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Anonymous wrote:Why did they get so angry and cut off contact with Thomas Markle for selling private stories and doing interviews when that is their bread and butter?

Good point! I think because at that point, they were still living the fantasy of the “Fab 4,” with Meghan thinking she should be co-equal to Kate.

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Anonymous wrote:If these are the worst stories they can come up with....

she wagged a finger at me after I made a snarky comment about hormones...

he pushed me back after we got in a face to face shouting match about my wife bullying people....

This is a lot of ruined relationships over pretty petty family conflicts.

The confrontation escalated, Harry writes, until William “grabbed me by the collar, ripping my necklace, and … knocked me to the floor”.

The extraordinary scene, which Harry says resulted in visible injury to his back, is one of many in Spare, which will be published worldwide next week and is likely to spark a serious furore for the British royal family.

… After William complained about Meghan, Harry writes, Harry told him he was repeating the press narrative and that he expected better. But William, Harry says, was not being rational, leading to the two men shouting over each other.

Harry then accused his brother of acting like an heir, unable to understand why his younger brother was not content to be a spare.


Insults were exchanged, before William claimed he was trying to help.

Harry said: “Are you serious? Help me? Sorry – is that what you call this? Helping me?”

That comment, Harry says, angered his brother, who swore while stepping towards him. Now scared, Harry writes, he went to the kitchen, his furious brother following.

Harry writes that he gave his brother a glass of water and said: “Willy, I can’t speak to you when you’re like this.”

He writes: “He set down the water, called me another name, then came at me. It all happened so fast. So very fast. He grabbed me by the collar, ripping my necklace, and he knocked me to the floor. I landed on the dog’s bowl, which cracked under my back, the pieces cutting into me. I lay there for a moment, dazed, then got to my feet and told him to get out.”

Harry writes that William urged him to hit back, citing fights they had as children. Harry says he refused to do so. William left, Harry says, then returned “looking regretful, and apologised”.

When William left again, his brother writes, he “turned and called back: ‘You don’t need to tell Meg about this.’

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jan/04/prince-harry-william-physical-attack-2019-meghan-spare-book

The story about Kate and Will encouraging Harry to dress in the Nazi costume is the worst one in my opinion. It's one thing for 20 year old Harry to have bad judgment--he'll never have an important role in Britain. But the future king and queen?
https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-says-kate-middleton-prince-william-told-him-wear-nazi-costume-spare-reports/

WOW. This grown ass man is completely unable to take any responsibility for his actions. Is he really trying to blame this particular event on anyone other than himself? It completely diminishes his credibility on other topics.

I think he solely took responsibility for that action for more than a decade. But if he says that Will and Kate also egged him on, he's got a right to share his story.

I actually think all of the criticism for this is unfair - the rules changed very recently and this event preceded the time when dressing like a bad guy was no longer acceptable. But when he starts defensively pointing a finger at his brother and SIL, who he used to have a good relationship with, it's just pathetic. None of them knew better at the time. Now they all do. He can say whatever he wants, but that doesn't mean he should.

Exactly!

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Anonymous wrote:For very long time Harry was one of the most popular royal family members. I think the public was really happy for him when he found Meghan. Clearly, however there were signs that not all was well even before the wedding. And William tried to warn him, and Harry has been upset with him ever since.

What do you all think were William's objections and reasoning for trying to warn him? I'm sure it was the alleged staff bullying, but there has to be more.

I think William (and his grandfather and probably others) saw that Meghan wanted to be a star and would never settle for second fiddle.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the reaction to this and them specifically is all very interesting. I just reread the article from The Cut, since it was referenced here as 'unflattering' to Meghan. And I thought this exerpt actually kind of sums up the whole issue.

Or maybe it’s because by the time she met and married Harry, she was already a fully formed American woman: self-made, self-refined. She had desires and goals and a fan base. And while she was a fine actress, the job she is best at is envisioning a life for herself and getting it. That specific type of very American ambition just isn’t really compatible with being a princess.

The article I did not think was unflattering, it was just...accurate. I think they are the type of comically wealthy and privleged that they come off strange and stilted to normal people. And I think they have both endured a level of scrutiny and intentional tarring and feathering from the press that they have become intensely guarded and fearful about how they present themselves and as such DO have an overly curated vibe when presented with outsiders. I also think they are both extremely cheesy people, like the couple on instagram you know that makes you want to vom a little bit and that that side of them turns people off. But I know plenty of people that journaled and photographed their 'love stories' and their kids and etc etc etc and it is just who they are. Very cheesy, but not really vindictive or hurting anyone.

