Looks like a new Gaza war has started

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Anonymous wrote:It's so interesting that CNN and Co. keep interviewing Israeli military, politicians, academics, regular folk etc. but there hasn't been a single voice to articulate a Palestinian perspective. like not one. This is not journalism. Say what you want about Al Jazeera, they obviously have a pro Palestinian slant but at least they always invite an Israeli voice along with a Palestinian perspective.

#NotJournalism.

I can’t imagine any good Palestinian person volunteering to go on cnn to defend the Hamas attack or engage in whataboutism to justify an act of terror. And cnn obviously won’t bring Hamas sympathizers on tv. And why should they?

This is indefensible.

I think you might want to distinguish the past human rights abuses, land grab, etc. from what Hamas just did. They kidnapped women and children. They slaughtered a German tourist. Separate the past from the present and get on the right side of history.

The past IS the present. The past is happening. It never stopped. Israel doesn't get to say "nothing we did up until this point matters."

Disagree.

Your line of thinking seemingly absolves Bin Laden and the 9/11 terrorists by placing shared responsibility (at best) on the US for prior action in the Middle East. And that’s obviously ridiculous, right?

Here’s what is going to happen: all the Free Palestine people in the US, Europe, and other civilized nations will realize the atrocities committed by Hamas against women and children simply can’t be justified. They’ll quietly retreat. The only people voicing support for Hamas and Palestine will be terrorists: Hezbollah, Taliban, and religious extremists who clearly aren’t defending human rights.

I am sorry to be the one to tell you but the world doesn't feel nearly as much outrage about this as you think.

Just wait until more videos come out. Have you seen the kidnapped civilians? The kids? The young girls?

People will be outraged.

They ARE seeing them, and they're NOT outraged. Every comment section I see under one of these videos is 90% pro-Hamas/anti-Israel.

Are they Arabs? Muslims?

Figures. It’s a numbers game and they are everywhere.

But they don’t wield power…which is why they resort to terror.

Well it's online so I don't know. But all the white people I know are anti-Israel.

Only the ones who watch msnbc

No, pretty much all of them. My peer group is highly educated, very progressive and very self-loathing, and completely buy into the notion that Israel is a white, colonialist, super rich apartheid country.

Your peers are being kind, based on the comments I am reading on the Jerusalem Post I’d call the Israeli Jews savages.

The ones being kidnapped, tortured and murdered? Savages? How so?

They’re illegally occupying another country

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Anonymous wrote:It's so interesting that CNN and Co. keep interviewing Israeli military, politicians, academics, regular folk etc. but there hasn't been a single voice to articulate a Palestinian perspective. like not one. This is not journalism. Say what you want about Al Jazeera, they obviously have a pro Palestinian slant but at least they always invite an Israeli voice along with a Palestinian perspective.

#NotJournalism.

I can’t imagine any good Palestinian person volunteering to go on cnn to defend the Hamas attack or engage in whataboutism to justify an act of terror. And cnn obviously won’t bring Hamas sympathizers on tv. And why should they?

This is indefensible.

I think you might want to distinguish the past human rights abuses, land grab, etc. from what Hamas just did. They kidnapped women and children. They slaughtered a German tourist. Separate the past from the present and get on the right side of history.

The past IS the present. The past is happening. It never stopped. Israel doesn't get to say "nothing we did up until this point matters."

Oh please. This was not an attack on the military. It was an attack on civilians. Don’t be obtuse.

It's hard to say who is a civilian and who is a service member in Israel, isn't it?

DP. I mean, maybe, insofar as Israel has a big reserve component, as it’s necessary to defend itself against enemies who seek its annihilation.

I mean it's not like Israel tried hard to endear itself to its neighbors, KWIM?

I mean, Israel’s neighbors started wars to annihilate them.

I guess depopulating Palestinian villages wasn't necessarily the way to ease into the neighborhood.

I mean, trying to annihilate Jews doesn’t set a good tone.

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Anonymous wrote:It's so interesting that CNN and Co. keep interviewing Israeli military, politicians, academics, regular folk etc. but there hasn't been a single voice to articulate a Palestinian perspective. like not one. This is not journalism. Say what you want about Al Jazeera, they obviously have a pro Palestinian slant but at least they always invite an Israeli voice along with a Palestinian perspective.

#NotJournalism.

I can’t imagine any good Palestinian person volunteering to go on cnn to defend the Hamas attack or engage in whataboutism to justify an act of terror. And cnn obviously won’t bring Hamas sympathizers on tv. And why should they?

This is indefensible.

I think you might want to distinguish the past human rights abuses, land grab, etc. from what Hamas just did. They kidnapped women and children. They slaughtered a German tourist. Separate the past from the present and get on the right side of history.

