a HS.

Also, reducing student commutes to Oakton may take priority over sending everyone now at Carson to the new HS.

Sorry if reality bites.


No worries, it won’t bite.

Carson MS will be a feeder school for the new HS, just like Herndon MS to Herndon HS, Hughes MS to South Lakes HS, Johnson MS to Fairfax HS, and Cooper MS to Langley HS.

If you lack common sense, just wait and see.


Or it could remain a split feeder like it has been, and like Franklin, Thoreau, Holmes, Poe, and Kilmer have been.

You're the one making assumptions that at this point are premature.


Nice spin.

You are the one making a claim that Fox Mill should stay in SLHS. I am just pointing out that’s very unlikely. Hopefully, you are not too dumb to understand this.

How close are the middle schools you listed to the nearest high school? Do you know the distance between Carson Middle School and the new high school?

It is 0.5 miles.



Given that South Lakes isn't overcrowded like Chantilly, and the distance from Fox Mill to South Lakes is much shorter than the distance from Crossfield to Oakton, it's quite likely. Sorry.


Here you go.

So the bottomline is you just don’t want Fox Mill to be assigned to the new school.

Wait and see.


It's not that I don't want Fox Mill to be assigned to the new school. It's that making sure Oak Hill goes there to address overcrowding at Chantilly and Crossfield goes there to shorten the long commute to Oakton should be higher priorities.

You, on the other hand, are trying to get assurances now that everyone currently at Carson will go there. That is simply premature.

Again, I'm sorry you dislike South Lakes so much.


Don't be ridiculous.

When did I say I dislike SLHS? I personally like the IB program at SLHS.

But, it makes far more sense for current Carson kids to attend the new school than your absurd idea.

Look at the map. Why should Oak Hill and Crossfield kids go to the new school while Fox Mill kids stay at SLHS? Do you really think that makes sense?

Stop being sorry and get some common sense.


It clearly makes sense to send Oak Hill and Crossfield kids there and if necessary keep Fox Mill kids at South Lakes since the priorities should be reducing overcrowding at Chantilly and reducing long commutes to Oakton.

It appears you didn't bother to listen to what the School Board members voting in favor of this purchase had to say. That's what they were focusing on, not changing the SLHS boundaries. It's sad we've invested so much in South Lakes over the years only for people to try and avoid it when it's nearby and not overcrowded.

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The Hunter Mill representative didn't vote in favor of FCPS acquiring the KAA. Good luck if you think she's going to have much luck getting Fox Mill, which is in Hunter Mill, assigned there.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m thrilled about this. We are in Fox Mill/Carson and the transition from Carson to SLHS where our neighborhood kids are a minority is awful. I am hoping very much that our neighborhood along with RCMS area will go to this new school.


It’s going to very interesting to see what they do if they make this a general HS. Fox Mill is a big neighborhood. They may not want to pull it out of SLHS. There is also the reducing transportation time vs. reducing split feeder issue. I don’t see how they solve both because the new HS won’t have room for everyone. Look at
who people think should attend this new school… Fox Mill, Emerald Chase, Franklin Farm, Chantilly Highlands, who else? There’s isn’t room for everyone so someone is either keeping their long commute to Oakton or staying at Westfield or South Lakes


Fox Mill used to go to Oakton and South Lakes was just fine without it.


Actually it wasn’t; hence, the large boundary change in 2008.

And then South Lakes got expanded after that outside the renovation queue.

Fox Mill isn’t that far from South Lakes and should stay there. If anything they should look to adjust the boundaries so it goes to Hughes as well.

The last thing anyone should be implying is that we need to build an addition to KAA before the sale has even closed.


Why? The Western HS was proposed to relieve SLHS, Oakton, Westfield, and Chantilly. Basically Caron is going to feed the new school instead of three or four way split.


South Lakes isn't overcrowded like Chantilly, no one travels as far to South Lakes as Crossfield travels to Oakton, and capacity at the new school may be limited. So, nice try (again), but I wouldn't assume that everyone currently zoned to Carson will feed to this school. Boundaries may change, and they may conclude they still need some split feeders, even if they can reduce the three-way split at Carson.


LOL, I'm not trying anything difficult. Read past CIPs to understand why the new high school was proposed. Check how close Carson MS is to the new HS.

Don't overcomplicate it.



It's complicated by the fact that Carson has a large capacity for a MS and the new school would appear to have a small capacity for a HS.

Also, reducing student commutes to Oakton may take priority over sending everyone now at Carson to the new HS.

