Official Abortion Thread

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Perfect - another person who would be fine with MUV since men shouldn’t be having sex unless they are married and ready to procreate

There's a reason that women were traditionally encouraged to get married first, so that they and children would be protected.

Again, what about the men? MUV would encourage them to get married first. Post Roe, states could even make marriage a condition of a successful application to reverse MUV and attempt procreation.

PP here. I agree about men's responsibility in not impregnating multiple women and then abandoning their responsibilities. Unfortunately, in more than a few families and communities, that concept doesn't seem to gain traction.

RACSIST!!!!!!

PP here. There's nothing racist about that comment. If the statement were false, we wouldn't be having the discussion on this thread about men not supporting their children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perfect - another person who would be fine with MUV since men shouldn’t be having sex unless they are married and ready to procreate

There's a reason that women were traditionally encouraged to get married first, so that they and children would be protected.

Again, what about the men? MUV would encourage them to get married first. Post Roe, states could even make marriage a condition of a successful application to reverse MUV and attempt procreation.

PP here. I agree about men's responsibility in not impregnating multiple women and then abandoning their responsibilities. Unfortunately, in more than a few families and communities, that concept doesn't seem to gain traction.

RACSIST!!!!!!

DP. If you can’t spell a word then don’t use it or better yet go away and let the adults chat. When 65% of children are raised in a single parent household despite the countless studies that detail the beneficial outcomes of a two parent home, then yes.....the African American community has an enduring and pernicious cultural and/or behavioral problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perfect - another person who would be fine with MUV since men shouldn’t be having sex unless they are married and ready to procreate

There's a reason that women were traditionally encouraged to get married first, so that they and children would be protected.

Again, what about the men? MUV would encourage them to get married first. Post Roe, states could even make marriage a condition of a successful application to reverse MUV and attempt procreation.

PP here. I agree about men's responsibility in not impregnating multiple women and then abandoning their responsibilities. Unfortunately, in more than a few families and communities, that concept doesn't seem to gain traction.

RACSIST!!!!!!

DP. If you can’t spell a word then don’t use it or better yet go away and let the adults chat. When 65% of children are raised in a single parent household despite the countless studies that detail the beneficial outcomes of a two parent home, then yes.....the African American community has an enduring and pernicious cultural and/or behavioral problem.

Countless generations of slavery and systematic racism wouldn’t have anything to do with that, huh?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perfect - another person who would be fine with MUV since men shouldn’t be having sex unless they are married and ready to procreate

There's a reason that women were traditionally encouraged to get married first, so that they and children would be protected.

Again, what about the men? MUV would encourage them to get married first. Post Roe, states could even make marriage a condition of a successful application to reverse MUV and attempt procreation.

PP here. I agree about men's responsibility in not impregnating multiple women and then abandoning their responsibilities. Unfortunately, in more than a few families and communities, that concept doesn't seem to gain traction.

RACSIST!!!!!!

DP. If you can’t spell a word then don’t use it or better yet go away and let the adults chat. When 65% of children are raised in a single parent household despite the countless studies that detail the beneficial outcomes of a two parent home, then yes.....the African American community has an enduring and pernicious cultural and/or behavioral problem.

Countless generations of slavery and systematic racism wouldn’t have anything to do with that, huh?

Sexual promiscuity without responsible behavior in terms of supporting a child cannot be relegated to slavery and racism. There are plenty of white men behaving irresponsibly, just as there are many AA men who are loving, responsible dads who support their kids.

[Anonymous]

so if you believe that fetal rights begin at heartbeat then what is your stance on abortion if it threatens the life of the mother? Does the rights of the fetus supersede the right of the mother's life?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:so if you believe that fetal rights begin at heartbeat then what is your stance on abortion if it threatens the life of the mother? Does the rights of the fetus supersede the right of the mother's life?

Of course it does. Women are vessels for men’s seed. After they have a few children, they are disposable.

-GOP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perfect - another person who would be fine with MUV since men shouldn’t be having sex unless they are married and ready to procreate

There's a reason that women were traditionally encouraged to get married first, so that they and children would be protected.

Again, what about the men? MUV would encourage them to get married first. Post Roe, states could even make marriage a condition of a successful application to reverse MUV and attempt procreation.

PP here. I agree about men's responsibility in not impregnating multiple women and then abandoning their responsibilities. Unfortunately, in more than a few families and communities, that concept doesn't seem to gain traction.

RACSIST!!!!!!

DP. If you can’t spell a word then don’t use it or better yet go away and let the adults chat. When 65% of children are raised in a single parent household despite the countless studies that detail the beneficial outcomes of a two parent home, then yes.....the African American community has an enduring and pernicious cultural and/or behavioral problem.

Are we talking about the Trump extended family here, 5 kids by 3 mothers (that we know of)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:so if you believe that fetal rights begin at heartbeat then what is your stance on abortion if it threatens the life of the mother? Does the rights of the fetus supersede the right of the mother's life?

Good question. The logic of the extreme anti-abortion faction (that the fetus is a legal person from conception) would suggest that the life & health of the mother isn't enough of a reason to kill the other person. There is such thing as self-defense, but only in cases where the other party is a violent aggressor.