The past IS the present. The past is happening. It never stopped. Israel doesn't get to say "nothing we did up until this point matters."

Disagree.

Your line of thinking seemingly absolves Bin Laden and the 9/11 terrorists by placing shared responsibility (at best) on the US for prior action in the Middle East. And that’s obviously ridiculous, right?

Here’s what is going to happen: all the Free Palestine people in the US, Europe, and other civilized nations will realize the atrocities committed by Hamas against women and children simply can’t be justified. They’ll quietly retreat. The only people voicing support for Hamas and Palestine will be terrorists: Hezbollah, Taliban, and religious extremists who clearly aren’t defending human rights.

I am sorry to be the one to tell you but the world doesn't feel nearly as much outrage about this as you think.

Just wait until more videos come out. Have you seen the kidnapped civilians? The kids? The young girls?

People will be outraged.

They ARE seeing them, and they're NOT outraged. Every comment section I see under one of these videos is 90% pro-Hamas/anti-Israel.

Are they Arabs? Muslims?

Figures. It’s a numbers game and they are everywhere.

But they don’t wield power…which is why they resort to terror.

Well it's online so I don't know. But all the white people I know are anti-Israel.

Only the ones who watch msnbc

No, pretty much all of them. My peer group is highly educated, very progressive and very self-loathing, and completely buy into the notion that Israel is a white, colonialist, super rich apartheid country.

Well, now Jewish children are being raped and young women's bodies are being dragged through the streets naked. Are your friends bursting with pride and joy?

What Jewish children are being raped? Post proof.

They’re not being raped. Israel and its supporters are all just shameless lying dogs

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Anonymous wrote:It's so interesting that CNN and Co. keep interviewing Israeli military, politicians, academics, regular folk etc. but there hasn't been a single voice to articulate a Palestinian perspective. like not one. This is not journalism. Say what you want about Al Jazeera, they obviously have a pro Palestinian slant but at least they always invite an Israeli voice along with a Palestinian perspective.

#NotJournalism.

I can’t imagine any good Palestinian person volunteering to go on cnn to defend the Hamas attack or engage in whataboutism to justify an act of terror. And cnn obviously won’t bring Hamas sympathizers on tv. And why should they?

This is indefensible.

I think you might want to distinguish the past human rights abuses, land grab, etc. from what Hamas just did. They kidnapped women and children. They slaughtered a German tourist. Separate the past from the present and get on the right side of history.

The past IS the present. The past is happening. It never stopped. Israel doesn't get to say "nothing we did up until this point matters."

Disagree.

Your line of thinking seemingly absolves Bin Laden and the 9/11 terrorists by placing shared responsibility (at best) on the US for prior action in the Middle East. And that’s obviously ridiculous, right?

Here’s what is going to happen: all the Free Palestine people in the US, Europe, and other civilized nations will realize the atrocities committed by Hamas against women and children simply can’t be justified. They’ll quietly retreat. The only people voicing support for Hamas and Palestine will be terrorists: Hezbollah, Taliban, and religious extremists who clearly aren’t defending human rights.

Unfortunately this will never happen. The more videos of horrifying crimes against Israeli civilian I see, the more comments I see justifying them. You're underestimating how much people really, really hate Jews.

Small correction: People love dead Jews. The living ones, not so much.

Oh what an anti semitic statement

You do realize that “People love dead Jews” is the title of a New York Times notable book written by a Jew explaining that yes, people seem to rally around dead Jews, but have no patience for the living ones. Perhaps instead of hurling insults, you should crack open more books.

Ah yes the suffering of the living Jews, shuttling back and forth between one rich country in the a Middle East and one in the West, between the suburbs of NY and Hollywood. Pining away at all those awards ceremonies where they are never honored. Rarely given the chance to write at a major newspaper or appear on TV. Discriminated by employers, profiled by the NSA and never supported by the US government.

How's your French? I can't find a version with English subtitles, but if you can follow it, this clip will explain everything you ever need to know about living Jews: https://www.facebook.com/jewbuzz/videos/cette-sc%C3%A8ne-culte-de-la-saison-3-de-family-business-%C3%A0-voir-jusquau-bout-%EF%B8%8F-jonath/1078796896193475/

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Anonymous wrote:It's so interesting that CNN and Co. keep interviewing Israeli military, politicians, academics, regular folk etc. but there hasn't been a single voice to articulate a Palestinian perspective. like not one. This is not journalism. Say what you want about Al Jazeera, they obviously have a pro Palestinian slant but at least they always invite an Israeli voice along with a Palestinian perspective.

#NotJournalism.

I can’t imagine any good Palestinian person volunteering to go on cnn to defend the Hamas attack or engage in whataboutism to justify an act of terror. And cnn obviously won’t bring Hamas sympathizers on tv. And why should they?

