Boycott/ Divest and Pull your College App from All States which violate Our Daughters' Civil Rights

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Anonymous wrote:The pro-murder crowd is never going to see the light.

No one is forcing you to have sex in a majority of pregnancies. Can’t handle the result of sex, stop having it murderers!

+1

It is not forced birth, it is anti murder

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Anonymous wrote:When will people understand that it isn't about abortion. It is about autonomy. It is about the right of a woman to control her body. Banning abortions is not about abortion, it is about controlling women. I wouldn't get one ever, if my daughter wanted one, I would take her but I would be sad about it. How I feel about abortion or how I feel about anything shouldn't take precedence over another human being's autonomy in a civilized society.

Do you not get the pro-life position at all? They think it’s murder. You can’t tell someone who believes abortion is murder that they should be pro-choice about it. Your focus should be on explaining your views as to why you believe it’s not murder

Whether it is murder is irrelevant. The issue is whether a woman has bodily autonomy in the US period.

PP’s point is that you will not win over / convert many pro-life (anti-abortion) person with the autonomy argument. They consider the fetus a person and among, if not the, most vulnerable of all humans. They believe that having consensual sex (as opposed to rape) means that the adults involved are open to the possibility of creating a new life whether they use birth control or not. If they aren’t open to that then they should abstain. That’s the mindset.

They should recognize that their beliefs are based on their religion and they shouldn’t force their religion on others.

Believe whatever you want in your own home but don’t force it on others.

I’m an atheistic who shares this mindset. And why shouldn’t I “force” this belief on you?
Casey Anthony obviously believed she was within her right to kill her toddler. Is it wrong for us to force our moral objection to this on her?
The point is you need to focus your argument on explaining why it’s not murder. Not simply telling people who feel otherwise that committing murder should be a choice.

Because it’s not legally or morally murder. You aren’t a person until you are born.

So you are okay for a mother to choose to smoke crack, pot, cigs while pregnant? They can drink heavily too because they are not Carrying by a person?

Love the logic from the pro murder crowd!

I'm pro-choice, but this is an excellent point. If the fetus isn't a person, why worry about any of that?

How far down the line are we going to judge and penalize bad parenting?

No one should be forced to carry a pregnancy, give birth, or become a parent against their will. Period.

You can be forced to not use drugs while pregnant and punished afterwards? Why? Because you're pregnant with a developing baby. Not just a clump of cells.

No, you disingenuous putz, it’s negligent just like you can be held responsible for not pouring the concrete of a new construction building foundation properly thus resulting in a collapse once built and occupied.

Think about how stupid you sound trying to make the argument that “the construction project wasn’t a building yet so how can you be responsible for a weak foundation” is within this context. That’s about how stupid you sound using the same reasoning for a fetus.

DP. I'm reading your post and thinking just how disingenuous you sound. Wow.

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Anonymous wrote:When will people understand that it isn't about abortion. It is about autonomy. It is about the right of a woman to control her body. Banning abortions is not about abortion, it is about controlling women. I wouldn't get one ever, if my daughter wanted one, I would take her but I would be sad about it. How I feel about abortion or how I feel about anything shouldn't take precedence over another human being's autonomy in a civilized society.

Do you not get the pro-life position at all? They think it’s murder. You can’t tell someone who believes abortion is murder that they should be pro-choice about it. Your focus should be on explaining your views as to why you believe it’s not murder

Whether it is murder is irrelevant. The issue is whether a woman has bodily autonomy in the US period.

PP’s point is that you will not win over / convert many pro-life (anti-abortion) person with the autonomy argument. They consider the fetus a person and among, if not the, most vulnerable of all humans. They believe that having consensual sex (as opposed to rape) means that the adults involved are open to the possibility of creating a new life whether they use birth control or not. If they aren’t open to that then they should abstain. That’s the mindset.

They should recognize that their beliefs are based on their religion and they shouldn’t force their religion on others.

Believe whatever you want in your own home but don’t force it on others.

