FCPS Early Release Mondays

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did we all learn to read without all this extra training for our teachers?

For one, your teachers taught you phonics and for two, you didn’t have screens rotting your brain.

1) Screens are not going to be solved by early release workdays. In fact, this new training will probably lead to kids doing more Lexia on screens since that is meant to teach phonics.
2) Phonics are only meant to be taught up to 2nd grade by general ed teachers. There is no need to teach 5th grade teachers how to teach the difference between Rot and Rote.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did we all learn to read without all this extra training for our teachers?

For one, your teachers taught you phonics and for two, you didn’t have screens rotting your brain.

Screens are rotting their brains in the classroom! What happened to actual text books?

For profit software companies, including Google and Microsoft, started Non-Profit Organizations to convince schools that textbooks were not as good as for-profit software. Getting rid of textbooks was meant to save money but now we just license Lexia and Prodigy for more money each year than it would cost to replace worn out textbooks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did we all learn to read without all this extra training for our teachers?

For one, your teachers taught you phonics and for two, you didn’t have screens rotting your brain.

1) Screens are not going to be solved by early release workdays. In fact, this new training will probably lead to kids doing more Lexia on screens since that is meant to teach phonics.
2) Phonics are only meant to be taught up to 2nd grade by general ed teachers. There is no need to teach 5th grade teachers how to teach the difference between Rot and Rote.

The Virginia Literacy Act covers literacy instruction way beyond phonics.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Instead of doing this Monday garbage, why not just move through start of school later? No on wants to start school on Aug 19 anyway. Leave it to FCPS to ruin a good thing (more planning for teachers) by picking the most inconvenient and painful implementation.

Pushing back the start date of school by a week or several days would violate IEPs. The iEPS are all written with services beginning on the first day of school per the calendar that sped teacher had. FCPS cannot do this. I wish they could! But they can't, because of special education services.

They did it the second year of COVID, when the start of school was pushed back 2 weeks until after Labor Day. Maybe there was some sort of waiver, no idea. Just saying it's been done before.

And then the litigious sped parents sued FCPS and demanded compensatory education and compensatory money! They are still battling FCPS about this.
There are a group of sped parents who hate FCPS/staff and want FCPS torched. You are very out of touch. FCPS cannot push back the start of school. Again, I wish they could....but they cannot.

You sounds old and antiquated. Come on, think outside the box. Of course the start date can be changed. Hours can be accommodated. Be creative. As a special ed parent, I'd MUCH prefer four full days scattered throughout the year than a smattering of random Mondays that are disruptive to the flow and consistency that's best for all kids.

(Acknowledging days at the beginning of the year might not work in this case, given that modules apparently won't be released by fall.)

I hear you. I wish FCPS could do that. I don't think most special needs parents would agree with you. They would say that the IEP is violated, since most hours are written per week with the first day of school clearly on the services page. Changing this would also require official IEP addendums (with or without meetings) for all children with IEPS, which is a ton of time. That is not manageable for the sped teachers. Nor the gen ed teachers/admin to be pulled out of class for the extra meetings. It's just not logistically possible, unfortunately.

My son has an IEP and I think half days are the worst.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Instead of doing this Monday garbage, why not just move through start of school later? No on wants to start school on Aug 19 anyway. Leave it to FCPS to ruin a good thing (more planning for teachers) by picking the most inconvenient and painful implementation.

Pushing back the start date of school by a week or several days would violate IEPs. The iEPS are all written with services beginning on the first day of school per the calendar that sped teacher had. FCPS cannot do this. I wish they could! But they can't, because of special education services.

They did it the second year of COVID, when the start of school was pushed back 2 weeks until after Labor Day. Maybe there was some sort of waiver, no idea. Just saying it's been done before.

And then the litigious sped parents sued FCPS and demanded compensatory education and compensatory money! They are still battling FCPS about this.
There are a group of sped parents who hate FCPS/staff and want FCPS torched. You are very out of touch. FCPS cannot push back the start of school. Again, I wish they could....but they cannot.

You sounds old and antiquated. Come on, think outside the box. Of course the start date can be changed. Hours can be accommodated. Be creative. As a special ed parent, I'd MUCH prefer four full days scattered throughout the year than a smattering of random Mondays that are disruptive to the flow and consistency that's best for all kids.