This is indefensible.

I think you might want to distinguish the past human rights abuses, land grab, etc. from what Hamas just did. They kidnapped women and children. They slaughtered a German tourist. Separate the past from the present and get on the right side of history.

The past IS the present. The past is happening. It never stopped. Israel doesn't get to say "nothing we did up until this point matters."

Disagree.

Your line of thinking seemingly absolves Bin Laden and the 9/11 terrorists by placing shared responsibility (at best) on the US for prior action in the Middle East. And that’s obviously ridiculous, right?

Here’s what is going to happen: all the Free Palestine people in the US, Europe, and other civilized nations will realize the atrocities committed by Hamas against women and children simply can’t be justified. They’ll quietly retreat. The only people voicing support for Hamas and Palestine will be terrorists: Hezbollah, Taliban, and religious extremists who clearly aren’t defending human rights.

Unfortunately this will never happen. The more videos of horrifying crimes against Israeli civilian I see, the more comments I see justifying them. You're underestimating how much people really, really hate Jews.

Small correction: People love dead Jews. The living ones, not so much.

Oh what an anti semitic statement

You do realize that “People love dead Jews” is the title of a New York Times notable book written by a Jew explaining that yes, people seem to rally around dead Jews, but have no patience for the living ones. Perhaps instead of hurling insults, you should crack open more books.

Ah yes the suffering of the living Jews, shuttling back and forth between one rich country in the a Middle East and one in the West, between the suburbs of NY and Hollywood. Pining away at all those awards ceremonies where they are never honored. Rarely given the chance to write at a major newspaper or appear on TV. Discriminated by employers, profiled by the NSA and never supported by the US government.

Wow, you're doing great at Jew-hate bingo! You forgot to add the stuff about banks though.

You people are the reason anti semitism exists. Stop pretending to be victims

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Anonymous wrote:It's so interesting that CNN and Co. keep interviewing Israeli military, politicians, academics, regular folk etc. but there hasn't been a single voice to articulate a Palestinian perspective. like not one. This is not journalism. Say what you want about Al Jazeera, they obviously have a pro Palestinian slant but at least they always invite an Israeli voice along with a Palestinian perspective.

#NotJournalism.

I can’t imagine any good Palestinian person volunteering to go on cnn to defend the Hamas attack or engage in whataboutism to justify an act of terror. And cnn obviously won’t bring Hamas sympathizers on tv. And why should they?

This is indefensible.

I think you might want to distinguish the past human rights abuses, land grab, etc. from what Hamas just did. They kidnapped women and children. They slaughtered a German tourist. Separate the past from the present and get on the right side of history.

The past IS the present. The past is happening. It never stopped. Israel doesn't get to say "nothing we did up until this point matters."

Disagree.

Your line of thinking seemingly absolves Bin Laden and the 9/11 terrorists by placing shared responsibility (at best) on the US for prior action in the Middle East. And that’s obviously ridiculous, right?

Here’s what is going to happen: all the Free Palestine people in the US, Europe, and other civilized nations will realize the atrocities committed by Hamas against women and children simply can’t be justified. They’ll quietly retreat. The only people voicing support for Hamas and Palestine will be terrorists: Hezbollah, Taliban, and religious extremists who clearly aren’t defending human rights.

I am sorry to be the one to tell you but the world doesn't feel nearly as much outrage about this as you think.

Just wait until more videos come out. Have you seen the kidnapped civilians? The kids? The young girls?

People will be outraged.

They ARE seeing them, and they're NOT outraged. Every comment section I see under one of these videos is 90% pro-Hamas/anti-Israel.

Are they Arabs? Muslims?

Figures. It’s a numbers game and they are everywhere.

But they don’t wield power…which is why they resort to terror.

Well it's online so I don't know. But all the white people I know are anti-Israel.

Only the ones who watch msnbc

No, pretty much all of them. My peer group is highly educated, very progressive and very self-loathing, and completely buy into the notion that Israel is a white, colonialist, super rich apartheid country.

Your peers are being kind, based on the comments I am reading on the Jerusalem Post I’d call the Israeli Jews savages.

The ones being kidnapped, tortured and murdered? Savages? How so?

They’re illegally occupying another country

So some Jew living in Haifa or Tel Aviv is occupying another country...and therefore a savage. Gotcha.

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Anonymous wrote:It's so interesting that CNN and Co. keep interviewing Israeli military, politicians, academics, regular folk etc. but there hasn't been a single voice to articulate a Palestinian perspective. like not one. This is not journalism. Say what you want about Al Jazeera, they obviously have a pro Palestinian slant but at least they always invite an Israeli voice along with a Palestinian perspective.

#NotJournalism.

