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Anonymous wrote:https://www.commentary.org/articles/stephen-steinberg/how-jewish-quotas-began/

A fascinating story on how the success of Jews was resented and how they were “put in place” by the dominant establishment.

In the early years of last century, Jews were recent immigrants and prioritized education of their children over everything else.

They were subject to among others things geographical quotas, allegations that their children were peculiar and not “well rounded” and that they were resource hoarders. Laws and policies were implemented at the best of schools to keep Jews out of elite colleges.

It is the same set of forces at play with Asian-Americans. Resentment of the Asian American success is pushing so called “reform” with the express purpose of containing their success. The Jewish community is one of the most successful ones today because they never gave up and never gave in. And so will the Asian Americans.

Not the same set of forces at all.

Jewish people faced real bigotry and were broadly disdained.

For TJ, people think the near non-existence of URMs/low income students is unacceptable. It’s nothing against wealthy Asians (sense of entitlement aside).

Trust me, it is the same forces. In this age of social media, you cannot afford to be blunt so the moves are couched in talk of helping URMs and using innuendo like “pay to play” to suggest Asian Americans don’t believe in fair play. But the methods are the same. Elite colleges put in geographical quotas in high Jewish density areas to have fewer Jewish folks admitted.

The Jewish people were successful in spite of the disdain they faced. They were shut out by geographical quotas and not the bigotry they faced.

They used quotas back then because they were anti-Semitic. No one here is anti-Asian (though those people certainly exists in general).

Today, we think that the TJ should attainable for more people in the county. Having only a handful of wealthy middle schools scoop up all of the seats is way too inequitable.

Just like the anti-Semitic did not wear a label saying anti-Semitic, the anti-Asians don’t wear a label that says Anti-Asian. Action speak louder than words. History will not be forgiving.

“The actions”?

Increasing diversity - economic, racial, special needs, English learners.

And going from 73% to 54% Asian students.

GMAFB.

You are not alone in wanting fewer Asians. Here is Amy Wax, renowned professor of the UPenn Law School.

“[We] have to distinguish mass-immigration, which we’re getting from the Hispanics, south of the border, which I think poses different questions and challenges from the Asian elites that we’re getting,” she said. “It doesn’t mean that the influx of Asian elites is unproblematic. I actually think it’s problematic. …I think it’s because there’s this…danger of the dominance of an Asian elite in this country, and what does that mean? What is that going to mean to change the culture?

“Does the spirit of liberty beat in their breast?” she continued.

Read the article and you will try and understand how this TJ episode resonates with what Asians are feeling in general when it comes to discrimination. Throw-in the increased street crime against Asian Americans and you will understand why your beating the URM drum sounds tone deaf to Asian Americans.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/racist-penn-law-prof-amy-wax-makes-disturbing-claim-us-is-better-off-with-fewer-asians

Wanting more diversity is not anti-Asian.

I guess playing victim (with 54% of the class) makes you feel better.

It is if you define diversity by race and measure diversity by student demographics in terms of race. You are a racist. Own it.

Primarily economic. And geographic. But, yes, if you only have a handful of URMs something is broken.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.commentary.org/articles/stephen-steinberg/how-jewish-quotas-began/

A fascinating story on how the success of Jews was resented and how they were “put in place” by the dominant establishment.

In the early years of last century, Jews were recent immigrants and prioritized education of their children over everything else.

They were subject to among others things geographical quotas, allegations that their children were peculiar and not “well rounded” and that they were resource hoarders. Laws and policies were implemented at the best of schools to keep Jews out of elite colleges.

It is the same set of forces at play with Asian-Americans. Resentment of the Asian American success is pushing so called “reform” with the express purpose of containing their success. The Jewish community is one of the most successful ones today because they never gave up and never gave in. And so will the Asian Americans.

Not the same set of forces at all.

Jewish people faced real bigotry and were broadly disdained.

For TJ, people think the near non-existence of URMs/low income students is unacceptable. It’s nothing against wealthy Asians (sense of entitlement aside).

Trust me, it is the same forces. In this age of social media, you cannot afford to be blunt so the moves are couched in talk of helping URMs and using innuendo like “pay to play” to suggest Asian Americans don’t believe in fair play. But the methods are the same. Elite colleges put in geographical quotas in high Jewish density areas to have fewer Jewish folks admitted.

