Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:You would think they would have training in catastrophic injuries

Why even bother having bodyguards?

They were there to keep people from throwing things at him, coming on stage, punching or slapping him, physically blocking him from leaving. They were there for minor disputes, not Secret Service-level protection. It seems neither he nor TPUSA paid for that kind of security detail.

Whose idea was is to throw a gravely injured Charlie and any potential evidence into the backseat of an SUV? Who made that decision?

Those kinds of details are not being announced publicly.

They just assumed Charlie was a goner? The unqualified bodyguards determined Charlie was brain dead and there was no need for any medical intervention?

They took him straight to a hospital, so obviously, they were seeking medical intervention.

I am talking immediate on site, qualified EMT intervention. Throwing him into the back of an SUV could have been what actually killed him if he had a c spine fracture.

I saw a message from his mentor who was there and with him in the SUV, I think it was on Tik Tok. But he said they briefly got a pulse from Charlie at the hospital, which I find hard to believe.

People lose 5L of blood and survive, obviously they need immediate transfusions, but it happens. He’d likely be a vented quadriplegic with a severe TBI if he survived. But everyone decided there was no hope and didn’t even try to save him.

A normal heart pumps about 5L of blood per minute. With his injury where it was, he had zero chance of survival.

Ok understood. You still never ever ever put a deceased body into the back of a car, particularly after a murder, when EMS should be readily available as there was a hospital about 4 miles away. You never do this. Trained bodyguards would be aware of this.

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So I think I figured out what’s going on with the text messages.

We know that the shooter is not cooperating with authorities, has a lawyer, and allegedly destroyed his phone, clothing, and other evidence. So the police are getting information only from the boyfriend.

My theory is that the boyfriend received messages from the shooter and, in a moment of panic, either erases the messages or wiped his own phone. If the messages were end-to-end encrypted, they should be impossible to recover. If the messages were sent over an app rather than SMS texting, then the mobile service provider would not have anything to provide to authorities.

So the boyfriend relays the content of the text conversation with the shooter to the police. And now Utah police have put together a stylized transcript based on the testimony of the boyfriend. And this is what gets released to the public as part of the charging documents, because they are in a rush to release information. Recovering encrypted data from a mobile phone could take days or even weeks.

The police compile the stylized transcript, they let the boyfriend review it, and he says “Sure, that’s close enough” since he can’t remember every verbatim word or detail.

This would dovetail with Patel’s weird remark that they know of the shooter writing some sort of manifesto, but do not have access to it. If it’s encrypted and was deleted, it’s done-zo.

So yes, the text message chain was crafted by law enforcement but on the basis of testimony by the boyfriend about a real conversation that happened.

Seems like it would be pretty easy to get that thrown out of the case if that were true. This FBI and DOJ are so incompetent that this kid will probably end up in an elected position by the time the trial is over.

Doesn’t even matter. The boyfriend already told FBI Tyler told him he did it. And that he planned to do it. His images are captured on site. His DNA is on items from the crime scene. They don’t even need the actual text messages.

[Anonymous]

There was a huge breach of protocol and negligence here with his team of bodyguards.

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The whole groyper world it’s just a crazy crazy subculture that I can’t even believe exists.

Y’all got a white male incel problem

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Anonymous wrote:When a conservative hero is murdered in front of thousands of people, and

- not one store is looted,

- not a single vehicle burned,

It tells you everything you need to know.

You all are burning down the constitution.

And looting the Treasury.

BS. Your side literally murders people for disagreeing.

Your side shot Democratic lawmakers and their families in their homes and firebombed the Pennsylvania governor’s residence while they slept. Get off your high horse.

What democratic lawmakers?

Melissa Hortman and John Hoffman.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just so everyone understands what is happening at the macro level

https://apnews.com/article/charlie-kirk-russia-china-disinformation-putin-trump-bce0174644351c70811ae4a847ffa767

Foreign disinformation about Charlie Kirk’s killing seeks to widen US divisions

The hostile foreign governments want Americans angry and divided, and the current US government wants Americans angry and divided. And the current US government has dismantled the task forces in military, the state department and national intelligence, that would normally track these things.

And this is true of every topic. And half the idiots on this thread are probably programmed cell phones

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:When a conservative hero is murdered in front of thousands of people, and

- not one store is looted,

- not a single vehicle burned,

It tells you everything you need to know.

You all are burning down the constitution.

And looting the Treasury.

BS. Your side literally murders people for disagreeing.

Your side shot Democratic lawmakers and their families in their homes and firebombed the Pennsylvania governor’s residence while they slept. Get off your high horse.

I believe the penn gov home being firebombed was left wing.

Cody Balmer had anti-Biden posts on his Facebook.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole groyper world it’s just a crazy crazy subculture that I can’t even believe exists.