I can’t imagine any good Palestinian person volunteering to go on cnn to defend the Hamas attack or engage in whataboutism to justify an act of terror. And cnn obviously won’t bring Hamas sympathizers on tv. And why should they?

This is indefensible.

I think you might want to distinguish the past human rights abuses, land grab, etc. from what Hamas just did. They kidnapped women and children. They slaughtered a German tourist. Separate the past from the present and get on the right side of history.

The past IS the present. The past is happening. It never stopped. Israel doesn't get to say "nothing we did up until this point matters."

Disagree.

Your line of thinking seemingly absolves Bin Laden and the 9/11 terrorists by placing shared responsibility (at best) on the US for prior action in the Middle East. And that’s obviously ridiculous, right?

Here’s what is going to happen: all the Free Palestine people in the US, Europe, and other civilized nations will realize the atrocities committed by Hamas against women and children simply can’t be justified. They’ll quietly retreat. The only people voicing support for Hamas and Palestine will be terrorists: Hezbollah, Taliban, and religious extremists who clearly aren’t defending human rights.

Unfortunately this will never happen. The more videos of horrifying crimes against Israeli civilian I see, the more comments I see justifying them. You're underestimating how much people really, really hate Jews.

Small correction: People love dead Jews. The living ones, not so much.

Oh what an anti semitic statement

You do realize that “People love dead Jews” is the title of a New York Times notable book written by a Jew explaining that yes, people seem to rally around dead Jews, but have no patience for the living ones. Perhaps instead of hurling insults, you should crack open more books.

Ah yes the suffering of the living Jews, shuttling back and forth between one rich country in the a Middle East and one in the West, between the suburbs of NY and Hollywood. Pining away at all those awards ceremonies where they are never honored. Rarely given the chance to write at a major newspaper or appear on TV. Discriminated by employers, profiled by the NSA and never supported by the US government.

Wow, you're doing great at Jew-hate bingo! You forgot to add the stuff about banks though.

Please stop playing the Jewish victim card. This is about the atrocities committed by Israel and its leaders for the last four decades. This has nothing to do with Jews but if you, as a God fearing Jew actually support the notion of colonization, apartheid, and depriving civilians if the basic essentials of life then you’re just an inhumane person, your religion is completely irrelevant.

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Anonymous wrote:It's so interesting that CNN and Co. keep interviewing Israeli military, politicians, academics, regular folk etc. but there hasn't been a single voice to articulate a Palestinian perspective. like not one. This is not journalism. Say what you want about Al Jazeera, they obviously have a pro Palestinian slant but at least they always invite an Israeli voice along with a Palestinian perspective.

#NotJournalism.

I can’t imagine any good Palestinian person volunteering to go on cnn to defend the Hamas attack or engage in whataboutism to justify an act of terror. And cnn obviously won’t bring Hamas sympathizers on tv. And why should they?

This is indefensible.

I think you might want to distinguish the past human rights abuses, land grab, etc. from what Hamas just did. They kidnapped women and children. They slaughtered a German tourist. Separate the past from the present and get on the right side of history.

The past IS the present. The past is happening. It never stopped. Israel doesn't get to say "nothing we did up until this point matters."

Disagree.

Your line of thinking seemingly absolves Bin Laden and the 9/11 terrorists by placing shared responsibility (at best) on the US for prior action in the Middle East. And that’s obviously ridiculous, right?

Here’s what is going to happen: all the Free Palestine people in the US, Europe, and other civilized nations will realize the atrocities committed by Hamas against women and children simply can’t be justified. They’ll quietly retreat. The only people voicing support for Hamas and Palestine will be terrorists: Hezbollah, Taliban, and religious extremists who clearly aren’t defending human rights.

I am sorry to be the one to tell you but the world doesn't feel nearly as much outrage about this as you think.

Just wait until more videos come out. Have you seen the kidnapped civilians? The kids? The young girls?

People will be outraged.

They ARE seeing them, and they're NOT outraged. Every comment section I see under one of these videos is 90% pro-Hamas/anti-Israel.

Are they Arabs? Muslims?

Figures. It’s a numbers game and they are everywhere.

But they don’t wield power…which is why they resort to terror.

Well it's online so I don't know. But all the white people I know are anti-Israel.

Only the ones who watch msnbc

No, pretty much all of them. My peer group is highly educated, very progressive and very self-loathing, and completely buy into the notion that Israel is a white, colonialist, super rich apartheid country.

Your peers are being kind, based on the comments I am reading on the Jerusalem Post I’d call the Israeli Jews savages.

