Zohran Mamdani...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Mamdani won because Americans are diving head first into populism. It’s the same reason Trump won.

I disagree.

I think it shows that his voters are diving head first into socialism. These people are primarily rich, or well-to-do white people - likely many of the same ones protesting day after day on collega campuses. While they are "educated" they are not intelligent enough to understand that he does not have the authority to enact most of his promises. But, these people have been taught socialism throughout their lives. You might say they have been indoctrinated and not taught to think critically. The majority of poor people in NYC and the working class did not vote for him. Seems they have more sense than those who are supposedly "educated."

I don't know how many times this has to be repeated. The working class is precisely who voted for Mamdani. He got "the middle," not rich people. He won the votes of exactly the people he was trying to reach. Stop trying to mischaracterize his win, or at the very least, get some accurate talking points.

Not true. He won the college educated youth vote but not the working class vote which primarily went to Cuomo.

[Anonymous]

You can tell he is idealistic and naive by how he unapologetically himself he is. I would rather give him a chance than same old faces from the establishment. Yes he may not deliver what he thinks he can but we already know his opponent won't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bernie Sanders is 100% right and it it still criminal how the Democratic establishment undermined democracy by ignoring the people and rigging/stealing the nomination away from him.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jun/25/democrats-learn-zohran-mamdani-victory

Mamdani has been criticized for his “radical” and “unrealistic” economic policies:

Demanding that, at a time of unprecedented income and wealth inequality, the rich and large corporations start paying their fair share of taxes.

Demanding that, when many New Yorkers are no longer able to find affordable housing, there should be a freeze on rent hikes.

Demanding that, when commuting to a job takes a big toll out of a worker’s paycheck, public transportation should be free.

Demanding that, when many low-income and working people are unable to access good-quality food for themselves and their kids, publicly owned neighborhood grocery stores should be created.

These ideas, and more, are not radical. They may not be what billionaires, wealthy campaign contributors and real estate speculators want, but they are what working people want. And maybe, just maybe, it’s time to listen to them.
Importantly, he did not run away from the moral issue that is troubling millions in New York and around the country: the need to end US military support for a rightwing extremist Benjamin Netanyahu government in Israel that is obliterating the people of Gaza and starving their children. Mamdani understands that antisemitism is a disgusting and dangerous ideology, but that it is not antisemitic to be critical of the inhumane policies of the Netanyahu government.

The lesson of Mamdani’s campaign is that it is not good enough just to be critical of Trump and his destructive policies. We have to bring forth a positive vision and an analysis of why things are the way they are. It is not good enough to maintain a status quo that is failing most Americans. At a time when hope is in increasingly short supply, people must have the sense that if we work together, if we have the courage to take on powerful special interests, we can create a better world – a world of economic, social, racial and environmental justice.

Will the current Democratic party leadership learn the lessons of the Mamdani campaign? Probably not. Too many of them would rather be the captains on a sinking Titanic, rather than change course.

Then again, it doesn’t matter what they think. The establishment threw everything they had against Mamdani – millions in Super Pac money, endorsements from “important people”, a hostile media – and they still lost.

Amen!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mamdani won because Americans are diving head first into populism. It’s the same reason Trump won.

I disagree.

I think it shows that his voters are diving head first into socialism. These people are primarily rich, or well-to-do white people - likely many of the same ones protesting day after day on collega campuses. While they are "educated" they are not intelligent enough to understand that he does not have the authority to enact most of his promises. But, these people have been taught socialism throughout their lives. You might say they have been indoctrinated and not taught to think critically. The majority of poor people in NYC and the working class did not vote for him. Seems they have more sense than those who are supposedly "educated."

I don't know how many times this has to be repeated. The working class is precisely who voted for Mamdani. He got "the middle," not rich people. He won the votes of exactly the people he was trying to reach. Stop trying to mischaracterize his win, or at the very least, get some accurate talking points.

Not true. He won the college educated youth vote but not the working class vote which primarily went to Cuomo.

Source?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mamdani won because Americans are diving head first into populism. It’s the same reason Trump won.

I disagree.