I’m an atheistic who shares this mindset. And why shouldn’t I “force” this belief on you?
Casey Anthony obviously believed she was within her right to kill her toddler. Is it wrong for us to force our moral objection to this on her?
The point is you need to focus your argument on explaining why it’s not murder. Not simply telling people who feel otherwise that committing murder should be a choice.

Because it’s not legally or morally murder. You aren’t a person until you are born.

So you are okay for a mother to choose to smoke crack, pot, cigs while pregnant? They can drink heavily too because they are not Carrying by a person?

Love the logic from the pro murder crowd!

I'm pro-choice, but this is an excellent point. If the fetus isn't a person, why worry about any of that?

How far down the line are we going to judge and penalize bad parenting?

No one should be forced to carry a pregnancy, give birth, or become a parent against their will. Period.

You're (deliberately?) missing the point. If the fetus isn't a human (according to you), then a pregnant woman is not a parent. So why do you consider it "bad parenting" if a pregnant woman eats poorly and/or uses drugs and alcohol while pregnant?

I never said a fetus isn’t human.

I said it’s not a “person” - not legally.

Oh, thanks for clarifying. We wouldn't want to split hairs here now, would we?

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Anonymous wrote:The pro-murder crowd is never going to see the light.

No one is forcing you to have sex in a majority of pregnancies. Can’t handle the result of sex, stop having it murderers!

You are surrounded by murderers. They are all around you.

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Anonymous wrote:When will people understand that it isn't about abortion. It is about autonomy. It is about the right of a woman to control her body. Banning abortions is not about abortion, it is about controlling women. I wouldn't get one ever, if my daughter wanted one, I would take her but I would be sad about it. How I feel about abortion or how I feel about anything shouldn't take precedence over another human being's autonomy in a civilized society.

Do you not get the pro-life position at all? They think it’s murder. You can’t tell someone who believes abortion is murder that they should be pro-choice about it. Your focus should be on explaining your views as to why you believe it’s not murder

Whether it is murder is irrelevant. The issue is whether a woman has bodily autonomy in the US period.

PP’s point is that you will not win over / convert many pro-life (anti-abortion) person with the autonomy argument. They consider the fetus a person and among, if not the, most vulnerable of all humans. They believe that having consensual sex (as opposed to rape) means that the adults involved are open to the possibility of creating a new life whether they use birth control or not. If they aren’t open to that then they should abstain. That’s the mindset.

They should recognize that their beliefs are based on their religion and they shouldn’t force their religion on others.

Believe whatever you want in your own home but don’t force it on others.

I’m an atheistic who shares this mindset. And why shouldn’t I “force” this belief on you?
Casey Anthony obviously believed she was within her right to kill her toddler. Is it wrong for us to force our moral objection to this on her?
The point is you need to focus your argument on explaining why it’s not murder. Not simply telling people who feel otherwise that committing murder should be a choice.

Because it’s not legally or morally murder. You aren’t a person until you are born.

So you are okay for a mother to choose to smoke crack, pot, cigs while pregnant? They can drink heavily too because they are not Carrying by a person?

Love the logic from the pro murder crowd!

I'm pro-choice, but this is an excellent point. If the fetus isn't a person, why worry about any of that?

How far down the line are we going to judge and penalize bad parenting?

No one should be forced to carry a pregnancy, give birth, or become a parent against their will. Period.

You're (deliberately?) missing the point. If the fetus isn't a human (according to you), then a pregnant woman is not a parent. So why do you consider it "bad parenting" if a pregnant woman eats poorly and/or uses drugs and alcohol while pregnant?

I never said a fetus isn’t human.

I said it’s not a “person” - not legally.

When a pregnant woman is murdered, the murderer is accused of 2 murders. Not a woman and her fetus, but a woman and her baby.

Not a 14th amendment person.

No social security number, no child support, etc.

OMG. So gross. And I'm pro-choice - but you are not making the case you think you are.
DP

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Anonymous wrote:When will people understand that it isn't about abortion. It is about autonomy. It is about the right of a woman to control her body. Banning abortions is not about abortion, it is about controlling women. I wouldn't get one ever, if my daughter wanted one, I would take her but I would be sad about it. How I feel about abortion or how I feel about anything shouldn't take precedence over another human being's autonomy in a civilized society.