Y’all got a white male incel problem

Really, y’all? If you live here you’re one of us.

[Anonymous]

The bodyguards need to be looked into.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When a conservative hero is murdered in front of thousands of people, and

- not one store is looted,

- not a single vehicle burned,

It tells you everything you need to know.

You all are burning down the constitution.

And looting the Treasury.

BS. Your side literally murders people for disagreeing.

Your side shot Democratic lawmakers and their families in their homes and firebombed the Pennsylvania governor’s residence while they slept. Get off your high horse.

What democratic lawmakers?

Melissa Hortman and John Hoffman.

And there is not a peep on this board about the Pennsylvania police who were murdered by a MAGA because...MAGA. "back the blue" my a$$

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So I think I figured out what’s going on with the text messages.

We know that the shooter is not cooperating with authorities, has a lawyer, and allegedly destroyed his phone, clothing, and other evidence. So the police are getting information only from the boyfriend.

My theory is that the boyfriend received messages from the shooter and, in a moment of panic, either erases the messages or wiped his own phone. If the messages were end-to-end encrypted, they should be impossible to recover. If the messages were sent over an app rather than SMS texting, then the mobile service provider would not have anything to provide to authorities.

So the boyfriend relays the content of the text conversation with the shooter to the police. And now Utah police have put together a stylized transcript based on the testimony of the boyfriend. And this is what gets released to the public as part of the charging documents, because they are in a rush to release information. Recovering encrypted data from a mobile phone could take days or even weeks.

The police compile the stylized transcript, they let the boyfriend review it, and he says “Sure, that’s close enough” since he can’t remember every verbatim word or detail.

This would dovetail with Patel’s weird remark that they know of the shooter writing some sort of manifesto, but do not have access to it. If it’s encrypted and was deleted, it’s done-zo.

So yes, the text message chain was crafted by law enforcement but on the basis of testimony by the boyfriend about a real conversation that happened.

Seems like it would be pretty easy to get that thrown out of the case if that were true. This FBI and DOJ are so incompetent that this kid will probably end up in an elected position by the time the trial is over.

Doesn’t even matter. The boyfriend already told FBI Tyler told him he did it. And that he planned to do it. His images are captured on site. His DNA is on items from the crime scene. They don’t even need the actual text messages.

Can you please provide receipts for this claim.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The bodyguards need to be looked into.

This tragic event demonstrated the difference between bodyguards and dignitary/executive protection.

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Anonymous wrote:[twitter]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When a conservative hero is murdered in front of thousands of people, and

- not one store is looted,

- not a single vehicle burned,

It tells you everything you need to know.

You all are burning down the constitution.

And looting the Treasury.

BS. Your side literally murders people for disagreeing.

Your side shot Democratic lawmakers and their families in their homes and firebombed the Pennsylvania governor’s residence while they slept. Get off your high horse.

What democratic lawmakers?

Melissa Hortman and John Hoffman.

And there is not a peep on this board about the Pennsylvania police who were murdered by a MAGA because...MAGA. "back the blue" my a$$

How do you know he’s MAGA?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The bodyguards need to be looked into.

Because you think it’s possible they were co-conspirators with the shooter or because you think they just weren’t well trained and competent?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You would think they would have training in catastrophic injuries

Why even bother having bodyguards?

They were there to keep people from throwing things at him, coming on stage, punching or slapping him, physically blocking him from leaving. They were there for minor disputes, not Secret Service-level protection. It seems neither he nor TPUSA paid for that kind of security detail.

Whose idea was is to throw a gravely injured Charlie and any potential evidence into the backseat of an SUV? Who made that decision?

Those kinds of details are not being announced publicly.

They just assumed Charlie was a goner? The unqualified bodyguards determined Charlie was brain dead and there was no need for any medical intervention?

They took him straight to a hospital, so obviously, they were seeking medical intervention.

I am talking immediate on site, qualified EMT intervention. Throwing him into the back of an SUV could have been what actually killed him if he had a c spine fracture.

I saw a message from his mentor who was there and with him in the SUV, I think it was on Tik Tok. But he said they briefly got a pulse from Charlie at the hospital, which I find hard to believe.

People lose 5L of blood and survive, obviously they need immediate transfusions, but it happens. He’d likely be a vented quadriplegic with a severe TBI if he survived. But everyone decided there was no hope and didn’t even try to save him.

A normal heart pumps about 5L of blood per minute. With his injury where it was, he had zero chance of survival.

Ok understood. You still never ever ever put a deceased body into the back of a car, particularly after a murder, when EMS should be readily available as there was a hospital about 4 miles away. You never do this. Trained bodyguards would be aware of this.

YOU ARE FULL OF EXCREMENT AND SHOULD STOP POSTING THIS CRAP YOU HAVE BEEN POSTING FOR MULTIPLE DAYS IN DOZENS OF POSTS.