Sorry if reality bites.


No worries, it won’t bite.

Carson MS will be a feeder school for the new HS, just like Herndon MS to Herndon HS, Hughes MS to South Lakes HS, Johnson MS to Fairfax HS, and Cooper MS to Langley HS.

If you lack common sense, just wait and see.


Or it could remain a split feeder like it has been, and like Franklin, Thoreau, Holmes, Poe, and Kilmer have been.

You're the one making assumptions that at this point are premature.


Nice spin.

You are the one making a claim that Fox Mill should stay in SLHS. I am just pointing out that’s very unlikely. Hopefully, you are not too dumb to understand this.

How close are the middle schools you listed to the nearest high school? Do you know the distance between Carson Middle School and the new high school?

It is 0.5 miles.



Given that South Lakes isn't overcrowded like Chantilly, and the distance from Fox Mill to South Lakes is much shorter than the distance from Crossfield to Oakton, it's quite likely. Sorry.


Here you go.

So the bottomline is you just don’t want Fox Mill to be assigned to the new school.

Wait and see.


It's not that I don't want Fox Mill to be assigned to the new school. It's that making sure Oak Hill goes there to address overcrowding at Chantilly and Crossfield goes there to shorten the long commute to Oakton should be higher priorities.

You, on the other hand, are trying to get assurances now that everyone currently at Carson will go there. That is simply premature.

Again, I'm sorry you dislike South Lakes so much.


Don't be ridiculous.

When did I say I dislike SLHS? I personally like the IB program at SLHS.

But, it makes far more sense for current Carson kids to attend the new school than your absurd idea.

Look at the map. Why should Oak Hill and Crossfield kids go to the new school while Fox Mill kids stay at SLHS? Do you really think that makes sense?

Stop being sorry and get some common sense.


It clearly makes sense to send Oak Hill and Crossfield kids there and if necessary keep Fox Mill kids at South Lakes since the priorities should be reducing overcrowding at Chantilly and reducing long commutes to Oakton.

It appears you didn't bother to listen to what the School Board members voting in favor of this purchase had to say. That's what they were focusing on, not changing the SLHS boundaries. It's sad we've invested so much in South Lakes over the years only for people to try and avoid it when it's nearby and not overcrowded.



Oak Hill doesn’t even go to Carson, and the school board is already working on reducing the overload at Chantilly.

Crossfield is closer to SLHS and farther from the new high school compared to Fox Mill. If anything, they should send Crossfield to SLHS instead of Fox Mill. Isn’t that obvious?

You lose all credibility by insisting Oak Hill and Crossfield kids go to the new school while Fox Mill kids stay at SLHS. I don’t see it happening.



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Anonymous wrote:I’m thrilled about this. We are in Fox Mill/Carson and the transition from Carson to SLHS where our neighborhood kids are a minority is awful. I am hoping very much that our neighborhood along with RCMS area will go to this new school.


It’s going to very interesting to see what they do if they make this a general HS. Fox Mill is a big neighborhood. They may not want to pull it out of SLHS. There is also the reducing transportation time vs. reducing split feeder issue. I don’t see how they solve both because the new HS won’t have room for everyone. Look at
who people think should attend this new school… Fox Mill, Emerald Chase, Franklin Farm, Chantilly Highlands, who else? There’s isn’t room for everyone so someone is either keeping their long commute to Oakton or staying at Westfield or South Lakes


Fox Mill used to go to Oakton and South Lakes was just fine without it.


Actually it wasn’t; hence, the large boundary change in 2008.

And then South Lakes got expanded after that outside the renovation queue.

Fox Mill isn’t that far from South Lakes and should stay there. If anything they should look to adjust the boundaries so it goes to Hughes as well.

The last thing anyone should be implying is that we need to build an addition to KAA before the sale has even closed.


Why? The Western HS was proposed to relieve SLHS, Oakton, Westfield, and Chantilly. Basically Caron is going to feed the new school instead of three or four way split.


South Lakes isn't overcrowded like Chantilly, no one travels as far to South Lakes as Crossfield travels to Oakton, and capacity at the new school may be limited. So, nice try (again), but I wouldn't assume that everyone currently zoned to Carson will feed to this school. Boundaries may change, and they may conclude they still need some split feeders, even if they can reduce the three-way split at Carson.


LOL, I'm not trying anything difficult. Read past CIPs to understand why the new high school was proposed. Check how close Carson MS is to the new HS.