Do you not get the pro-life position at all? They think it’s murder. You can’t tell someone who believes abortion is murder that they should be pro-choice about it. Your focus should be on explaining your views as to why you believe it’s not murder

I think it’s murder that some people are dying waiting for a kidney while others have two. They could save that recipient’s life and continue living themselves with a low risk medical procedure. How is this different?

So then, you yourself are a murderer if you currently have two kidneys? Wow. Your "logic" is really... something.
DP

My family has a history of genetic kidney disease. Don’t assume that I have two or that I don’t need one. Anyone who needs an organ (that people can survive without) should be able to get one from a live donor, if infertile women can carry signs that say, “I will adopt your baby!”
It is exactly the same thing. You can compel me to use my body to save the “life” of a fetus but not to save the actual life of a person? No.

This has got to be the worst attempt at an analogy I've ever seen. You make absolutely zero sense. Essentially, you're saying anyone walking around with two kidneys is a "murderer" because they could have/should have donated one of their kidneys. Do you even hear yourself?

Sure. So if the fetus is “alive” (which it would have to be, before it could be “murdered” then go ahead and deliver it. Oh, a first or second trimester fetus can’t survive outside the womb? Guess it isn’t alive, then.

With every post, you're proving to be sicker and sicker. Just stop posting and embarrassing yourself.

You should be embarrassed. Is cancer a person?

^^ Case in point. WTF?

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Anonymous wrote:When will people understand that it isn't about abortion. It is about autonomy. It is about the right of a woman to control her body. Banning abortions is not about abortion, it is about controlling women. I wouldn't get one ever, if my daughter wanted one, I would take her but I would be sad about it. How I feel about abortion or how I feel about anything shouldn't take precedence over another human being's autonomy in a civilized society.

Do you not get the pro-life position at all? They think it’s murder. You can’t tell someone who believes abortion is murder that they should be pro-choice about it. Your focus should be on explaining your views as to why you believe it’s not murder

Whether it is murder is irrelevant. The issue is whether a woman has bodily autonomy in the US period.

PP’s point is that you will not win over / convert many pro-life (anti-abortion) person with the autonomy argument. They consider the fetus a person and among, if not the, most vulnerable of all humans. They believe that having consensual sex (as opposed to rape) means that the adults involved are open to the possibility of creating a new life whether they use birth control or not. If they aren’t open to that then they should abstain. That’s the mindset.

They should recognize that their beliefs are based on their religion and they shouldn’t force their religion on others.

Believe whatever you want in your own home but don’t force it on others.

I’m an atheistic who shares this mindset. And why shouldn’t I “force” this belief on you?
Casey Anthony obviously believed she was within her right to kill her toddler. Is it wrong for us to force our moral objection to this on her?
The point is you need to focus your argument on explaining why it’s not murder. Not simply telling people who feel otherwise that committing murder should be a choice.

Because it’s not legally or morally murder. You aren’t a person until you are born.

So you are okay for a mother to choose to smoke crack, pot, cigs while pregnant? They can drink heavily too because they are not Carrying by a person?

Love the logic from the pro murder crowd!

I'm pro-choice, but this is an excellent point. If the fetus isn't a person, why worry about any of that?

How far down the line are we going to judge and penalize bad parenting?

No one should be forced to carry a pregnancy, give birth, or become a parent against their will. Period.

You're (deliberately?) missing the point. If the fetus isn't a human (according to you), then a pregnant woman is not a parent. So why do you consider it "bad parenting" if a pregnant woman eats poorly and/or uses drugs and alcohol while pregnant?

You are trying way too hard with this and it is tiresome.

Truth can hurt.

Yawn. Most pregnancies are wanted and the pregnant women tries to have a safe pregnancy and a healthy baby. Some are unwanted and are terminated for many different reasons. None of them are any of your business if they are not yours or of you are not invited in.

63 million should be worth more than a yawn.

The yawn was for your tiresome attempts with the gotcha....see abortion is murder.

You think abortion is wrong and I respect that and you should never have one. That is none of my business.

