Woman charged with felony for having a stillbirth

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Please consider donating to her gofundme, for legal fees and - to repair the bathroom that the authorities destroyed.


https://www.gofundme.com/f/justice-for-brittany-watts

I find it amazing that people are willing to donate to the gofundme when we don’t have all the facts in the case. This could go 10,000 different ways.

10,000 different ways? Seriously? A woman miscarried a 20 month old fetus into a toilet. Sounds pretty simple to me.

Bet you thought the same thing about Citibike Karen. And the Covington kid. Couldn’t POSSIBLY be any other relevant details that may make a difference.
Can you really not think of even one fact that would change things? Not one?

Like what? You seem to have something in mind. DP.

I really don’t. But just spitballing here - what if she went to the hospital and they said “you need to stay here and let us deliver the baby” and she left AMA? Because she didn’t want to stay? What if they told her that flushing a fetus was illegal and she said “I don’t care I gotta get to work”?

I’m just saying that there’s ALWAYS more to the story (Citibike Karen, Covington), yet people still assume the little info they have is the whole and true story.

People are still saying she was denied medical care at the hospital, yet I don’t believe that’s been verified.

Is it a simple cut and dry story? It very well may be. But just the fact that people refuse to accept that there may be a story that doesn’t fit in with their agenda is scary. It just keeps happening.

Nah. Nobody disputes the key fact here: the fetus was unviable and died in utero. It is literally irrelevant what the hospital told her about where/how to deliver. It should not be a crime of any sort to have a miscarriage or stillbirth and not react in exactly the way the state says to act. Even assuming the very worst facts like she hated the fetus and wanted to disrespect the dead fetus - well all she did was try to flush it (also undisputed). she didn’t do anything worse than that.

So - even taking these facts in the very worst possible light, she still should not be facing any criminal charges.

Sorry if someone told me point blank “it’s illegal to do XYZ” and I did it anyway (because I didn’t like the law) then that absolutely matters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Please consider donating to her gofundme, for legal fees and - to repair the bathroom that the authorities destroyed.


https://www.gofundme.com/f/justice-for-brittany-watts

I find it amazing that people are willing to donate to the gofundme when we don’t have all the facts in the case. This could go 10,000 different ways.

10,000 different ways? Seriously? A woman miscarried a 20 month old fetus into a toilet. Sounds pretty simple to me.

Bet you thought the same thing about Citibike Karen. And the Covington kid. Couldn’t POSSIBLY be any other relevant details that may make a difference.
Can you really not think of even one fact that would change things? Not one?

Like what? You seem to have something in mind. DP.

I really don’t. But just spitballing here - what if she went to the hospital and they said “you need to stay here and let us deliver the baby” and she left AMA? Because she didn’t want to stay? What if they told her that flushing a fetus was illegal and she said “I don’t care I gotta get to work”?

I’m just saying that there’s ALWAYS more to the story (Citibike Karen, Covington), yet people still assume the little info they have is the whole and true story.

People are still saying she was denied medical care at the hospital, yet I don’t believe that’s been verified.

Is it a simple cut and dry story? It very well may be. But just the fact that people refuse to accept that there may be a story that doesn’t fit in with their agenda is scary. It just keeps happening.

Nah. Nobody disputes the key fact here: the fetus was unviable and died in utero. It is literally irrelevant what the hospital told her about where/how to deliver. It should not be a crime of any sort to have a miscarriage or stillbirth and not react in exactly the way the state says to act. Even assuming the very worst facts like she hated the fetus and wanted to disrespect the dead fetus - well all she did was try to flush it (also undisputed). she didn’t do anything worse than that.

So - even taking these facts in the very worst possible light, she still should not be facing any criminal charges.

Sorry if someone told me point blank “it’s illegal to do XYZ” and I did it anyway (because I didn’t like the law) then that absolutely matters.

It’s not illegal to deliver a stillbirth at home. There’s no law in Ohio about that and no law about not flushing. If there WAS such a law it would be unjust and getting into real Handmaids Tale territory.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please consider donating to her gofundme, for legal fees and - to repair the bathroom that the authorities destroyed.


https://www.gofundme.com/f/justice-for-brittany-watts

I find it amazing that people are willing to donate to the gofundme when we don’t have all the facts in the case. This could go 10,000 different ways.

10,000 different ways? Seriously? A woman miscarried a 20 month old fetus into a toilet. Sounds pretty simple to me.

Bet you thought the same thing about Citibike Karen. And the Covington kid. Couldn’t POSSIBLY be any other relevant details that may make a difference.
Can you really not think of even one fact that would change things? Not one?

Like what? You seem to have something in mind. DP.

I really don’t. But just spitballing here - what if she went to the hospital and they said “you need to stay here and let us deliver the baby” and she left AMA? Because she didn’t want to stay? What if they told her that flushing a fetus was illegal and she said “I don’t care I gotta get to work”?

I’m just saying that there’s ALWAYS more to the story (Citibike Karen, Covington), yet people still assume the little info they have is the whole and true story.

People are still saying she was denied medical care at the hospital, yet I don’t believe that’s been verified.

Is it a simple cut and dry story? It very well may be. But just the fact that people refuse to accept that there may be a story that doesn’t fit in with their agenda is scary. It just keeps happening.

Why would they say that when it’s not true? Plus, they are concerned with her medical care, they aren’t offering legal advice.