[Anonymous]

The Ohio state legislator who thinks that ectopic pregnancies can be re-implanted in the uterus is doubling down on his idiocy.
https://amp.cincinnati.com/amp/3671253002?__twitter_impression=true

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: The Ohio state legislator who thinks that ectopic pregnancies can be re-implanted in the uterus is doubling down on his idiocy.
https://amp.cincinnati.com/amp/3671253002?__twitter_impression=true

This is just so horrible. Not only is it fake science, but it's also designed to guilt women who have ectopic pregnancies into thinking there's something they could do to save the pregnancy. Just all around shameful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so if you believe that fetal rights begin at heartbeat then what is your stance on abortion if it threatens the life of the mother? Does the rights of the fetus supersede the right of the mother's life?

Good question. The logic of the extreme anti-abortion faction (that the fetus is a legal person from conception) would suggest that the life & health of the mother isn't enough of a reason to kill the other person. There is such thing as self-defense, but only in cases where the other party is a violent aggressor.

I’m adamantly pro choice, but I’ve never understood maternal health or rape/incest exceptions from the anti choice side. If abortion is murder, then it’s still murder in those cases too. I’m glad they exist because while I think any woman should have the right to end a pregnancy, I think women who are rape/incest survivors and mothers whose pregnancies put them at risk are some of the most vulnerable people and should definitely have access to abortions. It just seems like a hypocritical stance. However, I feel like calling people out on it might paint them into a corner and make them push to stop having those exceptions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perfect - another person who would be fine with MUV since men shouldn’t be having sex unless they are married and ready to procreate

There's a reason that women were traditionally encouraged to get married first, so that they and children would be protected.

Again, what about the men? MUV would encourage them to get married first. Post Roe, states could even make marriage a condition of a successful application to reverse MUV and attempt procreation.

PP here. I agree about men's responsibility in not impregnating multiple women and then abandoning their responsibilities. Unfortunately, in more than a few families and communities, that concept doesn't seem to gain traction.

RACSIST!!!!!!

DP. If you can’t spell a word then don’t use it or better yet go away and let the adults chat. When 65% of children are raised in a single parent household despite the countless studies that detail the beneficial outcomes of a two parent home, then yes.....the African American community has an enduring and pernicious cultural and/or behavioral problem.

Countless generations of slavery and systematic racism wouldn’t have anything to do with that, huh?

Actually no. The biggest benefit of slavery ending was that married African Americans could be together as families. Marriage was highly valued until Democratic Great Society programs inadvertently provided incentives to men to leave the home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:so if you believe that fetal rights begin at heartbeat then what is your stance on abortion if it threatens the life of the mother? Does the rights of the fetus supersede the right of the mother's life?

What if there is a conception at one of the youth camps in Texas? Is that fetus an American citizen?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so if you believe that fetal rights begin at heartbeat then what is your stance on abortion if it threatens the life of the mother? Does the rights of the fetus supersede the right of the mother's life?

Good question. The logic of the extreme anti-abortion faction (that the fetus is a legal person from conception) would suggest that the life & health of the mother isn't enough of a reason to kill the other person. There is such thing as self-defense, but only in cases where the other party is a violent aggressor.

I’m adamantly pro choice, but I’ve never understood maternal health or rape/incest exceptions from the anti choice side. If abortion is murder, then it’s still murder in those cases too. I’m glad they exist because while I think any woman should have the right to end a pregnancy, I think women who are rape/incest survivors and mothers whose pregnancies put them at risk are some of the most vulnerable people and should definitely have access to abortions. It just seems like a hypocritical stance. However, I feel like calling people out on it might paint them into a corner and make them push to stop having those exceptions.

Right? I mean if you decide a taped woman/girl has more rights over her body than the embryo/fetus inside her, but think the situation is reversed if the couple’s birth control failed or they didn’t use any, then you are basically making a judgment not on the intrinsic worth of the embryo/fetus but on the mode of conception, that is you are judging the woman for whether she was stupid, careless, or slutty. So when it comes down to it, you don’t really value the embryo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so if you believe that fetal rights begin at heartbeat then what is your stance on abortion if it threatens the life of the mother? Does the rights of the fetus supersede the right of the mother's life?

Good question. The logic of the extreme anti-abortion faction (that the fetus is a legal person from conception) would suggest that the life & health of the mother isn't enough of a reason to kill the other person. There is such thing as self-defense, but only in cases where the other party is a violent aggressor.

I’m adamantly pro choice, but I’ve never understood maternal health or rape/incest exceptions from the anti choice side. If abortion is murder, then it’s still murder in those cases too. I’m glad they exist because while I think any woman should have the right to end a pregnancy, I think women who are rape/incest survivors and mothers whose pregnancies put them at risk are some of the most vulnerable people and should definitely have access to abortions. It just seems like a hypocritical stance. However, I feel like calling people out on it might paint them into a corner and make them push to stop having those exceptions.

Right? I mean if you decide a taped woman/girl has more rights over her body than the embryo/fetus inside her, but think the situation is reversed if the couple’s birth control failed or they didn’t use any, then you are basically making a judgment not on the intrinsic worth of the embryo/fetus but on the mode of conception, that is you are judging the woman for whether she was stupid, careless, or slutty. So when it comes down to it, you don’t really value the embryo.

Yes. It ALWAYS comes back to this.