Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread

[Anonymous]

It seems that Ms. Debra Katz didn't think Paula Jones had a case and dismissed her accusations in 1998, based on one incident; but she thinks Dr. Ford does? Guess it depends on the political views of the accuser.

https://www.nytimes.com/1998/03/15/us/testing-president-overview-experts-say-suit-against-president-faces-big-hurdles.html

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I went to Catholic school in the 1980s. Absolutely if they put there were "x girl alum" ion their yearbook it's a sexual inference. And I don't buy the explanation that it was "they went to a dance together" or "kissed" or whatever. That is 1980 fake Latin Catholic speak for I HIT THAT.

What was 1980 fake Latin Catholic girls' speak if they were sexually promiscuous?

Wouldn't know. I was a virgin and could produce a witness (my husband) to that effect if people wrongly accused me of sexual assault in HS. Kav claims he was a virgin "for many years" after HS. Can't wait to see if the ladies he knew in HS and early college agree.

The problem here is not sex, the problem is lies. He could have said he partied as a teen and did things he wasn't proud of, even as he denied assault. Instead his pretense of having been a relatively innocent angel is being seriously undermined by the weight of the overall evidence.

You didn’t see his interview yesterday, did you? Because, he pretty much said exactly that.

No he didn’t. He went full teetotaling virgin. He’s so full of shit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The comments here are so damned predictable. “He made her do the interview.” His wife “doesn’t trust him.” Face it - Nothing he or she does would change your minds. They didn’t hold hands so they aren’t close. Had they held hands, they would have been “trying too hard.” “It was so sad to see that Brett Kavanaugh showed no emotion.” Had he shown emotion, he would be too “volatile” in your little minds.

One thing that has become abundantly clear - He could provide undisputed proof that he is totally innocent of these allegations and you people would still convict him. Because of “yearbooks” or some other stupid reason. “Well, Georgetown prep was the school you didn’t date boys from so he is not qualified.”

I find it so telling that people here are all about “believing her” with absolutely no proof, no details, no evidence. These women are actually setting back the efforts of abused women.

You dismiss crime victims so easily because of politics. Sad.

DP. Not dismissing crime victims. But also not immediately believing their unproven accusations because of politics, which is what many posters here are doing. Sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It seems that Ms. Debra Katz didn't think Paula Jones had a case and dismissed her accusations in 1998, based on one incident; but she thinks Dr. Ford does? Guess it depends on the political views of the accuser.

https://www.nytimes.com/1998/03/15/us/testing-president-overview-experts-say-suit-against-president-faces-big-hurdles.html

It's as if you missed the entire MeToo movement.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The comments here are so damned predictable. “He made her do the interview.” His wife “doesn’t trust him.” Face it - Nothing he or she does would change your minds. They didn’t hold hands so they aren’t close. Had they held hands, they would have been “trying too hard.” “It was so sad to see that Brett Kavanaugh showed no emotion.” Had he shown emotion, he would be too “volatile” in your little minds.

One thing that has become abundantly clear - He could provide undisputed proof that he is totally innocent of these allegations and you people would still convict him. Because of “yearbooks” or some other stupid reason. “Well, Georgetown prep was the school you didn’t date boys from so he is not qualified.”

I find it so telling that people here are all about “believing her” with absolutely no proof, no details, no evidence. These women are actually setting back the efforts of abused women.

You dismiss crime victims so easily because of politics. Sad.

You believe uncorroborated accusations so easily because of politics. Sad.

There is corroboration. Why do you ignore that. And the FBI could easily find more by getting sworn statements. That’s what Kavanaugh should be demanding. It’s what an innocent person would demand.

not re Dr. Ford's accusation

[Anonymous]

Renate needs to be called to testify. She needs to be asked in her opinion, what is the insinuation all those guys made in the year book. Then all the guys who put her name in the year book need to be called to testify about what kind of parties they went to. Kavanaugh denies being a drunk and a pussy grabber (or equivalent). OK, let's see what the Renate Alum club says under oath about what actually went on at those parties.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The comments here are so damned predictable. “He made her do the interview.” His wife “doesn’t trust him.” Face it - Nothing he or she does would change your minds. They didn’t hold hands so they aren’t close. Had they held hands, they would have been “trying too hard.” “It was so sad to see that Brett Kavanaugh showed no emotion.” Had he shown emotion, he would be too “volatile” in your little minds.

One thing that has become abundantly clear - He could provide undisputed proof that he is totally innocent of these allegations and you people would still convict him. Because of “yearbooks” or some other stupid reason. “Well, Georgetown prep was the school you didn’t date boys from so he is not qualified.”

I find it so telling that people here are all about “believing her” with absolutely no proof, no details, no evidence. These women are actually setting back the efforts of abused women.

You dismiss crime victims so easily because of politics. Sad.

DP. Not dismissing crime victims. But also not immediately believing their unproven accusations because of politics, which is what many posters here are doing. Sad.

The fact that Mark Judge isn't supporting his friend is meaningful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems that Ms. Debra Katz didn't think Paula Jones had a case and dismissed her accusations in 1998, based on one incident; but she thinks Dr. Ford does? Guess it depends on the political views of the accuser.

https://www.nytimes.com/1998/03/15/us/testing-president-overview-experts-say-suit-against-president-faces-big-hurdles.html

It's as if you missed the entire MeToo movement.

PP here. I haven't missed anything, and I can read Ms. Katz's comments re a Clinton accuser and those re a Kavanaugh accuser. And it's all in the NY Times, no less.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Granted I didn't watch the interview, but it's kinda shitty that he made her appear on national television, judging from people's observations here. It doesn't sound like she is a Kellyanne Conway type, who relishes media appearances.

