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Why are Northern Kids Flocking to Southern Universities?
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Anonymous
Alabama also has the most generous merit aid for national merit semifinalists, amd attracts literally hundreds of kids with those scholarships, most of whom are from oos. |
Anonymous
It's a definite success. Thank you former Governor Zell Miller! His mom was a teacher, and he was from north Georgia. Knew how important a college education would be for capable, motivated students, regardless of income. Also, the Atlanta area is filled with transplants from northern states. They very much want their kids to attend UGA. |
Anonymous
As the climate cools even more I expect this trend to increase. |
Anonymous
+1 |
Anonymous
Just bumping this because pp said no one had made this argument. |
Anonymous
Not a mischaracterization. Just bumped the post. |
Anonymous
Also note that more than one poster made this argument. And no one has replied to the argument that applications were up 22% nationwide, so a mere 6% increase is actually underperforming. Most Southern universities way over performed that national average. |
Anonymous
Yes, a mischaracterization. Look at the sentence again: And it's much easier to experience a big percentage increase in applications when starting from a lower baseline than another university. That statement is 100% accurate -- it IS much easier for a School A to experience, say, a 50% increase in applications than for School B to experience a 50% increase if School B started with double number of applications as School A. The point being made that you can't directly compare X% increase to Y% increases when there are difference baselines involved. But someone took that general statement of fact, which applies across the board (hence the use of the generic "another university"), and misconstrued it to wrongly claim that the author was arguing that it was easier for Michigan to experience a 6% increase in applications than for Auburn to experience whatever large percentage increase it experienced. I have absolutely nothing against Auburn. It's a very good school and one of my friends whom I admire the most is an Auburn grad. And yes, the increase in applications it has received is very impressive -- it's obviously doing something right -- and I have no doubt it has more OOS students from the North than it used to. But as has been said, even big increases in OOS applications at good Southern universities does NOT demonstrate that kids from the Northeast/Midwest/Mid-Atlantic are "flocking" there at the expense of applications to/enrollment in good Northern universities. |
Anonymous
Truth! |
Anonymous
| There is not one reason and deny it all you like - it’s the truth. The kids in the DC privates who do this go to party, to lighten up the academic experience, to have more fun. Period. |
Anonymous
But does that mean those applications were coming from Northern students? |
Anonymous
In other words, it’s ok for them to go to bad schools to party but not ok for them to go to good schools to pursue “lesser” majors. The DCUM logic never fails to amaze. |
Anonymous
I’d argue that a UF graduate with an EE degree is better positioned than a UConn grad with a sociology degree, but that’s just me |
Anonymous
You’re the one taking things out of context. Go back and review the preceding comments (it’s easier to miss this now that this forum doesn’t show the entire thread of comments that are being responded to). That statement was specifically in reference to the relative application increases and size of the Michigan student body vs. Auburn. Besides, it’s ridiculous to argue that something is a “general statement of fact” on the context of a specific discussion and then claim that you didn’t mean it applies to this specific case. Why was the claim made if it isn’t relevant to the argument? Besides, you admit that more students are applying and attending Southern universities. The data shows that, with overall college applications up 22%, the relatively small increases in applications seen in the North show a reduction in the % of the overall pool that those colleges are attracting. If the overall application rate is up 20% and the Southern universities are seeing 50-100%+ increases in apps, that is clearly at the “expense” of schools that saw increases below 20%. So, are you really just arguing about the definition of “flocking?” That was Town & Country’s term, btw. So, I’ll concede it’s not a “flock.” Call it what you will, it’s a definite, and significant, trend. |
Anonymous
Where do you think they are coming from? The Northeast is one of the most populous parts of the country. If you really are so desperate to know, you can look up this information for a particular school. |