I think it is accurate to say that M/H have lived a very intense few years. Under an extreme amount of scrutiny and negative press and both have, in the process, become estranged from their families of birth. And I think how people react to that is probably mostly our own baggage. Many many celebrities will point to losing contact with relatives who changed and became greedy in the face of their relation obtaining fame and fortune. Meghan's story is not particularly unique there. And many many words have been written about the oppressive side to living in the British monarchy. But generally I think people are attracted to stories of great endurance. Endurance is seen as a virtue. Someone who sticks by the troubled family despite hardship is loyal. Anyone who walks away from family must be selfish/greedy/whatever. And in reality these are deeply personal and difficult situations. In my house growing up there was also a rule that 'what happens in the family stays in the family' and spoiler alert, that is not actually virtuous, it is a GIANT red flag about abuse. People can be very wealthy, and be very abusive.

I think at the end of the day it comes down to three essential truths

1) Harry has hated the press his entire life, and it is clearly a deep wound deep in his soul, and his family has not protected him from the press and in fact, in his moment of greatest need, they asked him to take one for the team and threw him to the dogs themselves, and that has created a wedge that will likely never be removed

2) Meghan was never cut out to be an obedient princess. She was/is a nice but ambitious and hard working woman with a vision of what she wants out of life, a clear feeling about what she believes is wrong and right, and an unwillingness to compromise herself entirely for anything or anyone. And in the end, this clashed with the institution and doomed her. She was never going to not fight back. And if you admire that quality overall you support her, and if you think she should have been thanking the gods for landing her a prince and keeping her mouth shut as she enjoyed the trappings of the royal life than you hate her.

3) Both have been in the public eye and famous for a very long time. Their existence requires income, and substantial income, to adequately protect their family. Meghan has been moving towards a goal of being famous for her entire adult life, and Harry has been taught since birth that he owes the world a life of service in response to the bounty he was born into. That doesn't make them inherently bad, but it does make it very not surprising that they are not fading into obscurity like wallflowers but simply building a business and life that meets those goals in their own way.

Love them or hate them, they have decided to free themselves of being in the control of others and will accept the judgements we lay at them while trying to fund their lives and do good where they can. And they will continue to get incredible amounts of hate and vitriol and admiration and love regardless. I for one wish them well, even if they have gotten so famous that they are now probably just a little bit weird as a result.

And I haven't read any negative stories about them since they've been in America personally, so I think a lot of that stuff is just rag gossip.

As for William and Kate, I understand Kate not being open with her at first, she has been in the institution since she was a teen and trusts no one unless they have earned it. And I understand how an American not knowing how all this worked would find her rude and cold and off putting and not understand any of that and have that lead to incredibly hurtful and deep misunderstandings that go both ways. And I can see Kate being extremely jealous and bitter of Meghan's refusal to accept indignities that Kate has accepted (that is not a criticism of Kate BTW).

And I think William is a rage a holic who has let the crown go, so to speak, to his head. I think he cheated on Kate, and I think he has been jealous of Harry's beloved status, and I think he is egotistical. And I think that is likely an inevitable state of being the heir. I imagine he both embraces and resents it. I hope they both (K/W) have found peace with it all.

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I hope Spare is clearer than this DailyMail article. Meghan makes a comment about hormones that sets Kate off at the bridal salon, but then somehow (at a different point in time?) William shows up and waves a finger in her face and that makes Meghan cry?

The way I read this is that there was a confrontation after the bridal salon exchange.

Man if someone I barely knew told me I had "baby brain" I would be LIVID. Is anyone else seeing this as William defending his wife?

Yeah, but I thought there was crying during the bridal salon exchange, so I guess I'm just not understanding the sequence. Anyway, I can see how some people would get pissed at that kind of offhand remark being made, especially Kate with her tough pregnancies. But many many many others would just laugh it off.

yeah. i joke about mommy brain and baby brain with my friends (who are also mothers). it's definitely not up there with the worst things you could say to an in-law.

Not the worst thing. But it can be used as an insult. And getting a finger wag in response seems appropriate.