The Jewish people were successful in spite of the disdain they faced. They were shut out by geographical quotas and not the bigotry they faced.

They used quotas back then because they were anti-Semitic. No one here is anti-Asian (though those people certainly exists in general).

Today, we think that the TJ should attainable for more people in the county. Having only a handful of wealthy middle schools scoop up all of the seats is way too inequitable.

Just like the anti-Semitic did not wear a label saying anti-Semitic, the anti-Asians don’t wear a label that says Anti-Asian. Action speak louder than words. History will not be forgiving.

“The actions”?

Increasing diversity - economic, racial, special needs, English learners.

And going from 73% to 54% Asian students.

GMAFB.

You are not alone in wanting fewer Asians. Here is Amy Wax, renowned professor of the UPenn Law School.

“[We] have to distinguish mass-immigration, which we’re getting from the Hispanics, south of the border, which I think poses different questions and challenges from the Asian elites that we’re getting,” she said. “It doesn’t mean that the influx of Asian elites is unproblematic. I actually think it’s problematic. …I think it’s because there’s this…danger of the dominance of an Asian elite in this country, and what does that mean? What is that going to mean to change the culture?

“Does the spirit of liberty beat in their breast?” she continued.

Read the article and you will try and understand how this TJ episode resonates with what Asians are feeling in general when it comes to discrimination. Throw-in the increased street crime against Asian Americans and you will understand why your beating the URM drum sounds tone deaf to Asian Americans.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/racist-penn-law-prof-amy-wax-makes-disturbing-claim-us-is-better-off-with-fewer-asians

Wanting more diversity is not anti-Asian.

I guess playing victim (with 54% of the class) makes you feel better.

Oh don’t be coy. We both know the issue at hand is not “wanting more diversity”

Asians want diversity - it helps them too.

The issue at hand is forcing your brand of diversity using unconstitutional social engineering methods. That is the issue.

The issue was the lack of diversity (economic, geographic, racial, EL, etc).

The solution wasn’t ideal but it’s a step in the right direction.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.commentary.org/articles/stephen-steinberg/how-jewish-quotas-began/

A fascinating story on how the success of Jews was resented and how they were “put in place” by the dominant establishment.

In the early years of last century, Jews were recent immigrants and prioritized education of their children over everything else.

They were subject to among others things geographical quotas, allegations that their children were peculiar and not “well rounded” and that they were resource hoarders. Laws and policies were implemented at the best of schools to keep Jews out of elite colleges.

It is the same set of forces at play with Asian-Americans. Resentment of the Asian American success is pushing so called “reform” with the express purpose of containing their success. The Jewish community is one of the most successful ones today because they never gave up and never gave in. And so will the Asian Americans.

Not the same set of forces at all.

Jewish people faced real bigotry and were broadly disdained.

For TJ, people think the near non-existence of URMs/low income students is unacceptable. It’s nothing against wealthy Asians (sense of entitlement aside).

Trust me, it is the same forces. In this age of social media, you cannot afford to be blunt so the moves are couched in talk of helping URMs and using innuendo like “pay to play” to suggest Asian Americans don’t believe in fair play. But the methods are the same. Elite colleges put in geographical quotas in high Jewish density areas to have fewer Jewish folks admitted.

The Jewish people were successful in spite of the disdain they faced. They were shut out by geographical quotas and not the bigotry they faced.

They used quotas back then because they were anti-Semitic. No one here is anti-Asian (though those people certainly exists in general).

Today, we think that the TJ should attainable for more people in the county. Having only a handful of wealthy middle schools scoop up all of the seats is way too inequitable.

Just like the anti-Semitic did not wear a label saying anti-Semitic, the anti-Asians don’t wear a label that says Anti-Asian. Action speak louder than words. History will not be forgiving.

“The actions”?

Increasing diversity - economic, racial, special needs, English learners.

And going from 73% to 54% Asian students.

GMAFB.

You are not alone in wanting fewer Asians. Here is Amy Wax, renowned professor of the UPenn Law School.