The “savages” are the ones who kidnapped a little boy, and brought him into Gaza. Imagine the night he is having, and hang your head in shame:

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1710811394348552276?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1710811394348552276%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

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Anonymous wrote:It's so interesting that CNN and Co. keep interviewing Israeli military, politicians, academics, regular folk etc. but there hasn't been a single voice to articulate a Palestinian perspective. like not one. This is not journalism. Say what you want about Al Jazeera, they obviously have a pro Palestinian slant but at least they always invite an Israeli voice along with a Palestinian perspective.

#NotJournalism.

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I can’t imagine any good Palestinian person volunteering to go on cnn to defend the Hamas attack or engage in whataboutism to justify an act of terror. And cnn obviously won’t bring Hamas sympathizers on tv. And why should they?

This is indefensible.

I think you might want to distinguish the past human rights abuses, land grab, etc. from what Hamas just did. They kidnapped women and children. They slaughtered a German tourist. Separate the past from the present and get on the right side of history.

The past IS the present. The past is happening. It never stopped. Israel doesn't get to say "nothing we did up until this point matters."

Disagree.

Your line of thinking seemingly absolves Bin Laden and the 9/11 terrorists by placing shared responsibility (at best) on the US for prior action in the Middle East. And that’s obviously ridiculous, right?

Here’s what is going to happen: all the Free Palestine people in the US, Europe, and other civilized nations will realize the atrocities committed by Hamas against women and children simply can’t be justified. They’ll quietly retreat. The only people voicing support for Hamas and Palestine will be terrorists: Hezbollah, Taliban, and religious extremists who clearly aren’t defending human rights.

No the world sees Hamas as the jerking of a body that is being slowly chocked. It does not prevent us from seeing the big powerful hands that are doing the chocking.

You are saying Hamas is jerking off at the images of gang-rape of kids, duh. Anyone can see that. This is NOT Islam.

Where are the images of gang-rape of kids? You people keep saying it and I keep asking for proof and it's like you want to say this a thousand times so people will believe it. Without proof.

It’s all over social media and has been confirmed by Al Jazeera. I’m not posting child porn for you dude. I’m sure you have a lot on your computer already.

Link to Al Jazeera confirmation? Don't post child porn. Post a link to verified reports. You don't count.

Indeed, Jews Don't Count: https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/nov/21/david-baddiel-jews-dont-count-review-a-doc-so-shocking-it-sounds-like-a-siren

That's the title of another recent book about antisemitism.

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Anonymous wrote:It's so interesting that CNN and Co. keep interviewing Israeli military, politicians, academics, regular folk etc. but there hasn't been a single voice to articulate a Palestinian perspective. like not one. This is not journalism. Say what you want about Al Jazeera, they obviously have a pro Palestinian slant but at least they always invite an Israeli voice along with a Palestinian perspective.

#NotJournalism.

I can’t imagine any good Palestinian person volunteering to go on cnn to defend the Hamas attack or engage in whataboutism to justify an act of terror. And cnn obviously won’t bring Hamas sympathizers on tv. And why should they?

This is indefensible.

I think you might want to distinguish the past human rights abuses, land grab, etc. from what Hamas just did. They kidnapped women and children. They slaughtered a German tourist. Separate the past from the present and get on the right side of history.

The past IS the present. The past is happening. It never stopped. Israel doesn't get to say "nothing we did up until this point matters."

Disagree.

Your line of thinking seemingly absolves Bin Laden and the 9/11 terrorists by placing shared responsibility (at best) on the US for prior action in the Middle East. And that’s obviously ridiculous, right?

Here’s what is going to happen: all the Free Palestine people in the US, Europe, and other civilized nations will realize the atrocities committed by Hamas against women and children simply can’t be justified. They’ll quietly retreat. The only people voicing support for Hamas and Palestine will be terrorists: Hezbollah, Taliban, and religious extremists who clearly aren’t defending human rights.

Unfortunately this will never happen. The more videos of horrifying crimes against Israeli civilian I see, the more comments I see justifying them. You're underestimating how much people really, really hate Jews.

Small correction: People love dead Jews. The living ones, not so much.

Oh what an anti semitic statement

You do realize that “People love dead Jews” is the title of a New York Times notable book written by a Jew explaining that yes, people seem to rally around dead Jews, but have no patience for the living ones. Perhaps instead of hurling insults, you should crack open more books.

Ah yes the suffering of the living Jews, shuttling back and forth between one rich country in the a Middle East and one in the West, between the suburbs of NY and Hollywood. Pining away at all those awards ceremonies where they are never honored. Rarely given the chance to write at a major newspaper or appear on TV. Discriminated by employers, profiled by the NSA and never supported by the US government.

Wow, you're doing great at Jew-hate bingo! You forgot to add the stuff about banks though.

Please stop playing the Jewish victim card. This is about the atrocities committed by Israel and its leaders for the last four decades. This has nothing to do with Jews but if you, as a God fearing Jew actually support the notion of colonization, apartheid, and depriving civilians if the basic essentials of life then you’re just an inhumane person, your religion is completely irrelevant.