I have a different view and you should respect my view.

Reproduction can not be tied up in your neat little black and white, right and wrong package. It is a a dangerous, bloody, messy, painful, fraught, sometimes joyful and sometimes sorrowful and intensely personal experience and the decisions surrounding it are private.

I hope you don't think different viewpoints should always be considered and valued. All kinds of people in our country try to justify all kinds of behaviors and actions. Doesn't mean they're all acceptable. That's why society has laws; and like it ir not, many of them are based on religious laws and beliefs.

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Anonymous wrote:When will people understand that it isn't about abortion. It is about autonomy. It is about the right of a woman to control her body. Banning abortions is not about abortion, it is about controlling women. I wouldn't get one ever, if my daughter wanted one, I would take her but I would be sad about it. How I feel about abortion or how I feel about anything shouldn't take precedence over another human being's autonomy in a civilized society.

Do you not get the pro-life position at all? They think it’s murder. You can’t tell someone who believes abortion is murder that they should be pro-choice about it. Your focus should be on explaining your views as to why you believe it’s not murder

Whether it is murder is irrelevant. The issue is whether a woman has bodily autonomy in the US period.

PP’s point is that you will not win over / convert many pro-life (anti-abortion) person with the autonomy argument. They consider the fetus a person and among, if not the, most vulnerable of all humans. They believe that having consensual sex (as opposed to rape) means that the adults involved are open to the possibility of creating a new life whether they use birth control or not. If they aren’t open to that then they should abstain. That’s the mindset.

They should recognize that their beliefs are based on their religion and they shouldn’t force their religion on others.

Believe whatever you want in your own home but don’t force it on others.

I’m an atheistic who shares this mindset. And why shouldn’t I “force” this belief on you?
Casey Anthony obviously believed she was within her right to kill her toddler. Is it wrong for us to force our moral objection to this on her?
The point is you need to focus your argument on explaining why it’s not murder. Not simply telling people who feel otherwise that committing murder should be a choice.

Because it’s not legally or morally murder. You aren’t a person until you are born.

So you are okay for a mother to choose to smoke crack, pot, cigs while pregnant? They can drink heavily too because they are not Carrying by a person?

Love the logic from the pro murder crowd!

I'm pro-choice, but this is an excellent point. If the fetus isn't a person, why worry about any of that?

How far down the line are we going to judge and penalize bad parenting?

No one should be forced to carry a pregnancy, give birth, or become a parent against their will. Period.

You're (deliberately?) missing the point. If the fetus isn't a human (according to you), then a pregnant woman is not a parent. So why do you consider it "bad parenting" if a pregnant woman eats poorly and/or uses drugs and alcohol while pregnant?

You are trying way too hard with this and it is tiresome.

Truth can hurt.

Yawn. Most pregnancies are wanted and the pregnant women tries to have a safe pregnancy and a healthy baby. Some are unwanted and are terminated for many different reasons. None of them are any of your business if they are not yours or of you are not invited in.

63 million should be worth more than a yawn.

The yawn was for your tiresome attempts with the gotcha....see abortion is murder.

You think abortion is wrong and I respect that and you should never have one. That is none of my business.

I have a different view and you should respect my view.

Reproduction can not be tied up in your neat little black and white, right and wrong package. It is a a dangerous, bloody, messy, painful, fraught, sometimes joyful and sometimes sorrowful and intensely personal experience and the decisions surrounding it are private.

I hope you don't think different viewpoints should always be considered and valued. All kinds of people in our country try to justify all kinds of behaviors and actions. Doesn't mean they're all acceptable. That's why society has laws; and like it ir not, many of them are based on religious laws and beliefs.

Don't think they always should be valued. One hundred percent think women's reproductive rights are a critical area where they should be and we're for almost 50 years. 50 years. These rights will not be stripped from our daughters.

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Anonymous wrote:The pro-murder crowd is never going to see the light.

No one is forcing you to have sex in a majority of pregnancies. Can’t handle the result of sex, stop having it murderers!