Don't overcomplicate it.



It's complicated by the fact that Carson has a large capacity for a MS and the new school would appear to have a small capacity for a HS.

Also, reducing student commutes to Oakton may take priority over sending everyone now at Carson to the new HS.

Sorry if reality bites.


No worries, it won’t bite.

Carson MS will be a feeder school for the new HS, just like Herndon MS to Herndon HS, Hughes MS to South Lakes HS, Johnson MS to Fairfax HS, and Cooper MS to Langley HS.

If you lack common sense, just wait and see.


Or it could remain a split feeder like it has been, and like Franklin, Thoreau, Holmes, Poe, and Kilmer have been.

You're the one making assumptions that at this point are premature.


Nice spin.

You are the one making a claim that Fox Mill should stay in SLHS. I am just pointing out that’s very unlikely. Hopefully, you are not too dumb to understand this.

How close are the middle schools you listed to the nearest high school? Do you know the distance between Carson Middle School and the new high school?

It is 0.5 miles.



Given that South Lakes isn't overcrowded like Chantilly, and the distance from Fox Mill to South Lakes is much shorter than the distance from Crossfield to Oakton, it's quite likely. Sorry.


Here you go.

So the bottomline is you just don’t want Fox Mill to be assigned to the new school.

Wait and see.


It's not that I don't want Fox Mill to be assigned to the new school. It's that making sure Oak Hill goes there to address overcrowding at Chantilly and Crossfield goes there to shorten the long commute to Oakton should be higher priorities.

You, on the other hand, are trying to get assurances now that everyone currently at Carson will go there. That is simply premature.

Again, I'm sorry you dislike South Lakes so much.


Don't be ridiculous.

When did I say I dislike SLHS? I personally like the IB program at SLHS.

But, it makes far more sense for current Carson kids to attend the new school than your absurd idea.

Look at the map. Why should Oak Hill and Crossfield kids go to the new school while Fox Mill kids stay at SLHS? Do you really think that makes sense?

Stop being sorry and get some common sense.


It clearly makes sense to send Oak Hill and Crossfield kids there and if necessary keep Fox Mill kids at South Lakes since the priorities should be reducing overcrowding at Chantilly and reducing long commutes to Oakton.

It appears you didn't bother to listen to what the School Board members voting in favor of this purchase had to say. That's what they were focusing on, not changing the SLHS boundaries. It's sad we've invested so much in South Lakes over the years only for people to try and avoid it when it's nearby and not overcrowded.



Oak Hill doesn’t even go to Carson, and the school board is already working on reducing the overload at Chantilly.

Crossfield is closer to SLHS and farther from the new high school compared to Fox Mill. If anything, they should send Crossfield to SLHS instead of Fox Mill. Isn’t that obvious?

You lose all credibility by insisting Oak Hill and Crossfield kids go to the new school while Fox Mill kids stay at SLHS. I don’t see it happening.



And now they have a much better way to reduce overcrowding at Chantilly and avoid a long commute to Oakton, whereas you want multiple school assignments changed so you can avoid South Lakes. Also, Crossfield families at Oakton want a shorter commute, but they don't want IB.

Since their approach has been to propose changes that affect fewer rather than more students, I think it's more likely they'll move Oak Hill and Crossfield to the new school and leave Fox Mill at South Lakes.
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I think you need to look at this in conjunction with the Thru proposals.

They are proposing to move the Navy island to Oak Hill and then to move part of Oak Hill to Fox Mill. Especially with these changes, you'd have Crossfield kids going through Fox Mill on their way to the new school.

So PP is right. Fox Mill probably goes to the new school and they move Crossfield to South Lakes.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m thrilled about this. We are in Fox Mill/Carson and the transition from Carson to SLHS where our neighborhood kids are a minority is awful. I am hoping very much that our neighborhood along with RCMS area will go to this new school.


It’s going to very interesting to see what they do if they make this a general HS. Fox Mill is a big neighborhood. They may not want to pull it out of SLHS. There is also the reducing transportation time vs. reducing split feeder issue. I don’t see how they solve both because the new HS won’t have room for everyone. Look at
who people think should attend this new school… Fox Mill, Emerald Chase, Franklin Farm, Chantilly Highlands, who else? There’s isn’t room for everyone so someone is either keeping their long commute to Oakton or staying at Westfield or South Lakes


Fox Mill used to go to Oakton and South Lakes was just fine without it.


Actually it wasn’t; hence, the large boundary change in 2008.