4 decades? They’ve been doing this since 1948. The people in Gaza are refugees from Israel that were forced from their homes by the IDF. They’ve been doing this for 70+ years

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Anonymous wrote:It's so interesting that CNN and Co. keep interviewing Israeli military, politicians, academics, regular folk etc. but there hasn't been a single voice to articulate a Palestinian perspective. like not one. This is not journalism. Say what you want about Al Jazeera, they obviously have a pro Palestinian slant but at least they always invite an Israeli voice along with a Palestinian perspective.

#NotJournalism.

I can’t imagine any good Palestinian person volunteering to go on cnn to defend the Hamas attack or engage in whataboutism to justify an act of terror. And cnn obviously won’t bring Hamas sympathizers on tv. And why should they?

This is indefensible.

I think you might want to distinguish the past human rights abuses, land grab, etc. from what Hamas just did. They kidnapped women and children. They slaughtered a German tourist. Separate the past from the present and get on the right side of history.

The past IS the present. The past is happening. It never stopped. Israel doesn't get to say "nothing we did up until this point matters."

Disagree.

Your line of thinking seemingly absolves Bin Laden and the 9/11 terrorists by placing shared responsibility (at best) on the US for prior action in the Middle East. And that’s obviously ridiculous, right?

Here’s what is going to happen: all the Free Palestine people in the US, Europe, and other civilized nations will realize the atrocities committed by Hamas against women and children simply can’t be justified. They’ll quietly retreat. The only people voicing support for Hamas and Palestine will be terrorists: Hezbollah, Taliban, and religious extremists who clearly aren’t defending human rights.

I am sorry to be the one to tell you but the world doesn't feel nearly as much outrage about this as you think.

Just wait until more videos come out. Have you seen the kidnapped civilians? The kids? The young girls?

People will be outraged.

They ARE seeing them, and they're NOT outraged. Every comment section I see under one of these videos is 90% pro-Hamas/anti-Israel.

Are they Arabs? Muslims?

Figures. It’s a numbers game and they are everywhere.

But they don’t wield power…which is why they resort to terror.

Well it's online so I don't know. But all the white people I know are anti-Israel.

Only the ones who watch msnbc

No, pretty much all of them. My peer group is highly educated, very progressive and very self-loathing, and completely buy into the notion that Israel is a white, colonialist, super rich apartheid country.

Your peers are being kind, based on the comments I am reading on the Jerusalem Post I’d call the Israeli Jews savages.

The ones being kidnapped, tortured and murdered? Savages? How so?

They’re illegally occupying another country

So some Jew living in Haifa or Tel Aviv is occupying another country...and therefore a savage. Gotcha.

Umm yeah? The Jew living in Haifa has parents and grandparents who played an active role in pushing out an entire ethnic group to make room for themselves because you know their ancestors roamed the land 7000 years ago so therefore they are God’s chosen people.

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Anonymous wrote:It's so interesting that CNN and Co. keep interviewing Israeli military, politicians, academics, regular folk etc. but there hasn't been a single voice to articulate a Palestinian perspective. like not one. This is not journalism. Say what you want about Al Jazeera, they obviously have a pro Palestinian slant but at least they always invite an Israeli voice along with a Palestinian perspective.

#NotJournalism.

I can’t imagine any good Palestinian person volunteering to go on cnn to defend the Hamas attack or engage in whataboutism to justify an act of terror. And cnn obviously won’t bring Hamas sympathizers on tv. And why should they?

This is indefensible.

I think you might want to distinguish the past human rights abuses, land grab, etc. from what Hamas just did. They kidnapped women and children. They slaughtered a German tourist. Separate the past from the present and get on the right side of history.

The past IS the present. The past is happening. It never stopped. Israel doesn't get to say "nothing we did up until this point matters."

Disagree.

Your line of thinking seemingly absolves Bin Laden and the 9/11 terrorists by placing shared responsibility (at best) on the US for prior action in the Middle East. And that’s obviously ridiculous, right?

Here’s what is going to happen: all the Free Palestine people in the US, Europe, and other civilized nations will realize the atrocities committed by Hamas against women and children simply can’t be justified. They’ll quietly retreat. The only people voicing support for Hamas and Palestine will be terrorists: Hezbollah, Taliban, and religious extremists who clearly aren’t defending human rights.

Unfortunately this will never happen. The more videos of horrifying crimes against Israeli civilian I see, the more comments I see justifying them. You're underestimating how much people really, really hate Jews.

Small correction: People love dead Jews. The living ones, not so much.

