FCPS Early Release Mondays

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Anonymous wrote:How did we all learn to read without all this extra training for our teachers?

For one, your teachers taught you phonics and for two, you didn’t have screens rotting your brain.

1) Screens are not going to be solved by early release workdays. In fact, this new training will probably lead to kids doing more Lexia on screens since that is meant to teach phonics.
2) Phonics are only meant to be taught up to 2nd grade by general ed teachers. There is no need to teach 5th grade teachers how to teach the difference between Rot and Rote.

VLA is through eighth grade and is about far more than phonics.

Additionally, do you think fifth grade teachers should just give up on kids who didn't learn phonics by second grade?

Those kids that are still struggling with reading in 5th grade should be in special Ed.

This is why it’s so laughable that so many of you feel qualified to say what schools should or should not be doing. Just a bozo every which way.

You seem to miss my point. Kids who can’t actually read by 5th grade have problems. They would have been weeded out to a trade school in Europe at this point. They should be weeded out but they aren’t. But seriously, it a child can’t read by 5th grade that is grounds for special ed. This is why so many parents want AAP.

Most of the kids who struggle with reading in 5th are ESL or SPED or dually identified.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How did we all learn to read without all this extra training for our teachers?

For one, your teachers taught you phonics and for two, you didn’t have screens rotting your brain.

1) Screens are not going to be solved by early release workdays. In fact, this new training will probably lead to kids doing more Lexia on screens since that is meant to teach phonics.
2) Phonics are only meant to be taught up to 2nd grade by general ed teachers. There is no need to teach 5th grade teachers how to teach the difference between Rot and Rote.

VLA is through eighth grade and is about far more than phonics.

Additionally, do you think fifth grade teachers should just give up on kids who didn't learn phonics by second grade?

Those kids that are still struggling with reading in 5th grade should be in special Ed.

This is why it’s so laughable that so many of you feel qualified to say what schools should or should not be doing. Just a bozo every which way.

You seem to miss my point. Kids who can’t actually read by 5th grade have problems. They would have been weeded out to a trade school in Europe at this point. They should be weeded out but they aren’t. But seriously, it a child can’t read by 5th grade that is grounds for special ed. This is why so many parents want AAP.

Most of the kids who struggle with reading in 5th are ESL or SPED or dually identified.

Yes, I would hope so. To just have a kid who can’t read without any support in 5th would be very odd.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How did we all learn to read without all this extra training for our teachers?

For one, your teachers taught you phonics and for two, you didn’t have screens rotting your brain.

1) Screens are not going to be solved by early release workdays. In fact, this new training will probably lead to kids doing more Lexia on screens since that is meant to teach phonics.
2) Phonics are only meant to be taught up to 2nd grade by general ed teachers. There is no need to teach 5th grade teachers how to teach the difference between Rot and Rote.

VLA is through eighth grade and is about far more than phonics.

Additionally, do you think fifth grade teachers should just give up on kids who didn't learn phonics by second grade?

Those kids that are still struggling with reading in 5th grade should be in special Ed.

This is why it’s so laughable that so many of you feel qualified to say what schools should or should not be doing. Just a bozo every which way.

You seem to miss my point. Kids who can’t actually read by 5th grade have problems. They would have been weeded out to a trade school in Europe at this point. They should be weeded out but they aren’t. But seriously, it a child can’t read by 5th grade that is grounds for special ed. This is why so many parents want AAP.

Most of the kids who struggle with reading in 5th are ESL or SPED or dually identified.

Yes, I would hope so. To just have a kid who can’t read without any support in 5th would be very odd.

Very, very few kids are in 5th grade who truly “can’t read” as in, can’t sound out words or decode OR comprehend. People use “can’t read” to describe a wide spectrum of difficulty reading, from stamina to prosody to comprehension to spelling. A lot of kids struggle in one or more of these areas but technically can read, and their reading difficulty does NOT (nor should it) automatically qualify them for special education. It may necessitate pull out support with a reading specialist and small group support in their classroom, but it is not in and of itself a sign a student has a disability to the degree that they meet the standards of being eligible for special education.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did we all learn to read without all this extra training for our teachers?

For one, your teachers taught you phonics and for two, you didn’t have screens rotting your brain.