Just looking at the very basic facts here - she miscarried at home - she didn’t do any wrong here.

[Anonymous]

According to the go fund me, which her attorney referred me to, " even though there is no Ohio law dictating the "proper" disposal method of the remains of a miscarriage"

Also, they've raised over $30k for her, thank god.

[Anonymous]

https://www.gofundme.com/f/justice-for-brittany-watts

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:According to the go fund me, which her attorney referred me to, " even though there is no Ohio law dictating the "proper" disposal method of the remains of a miscarriage"

Also, they've raised over $30k for her, thank god.

the gofundme also confirms that she hemorrhaged and had to be admitted to the hospital. the prosecutor’s claim that she just “went about her day” is an absolute disgusting lie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.gofundme.com/f/justice-for-brittany-watts

$52k. Suck it prosecutors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Please consider donating to her gofundme, for legal fees and - to repair the bathroom that the authorities destroyed.


https://www.gofundme.com/f/justice-for-brittany-watts

Now she's at $65k. Watch Republicans make it illegal to have a fundraiser for dead fetuses. Oh "but that will never happen".

[Anonymous]

Now she's at 100k.

[Anonymous]

This article has the most details yet. What they’re doing to this woman is appalling.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/12/15/ohio-woman-miscarriage-abuse-of-corpse-grand-jury/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This article has the most details yet. What they’re doing to this woman is appalling.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/12/15/ohio-woman-miscarriage-abuse-of-corpse-grand-jury/

My God. It is indeed appalling. Everyone should read this article, all of it.

The fact that the prosecution says she "placed" the fetus in the toilet is jaw-dropping. It fell out and she seems not to have realized that fully. She miscarried and it sounds from the details as if she was under extreme mental and emotional stress at the point of miscarriage, after repeated hospital visits and repeatedly pinging back and forth between the hospital and her home. The only one who comes off well here, among the medical professionals, is the one doctor who clearly saw that SHE might die, and was ready to induce labor (effectively, an abortion), but she left the hospital before he was able to tell her that. Her mental state must have been awful.

The nurse who painted her as having placed an infant "in a bucket" and contacted the cops needs serious retraining, stat, or should not be dealing with pregnant women. A 15-ounce fetus is not a baby and a woman who has been miscarrying for days on end is not a criminal, and is probably not even thinking logically by that point.

Read the article. It's chilling. The idea she might spend a year in jail because she miscarried is a horror. And though the state is claiming the issue is what she did with the products of the miscarriage, and she's not being prosecuted for miscarrying--that's disingenuous of the state.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This article has the most details yet. What they’re doing to this woman is appalling.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/12/15/ohio-woman-miscarriage-abuse-of-corpse-grand-jury/

My God. It is indeed appalling. Everyone should read this article, all of it.

The fact that the prosecution says she "placed" the fetus in the toilet is jaw-dropping. It fell out and she seems not to have realized that fully. She miscarried and it sounds from the details as if she was under extreme mental and emotional stress at the point of miscarriage, after repeated hospital visits and repeatedly pinging back and forth between the hospital and her home. The only one who comes off well here, among the medical professionals, is the one doctor who clearly saw that SHE might die, and was ready to induce labor (effectively, an abortion), but she left the hospital before he was able to tell her that. Her mental state must have been awful.

The nurse who painted her as having placed an infant "in a bucket" and contacted the cops needs serious retraining, stat, or should not be dealing with pregnant women. A 15-ounce fetus is not a baby and a woman who has been miscarrying for days on end is not a criminal, and is probably not even thinking logically by that point.

Read the article. It's chilling. The idea she might spend a year in jail because she miscarried is a horror. And though the state is claiming the issue is what she did with the products of the miscarriage, and she's not being prosecuted for miscarrying--that's disingenuous of the state.

I’m sure the fact that it was a Catholic hospital and that she was on the cusp of the 22 week line of abortion being illegal weighed into the SEVEN HOUR ethical debate the doctors had on whether to induce her or not, but my god, I can’t even imagine how helpless and anxious she must have felt sitting there, in pain, for all of that time before finally deciding to leave because no one seemed to be treating it like an urgent priority.

[Anonymous]

The facts are almost exactly what I thought. They don’t clarify if the hospital was actually going to induce her though. Poor woman - this is 100% the result of Ohio’s horrific abortion laws. She should have been compassionately given medical care in the form of a therepeutic abortion the moment the hospital determined the pregnancy was not viable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The facts are almost exactly what I thought. They don’t clarify if the hospital was actually going to induce her though. Poor woman - this is 100% the result of Ohio’s horrific abortion laws. She should have been compassionately given medical care in the form of a therepeutic abortion the moment the hospital determined the pregnancy was not viable.

Exactly. A non-viable pregnancy threatens the mother’s health. This is what happens when you have male politicians making healthcare decisions about female bodies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This article has the most details yet. What they’re doing to this woman is appalling.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/12/15/ohio-woman-miscarriage-abuse-of-corpse-grand-jury/

This is a depressing comment about reproductive rights in America:

Roe was the law of the land from 1973 to 2022. That's 49 years.

If you assume the average age of menarche is 12 and the average age of menopause is 51, there's a narrow 10-year span of women who have been protected by Roe their entire reproductive life.

Women had to have been born from 1961 to 1971 to have had reproductive freedom during their entire reproductive lifespan. Ponder how wrong that is.