Oh what an anti semitic statement

You do realize that “People love dead Jews” is the title of a New York Times notable book written by a Jew explaining that yes, people seem to rally around dead Jews, but have no patience for the living ones. Perhaps instead of hurling insults, you should crack open more books.

Ah yes the suffering of the living Jews, shuttling back and forth between one rich country in the a Middle East and one in the West, between the suburbs of NY and Hollywood. Pining away at all those awards ceremonies where they are never honored. Rarely given the chance to write at a major newspaper or appear on TV. Discriminated by employers, profiled by the NSA and never supported by the US government.

Wow, you're doing great at Jew-hate bingo! You forgot to add the stuff about banks though.

You people are the reason anti semitism exists. Stop pretending to be victims

Oh stop. You'd hate Jews no matter what they do or say.

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Anonymous wrote:It's so interesting that CNN and Co. keep interviewing Israeli military, politicians, academics, regular folk etc. but there hasn't been a single voice to articulate a Palestinian perspective. like not one. This is not journalism. Say what you want about Al Jazeera, they obviously have a pro Palestinian slant but at least they always invite an Israeli voice along with a Palestinian perspective.

#NotJournalism.

I can’t imagine any good Palestinian person volunteering to go on cnn to defend the Hamas attack or engage in whataboutism to justify an act of terror. And cnn obviously won’t bring Hamas sympathizers on tv. And why should they?

This is indefensible.

I think you might want to distinguish the past human rights abuses, land grab, etc. from what Hamas just did. They kidnapped women and children. They slaughtered a German tourist. Separate the past from the present and get on the right side of history.

The past IS the present. The past is happening. It never stopped. Israel doesn't get to say "nothing we did up until this point matters."

Disagree.

Your line of thinking seemingly absolves Bin Laden and the 9/11 terrorists by placing shared responsibility (at best) on the US for prior action in the Middle East. And that’s obviously ridiculous, right?

Here’s what is going to happen: all the Free Palestine people in the US, Europe, and other civilized nations will realize the atrocities committed by Hamas against women and children simply can’t be justified. They’ll quietly retreat. The only people voicing support for Hamas and Palestine will be terrorists: Hezbollah, Taliban, and religious extremists who clearly aren’t defending human rights.

I am sorry to be the one to tell you but the world doesn't feel nearly as much outrage about this as you think.

Just wait until more videos come out. Have you seen the kidnapped civilians? The kids? The young girls?

People will be outraged.

They ARE seeing them, and they're NOT outraged. Every comment section I see under one of these videos is 90% pro-Hamas/anti-Israel.

Are they Arabs? Muslims?

Figures. It’s a numbers game and they are everywhere.

But they don’t wield power…which is why they resort to terror.

Well it's online so I don't know. But all the white people I know are anti-Israel.

Only the ones who watch msnbc

No, pretty much all of them. My peer group is highly educated, very progressive and very self-loathing, and completely buy into the notion that Israel is a white, colonialist, super rich apartheid country.

Your peers are being kind, based on the comments I am reading on the Jerusalem Post I’d call the Israeli Jews savages.

The “savages” are the ones who kidnapped a little boy, and brought him into Gaza. Imagine the night he is having, and hang your head in shame:

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1710811394348552276?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1710811394348552276%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

So he is alive and not blown up to pieces? I’d say they are significantly more civilized that those dropping a thousand ton bombs on maternity wards.

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Anonymous wrote:Leon Panetta on cnn just now said over-reliance on technology intelligence allowed Hamas to avoid detection. The intelligence system in Israel failed, and human intelligence is needed.

No question that Israel will take action, particularly given the hostages taken. This will be a prolonged war.

Re: US role - our special relationship will likely prompt intelligence and military support. It will be a complicated effort.

Re: history - going back to 1948, we’ve had 7 decades of war and failed efforts for peace. This last year brought increased tension. Hamas took a dramatic step nobody saw coming. It’s a wake up call to hamas as well as Iran, hezbollah, etc.

Leon Panetta? He hasn't been in the government in 10 years. And gee whiz, I wonder why Israel doesn't just send a bunch of agents into Gaza. I can't imagine why that sort of thing would be difficult. And yeah, it's pretty obvious that this was an intelligence failure.

If Panetta actually used the term special relationship then he ought to hang it up. Despite cooperation on defense and intelligence, there's only one of those and it's not with Israel.

Yes, you are right, PP.

You obviously know more than Leon Panetta. Thank goodness we have you to weigh in.

Leon Panetta is a yes man, dumbass.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion about Panetta.

But it’s hilarious that a random guy thinks he knows more about anything related to Israel than Leon given his decades of service and access to intel during complicated periods in history. I mean, as if.

Your over-abundance of confidence is cute.

First, I'm a woman. So your assumptions are, what is it you said? Oh, cute.