(Acknowledging days at the beginning of the year might not work in this case, given that modules apparently won't be released by fall.)

I hear you. I wish FCPS could do that. I don't think most special needs parents would agree with you. They would say that the IEP is violated, since most hours are written per week with the first day of school clearly on the services page. Changing this would also require official IEP addendums (with or without meetings) for all children with IEPS, which is a ton of time. That is not manageable for the sped teachers. Nor the gen ed teachers/admin to be pulled out of class for the extra meetings. It's just not logistically possible, unfortunately.

My son has an IEP and I think half days are the worst.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did we all learn to read without all this extra training for our teachers?

For one, your teachers taught you phonics and for two, you didn’t have screens rotting your brain.

1) Screens are not going to be solved by early release workdays. In fact, this new training will probably lead to kids doing more Lexia on screens since that is meant to teach phonics.
2) Phonics are only meant to be taught up to 2nd grade by general ed teachers. There is no need to teach 5th grade teachers how to teach the difference between Rot and Rote.

VLA is through eighth grade and is about far more than phonics.

Additionally, do you think fifth grade teachers should just give up on kids who didn't learn phonics by second grade?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did we all learn to read without all this extra training for our teachers?

For one, your teachers taught you phonics and for two, you didn’t have screens rotting your brain.

1) Screens are not going to be solved by early release workdays. In fact, this new training will probably lead to kids doing more Lexia on screens since that is meant to teach phonics.
2) Phonics are only meant to be taught up to 2nd grade by general ed teachers. There is no need to teach 5th grade teachers how to teach the difference between Rot and Rote.

VLA is through eighth grade and is about far more than phonics.

Additionally, do you think fifth grade teachers should just give up on kids who didn't learn phonics by second grade?

Those kids that are still struggling with reading in 5th grade should be in special Ed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did we all learn to read without all this extra training for our teachers?

For one, your teachers taught you phonics and for two, you didn’t have screens rotting your brain.

1) Screens are not going to be solved by early release workdays. In fact, this new training will probably lead to kids doing more Lexia on screens since that is meant to teach phonics.
2) Phonics are only meant to be taught up to 2nd grade by general ed teachers. There is no need to teach 5th grade teachers how to teach the difference between Rot and Rote.

VLA is through eighth grade and is about far more than phonics.

Additionally, do you think fifth grade teachers should just give up on kids who didn't learn phonics by second grade?

Those kids that are still struggling with reading in 5th grade should be in special Ed.

Okay, good luck with that!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did we all learn to read without all this extra training for our teachers?

For one, your teachers taught you phonics and for two, you didn’t have screens rotting your brain.

1) Screens are not going to be solved by early release workdays. In fact, this new training will probably lead to kids doing more Lexia on screens since that is meant to teach phonics.
2) Phonics are only meant to be taught up to 2nd grade by general ed teachers. There is no need to teach 5th grade teachers how to teach the difference between Rot and Rote.

VLA is through eighth grade and is about far more than phonics.

Additionally, do you think fifth grade teachers should just give up on kids who didn't learn phonics by second grade?

Those kids that are still struggling with reading in 5th grade should be in special Ed.

Okay, good luck with that!

+1, LOL, plenty of kids don’t know how to read and don’t have a learning disability.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did we all learn to read without all this extra training for our teachers?

For one, your teachers taught you phonics and for two, you didn’t have screens rotting your brain.

1) Screens are not going to be solved by early release workdays. In fact, this new training will probably lead to kids doing more Lexia on screens since that is meant to teach phonics.
2) Phonics are only meant to be taught up to 2nd grade by general ed teachers. There is no need to teach 5th grade teachers how to teach the difference between Rot and Rote.

Yes, because all kids can decode everything by age 8. And kids new to the country don’t need to learn how the English language works. /s

Last year we had 35% of the 5th grade learning to read through daily phonics lessons. Most of those kids had been in the country less than 3 years and made amazing gains.

And the science of reading IS NOT JUST PHONICS. It is fluency, language comprehension, reading comprehension, morphology & more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did we all learn to read without all this extra training for our teachers?

For one, your teachers taught you phonics and for two, you didn’t have screens rotting your brain.