Not a great relationship among in-laws. But not the worst. Or at least not then - now it is. SMH

How could the money and revenge possibly have been worth the end of your relationship with your only brother? I don't care how much you resented being "the spare," it is simply not worth it.

What did Harry actually want of William? To change their birth order? In every aspect of life (like it or not), there is a hierarchy.

I think he wanted his family/the institution to protect him in the same way William was protected. It's an understandable desire, if not realistic.

Of course he didn't want to "change the birth order." God, I don't think he envies William in any way and barely tolerated his royal duties, given what happened to his mother. And after finding other things that gave him more happiness: his military service, his philanthropies, and now his wife/kids. He absolutely expected his brother and father to protect his family and they didn't, going as far to remove their security detail once they decided to step away. Were they entitled to pull it back? Sure. But it makes them look petty and vindictive, and left them open to security breaches. Jesus, Tyler Perry had to step in to help them when their own family couldn't be magnanimous enough to keep them safe. It's absolutely grotesque.

While there are not doubt different recollections on the two sides re: some of the details, I 100000% believe Harry and Meghan. There are plenty of examples of hideous behavior by the Royal family to know what they are saying is true. Good for them for stepping away. Protecting their family. And of not longer sitting back and being the punching bags and telling their side.

Yep same. H&M wanted his family to simply tell the truth to help them, and they wouldn't. Meghan needed mental health help and they would not do anything for them. The Institution is simply protecting themselves, and once William & Kate had children they could've cared less about Harry. They had an opportunity with M being biracial and instead of embracing it they pushed them out. They did zero for them and even put them into harms way.

Good for them for getting out and telling their story. I don't think their story changes, but I do think they are choosing to reveal a bit more each time they speak.

Listen, Harry had a therapist, we are told. He and his brother both worked on mental health. Listen to that Oprah interview again - it was Harry who dropped the ball by not getting help for his wife!

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Anonymous wrote:The most vicious revelation is him writing about his father taking his childhood teddy bear everywhere sue to scars from childhood bullying. This is such a private and painful thing to reveal about someone else.

What a tragic end for Harry, I can’t see anyone wanting to keep his company.

It's appalling, I simply can't get over how vicious and petty the details are. Daily Mail has excerpts of the Kate vs. Meghan anecdotes, and they are mind-glowingly stupid. Anger about hugs, lip gloss, children's tights and requests not to be too informal prematurely? I mean wtf.

Amazing how this is mostly coming from the Sussexes, and Meghan really does not come across well at all. Arrogant, abrasive, presumptuous, and definitely jealous.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11606199/Inside-Meghan-Kates-long-standing-feud-fallings-drove-apart.html

It is mostly incredibly stupid and small, but do we think it's true Meghan paid for the Sussex's Ikea furniture vs. the Wales's lap-of-luxury decor? Very strange!

Meghan had a $1M wardrobe during her 18 months of service so I doubt it. They spent $4M renovating Frogmore and included a personal yoga room and floating floor and she had the designer of SOHO house do the interior decor.

That was not a part of the renovation, and it was 3.2 million, and they repaid it. And maybe that all seems nitpicky but it shows how people change and frame these stories to make her look comically awful.

But the comical awfulness is just from the semantics of the exact cost or the silly reno features. Are they not embarrassed to now be publicly complaining about how small their newlywed home was or how nice William and Catherine's furniture was when they ended up removating their dream home and now live in a mansion.

They were married for 2 minutes and were already comparing and complaining. What an awful way to start a marriage and join a family.

I mean it is KIND OF semantics. This is what I meant when I said they had just entered a world where things are so different as to be bizarre.

If I was marrying into a family like this and I was put into a 100s year old creaky home (and I am not at ALL surprised to hear that a lot of these properties need expensive substantial renovation, they have been around FOREVER), and watched other royal family members living in the lap of luxury while I was paying for IKEA furniture. I mean that would bother me! Maybe I'm an uppity American but inequity can be really upsetting. Pair that with the press situation and how a lot of their requests were being twisted in the press and yeah I think it was unfair considering the circumstances. I mean its all like, I think it takes two to tango (or in this case 15). In the end likely all of them had really bad moments and all of them had decent and kind moments. We will never really know who behaved worse, but I believe the stories about Rose Chumley so maybe that tarnishes my opinion.