“[We] have to distinguish mass-immigration, which we’re getting from the Hispanics, south of the border, which I think poses different questions and challenges from the Asian elites that we’re getting,” she said. “It doesn’t mean that the influx of Asian elites is unproblematic. I actually think it’s problematic. …I think it’s because there’s this…danger of the dominance of an Asian elite in this country, and what does that mean? What is that going to mean to change the culture?

“Does the spirit of liberty beat in their breast?” she continued.

Read the article and you will try and understand how this TJ episode resonates with what Asians are feeling in general when it comes to discrimination. Throw-in the increased street crime against Asian Americans and you will understand why your beating the URM drum sounds tone deaf to Asian Americans.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/racist-penn-law-prof-amy-wax-makes-disturbing-claim-us-is-better-off-with-fewer-asians

Wanting more diversity is not anti-Asian.

I guess playing victim (with 54% of the class) makes you feel better.

Oh don’t be coy. We both know the issue at hand is not “wanting more diversity”

Asians want diversity - it helps them too.

The issue at hand is forcing your brand of diversity using unconstitutional social engineering methods. That is the issue.

The issue was the lack of diversity (economic, geographic, racial, EL, etc).

The solution wasn’t ideal but it’s a step in the right direction.

And step in the racist direction as well.

[Anonymous]

The pro "reform" people need to be honest at least with themselves. This entire exercise is motivated by race.

It all started when the admission result for 2020 was released and showed a break down by race. Black students were TS ( too small less than 10). Please stop with the revision history. It has nothing to do with geo locations, economic factors. The whole thing started because FCPS didn't like the racial makeup and it engineered a racial balancing policy. FCPS used George Floyd's tragedy - again a racial conflict - to push through the change.

The enacted geo quota and experience factors are proxy to race to achieve that goal.

TJ is the most diverse school FCPS has by many other dimensions. It's just not diverse by a strange definition of race that lumps all Asians into a single category.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.commentary.org/articles/stephen-steinberg/how-jewish-quotas-began/

A fascinating story on how the success of Jews was resented and how they were “put in place” by the dominant establishment.

In the early years of last century, Jews were recent immigrants and prioritized education of their children over everything else.

They were subject to among others things geographical quotas, allegations that their children were peculiar and not “well rounded” and that they were resource hoarders. Laws and policies were implemented at the best of schools to keep Jews out of elite colleges.

It is the same set of forces at play with Asian-Americans. Resentment of the Asian American success is pushing so called “reform” with the express purpose of containing their success. The Jewish community is one of the most successful ones today because they never gave up and never gave in. And so will the Asian Americans.

Not the same set of forces at all.

Jewish people faced real bigotry and were broadly disdained.

For TJ, people think the near non-existence of URMs/low income students is unacceptable. It’s nothing against wealthy Asians (sense of entitlement aside).

Trust me, it is the same forces. In this age of social media, you cannot afford to be blunt so the moves are couched in talk of helping URMs and using innuendo like “pay to play” to suggest Asian Americans don’t believe in fair play. But the methods are the same. Elite colleges put in geographical quotas in high Jewish density areas to have fewer Jewish folks admitted.

The Jewish people were successful in spite of the disdain they faced. They were shut out by geographical quotas and not the bigotry they faced.

They used quotas back then because they were anti-Semitic. No one here is anti-Asian (though those people certainly exists in general).

Today, we think that the TJ should attainable for more people in the county. Having only a handful of wealthy middle schools scoop up all of the seats is way too inequitable.

Just like the anti-Semitic did not wear a label saying anti-Semitic, the anti-Asians don’t wear a label that says Anti-Asian. Action speak louder than words. History will not be forgiving.

“The actions”?

Increasing diversity - economic, racial, special needs, English learners.

And going from 73% to 54% Asian students.

GMAFB.

You are not alone in wanting fewer Asians. Here is Amy Wax, renowned professor of the UPenn Law School.

“[We] have to distinguish mass-immigration, which we’re getting from the Hispanics, south of the border, which I think poses different questions and challenges from the Asian elites that we’re getting,” she said. “It doesn’t mean that the influx of Asian elites is unproblematic. I actually think it’s problematic. …I think it’s because there’s this…danger of the dominance of an Asian elite in this country, and what does that mean? What is that going to mean to change the culture?

“Does the spirit of liberty beat in their breast?” she continued.

