Asian American student with 1590 SAT score blames affirmative action for rejections from 6 colleges
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Anonymous
Apparently not, the asians and rich white kids only want to go to school with other similar kids. They do not see the value in working to ensure bright blacks and latinos go to top colleges as well. They would not be complaining at all if there were no blacks or hispanics at their school |
Anonymous
They want to go best possible school. They are color blind when it comes to academics. |
Anonymous
But to the rich kids (both white and asian) who have been prepping their kids for Ivy or bust since they were born, they do not seem smart enough to recognize that gpa and sat alone is not what most colleges are looking for. No, their 1600 kid is not smarter than the kid with a 1450---both are really smart and the 1450 might just bring more to the table overall once you look outside test taking. So much goes into picking the right kids for each T25 school (and even those lower ranked). Interests, majors, demographics, economic background, etc....all play a role. But these parents can only respond with "but my kid got a 1590 and is smarter than everyone else". Maybe therein lies the issues---the kid is a robot, programmed to excel at test taking, getting good grades and participating in activities that check the boxes for college, but the kid is not the highly motivated, change the world go getter that Harvard is looking for. In reality the "special sauce"/"it factor"/"likeability"/EQ whatever you want to call it does help them decide who is the best fit. But also you've gotta recognize that even then, they will still turn away many more than they accept who are the whole picture and would make excellent students. |
Anonymous
If there were no Blacks or Hispanics at a certain school, only thing we need to make sure is that there was no racial discrimination. |
Anonymous
When only 7% of the us population is asian, and 30% of Harvard's incoming class is asian, it seems hard to say they are discriminating. Are you going to try to tell me that blacks and latinos are not as smart as asians? |
Anonymous
As long as it was a fair competition. If there was a racial discrimination, that's a totally different story. The US Supreme Court will stop to that. |
Anonymous
+1 |
Anonymous
When 95% of the applicants are rejected, that means many many highly qualified applicants are rejected. Hard to distinguish the differences between applicants and say why exactly they were not admitted. Fact is Harvard turns away many many highly qualified candidates---over 50K applicants were told NO, despite the fact 45K+ of the rejected were likely highly qualified. |
Anonymous
What does the % of total population have to do with anything? Is the entire population applying to Harvard? It's about % of total applicants, not % of total population. The % of total applicants of Asian American is MUCH higher than the total % of URM applicants. So, stands to reason that there would be way more Asian American students admitted. Harvard case revealed that AOs are basically profiling Asian American students as "not likeable" without ever having met them, even as the Interviewers marked them as "likeable". When cops profiled black people what did the courts state? That profiling was illegal, right? As to whether URMs are not as smart as Asians... If their scores were as high as Asian Americans, we wouldn't be having this conversation. But that's not the case. So, I'll just leave it at that. |
Anonymous
It is a discrimination if you ask for higher standard to an individual because of certain race. Not sure about smart, but Asians seem to care more about education and try harder. On the side note, many of the studies say Asians have higher IQ on the average, but I think those data has flaws. https://www.worlddata.info/iq-by-country.php |
Anonymous
you're both kind of dumb. The law doesn't require that a school reflects the population demographics. The law requires that schools do not racially discriminate. I guess black people don't care about Asians being discriminated. They only care if black people are discriminated against. See how that works? |
Anonymous
That's why we have the US Supreme Court. Let's wait for the decision. |
Anonymous
Not necessarily smarter as a group, but one thing for sure: Asian parents are much harsher disciplinarians than Black, Hispanic, or even White patients in general. Have you read a book by Yale Law Professor Amy Chua, “Battle Hymn of Tiger Mother” published over a decade ago? Her own father, Leon Chua, was a famous professor of EE at UCB. Her dad and mom came to US basically penniless and her dad worked his xxx off to get his Ph.D. Intelligence is relevant, of course, but it’s really about hard work. That book is a bit depressing to read though—how she treated her own two daughters. But both went to Ivys. I believe her old daughter went to Yale Law and clerked for Justice Kavanaugh. One thing Amy Chua’s book is revealing—although it’s a pretty well known fact—if an Asian child breaks rules or is lazy, he/she is likely to face far harsher punishment in an Asian family than in a White, Black or Hispanic family. Of course, each family is different. But in general it’s true. |
Anonymous
| It’s ironic to say this—the Asians are now the torchbearers of American Puritanism. Hard work and discipline. |
Anonymous
Were there any Asian American plaintiffs in the Supreme Court cases claiming discrimination? No. A quasi white nationalist attacking voting rights and college access for blacks is merely using Asians as pawns. Or maybe it's just a troll or two on anonymous forums making the most noise. |