What does it mean when someone scores a 160 on the Naglieri?

[Anonymous]

My 9th grade daughter took the Naglieri in school this year, we just received her scores and she received a 160 which is the highest score one can get. This is NOT meant to be a humble brag or boastful post, but I have to say I am floored. I've always known she is very smart, but I don't see her as being a genius. Yet, a 160 does seem rather extraordinary to me. What exactly does it say about a person who receives a score like this? I'm wondering if I should be doing something to develop her abilities in STEM topics. Her extracurriculars are all arts related, she has never done anything like programming, robotics, etc. I guess I'm wondering where do we go from here? Or is there any reason to go anywhere at all?

[Anonymous]

means there’s some natural ability there, but it has to be viewed in the context of grades and test scores.

[Anonymous]

It’s a nonverbal test. And that domain is the least important when it comes to school. That being said it’s still intelligence and scoring so high would certainly mean your dd has done gifts. It may help her in art. I score really high on the raven matrices and have really good spatial awareness.

[Anonymous]

Ok, to put it bluntly, does it mean my kid's a genius? At least when it comes to the specific type of intelligence that this tests for? I know that's an obnoxious question, but I am somewhat flabbergasted by what a score like this means. And from what I understand, it tests the set of skills that are associated with engineering/programming/STEM type areas. My daughter has never really had a chance to explore this - outside of being in the advanced math and science classes at school, and I'm wondering if I would be doing a disservice to not seek out opportunities for her in these areas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:means there’s some natural ability there, but it has to be viewed in the context of grades and test scores.

Wouldn't a 160 imply more than just "some" natural ability? And I'm sorry if that comes across as snarky, I don't mean for it to. But I would assume it would indicate a tremendous natural ability. But is it possible that someone could get a perfect score and not be near genius level, whatever the heck genius level actually is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:means there’s some natural ability there, but it has to be viewed in the context of grades and test scores.

Wouldn't a 160 imply more than just "some" natural ability? And I'm sorry if that comes across as snarky, I don't mean for it to. But I would assume it would indicate a tremendous natural ability. But is it possible that someone could get a perfect score and not be near genius level, whatever the heck genius level actually is.

Not only is it possible, but it’s highly likely.

[Anonymous]

I thought the point of the Naglieri was to detect giftedness in young children who may not speak English as a first language. I have no idea how it could be interpreted for a 9th grader who has likely encountered similar types of problems.

The issue isn't whether a 160 is a remarkable score. It's whether a test that measures one tiny facet of intelligence means anything when looking at intelligence as a whole. Your DD is a "genius" in the very narrow range of problems asked in the Naglieri, I guess, but would not necessarily test as gifted in any other intelligence tests.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous[b wrote:]I thought the point of the Naglieri was to detect giftedness in young children who may not speak English as a first language[/b]. I have no idea how it could be interpreted for a 9th grader who has likely encountered similar types of problems.

The issue isn't whether a 160 is a remarkable score. It's whether a test that measures one tiny facet of intelligence means anything when looking at intelligence as a whole. Your DD is a "genius" in the very narrow range of problems asked in the Naglieri, I guess, but would not necessarily test as gifted in any other intelligence tests.

The Naglieri is meant to be free of bias, and useful as something that can pick up intelligence for people who have language barriers. The test is not only used for young children, and the test is age normed, so receiving a score in the 99th percentile means that someone did better than 99 percent of other test takers of the same age.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ok, to put it bluntly, does it mean my kid's a genius? At least when it comes to the specific type of intelligence that this tests for? I know that's an obnoxious question, but I am somewhat flabbergasted by what a score like this means. And from what I understand, it tests the set of skills that are associated with engineering/programming/STEM type areas. My daughter has never really had a chance to explore this - outside of being in the advanced math and science classes at school, and I'm wondering if I would be doing a disservice to not seek out opportunities for her in these areas.

Where did you read the bolded?

[Anonymous]

I thought it was a test to catch ESOL kids who are gifted with a language barrier.

My kids scored very high on the Cogat. They are far from geniuses. They do love art and STEM. Both my kids are excellent chess players. I don’t think it really means anything.

I’m sure your child is very smart. Make sure she takes a lot of AP classes and expose her to some higher level extracurricular activities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous[b wrote:]I thought it was a test to catch ESOL kids who are gifted with a language barrier.[/b]

My kids scored very high on the Cogat. They are far from geniuses. They do love art and STEM. Both my kids are excellent chess players. I don’t think it really means anything.

I’m sure your child is very smart. Make sure she takes a lot of AP classes and expose her to some higher level extracurricular activities.

It's given to everyone, not just esol kids, but yes that is why schools like to use it, because it can be used to identify kids who don't speak English.

[Anonymous]

The NNAT is a screener. It’s not an IQ test. And even a real deal IQ test can’t show genius.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My 9th grade daughter took the Naglieri in school this year, we just received her scores and she received a 160 which is the highest score one can get. This is NOT meant to be a humble brag or boastful post, but I have to say I am floored. I've always known she is very smart, but I don't see her as being a genius. Yet, a 160 does seem rather extraordinary to me. What exactly does it say about a person who receives a score like this? I'm wondering if I should be doing something to develop her abilities in STEM topics. Her extracurriculars are all arts related, she has never done anything like programming, robotics, etc. I guess I'm wondering where do we go from here? Or is there any reason to go anywhere at all?

that is definitely an amazing score and she should be proud as she has awesome reasoning skills. I would recommend to get her tested for WISC to get the actual IQ.
who knows she might even qualified to join Prometheus club or at least triple nine club. I know for Prometheus club, they only take MAT scores lately so that one would be
bit more challenging.

[Anonymous]

I'm curious, why did your 9th grader take the test? I'm only familiar with it as it's used in the elementary years. Was it a requirement for a special program or a scholarship or something?

This is absolutely not meant to be snarky. I am genuinely curious, and congrats to your DD for her excellent score.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My 9th grade daughter took the Naglieri in school this year, we just received her scores and she received a 160 which is the highest score one can get. This is NOT meant to be a humble brag or boastful post, but I have to say I am floored. I've always known she is very smart, but I don't see her as being a genius. Yet, a 160 does seem rather extraordinary to me. What exactly does it say about a person who receives a score like this? I'm wondering if I should be doing something to develop her abilities in STEM topics. Her extracurriculars are all arts related, she has never done anything like programming, robotics, etc. I guess I'm wondering where do we go from here? Or is there any reason to go anywhere at all?

that is definitely an amazing score and she should be proud as she has awesome reasoning skills. I would recommend to get her tested for WISC to get the actual IQ.
who knows she might even qualified to join Prometheus club or at least triple nine club. I know for Prometheus club, they only take MAT scores lately so that one would be
bit more challenging.

What are the Prometheus and Triple 9 Clubs?