Will and Kate have been married for 13 years which means they’ve had that long to live in and renovate multiple homes and collect/be gifted a ton of furnishings and decorative items. Meggy expected that immediately???

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I hope Spare is clearer than this DailyMail article. Meghan makes a comment about hormones that sets Kate off at the bridal salon, but then somehow (at a different point in time?) William shows up and waves a finger in her face and that makes Meghan cry?

The way I read this is that there was a confrontation after the bridal salon exchange.

Man if someone I barely knew told me I had "baby brain" I would be LIVID. Is anyone else seeing this as William defending his wife?

Yeah, but I thought there was crying during the bridal salon exchange, so I guess I'm just not understanding the sequence. Anyway, I can see how some people would get pissed at that kind of offhand remark being made, especially Kate with her tough pregnancies. But many many many others would just laugh it off.

yeah. i joke about mommy brain and baby brain with my friends (who are also mothers). it's definitely not up there with the worst things you could say to an in-law.

Not the worst thing. But it can be used as an insult. And getting a finger wag in response seems appropriate.

Not a great relationship among in-laws. But not the worst. Or at least not then - now it is. SMH

How could the money and revenge possibly have been worth the end of your relationship with your only brother? I don't care how much you resented being "the spare," it is simply not worth it.

What did Harry actually want of William? To change their birth order? In every aspect of life (like it or not), there is a hierarchy.

I think he wanted his family/the institution to protect him in the same way William was protected. It's an understandable desire, if not realistic.

Protect him in what way? From whom? How do we know they were not protecting him? Because he said so? It seems to me that Harry has been well protected. But then Meghan came in the picture and all hell broke loose.

I think Harry doesn't acknowledge the times he was protected, and that was clearly the case for a long while. But I also think he had the goods on William allowing the anti-Meghan leak to the Daily Mail, and of course would resent that. An outspoken American joining the royal family was a culture shock all around, and it seems they were not inclined to protect her in terms of PR. Even if I think some of it (eg the question of staff treatment) was her own doing, Harry felt the need to draw the line when it came to her and the kids. I don't blame him for that, and I also think he's well aware Kate was trashed in the press for many years but, unlike William, was unwilling to tolerate it. As is often the case, the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.

Do you think the outspoken American sort of brought it on herself by a very open lack of interest in fitting in and learning what's expected of her?

Seeing as Meghan has rejected all advice and mentorship offered to her early on, it looks like she never intended to stay. She saw huge commercial value to the BRF connection, and wanted to merch it. From the beginning. That's the motherlode.

Is this true though? I don't know whether we have enough info to make that determination. That is not to say I don't think they both come across as stereotypically self-centered millennials.

I recently read a book by a former BBC reporter who alleges the same thing. The basic bombshell is that she wasn’t going anywhere in Hollywood and needed to marry a wealthy man. She sized up the opportunity very quickly. The book is “Revenge” by Tom Bower.

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Anonymous wrote:For very long time Harry was one of the most popular royal family members. I think the public was really happy for him when he found Meghan. Clearly, however there were signs that not all was well even before the wedding. And William tried to warn him, and Harry has been upset with him ever since.

What do you all think were William's objections and reasoning for trying to warn him? I'm sure it was the alleged staff bullying, but there has to be more.

That Harry and Meghan were getting popular, too popular.

No, this was way before they were publicly together as a couple.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not planning to read the book or buy the book. But, I certainly will give money to Meghan and Harry directly or through GoFundMe, if there is a way to do so.

I do not understand why a substandard human as Charles can become King, just because of his birth? THere is no need to have a monarchy in a democracy. If these jokers are wealthy on tax payer dime, then so can Harry and Meghan be. They lost their collective minds because of Meghan being half black.

Ummm…a bit of history is in order. The Kings of England owned vast wealth, most of which was given to the British state and is now referred to as “The Crown Estate.” The British Royal Family takes a small percent of the estate’s yearly earnings as funding for the royal palaces, tours, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:The most vicious revelation is him writing about his father taking his childhood teddy bear everywhere sue to scars from childhood bullying. This is such a private and painful thing to reveal about someone else.

What a tragic end for Harry, I can’t see anyone wanting to keep his company.