Read the article and you will try and understand how this TJ episode resonates with what Asians are feeling in general when it comes to discrimination. Throw-in the increased street crime against Asian Americans and you will understand why your beating the URM drum sounds tone deaf to Asian Americans.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/racist-penn-law-prof-amy-wax-makes-disturbing-claim-us-is-better-off-with-fewer-asians

Wanting more diversity is not anti-Asian.

I guess playing victim (with 54% of the class) makes you feel better.

It is if you define diversity by race and measure diversity by student demographics in terms of race. You are a racist. Own it.

Primarily economic. And geographic. But, yes, if you only have a handful of URMs something is broken.

How they got from "something is broken" to "lets enact racist policies" is the issue here. Just because there is a problem doesn't mean the answer is racism.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.commentary.org/articles/stephen-steinberg/how-jewish-quotas-began/

A fascinating story on how the success of Jews was resented and how they were “put in place” by the dominant establishment.

In the early years of last century, Jews were recent immigrants and prioritized education of their children over everything else.

They were subject to among others things geographical quotas, allegations that their children were peculiar and not “well rounded” and that they were resource hoarders. Laws and policies were implemented at the best of schools to keep Jews out of elite colleges.

It is the same set of forces at play with Asian-Americans. Resentment of the Asian American success is pushing so called “reform” with the express purpose of containing their success. The Jewish community is one of the most successful ones today because they never gave up and never gave in. And so will the Asian Americans.

Not the same set of forces at all.

Jewish people faced real bigotry and were broadly disdained.

For TJ, people think the near non-existence of URMs/low income students is unacceptable. It’s nothing against wealthy Asians (sense of entitlement aside).

Trust me, it is the same forces. In this age of social media, you cannot afford to be blunt so the moves are couched in talk of helping URMs and using innuendo like “pay to play” to suggest Asian Americans don’t believe in fair play. But the methods are the same. Elite colleges put in geographical quotas in high Jewish density areas to have fewer Jewish folks admitted.

The Jewish people were successful in spite of the disdain they faced. They were shut out by geographical quotas and not the bigotry they faced.

They used quotas back then because they were anti-Semitic. No one here is anti-Asian (though those people certainly exists in general).

Today, we think that the TJ should attainable for more people in the county. Having only a handful of wealthy middle schools scoop up all of the seats is way too inequitable.

Just like the anti-Semitic did not wear a label saying anti-Semitic, the anti-Asians don’t wear a label that says Anti-Asian. Action speak louder than words. History will not be forgiving.

“The actions”?

Increasing diversity - economic, racial, special needs, English learners.

And going from 73% to 54% Asian students.

GMAFB.

You are not alone in wanting fewer Asians. Here is Amy Wax, renowned professor of the UPenn Law School.

“[We] have to distinguish mass-immigration, which we’re getting from the Hispanics, south of the border, which I think poses different questions and challenges from the Asian elites that we’re getting,” she said. “It doesn’t mean that the influx of Asian elites is unproblematic. I actually think it’s problematic. …I think it’s because there’s this…danger of the dominance of an Asian elite in this country, and what does that mean? What is that going to mean to change the culture?

“Does the spirit of liberty beat in their breast?” she continued.

Read the article and you will try and understand how this TJ episode resonates with what Asians are feeling in general when it comes to discrimination. Throw-in the increased street crime against Asian Americans and you will understand why your beating the URM drum sounds tone deaf to Asian Americans.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/racist-penn-law-prof-amy-wax-makes-disturbing-claim-us-is-better-off-with-fewer-asians

Wanting more diversity is not anti-Asian.

I guess playing victim (with 54% of the class) makes you feel better.

Oh don’t be coy. We both know the issue at hand is not “wanting more diversity”

Asians want diversity - it helps them too.

The issue at hand is forcing your brand of diversity using unconstitutional social engineering methods. That is the issue.

The issue was the lack of diversity (economic, geographic, racial, EL, etc).

The solution wasn’t ideal but it’s a step in the right direction.

More racism is never a step in the right direction.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.commentary.org/articles/stephen-steinberg/how-jewish-quotas-began/

A fascinating story on how the success of Jews was resented and how they were “put in place” by the dominant establishment.

In the early years of last century, Jews were recent immigrants and prioritized education of their children over everything else.