And then South Lakes got expanded after that outside the renovation queue.

Fox Mill isn’t that far from South Lakes and should stay there. If anything they should look to adjust the boundaries so it goes to Hughes as well.

The last thing anyone should be implying is that we need to build an addition to KAA before the sale has even closed.


Why? The Western HS was proposed to relieve SLHS, Oakton, Westfield, and Chantilly. Basically Caron is going to feed the new school instead of three or four way split.


South Lakes isn't overcrowded like Chantilly, no one travels as far to South Lakes as Crossfield travels to Oakton, and capacity at the new school may be limited. So, nice try (again), but I wouldn't assume that everyone currently zoned to Carson will feed to this school. Boundaries may change, and they may conclude they still need some split feeders, even if they can reduce the three-way split at Carson.


LOL, I'm not trying anything difficult. Read past CIPs to understand why the new high school was proposed. Check how close Carson MS is to the new HS.

Don't overcomplicate it.



It's complicated by the fact that Carson has a large capacity for a MS and the new school would appear to have a small capacity for a HS.

Also, reducing student commutes to Oakton may take priority over sending everyone now at Carson to the new HS.

Sorry if reality bites.


No worries, it won’t bite.

Carson MS will be a feeder school for the new HS, just like Herndon MS to Herndon HS, Hughes MS to South Lakes HS, Johnson MS to Fairfax HS, and Cooper MS to Langley HS.

If you lack common sense, just wait and see.


Or it could remain a split feeder like it has been, and like Franklin, Thoreau, Holmes, Poe, and Kilmer have been.

You're the one making assumptions that at this point are premature.


Nice spin.

You are the one making a claim that Fox Mill should stay in SLHS. I am just pointing out that’s very unlikely. Hopefully, you are not too dumb to understand this.

How close are the middle schools you listed to the nearest high school? Do you know the distance between Carson Middle School and the new high school?

It is 0.5 miles.



Given that South Lakes isn't overcrowded like Chantilly, and the distance from Fox Mill to South Lakes is much shorter than the distance from Crossfield to Oakton, it's quite likely. Sorry.


Here you go.

So the bottomline is you just don’t want Fox Mill to be assigned to the new school.

Wait and see.


It's not that I don't want Fox Mill to be assigned to the new school. It's that making sure Oak Hill goes there to address overcrowding at Chantilly and Crossfield goes there to shorten the long commute to Oakton should be higher priorities.

You, on the other hand, are trying to get assurances now that everyone currently at Carson will go there. That is simply premature.

Again, I'm sorry you dislike South Lakes so much.


Don't be ridiculous.

When did I say I dislike SLHS? I personally like the IB program at SLHS.

But, it makes far more sense for current Carson kids to attend the new school than your absurd idea.

Look at the map. Why should Oak Hill and Crossfield kids go to the new school while Fox Mill kids stay at SLHS? Do you really think that makes sense?

Stop being sorry and get some common sense.


It clearly makes sense to send Oak Hill and Crossfield kids there and if necessary keep Fox Mill kids at South Lakes since the priorities should be reducing overcrowding at Chantilly and reducing long commutes to Oakton.

It appears you didn't bother to listen to what the School Board members voting in favor of this purchase had to say. That's what they were focusing on, not changing the SLHS boundaries. It's sad we've invested so much in South Lakes over the years only for people to try and avoid it when it's nearby and not overcrowded.



Oak Hill doesn’t even go to Carson, and the school board is already working on reducing the overload at Chantilly.

Crossfield is closer to SLHS and farther from the new high school compared to Fox Mill. If anything, they should send Crossfield to SLHS instead of Fox Mill. Isn’t that obvious?

You lose all credibility by insisting Oak Hill and Crossfield kids go to the new school while Fox Mill kids stay at SLHS. I don’t see it happening.





You sound like you don’t live here or don’t understand that Crossfield is much further away from Oakton than Fox Mill is from South Lakes. Why would they disrupt two entire communities to make this change instead of one, dummy?
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Anonymous wrote:I think you need to look at this in conjunction with the Thru proposals.

They are proposing to move the Navy island to Oak Hill and then to move part of Oak Hill to Fox Mill. Especially with these changes, you'd have Crossfield kids going through Fox Mill on their way to the new school.

So PP is right. Fox Mill probably goes to the new school and they move Crossfield to South Lakes.


Crossfield people zoned for Oakton will lose their sh*t if this happens. Will be interesting…
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