I think it shows that his voters are diving head first into socialism. These people are primarily rich, or well-to-do white people - likely many of the same ones protesting day after day on collega campuses. While they are "educated" they are not intelligent enough to understand that he does not have the authority to enact most of his promises. But, these people have been taught socialism throughout their lives. You might say they have been indoctrinated and not taught to think critically. The majority of poor people in NYC and the working class did not vote for him. Seems they have more sense than those who are supposedly "educated."

I don't know how many times this has to be repeated. The working class is precisely who voted for Mamdani. He got "the middle," not rich people. He won the votes of exactly the people he was trying to reach. Stop trying to mischaracterize his win, or at the very least, get some accurate talking points.

Not true. He won the college educated youth vote but not the working class vote which primarily went to Cuomo.

Has there been an age breakdown yet? It seems older people went Cuomo and younger went Mamdani

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mamdani won because Americans are diving head first into populism. It’s the same reason Trump won.

I disagree.

I think it shows that his voters are diving head first into socialism. These people are primarily rich, or well-to-do white people - likely many of the same ones protesting day after day on collega campuses. While they are "educated" they are not intelligent enough to understand that he does not have the authority to enact most of his promises. But, these people have been taught socialism throughout their lives. You might say they have been indoctrinated and not taught to think critically. The majority of poor people in NYC and the working class did not vote for him. Seems they have more sense than those who are supposedly "educated."

I don't know how many times this has to be repeated. The working class is precisely who voted for Mamdani. He got "the middle," not rich people. He won the votes of exactly the people he was trying to reach. Stop trying to mischaracterize his win, or at the very least, get some accurate talking points.

Not true. He won the college educated youth vote but not the working class vote which primarily went to Cuomo.

Has there been an age breakdown yet? It seems older people went Cuomo and younger went Mamdani

From what I’ve seen yes and that’s true.

He did NOT get the working class vote.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mamdani won because Americans are diving head first into populism. It’s the same reason Trump won.

I disagree.

I think it shows that his voters are diving head first into socialism. These people are primarily rich, or well-to-do white people - likely many of the same ones protesting day after day on collega campuses. While they are "educated" they are not intelligent enough to understand that he does not have the authority to enact most of his promises. But, these people have been taught socialism throughout their lives. You might say they have been indoctrinated and not taught to think critically. The majority of poor people in NYC and the working class did not vote for him. Seems they have more sense than those who are supposedly "educated."

I don't know how many times this has to be repeated. The working class is precisely who voted for Mamdani. He got "the middle," not rich people. He won the votes of exactly the people he was trying to reach. Stop trying to mischaracterize his win, or at the very least, get some accurate talking points.

Not true. He won the college educated youth vote but not the working class vote which primarily went to Cuomo.

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just listened to some of Mamdani's campaign promises.
He reminds me of a 5th grader running for student council "better school lunches, more recess!!".
Just say what everyone would clearly want without any idea of how to make it happen: "free child care, rent control, cheaper groceries".
How could he possibly make any of these things happen?
Take the free child care...are there enough providers? Enough actually locations? Who pays for all this?
Rent control? There already is rent control.
State run grocery stores? What? How? Where? When? Who?
All the question words apply and he never seems to directly answer logistical questions other that to say "tax the wealthy".
This guy is a good talker, I'll give him that.

He actually explains how he will fund these things if you care to find out.

Cities run public water so is that any different than a grocery store in all honesty? A store per borough is not going to hurt anybody. Competition is the spirit of capitalism and government and politicians are already entangled in big business. Didn’t Hillary sit on the board for Walmart? Isn’t that kinda the same thing as a government run grocery store? If politicians are lobbying for Tyson food, Monsanto, Walmart, Amazon, then what difference does it make?

When I was a kid, and poor, we used to get food from the "government store." I remember big blocks of government cheese. Why not just return to those days? It's probably easier than securing a building, hiring staff to run the store, and managing logistics of food delivery, storage, and distribution.

You are a little confused. That government store sold a single product that it paid someone to produce so that it could give it away for free and subsidize milk production in the process.

