Asian American student with 1590 SAT score blames affirmative action for rejections from 6 colleges

[Anonymous]

He should sue and he should win. These kids work their tails off and then they are rejected because of race. It's outrageous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So he's one of a gazillion stem-focused Asian applicants with very high stats. Why is it so difficult to grasp statistics, and the fact that profile differentiation is necessary for all applicants?

This. So smart and yet not so smart.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:WTF?

Two or three of these universities are TEST BLIND.

Kid, you are too smart for your family. I know they love you, but they're using you to wrestle with their own demons.

That's harsh. The article says both parents are immigrants. If I understand correctly in China there is a single test that decides everyone's future. One chance to succeed or fail.

It is not like here in America where you get to keep failing until you either give up or succeed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am in favor of affirmative action but find the odds presented in that article entirely plausible.

Here's a similar observation from another proponent of affirmative action:

"So imagine kids who have roughly a 1300 SAT score out of 1600 and a high school GPA like - of, like, a 3.8 on a four-point scale - a quite good high school GPA. You'll have many universities where students with those scores and grades, if they are white, are very unlikely to be admitted to the university, whereas if they're Black or Hispanic are very likely to be admitted to the university. And that's going to vary for each school, but these admissions advantages can be considerable." (https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1181149142)

But he also found that "...access to more-selective universities was just fundamentally more valuable to the Black and Hispanic students targeted by race-based affirmative action than it would have been for the white and Asian students who ultimately took their place after affirmative action was banned. .... What I'm saying is just on average, Black and Hispanic students who gained access through affirmative action were deriving substantially above-average gains compared to the students who replaced them."

I think those of us who favor affirmative action have a responsibility to acknowledge what it means. I'm white and have high GPAs and scores, and I'd be fine with them not getting into as a selective a school as they might if they were Black or Hispanic, because they will still have plenty of opportunities at the very good schools they will likely end up at. My kids have Ivy-educated parents and grandparents; they have plenty of advantages, if they want to use them. I do think there should be additional focus on income; I would give a preference to the middle-class Black student, but also to a poor rural White student. But racial differences in precollege achievement are very large, so it can't be purely based on income.

It is proven that blacks and latinos attending an ivy will yield much more benefits for them than whites or Asians. Generally, white kids benefit from having parents who have those connections where it doesn't matter where the kid goes to college since they can rely on those connections for internships and jobs. This is generally not the case for blacks. Donating $10 mil to Harvard will have no real benefit for Harvard, however, donating that $10 mil to Howard will really make a difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:WTF?

Two or three of these universities are TEST BLIND.

Kid, you are too smart for your family. I know they love you, but they're using you to wrestle with their own demons.

That's harsh. The article says both parents are immigrants. If I understand correctly in China there is a single test that decides everyone's future. One chance to succeed or fail.

It is not like here in America where you get to keep failing until you either give up or succeed.

Oh! Look! Nuance.

Wrong forum for that, lady

[Anonymous]

These law suits have brought nothing but good stuff.

It revealed what they do in the closed doors.

There's huge room for improvements in the US system.

We need transparent and fair system for every individuals.

[Anonymous]

Can my unhooked son join the lawsuit? He was rejected from Harvard and Penn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:WTF?

Two or three of these universities are TEST BLIND.

Kid, you are too smart for your family. I know they love you, but they're using you to wrestle with their own demons.

That's harsh. The article says both parents are immigrants. If I understand correctly in China there is a single test that decides everyone's future. One chance to succeed or fail.

It is not like here in America where you get to keep failing until you either give up or succeed.

Sure, but he grew up here, and had enough savvy to get admitted to Georgia Tech. Either this kid, or his parents, or the jackals behind the lawsuit, led this kid to have some inappropriate expectations and to blame all of the wrong people when he didn't get exactly what he thought he "deserved."

[Anonymous]

I wonder whether the people suggesting this Asian candidate is a "dime a dozen" can actually point to very many Black or Hispanic students with similar credentials applying to the same schools.

But I can't feel too sorry for this kid because Georgia Tech is a very good school and likely to be more rigorous than one of the Ivies caught up in the diversity Olympics and diluting their reputations.

[Anonymous]

eh. my white kid had higher stats than that kid, and he got rejected to all those schools, too, including GA Tech.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This case is going nowhere. Those stats are run of the mill at those schools, regardless of ethnicity.

However 1450 kids get accepted with certain skin color or rich parents over 1590 kid because.... courage, kindness, and likability?

well, 2 of the schools he applied to are test blind, so probably yes at those. Or there was something they liked in those applications that he lacked--or something unattractive in his application.

For Harvard, it's courage, kindness, and likability however they evaluated the points.

And none of these factors (courage, kindness, likability) have any relevance whatsoever to academics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:eh. my white kid had higher stats than that kid, and he got rejected to all those schools, too, including GA Tech.

Your son did not have higher stats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:eh. my white kid had higher stats than that kid, and he got rejected to all those schools, too, including GA Tech.

There is no dispute: The college admission system is totally rigged against white and Asian applicants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:eh. my white kid had higher stats than that kid, and he got rejected to all those schools, too, including GA Tech.

Your son did not have higher stats.

Why not? Many people do.

[Anonymous]

Those politicians and elites who are pro-AA should set an example for the rest of us: they should voluntarily allow neurosurgeons who received their credentials through AA to operate on their brains.