1) Screens are not going to be solved by early release workdays. In fact, this new training will probably lead to kids doing more Lexia on screens since that is meant to teach phonics.
2) Phonics are only meant to be taught up to 2nd grade by general ed teachers. There is no need to teach 5th grade teachers how to teach the difference between Rot and Rote.

VLA is through eighth grade and is about far more than phonics.

Additionally, do you think fifth grade teachers should just give up on kids who didn't learn phonics by second grade?

Those kids that are still struggling with reading in 5th grade should be in special Ed.

This is why it’s so laughable that so many of you feel qualified to say what schools should or should not be doing. Just a bozo every which way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did we all learn to read without all this extra training for our teachers?

For one, your teachers taught you phonics and for two, you didn’t have screens rotting your brain.

1) Screens are not going to be solved by early release workdays. In fact, this new training will probably lead to kids doing more Lexia on screens since that is meant to teach phonics.
2) Phonics are only meant to be taught up to 2nd grade by general ed teachers. There is no need to teach 5th grade teachers how to teach the difference between Rot and Rote.

VLA is through eighth grade and is about far more than phonics.

Additionally, do you think fifth grade teachers should just give up on kids who didn't learn phonics by second grade?

Those kids that are still struggling with reading in 5th grade should be in special Ed.

This is why it’s so laughable that so many of you feel qualified to say what schools should or should not be doing. Just a bozo every which way.

But they went to school, so they know,how to teach! They went to school, so they know how to run a school system!

Just the same, they've been to a hospital, so they know how to practice medicine. They use electricity, so they know how to diagnose electrical issues. They've used a telescope, so they're qualified to work for NASA. They've voted, so they're qualified to be President.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did we all learn to read without all this extra training for our teachers?

For one, your teachers taught you phonics and for two, you didn’t have screens rotting your brain.

1) Screens are not going to be solved by early release workdays. In fact, this new training will probably lead to kids doing more Lexia on screens since that is meant to teach phonics.
2) Phonics are only meant to be taught up to 2nd grade by general ed teachers. There is no need to teach 5th grade teachers how to teach the difference between Rot and Rote.

VLA is through eighth grade and is about far more than phonics.

Additionally, do you think fifth grade teachers should just give up on kids who didn't learn phonics by second grade?

Those kids that are still struggling with reading in 5th grade should be in special Ed.

This is why it’s so laughable that so many of you feel qualified to say what schools should or should not be doing. Just a bozo every which way.

You seem to miss my point. Kids who can’t actually read by 5th grade have problems. They would have been weeded out to a trade school in Europe at this point. They should be weeded out but they aren’t. But seriously, it a child can’t read by 5th grade that is grounds for special ed. This is why so many parents want AAP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did we all learn to read without all this extra training for our teachers?

For one, your teachers taught you phonics and for two, you didn’t have screens rotting your brain.

1) Screens are not going to be solved by early release workdays. In fact, this new training will probably lead to kids doing more Lexia on screens since that is meant to teach phonics.
2) Phonics are only meant to be taught up to 2nd grade by general ed teachers. There is no need to teach 5th grade teachers how to teach the difference between Rot and Rote.

VLA is through eighth grade and is about far more than phonics.

Additionally, do you think fifth grade teachers should just give up on kids who didn't learn phonics by second grade?

Those kids that are still struggling with reading in 5th grade should be in special Ed.

This is why it’s so laughable that so many of you feel qualified to say what schools should or should not be doing. Just a bozo every which way.

You seem to miss my point. Kids who can’t actually read by 5th grade have problems. They would have been weeded out to a trade school in Europe at this point. They should be weeded out but they aren’t. But seriously, it a child can’t read by 5th grade that is grounds for special ed. This is why so many parents want AAP.

I absolutely didn’t miss your point. You just don’t know what you’re talking about. And your kid is not a genius or qualified for AAP just because you think other kids are stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:While they have added these one-a-month early release Mondays for the new curriculum training and other required meetings, they should add more for actual teacher planning time and collaboration if necessary.

Taking away early release Mondays 8 or 9 years ago was a mistake and caused problem. So they should return to that.

It was every Monday when I was a kid and it was AMAZING! For the kids. Parents...not so much!