That free cheese cost three times as much as it should have.

[Anonymous]

He sounds like a good solid candidate.
Why are people questioning this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just listened to some of Mamdani's campaign promises.
He reminds me of a 5th grader running for student council "better school lunches, more recess!!".
Just say what everyone would clearly want without any idea of how to make it happen: "free child care, rent control, cheaper groceries".
How could he possibly make any of these things happen?
Take the free child care...are there enough providers? Enough actually locations? Who pays for all this?
Rent control? There already is rent control.
State run grocery stores? What? How? Where? When? Who?
All the question words apply and he never seems to directly answer logistical questions other that to say "tax the wealthy".
This guy is a good talker, I'll give him that.

He actually explains how he will fund these things if you care to find out.

Cities run public water so is that any different than a grocery store in all honesty? A store per borough is not going to hurt anybody. Competition is the spirit of capitalism and government and politicians are already entangled in big business. Didn’t Hillary sit on the board for Walmart? Isn’t that kinda the same thing as a government run grocery store? If politicians are lobbying for Tyson food, Monsanto, Walmart, Amazon, then what difference does it make?

When I was a kid, and poor, we used to get food from the "government store." I remember big blocks of government cheese. Why not just return to those days? It's probably easier than securing a building, hiring staff to run the store, and managing logistics of food delivery, storage, and distribution.

That’s literally what he’s asking for. A government store.

Did the government store you went to not have workers and was it not in a building? I really don’t understand this point about the logistics being difficult. In the rural cities or states, city run groceries already exist. NYC surprisingly doesn’t have that many grocery chains. It’s not a driver town first of all so maybe that limits the amount of income stores make. People only buy what they can carry home via walk or public transport. Ny has tons of McDonald’s, Duane reades, candy/convenience stores, Starbucks, even juice bars and liquor stores but not that many supermarkets or grocery stores for a city of that size.

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Also, a grocery store needs a ton of square feet to operate and it’s hard for private business to afford the space and the inevitables like profit loss on unsold produce without hiking up to very expensive prices.

People would rather buy a slice of pizza, hot dog, or a deli sandwich and soda from the corner store. Easy items to walk and carry. Ironically the halal cart and corner store owners (mostly Muslim) will be Mr. mamdani’s fiercest critics. Government stores would greatly hurt their bottom line unless the consumers continue to select fast food over government groceries (a possibility). The street food and corner stores are an institution In ny and bypass class lines

[Anonymous]

Another thing that he has said that has triggered many New Yorkers is that he would be willing to arrest Benjamin Netanyahu if he came to the city for the arrest warrant for genocidal actions. With such a large Jewish population in New York, I could see why so many people would be upset.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, a grocery store needs a ton of square feet to operate and it’s hard for private business to afford the space and the inevitables like profit loss on unsold produce without hiking up to very expensive prices.

People would rather buy a slice of pizza, hot dog, or a deli sandwich and soda from the corner store. Easy items to walk and carry. Ironically the halal cart and corner store owners (mostly Muslim) will be Mr. mamdani’s fiercest critics. Government stores would greatly hurt their bottom line unless the consumers continue to select fast food over government groceries (a possibility). The street food and corner stores are an institution In ny and bypass class lines

Do people genuinely just not cook at all in NYC?

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Anonymous wrote:All those running like headless chickens kindly calm down. Mamdani can’t run for president.

We know.
But he can destroy NYC.

Just when we thought NYC couldn’t get any worse.

Bring on AOC’s soulmate, Houdini Mamdani promising he’ll magically make everything free. TAX THE RICH!

How much more in taxes are the rich AOC and Mamdani coughing up? Zero.

How about you rich people start to walk your talk?

[Anonymous]

Eric Adams is going to crush ZM with working class voters, Black voters, and white people in places like Queens and Staten Island.

We’ll see how much support ZM has from “the people” when he runs against a guy like Adams. The general election is going to be the 2021 Dem primary all over, except ZM is Maya Wiley. I can see Republicans putting up a flimsy candidate and moderate Dems, Republicans and independents lining up for Adams. ZM is going to get crushed in the general.