Get it through your heads:
The circumstances surrounding the pregnancy ARE NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
You have ZERO business in anyone's personal affairs. NONE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The pro-murder crowd is never going to see the light.

No one is forcing you to have sex in a majority of pregnancies. Can’t handle the result of sex, stop having it murderers!

What are you, the bedroom police? Other peoples' sex is none of your business. GTFOH you creepy sicko.

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Anonymous wrote:When will people understand that it isn't about abortion. It is about autonomy. It is about the right of a woman to control her body. Banning abortions is not about abortion, it is about controlling women. I wouldn't get one ever, if my daughter wanted one, I would take her but I would be sad about it. How I feel about abortion or how I feel about anything shouldn't take precedence over another human being's autonomy in a civilized society.

Do you not get the pro-life position at all? They think it’s murder. You can’t tell someone who believes abortion is murder that they should be pro-choice about it. Your focus should be on explaining your views as to why you believe it’s not murder

Whether it is murder is irrelevant. The issue is whether a woman has bodily autonomy in the US period.

PP’s point is that you will not win over / convert many pro-life (anti-abortion) person with the autonomy argument. They consider the fetus a person and among, if not the, most vulnerable of all humans. They believe that having consensual sex (as opposed to rape) means that the adults involved are open to the possibility of creating a new life whether they use birth control or not. If they aren’t open to that then they should abstain. That’s the mindset.

They should recognize that their beliefs are based on their religion and they shouldn’t force their religion on others.

Believe whatever you want in your own home but don’t force it on others.

I’m an atheistic who shares this mindset. And why shouldn’t I “force” this belief on you?
Casey Anthony obviously believed she was within her right to kill her toddler. Is it wrong for us to force our moral objection to this on her?
The point is you need to focus your argument on explaining why it’s not murder. Not simply telling people who feel otherwise that committing murder should be a choice.

Because it’s not legally or morally murder. You aren’t a person until you are born.

So you are okay for a mother to choose to smoke crack, pot, cigs while pregnant? They can drink heavily too because they are not Carrying by a person?

Love the logic from the pro murder crowd!

I'm pro-choice, but this is an excellent point. If the fetus isn't a person, why worry about any of that?

How far down the line are we going to judge and penalize bad parenting?

No one should be forced to carry a pregnancy, give birth, or become a parent against their will. Period.

You're (deliberately?) missing the point. If the fetus isn't a human (according to you), then a pregnant woman is not a parent. So why do you consider it "bad parenting" if a pregnant woman eats poorly and/or uses drugs and alcohol while pregnant?

You are trying way too hard with this and it is tiresome.

Truth can hurt.

Yawn. Most pregnancies are wanted and the pregnant women tries to have a safe pregnancy and a healthy baby. Some are unwanted and are terminated for many different reasons. None of them are any of your business if they are not yours or of you are not invited in.

63 million should be worth more than a yawn.

The yawn was for your tiresome attempts with the gotcha....see abortion is murder.

You think abortion is wrong and I respect that and you should never have one. That is none of my business.

I have a different view and you should respect my view.

Reproduction can not be tied up in your neat little black and white, right and wrong package. It is a a dangerous, bloody, messy, painful, fraught, sometimes joyful and sometimes sorrowful and intensely personal experience and the decisions surrounding it are private.

I hope you don't think different viewpoints should always be considered and valued. All kinds of people in our country try to justify all kinds of behaviors and actions. Doesn't mean they're all acceptable. That's why society has laws; and like it ir not, many of them are based on religious laws and beliefs.

Don't think they always should be valued. One hundred percent think women's reproductive rights are a critical area where they should be and we're for almost 50 years. 50 years. These rights will not be stripped from our daughters.

It's not just reproductive rights, although that terminology makes it sound more palatable. It's abortion on request or demand. Those in favor of access to abortions for any reason should consider limiting them to medical reasons, incest and rape. It would make it far more reasonable.

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Anonymous wrote:The pro-murder crowd is never going to see the light.

No one is forcing you to have sex in a majority of pregnancies. Can’t handle the result of sex, stop having it murderers!

What are you, the bedroom police? Other peoples' sex is none of your business. GTFOH you creepy sicko.