It's appalling, I simply can't get over how vicious and petty the details are. Daily Mail has excerpts of the Kate vs. Meghan anecdotes, and they are mind-glowingly stupid. Anger about hugs, lip gloss, children's tights and requests not to be too informal prematurely? I mean wtf.

Amazing how this is mostly coming from the Sussexes, and Meghan really does not come across well at all. Arrogant, abrasive, presumptuous, and definitely jealous.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11606199/Inside-Meghan-Kates-long-standing-feud-fallings-drove-apart.html

It is mostly incredibly stupid and small, but do we think it's true Meghan paid for the Sussex's Ikea furniture vs. the Wales's lap-of-luxury decor? Very strange!

Meghan had a $1M wardrobe during her 18 months of service so I doubt it. They spent $4M renovating Frogmore and included a personal yoga room and floating floor and she had the designer of SOHO house do the interior decor.

That was not a part of the renovation, and it was 3.2 million, and they repaid it. And maybe that all seems nitpicky but it shows how people change and frame these stories to make her look comically awful.

But the comical awfulness is just from the semantics of the exact cost or the silly reno features. Are they not embarrassed to now be publicly complaining about how small their newlywed home was or how nice William and Catherine's furniture was when they ended up removating their dream home and now live in a mansion.

They were married for 2 minutes and were already comparing and complaining. What an awful way to start a marriage and join a family.

I mean it is KIND OF semantics. This is what I meant when I said they had just entered a world where things are so different as to be bizarre.

If I was marrying into a family like this and I was put into a 100s year old creaky home (and I am not at ALL surprised to hear that a lot of these properties need expensive substantial renovation, they have been around FOREVER), and watched other royal family members living in the lap of luxury while I was paying for IKEA furniture. I mean that would bother me! Maybe I'm an uppity American but inequity can be really upsetting. Pair that with the press situation and how a lot of their requests were being twisted in the press and yeah I think it was unfair considering the circumstances. I mean its all like, I think it takes two to tango (or in this case 15). In the end likely all of them had really bad moments and all of them had decent and kind moments. We will never really know who behaved worse, but I believe the stories about Rose Chumley so maybe that tarnishes my opinion.

Will and Kate have been married for 13 years which means they’ve had that long to live in and renovate multiple homes and collect/be gifted a ton of furnishings and decorative items. Meggy expected that immediately???

Willy and Kate lived in a rented cottage in Anglesy when they first got married and the renovation to their country home Amner Hall cost £1.2, about half that of Frogmore. I believe even their wedding cost less than the “Spare’s” wedding.

And yes £2.4M was roughly $4M, so no exaggeration. For that amount of money you can build an exquisite custom mansion from scratch in the UK, so I don’t want to hear about how expensive it is to renovate an old house.

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Anonymous wrote:The most vicious revelation is him writing about his father taking his childhood teddy bear everywhere sue to scars from childhood bullying. This is such a private and painful thing to reveal about someone else.

What a tragic end for Harry, I can’t see anyone wanting to keep his company.

It's appalling, I simply can't get over how vicious and petty the details are. Daily Mail has excerpts of the Kate vs. Meghan anecdotes, and they are mind-glowingly stupid. Anger about hugs, lip gloss, children's tights and requests not to be too informal prematurely? I mean wtf.

Amazing how this is mostly coming from the Sussexes, and Meghan really does not come across well at all. Arrogant, abrasive, presumptuous, and definitely jealous.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11606199/Inside-Meghan-Kates-long-standing-feud-fallings-drove-apart.html

It is mostly incredibly stupid and small, but do we think it's true Meghan paid for the Sussex's Ikea furniture vs. the Wales's lap-of-luxury decor? Very strange!

Meghan had a $1M wardrobe during her 18 months of service so I doubt it. They spent $4M renovating Frogmore and included a personal yoga room and floating floor and she had the designer of SOHO house do the interior decor.

That was not a part of the renovation, and it was 3.2 million, and they repaid it. And maybe that all seems nitpicky but it shows how people change and frame these stories to make her look comically awful.

But the comical awfulness is just from the semantics of the exact cost or the silly reno features. Are they not embarrassed to now be publicly complaining about how small their newlywed home was or how nice William and Catherine's furniture was when they ended up removating their dream home and now live in a mansion.

They were married for 2 minutes and were already comparing and complaining. What an awful way to start a marriage and join a family.