1) Screens are not going to be solved by early release workdays. In fact, this new training will probably lead to kids doing more Lexia on screens since that is meant to teach phonics.
2) Phonics are only meant to be taught up to 2nd grade by general ed teachers. There is no need to teach 5th grade teachers how to teach the difference between Rot and Rote.

VLA is through eighth grade and is about far more than phonics.

Additionally, do you think fifth grade teachers should just give up on kids who didn't learn phonics by second grade?

Those kids that are still struggling with reading in 5th grade should be in special Ed.

Not true. Some kids aren’t diagnosed with a vision disorder called convergence insufficiency until they are in 4th or 5th grade and that’s only if they have someone who is really proactive. It is not commonly diagnosed because the child/person can still have 20/20 vision and often masked by ADHD symptoms in young kids. My child went from a 3rd grade reading level to a 6th grade reading level in 3 months after diagnosis and using prism glasses to correct the issue.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How did we all learn to read without all this extra training for our teachers?

For one, your teachers taught you phonics and for two, you didn’t have screens rotting your brain.

1) Screens are not going to be solved by early release workdays. In fact, this new training will probably lead to kids doing more Lexia on screens since that is meant to teach phonics.
2) Phonics are only meant to be taught up to 2nd grade by general ed teachers. There is no need to teach 5th grade teachers how to teach the difference between Rot and Rote.

VLA is through eighth grade and is about far more than phonics.

Additionally, do you think fifth grade teachers should just give up on kids who didn't learn phonics by second grade?

Those kids that are still struggling with reading in 5th grade should be in special Ed.

This is why it’s so laughable that so many of you feel qualified to say what schools should or should not be doing. Just a bozo every which way.

You seem to miss my point. Kids who can’t actually read by 5th grade have problems. They would have been weeded out to a trade school in Europe at this point. They should be weeded out but they aren’t. But seriously, it a child can’t read by 5th grade that is grounds for special ed. This is why so many parents want AAP.

I think I may be missing another one of your moronic points this time.. weeded out and sent to a trade school?!?!

Why, because people in trades don’t need to read??

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How did we all learn to read without all this extra training for our teachers?

For one, your teachers taught you phonics and for two, you didn’t have screens rotting your brain.

For three your parents parented and didn't let you watch that screen to all hours of the night.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did we all learn to read without all this extra training for our teachers?

For one, your teachers taught you phonics and for two, you didn’t have screens rotting your brain.

1) Screens are not going to be solved by early release workdays. In fact, this new training will probably lead to kids doing more Lexia on screens since that is meant to teach phonics.
2) Phonics are only meant to be taught up to 2nd grade by general ed teachers. There is no need to teach 5th grade teachers how to teach the difference between Rot and Rote.

VLA is through eighth grade and is about far more than phonics.

Additionally, do you think fifth grade teachers should just give up on kids who didn't learn phonics by second grade?

Those kids that are still struggling with reading in 5th grade should be in special Ed.

Oh I love when parents like to act like experts in education...this is laughable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How did we all learn to read without all this extra training for our teachers?

For one, your teachers taught you phonics and for two, you didn’t have screens rotting your brain.

1) Screens are not going to be solved by early release workdays. In fact, this new training will probably lead to kids doing more Lexia on screens since that is meant to teach phonics.
2) Phonics are only meant to be taught up to 2nd grade by general ed teachers. There is no need to teach 5th grade teachers how to teach the difference between Rot and Rote.

VLA is through eighth grade and is about far more than phonics.

Additionally, do you think fifth grade teachers should just give up on kids who didn't learn phonics by second grade?

Those kids that are still struggling with reading in 5th grade should be in special Ed.

This is why it’s so laughable that so many of you feel qualified to say what schools should or should not be doing. Just a bozo every which way.

You seem to miss my point. Kids who can’t actually read by 5th grade have problems. They would have been weeded out to a trade school in Europe at this point. They should be weeded out but they aren’t. But seriously, it a child can’t read by 5th grade that is grounds for special ed. This is why so many parents want AAP.

Most of the kids who struggle with reading in 5th are ESL or SPED or dually identified.

Yes, I would hope so. To just have a kid who can’t read without any support in 5th would be very odd.