No one is in your bedroom or a sicko. However if you become a murderer, it becomes our business.

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Anonymous wrote:When will people understand that it isn't about abortion. It is about autonomy. It is about the right of a woman to control her body. Banning abortions is not about abortion, it is about controlling women. I wouldn't get one ever, if my daughter wanted one, I would take her but I would be sad about it. How I feel about abortion or how I feel about anything shouldn't take precedence over another human being's autonomy in a civilized society.

Do you not get the pro-life position at all? They think it’s murder. You can’t tell someone who believes abortion is murder that they should be pro-choice about it. Your focus should be on explaining your views as to why you believe it’s not murder

Whether it is murder is irrelevant. The issue is whether a woman has bodily autonomy in the US period.

PP’s point is that you will not win over / convert many pro-life (anti-abortion) person with the autonomy argument. They consider the fetus a person and among, if not the, most vulnerable of all humans. They believe that having consensual sex (as opposed to rape) means that the adults involved are open to the possibility of creating a new life whether they use birth control or not. If they aren’t open to that then they should abstain. That’s the mindset.

They should recognize that their beliefs are based on their religion and they shouldn’t force their religion on others.

Believe whatever you want in your own home but don’t force it on others.

I’m an atheistic who shares this mindset. And why shouldn’t I “force” this belief on you?
Casey Anthony obviously believed she was within her right to kill her toddler. Is it wrong for us to force our moral objection to this on her?
The point is you need to focus your argument on explaining why it’s not murder. Not simply telling people who feel otherwise that committing murder should be a choice.

Because it’s not legally or morally murder. You aren’t a person until you are born.

So you are okay for a mother to choose to smoke crack, pot, cigs while pregnant? They can drink heavily too because they are not Carrying by a person?

Love the logic from the pro murder crowd!

I'm pro-choice, but this is an excellent point. If the fetus isn't a person, why worry about any of that?

How far down the line are we going to judge and penalize bad parenting?

No one should be forced to carry a pregnancy, give birth, or become a parent against their will. Period.

You're (deliberately?) missing the point. If the fetus isn't a human (according to you), then a pregnant woman is not a parent. So why do you consider it "bad parenting" if a pregnant woman eats poorly and/or uses drugs and alcohol while pregnant?

You are trying way too hard with this and it is tiresome.

Truth can hurt.

Yawn. Most pregnancies are wanted and the pregnant women tries to have a safe pregnancy and a healthy baby. Some are unwanted and are terminated for many different reasons. None of them are any of your business if they are not yours or of you are not invited in.

63 million should be worth more than a yawn.

63 women who had control of their own body, their own future, their own life.

Disgusting that you want to crush the personal liberties of each and every one of those women. To oppress them. Take away their basic rights.

Not 63 women. 63 MIllion

Yes. A typo. Thank you.

63 million women who have a better life today because they had the personal liberty to make decisions about their bodies and their lives.

Where are people getting this number that’s being thrown around? The CDC number for 2021 was around 600,000 abortions. That’s only 1/100 of 63 million, so 63 million sounds too high even for all the years since Roe. Is it a worldwide estimate?

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Anonymous wrote:When will people understand that it isn't about abortion. It is about autonomy. It is about the right of a woman to control her body. Banning abortions is not about abortion, it is about controlling women. I wouldn't get one ever, if my daughter wanted one, I would take her but I would be sad about it. How I feel about abortion or how I feel about anything shouldn't take precedence over another human being's autonomy in a civilized society.

Do you not get the pro-life position at all? They think it’s murder. You can’t tell someone who believes abortion is murder that they should be pro-choice about it. Your focus should be on explaining your views as to why you believe it’s not murder

Whether it is murder is irrelevant. The issue is whether a woman has bodily autonomy in the US period.

PP’s point is that you will not win over / convert many pro-life (anti-abortion) person with the autonomy argument. They consider the fetus a person and among, if not the, most vulnerable of all humans. They believe that having consensual sex (as opposed to rape) means that the adults involved are open to the possibility of creating a new life whether they use birth control or not. If they aren’t open to that then they should abstain. That’s the mindset.