They were subject to among others things geographical quotas, allegations that their children were peculiar and not “well rounded” and that they were resource hoarders. Laws and policies were implemented at the best of schools to keep Jews out of elite colleges.

It is the same set of forces at play with Asian-Americans. Resentment of the Asian American success is pushing so called “reform” with the express purpose of containing their success. The Jewish community is one of the most successful ones today because they never gave up and never gave in. And so will the Asian Americans.

Not the same set of forces at all.

Jewish people faced real bigotry and were broadly disdained.

For TJ, people think the near non-existence of URMs/low income students is unacceptable. It’s nothing against wealthy Asians (sense of entitlement aside).

Trust me, it is the same forces. In this age of social media, you cannot afford to be blunt so the moves are couched in talk of helping URMs and using innuendo like “pay to play” to suggest Asian Americans don’t believe in fair play. But the methods are the same. Elite colleges put in geographical quotas in high Jewish density areas to have fewer Jewish folks admitted.

The Jewish people were successful in spite of the disdain they faced. They were shut out by geographical quotas and not the bigotry they faced.

They used quotas back then because they were anti-Semitic. No one here is anti-Asian (though those people certainly exists in general).

Today, we think that the TJ should attainable for more people in the county. Having only a handful of wealthy middle schools scoop up all of the seats is way too inequitable.

Just like the anti-Semitic did not wear a label saying anti-Semitic, the anti-Asians don’t wear a label that says Anti-Asian. Action speak louder than words. History will not be forgiving.

“The actions”?

Increasing diversity - economic, racial, special needs, English learners.

And going from 73% to 54% Asian students.

GMAFB.

You are not alone in wanting fewer Asians. Here is Amy Wax, renowned professor of the UPenn Law School.

“[We] have to distinguish mass-immigration, which we’re getting from the Hispanics, south of the border, which I think poses different questions and challenges from the Asian elites that we’re getting,” she said. “It doesn’t mean that the influx of Asian elites is unproblematic. I actually think it’s problematic. …I think it’s because there’s this…danger of the dominance of an Asian elite in this country, and what does that mean? What is that going to mean to change the culture?

“Does the spirit of liberty beat in their breast?” she continued.

Read the article and you will try and understand how this TJ episode resonates with what Asians are feeling in general when it comes to discrimination. Throw-in the increased street crime against Asian Americans and you will understand why your beating the URM drum sounds tone deaf to Asian Americans.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/racist-penn-law-prof-amy-wax-makes-disturbing-claim-us-is-better-off-with-fewer-asians

Wanting more diversity is not anti-Asian.

I guess playing victim (with 54% of the class) makes you feel better.

Oh don’t be coy. We both know the issue at hand is not “wanting more diversity”

Asians want diversity - it helps them too.

The issue at hand is forcing your brand of diversity using unconstitutional social engineering methods. That is the issue.

The issue was the lack of diversity (economic, geographic, racial, EL, etc).

The solution wasn’t ideal but it’s a step in the right direction.

And step in the racist direction as well.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.commentary.org/articles/stephen-steinberg/how-jewish-quotas-began/

A fascinating story on how the success of Jews was resented and how they were “put in place” by the dominant establishment.

In the early years of last century, Jews were recent immigrants and prioritized education of their children over everything else.

They were subject to among others things geographical quotas, allegations that their children were peculiar and not “well rounded” and that they were resource hoarders. Laws and policies were implemented at the best of schools to keep Jews out of elite colleges.

It is the same set of forces at play with Asian-Americans. Resentment of the Asian American success is pushing so called “reform” with the express purpose of containing their success. The Jewish community is one of the most successful ones today because they never gave up and never gave in. And so will the Asian Americans.

Not the same set of forces at all.

Jewish people faced real bigotry and were broadly disdained.

For TJ, people think the near non-existence of URMs/low income students is unacceptable. It’s nothing against wealthy Asians (sense of entitlement aside).

Trust me, it is the same forces. In this age of social media, you cannot afford to be blunt so the moves are couched in talk of helping URMs and using innuendo like “pay to play” to suggest Asian Americans don’t believe in fair play. But the methods are the same. Elite colleges put in geographical quotas in high Jewish density areas to have fewer Jewish folks admitted.

