ICE Shooting in Minneapolis

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ANYONE can put on some jackets saying ICE and attempt to carjack people.
Stay out of the road if you don't want to be hit by a scared person trying to avoid being carjacked.

You are not allowed to block ICE vehicles or run away if ICE is detaining you. U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers are federal police with nationwide jurisdiction, not contractors or security.
If ICE tells you to stop or that you are under arrest for interfering, you must comply. Refusing to obey lawful orders can legally result in detention, arrest, and the use of reasonable force.
Federal law is clear: 8 U.S. Code § 1357 gives ICE arrest and detention authority
18 U.S. Code § 111 makes it a crime to resist, obstruct, or impede federal officers
18 U.S. Code § 3052 grants federal arrest authority
You may observe or record in public. You may not block vehicles, interfere, ignore commands, or flee. ICE are real police, and federal law applies in every state.

How does one know that it is ICE vs random carjackers??

This year,.criminals have even pretended to be ICE to rob others or attempt rape (I can pull a couple articles if you need receipts). She waves them to go by her so she can go, then suddenly they are in her face with a gun. I'd be confused and terrified too.

She was specifically there to video the protests and block the ICE convoy with her vehicle. There are witness statements saying this on NBC and other news. Along with witnesses saying ICE/police were shouting at her to move her car prior to them getting out. I don’t think she should have been shot. But it’s also untrue that she was just a random woman getting milk and had no idea what was going on or who they were and thought it was a car jacking

What ICE convoy? Noem said that the ICE agents were just driving by to help dig someone's car out of the snow.

I thought she was blocking traffic as part of a general protest. Was there an actual scheduled "ICE convoy" announced in advance that was going to go down the street for some reason? That doesn't seem like good security to me.

No, there wasn't. Those particular ICE agents were on break, not an active mission and really had no reason to stop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can the shooter be held responsible by the state? I know federal authorities won’t do anything , but can Minnesota try him?

Yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ANYONE can put on some jackets saying ICE and attempt to carjack people.
Stay out of the road if you don't want to be hit by a scared person trying to avoid being carjacked.

You are not allowed to block ICE vehicles or run away if ICE is detaining you. U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers are federal police with nationwide jurisdiction, not contractors or security.
If ICE tells you to stop or that you are under arrest for interfering, you must comply. Refusing to obey lawful orders can legally result in detention, arrest, and the use of reasonable force.
Federal law is clear: 8 U.S. Code § 1357 gives ICE arrest and detention authority
18 U.S. Code § 111 makes it a crime to resist, obstruct, or impede federal officers
18 U.S. Code § 3052 grants federal arrest authority
You may observe or record in public. You may not block vehicles, interfere, ignore commands, or flee. ICE are real police, and federal law applies in every state.

How does one know that it is ICE vs random carjackers??

This year,.criminals have even pretended to be ICE to rob others or attempt rape (I can pull a couple articles if you need receipts). She waves them to go by her so she can go, then suddenly they are in her face with a gun. I'd be confused and terrified too.

She was specifically there to video the protests and block the ICE convoy with her vehicle. There are witness statements saying this on NBC and other news. Along with witnesses saying ICE/police were shouting at her to move her car prior to them getting out. I don’t think she should have been shot. But it’s also untrue that she was just a random woman getting milk and had no idea what was going on or who they were and thought it was a car jacking

What ICE convoy? Noem said that the ICE agents were just driving by to help dig someone's car out of the snow.

I thought she was blocking traffic as part of a general protest. Was there an actual scheduled "ICE convoy" announced in advance that was going to go down the street for some reason? That doesn't seem like good security to me.

I don’t know. That is literally what the woman NBC interviewed who lives in the house right in front of this said and called it. https://www.nbcnews.com/video/eyewitness-describes-ice-shooting-that-killed-woman-in-minneapolis-255580229643

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He needs to rot in jail for murder.
Anyone who helped him needs to as well.

There was a doctor there for god's sake and ICE would not let him through.

WTH is wrong with you MAGA the video is 100% clear! ICE can not murder US Citizens or anyone for that matter deadly force is unacceptable period.

When elections come around you are ok with this coming to your city so Trump can stay king?

God dammed stupidest cult ever!

He made the mistake of an inexperienced officer. Since that mistake resulted in homicide, he deserves 6 to 20 years with the exact amount of time depending on many factors.