Second, the bolded is the point - Panetta hasn't been in service for 10 years and his access to intel from a decade or more ago means that he had access to it a decade ago. Not today. His historical opinion is interesting and valuable, but the fact that he's on CNN and not at work today means he doesn't have much, if any, insight into the current inner workings of Mossad or our own intelligence agencies.

…and the collective wisdom of randos on dcum carries more weight than Leon’s insight developed over decades.

Got it.

I mean, I always knew type A overachievers had an inflated sense of self-worth, but this is next-level hilarity.

Yes, I realize Leon isn’t currently sitting in the war room, but I still feel like the man knows far more about the complexity of Israel and Hamas than the average house frau…even though he’s retired.

Never change, Dcumlandia!

Think of it this way: behind every foreign policy blunder in the Middle East in the last 20 years - Iraq, Libya, Syria - were men with just as much experience , and they still focked it up. So what’s with this worship of panetta and co?

Nobody is worshipping Panetta.

I guess I just realize there’s no silver bullet when it comes to Israel and Palestinians, so I’m not surprised that the US hasn’t neatly resolved it. I believe we have experts balancing pros and cons; they calculate risks and make the best/least bad decision. None of this is easy.

I think it’s really weird for nobodies on dcum to think they know better than experts with all the intel as well as the burden of making decisions that make history.

The silver bullet is holding israel to account for grave violations of human rights. That gives us a lot more power when we also hold hamas to grave violations.

I do not support Zionism. What on earth is good about it?

May your children never know you - your Islam is not Islam. You shame your ancestors.

I’m a white Christian American. I don’t understand why I’d support Zionism. It seems to be built on theft of land that doesn’t belong to you. I’m not ashamed of being opposed to theft.

You seem more like a typical woke white middle aged woman who consumes propaganda daily. There are a few of you who think identically.

Jeez, I imagine if you spent any time navel gazing, you'd reconsider that statement in light of what this country did to lands of the Native Americans. Also, looking back at who controlled what and when isn't going to solve the problems now.

You just made my point. You think exactly like this type of a middle aged woke white guilt driven woman. What news do you consume that all of you think and talk identically?

What on earth makes you think the braindead PP you are responding to watches news at all? She clearly gets all her information from TikTok at best.

That made me LOL and yes, it is true!

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#NotJournalism.

I can’t imagine any good Palestinian person volunteering to go on cnn to defend the Hamas attack or engage in whataboutism to justify an act of terror. And cnn obviously won’t bring Hamas sympathizers on tv. And why should they?

This is indefensible.

I think you might want to distinguish the past human rights abuses, land grab, etc. from what Hamas just did. They kidnapped women and children. They slaughtered a German tourist. Separate the past from the present and get on the right side of history.

The past IS the present. The past is happening. It never stopped. Israel doesn't get to say "nothing we did up until this point matters."

Disagree.

Your line of thinking seemingly absolves Bin Laden and the 9/11 terrorists by placing shared responsibility (at best) on the US for prior action in the Middle East. And that’s obviously ridiculous, right?

Here’s what is going to happen: all the Free Palestine people in the US, Europe, and other civilized nations will realize the atrocities committed by Hamas against women and children simply can’t be justified. They’ll quietly retreat. The only people voicing support for Hamas and Palestine will be terrorists: Hezbollah, Taliban, and religious extremists who clearly aren’t defending human rights.

I am sorry to be the one to tell you but the world doesn't feel nearly as much outrage about this as you think.

Just wait until more videos come out. Have you seen the kidnapped civilians? The kids? The young girls?

People will be outraged.

They ARE seeing them, and they're NOT outraged. Every comment section I see under one of these videos is 90% pro-Hamas/anti-Israel.

Are they Arabs? Muslims?

Figures. It’s a numbers game and they are everywhere.

But they don’t wield power…which is why they resort to terror.

Well it's online so I don't know. But all the white people I know are anti-Israel.

Only the ones who watch msnbc

No, pretty much all of them. My peer group is highly educated, very progressive and very self-loathing, and completely buy into the notion that Israel is a white, colonialist, super rich apartheid country.

Your peers are being kind, based on the comments I am reading on the Jerusalem Post I’d call the Israeli Jews savages.

The ones being kidnapped, tortured and murdered? Savages? How so?

They’re illegally occupying another country

So some Jew living in Haifa or Tel Aviv is occupying another country...and therefore a savage. Gotcha.

Umm yeah? The Jew living in Haifa has parents and grandparents who played an active role in pushing out an entire ethnic group to make room for themselves because you know their ancestors roamed the land 7000 years ago so therefore they are God’s chosen people.

You could say the exact same thing about any American, Canadian, Aussie and so on. Going to call all of us "savages"?