The Jewish people were successful in spite of the disdain they faced. They were shut out by geographical quotas and not the bigotry they faced.

They used quotas back then because they were anti-Semitic. No one here is anti-Asian (though those people certainly exists in general).

Today, we think that the TJ should attainable for more people in the county. Having only a handful of wealthy middle schools scoop up all of the seats is way too inequitable.

Just like the anti-Semitic did not wear a label saying anti-Semitic, the anti-Asians don’t wear a label that says Anti-Asian. Action speak louder than words. History will not be forgiving.

“The actions”?

Increasing diversity - economic, racial, special needs, English learners.

And going from 73% to 54% Asian students.

GMAFB.

You are not alone in wanting fewer Asians. Here is Amy Wax, renowned professor of the UPenn Law School.

“[We] have to distinguish mass-immigration, which we’re getting from the Hispanics, south of the border, which I think poses different questions and challenges from the Asian elites that we’re getting,” she said. “It doesn’t mean that the influx of Asian elites is unproblematic. I actually think it’s problematic. …I think it’s because there’s this…danger of the dominance of an Asian elite in this country, and what does that mean? What is that going to mean to change the culture?

“Does the spirit of liberty beat in their breast?” she continued.

Read the article and you will try and understand how this TJ episode resonates with what Asians are feeling in general when it comes to discrimination. Throw-in the increased street crime against Asian Americans and you will understand why your beating the URM drum sounds tone deaf to Asian Americans.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/racist-penn-law-prof-amy-wax-makes-disturbing-claim-us-is-better-off-with-fewer-asians

Wanting more diversity is not anti-Asian.

I guess playing victim (with 54% of the class) makes you feel better.

It is if you define diversity by race and measure diversity by student demographics in terms of race. You are a racist. Own it.

Primarily economic. And geographic. But, yes, if you only have a handful of URMs something is broken.

How they got from "something is broken" to "lets enact racist policies" is the issue here. Just because there is a problem doesn't mean the answer is racism.

It is in the TJ papers. Keys Gamarra and Braband talked about the time being right to capitalize on the public sentiment as a consequence of George Floyd’s passing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The pro "reform" people need to be honest at least with themselves. This entire exercise is motivated by race.

It all started when the admission result for 2020 was released and showed a break down by race. Black students were TS ( too small less than 10). Please stop with the revision history. It has nothing to do with geo locations, economic factors. The whole thing started because FCPS didn't like the racial makeup and it engineered a racial balancing policy. FCPS used George Floyd's tragedy - again a racial conflict - to push through the change.

The enacted geo quota and experience factors are proxy to race to achieve that goal.

TJ is the most diverse school FCPS has by many other dimensions. It's just not diverse by a strange definition of race that lumps all Asians into a single category.

Most diverse in what category?

There were 0.6% low-income admitted for class of 24. Only 6% from underrepresented schools. Many middle schools had zero students admitted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The pro "reform" people need to be honest at least with themselves. This entire exercise is motivated by race.

It all started when the admission result for 2020 was released and showed a break down by race. Black students were TS ( too small less than 10). Please stop with the revision history. It has nothing to do with geo locations, economic factors. The whole thing started because FCPS didn't like the racial makeup and it engineered a racial balancing policy. FCPS used George Floyd's tragedy - again a racial conflict - to push through the change.

The enacted geo quota and experience factors are proxy to race to achieve that goal.

TJ is the most diverse school FCPS has by many other dimensions. It's just not diverse by a strange definition of race that lumps all Asians into a single category.

Most diverse in what category?

There were 0.6% low-income admitted for class of 24. Only 6% from underrepresented schools. Many middle schools had zero students admitted.

TJ is the most diverse school in the county.

[Anonymous]

That’s as useful as a proclamation as claiming you are the skinniest kid in fat camp.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.commentary.org/articles/stephen-steinberg/how-jewish-quotas-began/

A fascinating story on how the success of Jews was resented and how they were “put in place” by the dominant establishment.

In the early years of last century, Jews were recent immigrants and prioritized education of their children over everything else.

They were subject to among others things geographical quotas, allegations that their children were peculiar and not “well rounded” and that they were resource hoarders. Laws and policies were implemented at the best of schools to keep Jews out of elite colleges.

