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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]China and India alone have almost 3 billion citizens.

Chinese immigrants number about 2 million a year to the US.  Immigrants from India have about the same numbers.

These immigrants come here for education and better quality of life.  They are a tiny percentage of Asians but they are the most likely to be hardest working with some money and family connections.

I have a friend who came here from China as a child. We have children in the same grade and are close.  The rest of her extended family will not allow their children to be friends with American children.   They see Americans as lazy and a distraction.

It’s a different culture and with that amount of people the Asian population could easily fill MIT, Harvard, etc a thousand times over.  What are they supposed to do, especially if most of them go back to their country of origin?  [/quote]

I don’t understand the question…what are they supposed to do about what?

Why should we be sympathetic to the families that won’t assimilate?[/quote]

What are you talking about
They are the ones who assimilate to the American way and American dream - hardworking and competition

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No, the American way (which is what has made this country historically such a great place)…is that you are proud of your heritage but you are now an American and you want to embrace the country in its entirety (foibles and all).  If America evolved with just a bunch of ethnic cliques keeping to themselves, the country would have a much lower GDP and overall quality of life.

Help us really understand why you are immigrating here.  Someone posted a list of top engineering schools and 13/20 were in Asia, so no need to go to college in the US (in fact why would you?).  If you apparently hate the people and the system…help us understand.

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What are you talking about
Working hard and fair competition is not just the American way, it should be applied to everywhere
Since you asked, personally I followed my parents when I was a minor, and my kids were born here like you I guess.  
I don't hate anything.  I just found that the college admission system has a lot of flaws and room for improvements.  
It seems that the US Supreme Court would agree with me on some of them, and we'll see progress.  
Systems evolve.[/quote]

You are looking for a dictatorship. It is not here.

But go on with your tutoring. [/quote]

It seems that you don't understand the meaning of the word, dictatorship.
The colleges are acting like dictators when they are receiving all sorts of government aid and support.
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It is the colleges who get to decide who THEY want at THEIR school.  NOT the pushy parents. [/quote]
colleges shouldn't decide based on race, that's the point.  It's illegal to base anything on race, a protected class.[/quote]

You are correct, it should not be.  Most people (except Asians) believe it currently is not, except for URMs - please look up the meaning of URM.

Point being,[b] if all of one kind come to the U.S. at once, and most expect to be admitted, it is not going to happen.[/b] It has been this way for generations.  You were given bad information, and now you want that information to be true, when it is not. [/quote]
No one is "expecting" to be admitted to an elite college.  People are "expecting" to not be discriminated against their race.  I think black people would agree that no one should be discriminated against because of their race.[/quote]

Black people wish you would be just as vocal when it comes to pay disparity........right crickets....[/quote]
Paying someone less because of their race is illegal, as it should be. I'm glad you agree that they're both equally immoral.[/quote]

AND YET IT STILL HAPPENS THERE IS DATA SHOWING IT AND I DONT HEAR ASIAN AMERICANS TAKING UP THE BANNER FOR OTHERS. So excuse me, while I make sure that my black son takes your kids' seat.  :roll: [/quote]
you don't have to take up the banner for Asian Americans.   The lawsuit it doing that.

The NAACP rarely takes up the banner for other minorities other than black, other than platitudes.[/quote]

You didn't get the pointed jab about how black kids are taking AA seats because that's what this comes down to. AA act like the seats in institutions are already theirs. And they are overrepresented as it were. So just look at it this way, your Asian kid will go to a T25-50 and can still make more than a black kid Ivy grad. 
Thanks for playing![/quote]
don't know anyone who " act like the seats in institutions are already theirs.".  These kids study hard, work hard. They don't "act like the seat is already theirs".

The point is not about whether they will be ok. The point is that they are discriminated against based on their race, just like how those colleges discriminated against Jews.  Wrong then; wrong now.[/quote]

When only 7% of the us population is asian, and 30% of Harvard's incoming class is asian, it seems hard to say they are discriminating.  
Are you going to try to tell me that blacks and latinos are not as smart as asians?   [/quote]

It is a discrimination if you ask for higher standard to an individual because of certain race.
Not sure about smart, but Asians seem to care more about education and try harder.

On the side note, many of the studies say Asians have higher IQ on the average, but I think those data has flaws.
https://www.worlddata.info/iq-by-country.php

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