I mean it is KIND OF semantics. This is what I meant when I said they had just entered a world where things are so different as to be bizarre.

If I was marrying into a family like this and I was put into a 100s year old creaky home (and I am not at ALL surprised to hear that a lot of these properties need expensive substantial renovation, they have been around FOREVER), and watched other royal family members living in the lap of luxury while I was paying for IKEA furniture. I mean that would bother me! Maybe I'm an uppity American but inequity can be really upsetting. Pair that with the press situation and how a lot of their requests were being twisted in the press and yeah I think it was unfair considering the circumstances. I mean its all like, I think it takes two to tango (or in this case 15). In the end likely all of them had really bad moments and all of them had decent and kind moments. We will never really know who behaved worse, but I believe the stories about Rose Chumley so maybe that tarnishes my opinion.

Will and Kate have been married for 13 years which means they’ve had that long to live in and renovate multiple homes and collect/be gifted a ton of furnishings and decorative items. Meggy expected that immediately???

Willy and Kate lived in a rented cottage in Anglesy when they first got married and the renovation to their country home Amner Hall cost £1.2, about half that of Frogmore. I believe even their wedding cost less than the “Spare’s” wedding.

And yes £2.4M was roughly $4M, so no exaggeration. For that amount of money you can build an exquisite custom mansion from scratch in the UK, so I don’t want to hear about how expensive it is to renovate an old house.

The yoga floor was complete bs though

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Anonymous wrote:If H wanted a family, why not embrace M's? Oh wait, she's on the outs (or paying them). How is this different?

As far as leaks, M was leaking so much she couldn't hold water. But no one else can leak? GMAF

These two deserve what they get.

it may be a long time coming, but eventually, her mom will die and they'll find out how alone they've made themselves.

They won't be together at that point.

Exactly. And she might be on her second or third husband by then. Oh, I forgot, H is her second husband! Make it her third or fourth.

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Anonymous wrote:I had wondered about the big picture of H (and M) trashing his family and the long term prospect of the BRF. Here's an article that touches on that:

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/3784176-the-trouble-with-harry-and-meghan/

Assigning them responsibility for UK national security is a bit much, don't you think? They're well on their way to becoming C-list celebrities. Who really cares abut any of this drivel, beyond the mild entertainment offered by salacious petty gossip.

+1 In fact Britain might be more secure as a true democracy, rather than bowing and curtsying to a bunch of mediocre inbred German descendants.

+2 Referring to Charles's figurehead-only-role as military head is ridiculous.

Which is more ridiculous, having Trump as Commander-in-Chief or Biden?

Neither. Y'all are being ridiculous. We have a head of state. The UK has a head of state. These are important, respected roles.

You don't seem the grasp the fundamental difference between the two. The British monarch doesn't make any military decisions; that role has been officially remanded to the Prime Minister and Defence Office. He is kept informed but has no real authority beyond approving military appointments at a certain rank.

Yes, we have combined some roles whereas other countries have separated them. Different countries do things differently. But not wrong, just because they don't do it the way we do.

I don't think the PPs were criticizing the way defense roles have been institutionalized in the UK, far from it. Who wants that kind of power in the hands of any unelected person? The point is that assigning any national security significance to H&M's critique of the royal family is nutty.

Did you bother to read the article? It is on-point.

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Anonymous wrote:If H wanted a family, why not embrace M's? Oh wait, she's on the outs (or paying them). How is this different?

As far as leaks, M was leaking so much she couldn't hold water. But no one else can leak? GMAF

These two deserve what they get.

Well it does seem he might be close to her mom?

Who walked out on Megan as a child and seemed to be absent from a big part of her life. Who also appears to be where Megan got the whole grifting lifestyle she embraces. Doria is being paid to be family at this point and if the money train stops, so will she.

Maybe she will write the tell all book next. Hope she's furiously taking notes now.

Oh, didn’t you hear? They committed to a four-book deal. Hers will come next, and as she pointed out, she never signed an NDA.

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Anonymous wrote:If you are in your mid 30's, have an education and a career, had a difficult life, had been abandoned by family, divorced by husband and experienced hypocrisy of Hollywood, why wouldn't you do some research and take time to understand a potential husband and his family?

Meghan initiated the divorce, as well as the break up with the guy she was living with when she first connected with H.