They should recognize that their beliefs are based on their religion and they shouldn’t force their religion on others.

Believe whatever you want in your own home but don’t force it on others.

I’m an atheistic who shares this mindset. And why shouldn’t I “force” this belief on you?
Casey Anthony obviously believed she was within her right to kill her toddler. Is it wrong for us to force our moral objection to this on her?
The point is you need to focus your argument on explaining why it’s not murder. Not simply telling people who feel otherwise that committing murder should be a choice.

Because it’s not legally or morally murder. You aren’t a person until you are born.

So you are okay for a mother to choose to smoke crack, pot, cigs while pregnant? They can drink heavily too because they are not Carrying by a person?

Love the logic from the pro murder crowd!

You sound like you know nothing about being pregnant and trying to have a healthy safe pregnancy. If you don't want a child you may choose to end the pregnancy.....but for most pregnant women that are trying not have a successful outcome you are not doing any of those things.

But the PP said it is not a person until born. Her body her choice right?

Proud pro-life mommy to three.

Your grasping at straws. Have 3 more if you want...or 6....or 10...... that's fantastic and none of my business. Your views on my reproductive journey are not welcome or of any consideration as it should be.

I’m against murder and since you are pro-murder, then my views are valid.

What are you, 6 years old? Your views on my reproductive journey have no validity or effect. Even if you stamp your feet

Is this Catholic school summer credit? Pro-life trolling?

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Anonymous wrote:When will people understand that it isn't about abortion. It is about autonomy. It is about the right of a woman to control her body. Banning abortions is not about abortion, it is about controlling women. I wouldn't get one ever, if my daughter wanted one, I would take her but I would be sad about it. How I feel about abortion or how I feel about anything shouldn't take precedence over another human being's autonomy in a civilized society.

Do you not get the pro-life position at all? They think it’s murder. You can’t tell someone who believes abortion is murder that they should be pro-choice about it. Your focus should be on explaining your views as to why you believe it’s not murder

Whether it is murder is irrelevant. The issue is whether a woman has bodily autonomy in the US period.

PP’s point is that you will not win over / convert many pro-life (anti-abortion) person with the autonomy argument. They consider the fetus a person and among, if not the, most vulnerable of all humans. They believe that having consensual sex (as opposed to rape) means that the adults involved are open to the possibility of creating a new life whether they use birth control or not. If they aren’t open to that then they should abstain. That’s the mindset.

They should recognize that their beliefs are based on their religion and they shouldn’t force their religion on others.

Believe whatever you want in your own home but don’t force it on others.

I’m an atheistic who shares this mindset. And why shouldn’t I “force” this belief on you?
Casey Anthony obviously believed she was within her right to kill her toddler. Is it wrong for us to force our moral objection to this on her?
The point is you need to focus your argument on explaining why it’s not murder. Not simply telling people who feel otherwise that committing murder should be a choice.

Because it’s not legally or morally murder. You aren’t a person until you are born.

So you are okay for a mother to choose to smoke crack, pot, cigs while pregnant? They can drink heavily too because they are not Carrying by a person?

Love the logic from the pro murder crowd!

Is it ok to feed your kid crap food or expose them to secondhand smoke?

Parents have made bad choices since the beginning of time. Are you going to judge and penalize them next?

No one should be forced to carry a pregnancy, give birth, or become a parent against their will.

DP. Right, but according to your "logic," a fetus is *not* a child, nor are you a parent until that fetus is born. Right? So why does it matter what we put into our bodies when pregnant? We'll wait.

The clear difference is that a fetus is a potential person. Any harm done by substances ingested by a pregnant woman are harms that become apparent *after birth* and affect the now-child going forward. Even when women are arrested for drug use during pregnancy, the arrest happens after a child is born with drugs in its system. Again, for ongoing harm of what is now a child and no longer a potential child. Until the birth m, you can’t prove legal harm. (I believe there have been some cases where a fetus died in utero or was stillborn, but those rest on medically questionable foundations; fetuses die for many natural reasons and drug use is less likely to be a cause than you might think.)