This reminds me of the Good Wife. But, much, much worse.

I don't feel bad for her-- she had to know what she was marrying. But I do feel terrible for their daughters.

Meh. Not necessarily. Guys like Kavanaugh and his crew know how to be charming, articulate, and put on a good show - it's no doubt part of what was stressed at Georgetown Prep. They know how to keep their hijinks private and in their circle and they crush anyone who dares violate that code.

It's entirely possible, that Mrs. Kavanaugh really didn't know who she was marrying. No doubt Brett was a charming and dashing beau who seemed to be going places. He kept his past behavior private - as did everyone him. I do feel sorry for her and for their daughters.

+1. She met him long after high school and college. She probably had no idea about this side of him.

Let’s drop the misogyny that lies in blaming the wife and saying she should have known. She shouldn’t be a part of it. He shouldn’t be dragging her in front of cameras. It’s a way of invoking the “how dare you hurt my lovely family” defense. Nor should people be saying she knew and deserves any pain. Kids and wives should be left out of attacks.

You should know that there are many women who would want to be beside their husband to support him, given these terrible unsubstantiated accusations. You don't know that she was forced to be there.

+ 1 Also, the posters here who have already decided he's guilty would have had a field day if his wife did not show up.

She shows up: He forced her to show up.
She doesn't: See....she doesn't believe her own husband.

The guy has been tried, found guilty, and sentenced by you people - and we haven't even heard his accuser speak.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Renate needs to be called to testify. She needs to be asked in her opinion, what is the insinuation all those guys made in the year book. Then all the guys who put her name in the year book need to be called to testify about what kind of parties they went to. Kavanaugh denies being a drunk and a pussy grabber (or equivalent). OK, let's see what the Renate Alum club says under oath about what actually went on at those parties.

Perhaps Renate would prefer to not participate in questioning under oath?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems that Ms. Debra Katz didn't think Paula Jones had a case and dismissed her accusations in 1998, based on one incident; but she thinks Dr. Ford does? Guess it depends on the political views of the accuser.

https://www.nytimes.com/1998/03/15/us/testing-president-overview-experts-say-suit-against-president-faces-big-hurdles.html

It's as if you missed the entire MeToo movement.

DP. Does the MeeToo movement mean we should take at face value every accusation, regardless of evidence or lack thereof, as the gospel truth?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The comments here are so damned predictable. “He made her do the interview.” His wife “doesn’t trust him.” Face it - Nothing he or she does would change your minds. They didn’t hold hands so they aren’t close. Had they held hands, they would have been “trying too hard.” “It was so sad to see that Brett Kavanaugh showed no emotion.” Had he shown emotion, he would be too “volatile” in your little minds.

One thing that has become abundantly clear - He could provide undisputed proof that he is totally innocent of these allegations and you people would still convict him. Because of “yearbooks” or some other stupid reason. “Well, Georgetown prep was the school you didn’t date boys from so he is not qualified.”

I find it so telling that people here are all about “believing her” with absolutely no proof, no details, no evidence. These women are actually setting back the efforts of abused women.

You dismiss crime victims so easily because of politics. Sad.

You believe uncorroborated accusations so easily because of politics. Sad.

There is corroboration. Why do you ignore that. And the FBI could easily find more by getting sworn statements. That’s what Kavanaugh should be demanding. It’s what an innocent person would demand.

not re Dr. Ford's accusation

There is. Threre are polygraphs, statements to therapists, statements to others, all done years ago. Let’s get all the facts out instead of trying to plow this nomination through. There are many other conservative judges who are reading and willing to take this seat who do not have such a sordid past of documented heavy drinking, slut shaming, and alleged sexual assault.

[Anonymous]

Teenage boys in America are watching and learning how far they can push the envelope and claim “normal high school/college boy behavior”. The public discourse matters just as much as what Kavanaugh did or didn’t do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems that Ms. Debra Katz didn't think Paula Jones had a case and dismissed her accusations in 1998, based on one incident; but she thinks Dr. Ford does? Guess it depends on the political views of the accuser.

https://www.nytimes.com/1998/03/15/us/testing-president-overview-experts-say-suit-against-president-faces-big-hurdles.html

It's as if you missed the entire MeToo movement.

DP. Does the MeeToo movement mean we should take at face value every accusation, regardless of evidence or lack thereof, as the gospel truth?

Exactly why an FBI investiagtion is needed to clear Kavanaugh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The comments here are so damned predictable. “He made her do the interview.” His wife “doesn’t trust him.” Face it - Nothing he or she does would change your minds. They didn’t hold hands so they aren’t close. Had they held hands, they would have been “trying too hard.” “It was so sad to see that Brett Kavanaugh showed no emotion.” Had he shown emotion, he would be too “volatile” in your little minds.

One thing that has become abundantly clear - He could provide undisputed proof that he is totally innocent of these allegations and you people would still convict him. Because of “yearbooks” or some other stupid reason. “Well, Georgetown prep was the school you didn’t date boys from so he is not qualified.”

I find it so telling that people here are all about “believing her” with absolutely no proof, no details, no evidence. These women are actually setting back the efforts of abused women.

You dismiss crime victims so easily because of politics. Sad.

You believe uncorroborated accusations so easily because of politics. Sad.

There is corroboration. Why do you ignore that. And the FBI could easily find more by getting sworn statements. That’s what Kavanaugh should be demanding. It’s what an innocent person would demand.

not re Dr. Ford's accusation

Nor Ramirez's--just an anonymous someone who said he had heard something from an unknown someone else.