It is the same set of forces at play with Asian-Americans. Resentment of the Asian American success is pushing so called “reform” with the express purpose of containing their success. The Jewish community is one of the most successful ones today because they never gave up and never gave in. And so will the Asian Americans.

Not the same set of forces at all.

Jewish people faced real bigotry and were broadly disdained.

For TJ, people think the near non-existence of URMs/low income students is unacceptable. It’s nothing against wealthy Asians (sense of entitlement aside).

Trust me, it is the same forces. In this age of social media, you cannot afford to be blunt so the moves are couched in talk of helping URMs and using innuendo like “pay to play” to suggest Asian Americans don’t believe in fair play. But the methods are the same. Elite colleges put in geographical quotas in high Jewish density areas to have fewer Jewish folks admitted.

The Jewish people were successful in spite of the disdain they faced. They were shut out by geographical quotas and not the bigotry they faced.

They used quotas back then because they were anti-Semitic. No one here is anti-Asian (though those people certainly exists in general).

Today, we think that the TJ should attainable for more people in the county. Having only a handful of wealthy middle schools scoop up all of the seats is way too inequitable.

Just like the anti-Semitic did not wear a label saying anti-Semitic, the anti-Asians don’t wear a label that says Anti-Asian. Action speak louder than words. History will not be forgiving.

“The actions”?

Increasing diversity - economic, racial, special needs, English learners.

And going from 73% to 54% Asian students.

GMAFB.

You are not alone in wanting fewer Asians. Here is Amy Wax, renowned professor of the UPenn Law School.

“[We] have to distinguish mass-immigration, which we’re getting from the Hispanics, south of the border, which I think poses different questions and challenges from the Asian elites that we’re getting,” she said. “It doesn’t mean that the influx of Asian elites is unproblematic. I actually think it’s problematic. …I think it’s because there’s this…danger of the dominance of an Asian elite in this country, and what does that mean? What is that going to mean to change the culture?

“Does the spirit of liberty beat in their breast?” she continued.

Read the article and you will try and understand how this TJ episode resonates with what Asians are feeling in general when it comes to discrimination. Throw-in the increased street crime against Asian Americans and you will understand why your beating the URM drum sounds tone deaf to Asian Americans.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/racist-penn-law-prof-amy-wax-makes-disturbing-claim-us-is-better-off-with-fewer-asians

Wanting more diversity is not anti-Asian.

I guess playing victim (with 54% of the class) makes you feel better.

It is if you define diversity by race and measure diversity by student demographics in terms of race. You are a racist. Own it.

Primarily economic. And geographic. But, yes, if you only have a handful of URMs something is broken.

You need to show proof that something us broken. That you don't like something isn't indication that something is broken. And even if something is broken, the solution is not racism.

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Anonymous wrote:That’s as useful as a proclamation as claiming you are the skinniest kid in fat camp.

Then perhaps the skinniest kid in a fat camp is not the best candidate for risky novel surgery of questionable effect.

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Anonymous wrote:The pro "reform" people need to be honest at least with themselves. This entire exercise is motivated by race.

It all started when the admission result for 2020 was released and showed a break down by race. Black students were TS ( too small less than 10). Please stop with the revision history. It has nothing to do with geo locations, economic factors. The whole thing started because FCPS didn't like the racial makeup and it engineered a racial balancing policy. FCPS used George Floyd's tragedy - again a racial conflict - to push through the change.

The enacted geo quota and experience factors are proxy to race to achieve that goal.

TJ is the most diverse school FCPS has by many other dimensions. It's just not diverse by a strange definition of race that lumps all Asians into a single category.

Most diverse in what category?

There were 0.6% low-income admitted for class of 24. Only 6% from underrepresented schools. Many middle schools had zero students admitted.

TJ is the most diverse school in the county.

Yeah, you don’t get to claim that when 30% of the county along either racial or socioeconomic metrics are virtually absent from your demographic.

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If I were the new superintendent coming into the area and seeing how much fighting there is over TJ admissions and hearing about some of the overcrowding in FCPS, I would seriously ask why the school isn’t returned to use as a community school.

Be bold, Dr. Reid! Ask the questions the faux liberals on the School Board don’t raise.