ICE agents are only trained for 47 days, by the way. Because Trump is the 47th president.

[Anonymous]

These ICE officers hate the constitution and are the enemies of freedom. These are big government secret police.

No one wants to admit it, but Dems need to start discussing this in a frank matter. These officers are the enemy of liberty.

[Anonymous]

ICE agents are only trained for 47 days, by the way. Because Trump is the 47th president.

We are living in a pathetic cartoon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The claim that the shooter in Minnesota was injured and needed to be treated is undermined by a) he was seen walking away from the shooting, seemingly fine, and b) this is the same line the administration used to justify another DHS killing. Its a playbook.

Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O’Hara said he was told by the feds after the shooting that there no injuries to anyone other than the woman killed.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Watch the extended video here. Start around 1:40:53

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH4efIHP2lc&t=6100s

You can see the shooter walk away from the vehicle, pull up his mask, and leaves the scene.

Is that what law enforcement officers do after they shoot someone? He skedaddled before the actual police could arrive.

Good slow motion replays in that link.

Two points it shows: 1. There is clearly visible space between the car and both ice agents legs when the first shot is fired. And 2. The agents left the scene after the shooting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Watch the extended video here. Start around 1:40:53

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH4efIHP2lc&t=6100s

You can see the shooter walk away from the vehicle, pull up his mask, and leaves the scene.

Is that what law enforcement officers do after they shoot someone? He skedaddled before the actual police could arrive.

Good slow motion replays in that link.

Two points it shows: 1. There is clearly visible space between the car and both ice agents legs when the first shot is fired. And 2. The agents left the scene after the shooting.

Yeah. He looked very hale and healthy, swaggering away from the murder. Barely stumbled from being dinged by the vehicle.

And fled the scene. They must have made up the hospital story to give cover to the fact that he left.

[Anonymous]

That piece of human excrement.

He executed the mother of a little girl.

He orphaned a small child today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ANYONE can put on some jackets saying ICE and attempt to carjack people.
Stay out of the road if you don't want to be hit by a scared person trying to avoid being carjacked.

You are not allowed to block ICE vehicles or run away if ICE is detaining you. U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers are federal police with nationwide jurisdiction, not contractors or security.
If ICE tells you to stop or that you are under arrest for interfering, you must comply. Refusing to obey lawful orders can legally result in detention, arrest, and the use of reasonable force.
Federal law is clear: 8 U.S. Code § 1357 gives ICE arrest and detention authority
18 U.S. Code § 111 makes it a crime to resist, obstruct, or impede federal officers
18 U.S. Code § 3052 grants federal arrest authority
You may observe or record in public. You may not block vehicles, interfere, ignore commands, or flee. ICE are real police, and federal law applies in every state.

Most of this is wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Watch the extended video here. Start around 1:40:53

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH4efIHP2lc&t=6100s

You can see the shooter walk away from the vehicle, pull up his mask, and leaves the scene.

Is that what law enforcement officers do after they shoot someone? He skedaddled before the actual police could arrive.

Good slow motion replays in that link.

Two points it shows: 1. There is clearly visible space between the car and both ice agents legs when the first shot is fired. And 2. The agents left the scene after the shooting.

No one with at least half a brain is questioning the obvious unnecessary use of deadly force in this circumstance. At least this is the case in law enforcement circles. How politicians spin it is a different story.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

You are not allowed to block ICE vehicles

There’s a longer video that shows that multiple other ICE vehicles were able to get by her without attempting to detain her or shooting her in the face. She was not blocking ICE vehicles when the ICE agents jumped out of that truck.

PP again adding the video that shows a previous ICE vehicle easily passing by her car. She was not blocking the road.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:CNN is reporting that a physician was on the scene of the shooting. The physician tried to assist the wounded woman. An ICE agent yelled at the physician to get away from the woman or he would shoot him too. The physician had no choice but to step back.

The woman bled out and died on the cold Minnesota ground.

There is an actual video of this refusal. It's 2nd degree murder for the guy who shot her and for the agents that blocked access for medical professionals to assist.

[Anonymous]

Untrained.

Out of control.

Unchecked.

Poor judgment.

No identificaton - no name and badge number.

Masked.

The stenciled "POLICE" on their jacket means nothing.

Abolish ICE.