Very, very few kids are in 5th grade who truly “can’t read” as in, can’t sound out words or decode OR comprehend. People use “can’t read” to describe a wide spectrum of difficulty reading, from stamina to prosody to comprehension to spelling. A lot of kids struggle in one or more of these areas but technically can read, and their reading difficulty does NOT (nor should it) automatically qualify them for special education. It may necessitate pull out support with a reading specialist and small group support in their classroom, but it is not in and of itself a sign a student has a disability to the degree that they meet the standards of being eligible for special education.

THIS!

Know-it-all, holier-than-thou parent(s) who keep(s) posting in this thread about special education, trade school, and AAP, please read and reread the message above.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did we all learn to read without all this extra training for our teachers?

For one, your teachers taught you phonics and for two, you didn’t have screens rotting your brain.

1) Screens are not going to be solved by early release workdays. In fact, this new training will probably lead to kids doing more Lexia on screens since that is meant to teach phonics.
2) Phonics are only meant to be taught up to 2nd grade by general ed teachers. There is no need to teach 5th grade teachers how to teach the difference between Rot and Rote.

VLA is through eighth grade and is about far more than phonics.

Additionally, do you think fifth grade teachers should just give up on kids who didn't learn phonics by second grade?

Those kids that are still struggling with reading in 5th grade should be in special Ed.

Oh I love when parents like to act like experts in education...this is laughable.

And I love when teachers who are just a few years out of college and don't have kids of their own tell those of us who have been parenting for many years (and have been to several different schools and seen several different systems) that we know nothing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did we all learn to read without all this extra training for our teachers?

For one, your teachers taught you phonics and for two, you didn’t have screens rotting your brain.

1) Screens are not going to be solved by early release workdays. In fact, this new training will probably lead to kids doing more Lexia on screens since that is meant to teach phonics.
2) Phonics are only meant to be taught up to 2nd grade by general ed teachers. There is no need to teach 5th grade teachers how to teach the difference between Rot and Rote.

VLA is through eighth grade and is about far more than phonics.

Additionally, do you think fifth grade teachers should just give up on kids who didn't learn phonics by second grade?

Those kids that are still struggling with reading in 5th grade should be in special Ed.

Oh I love when parents like to act like experts in education...this is laughable.

And I love when teachers who are just a few years out of college and don't have kids of their own tell those of us who have been parenting for many years (and have been to several different schools and seen several different systems) that we know nothing.

How do you know they are young and childless? 20-something year olds are definitely NOT on DCUM.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did we all learn to read without all this extra training for our teachers?

For one, your teachers taught you phonics and for two, you didn’t have screens rotting your brain.

1) Screens are not going to be solved by early release workdays. In fact, this new training will probably lead to kids doing more Lexia on screens since that is meant to teach phonics.
2) Phonics are only meant to be taught up to 2nd grade by general ed teachers. There is no need to teach 5th grade teachers how to teach the difference between Rot and Rote.

VLA is through eighth grade and is about far more than phonics.

Additionally, do you think fifth grade teachers should just give up on kids who didn't learn phonics by second grade?

Those kids that are still struggling with reading in 5th grade should be in special Ed.

Oh I love when parents like to act like experts in education...this is laughable.

And I love when teachers who are just a few years out of college and don't have kids of their own tell those of us who have been parenting for many years (and have been to several different schools and seen several different systems) that we know nothing.

Parenting is a heck of a lot different than educating! Just because we have been to school doesn't mean we know anything about educating others.

As parents, we do not inherently know how to teach. That is the expertise of the educators. They understand how to evaluate needs, how to teach kids who have different learning styles, and how to meet needs of kids who are ready for a challenge.

I have an advanced degree in a specific field and I've been parenting for over 18 years. Does that mean I know anything about how to teach even the subject in which I have an advanced degree? No, of course not! I am not an educator.

It is unbelievable that some parents think they know as much as or more than an educator regarding how to teach others. I can't imagine having such a grandiose sense of self and such an obese ego.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did we all learn to read without all this extra training for our teachers?

For one, your teachers taught you phonics and for two, you didn’t have screens rotting your brain.

1) Screens are not going to be solved by early release workdays. In fact, this new training will probably lead to kids doing more Lexia on screens since that is meant to teach phonics.
2) Phonics are only meant to be taught up to 2nd grade by general ed teachers. There is no need to teach 5th grade teachers how to teach the difference between Rot and Rote.

VLA is through eighth grade and is about far more than phonics.

Additionally, do you think fifth grade teachers should just give up on kids who didn't learn phonics by second grade?

Those kids that are still struggling with reading in 5th grade should be in special Ed.

Oh I love when parents like to act like experts in education...this is laughable.

And I love when teachers who are just a few years out of college and don't have kids of their own tell those of us who have been parenting for many years (and have been to several different schools and seen several different systems) that we know nothing.

How do you know they are young and childless? 20-something year olds are definitely NOT on DCUM.

DP and I have seen a few who claim to be. Just check out this current thread, for example: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1213929.page

And there have been others.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did we all learn to read without all this extra training for our teachers?

For one, your teachers taught you phonics and for two, you didn’t have screens rotting your brain.

1) Screens are not going to be solved by early release workdays. In fact, this new training will probably lead to kids doing more Lexia on screens since that is meant to teach phonics.
2) Phonics are only meant to be taught up to 2nd grade by general ed teachers. There is no need to teach 5th grade teachers how to teach the difference between Rot and Rote.

VLA is through eighth grade and is about far more than phonics.

Additionally, do you think fifth grade teachers should just give up on kids who didn't learn phonics by second grade?

Those kids that are still struggling with reading in 5th grade should be in special Ed.

Oh I love when parents like to act like experts in education...this is laughable.

And I love when teachers who are just a few years out of college and don't have kids of their own tell those of us who have been parenting for many years (and have been to several different schools and seen several different systems) that we know nothing.

How do you know they are young and childless? 20-something year olds are definitely NOT on DCUM.

DP and I have seen a few who claim to be. Just check out this current thread, for example: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1213929.page

And there have been others.

Or old and childless. Most of my children's teachers (and principals!) have been childless.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How did we all learn to read without all this extra training for our teachers?

For one, your teachers taught you phonics and for two, you didn’t have screens rotting your brain.

1) Screens are not going to be solved by early release workdays. In fact, this new training will probably lead to kids doing more Lexia on screens since that is meant to teach phonics.
2) Phonics are only meant to be taught up to 2nd grade by general ed teachers. There is no need to teach 5th grade teachers how to teach the difference between Rot and Rote.

VLA is through eighth grade and is about far more than phonics.

Additionally, do you think fifth grade teachers should just give up on kids who didn't learn phonics by second grade?

Those kids that are still struggling with reading in 5th grade should be in special Ed.

Oh I love when parents like to act like experts in education...this is laughable.

And I love when teachers who are just a few years out of college and don't have kids of their own tell those of us who have been parenting for many years (and have been to several different schools and seen several different systems) that we know nothing.

How do you know they are young and childless? 20-something year olds are definitely NOT on DCUM.

DP and I have seen a few who claim to be. Just check out this current thread, for example: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1213929.page

And there have been others.

Or old and childless. Most of my children's teachers (and principals!) have been childless.

So? What does that have to do with their ability to teach?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did we all learn to read without all this extra training for our teachers?

For one, your teachers taught you phonics and for two, you didn’t have screens rotting your brain.

1) Screens are not going to be solved by early release workdays. In fact, this new training will probably lead to kids doing more Lexia on screens since that is meant to teach phonics.
2) Phonics are only meant to be taught up to 2nd grade by general ed teachers. There is no need to teach 5th grade teachers how to teach the difference between Rot and Rote.

VLA is through eighth grade and is about far more than phonics.

Additionally, do you think fifth grade teachers should just give up on kids who didn't learn phonics by second grade?

Those kids that are still struggling with reading in 5th grade should be in special Ed.

Oh I love when parents like to act like experts in education...this is laughable.

And I love when teachers who are just a few years out of college and don't have kids of their own tell those of us who have been parenting for many years (and have been to several different schools and seen several different systems) that we know nothing.

This is just embarrassing. Most teachers are also parents. You’re not one upping us there. You are not trained in education and child development - we are. We know when a kid having difficulty learning in some way rises to the level of needing special education or not - you are going by prejudice and gut feeling.