ECNL moving to school year part 2

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I will help out with correct info for the fall.


Age Group Birth Dates
U3 August 1, 2023 - July 31, 2024
U4 August 1, 2022 - July 31, 2023
U5 August 1, 2021 - July 31, 2022
U6 August 1, 2020 - July 31, 2021
U7 August 1, 2019 - July 31, 2020
U8 August 1, 2018 - July 31, 2019
U9 August 1, 2017 - July 31, 2018
U10 August 1, 2016 - July 31, 2017
U11 August 1, 2015 - July 31, 2016
U12 August 1, 2014 - July 31, 2015
U13 August 1, 2013 - July 31, 2014
U14 August 1, 2012 - July 31, 2013
U15 August 1, 2011 - July 31, 2012
U16 August 1, 2010 - July 31, 2011
U17 August 1, 2009 - July 31, 2010
U18 August 1, 2008 - July 31, 2009
U19 August 1, 2007 - July 31, 2008

Same thing but with more detail and the "July 31" lower bound that means nothing because leagues allow playing up has been removed

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 + younger = Senior
11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 + younger = Junior
11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2010 + younger = Sophmore
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2011 + younger = Freshman
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2012 + younger = 8th grade
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2013 + younger = 7th grade
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2014 + younger = 6th grade
9v9 = U12 = 8/1/2015 + younger = 5th grade
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2016 + younger = 4th grade
7v7 = U10 = 8/1/2017 + younger = 3rd grade
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2018 + younger = 2nd grade
4v4 = U8 = 8/1/2019 + younger = 1st grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2020 + younger = kindergarten


So just make up your very own “matrix?” Psycho! You need help.

No, I took all the details and created a matrix that has all the details parents and clubs will need this fall.

I did it because multiple club websites have incorrect info posted and because its confusing to keep everything aligned in your head when only one thing is listed.


Lol, so you admit you made up this matrix?

What are you calling it? I want to tell all the parents tomorrow to look it up.

Yes I admit to taking factual data from multiple sources and aligning them in a single matrix.

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 + younger = Senior
11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 + younger = Junior
11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2010 + younger = Sophmore
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2011 + younger = Freshman
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2012 + younger = 8th grade
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2013 + younger = 7th grade
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2014 + younger = 6th grade
9v9 = U12 = 8/1/2015 + younger = 5th grade
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2016 + younger = 4th grade
7v7 = U10 = 8/1/2017 + younger = 3rd grade
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2018 + younger = 2nd grade
4v4 = U8 = 8/1/2019 + younger = 1st grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2020 + younger = kindergarten
Anonymous
Data has to be correct for it to be useful, reliable.

Like this on and not the above.

Fall 2026

Age Group Birth Dates
U3 August 1, 2023 - July 31, 2024
U4 August 1, 2022 - July 31, 2023
U5 August 1, 2021 - July 31, 2022
U6 August 1, 2020 - July 31, 2021
U7 August 1, 2019 - July 31, 2020
U8 August 1, 2018 - July 31, 2019
U9 August 1, 2017 - July 31, 2018
U10 August 1, 2016 - July 31, 2017
U11 August 1, 2015 - July 31, 2016
U12 August 1, 2014 - July 31, 2015
U13 August 1, 2013 - July 31, 2014
U14 August 1, 2012 - July 31, 2013
U15 August 1, 2011 - July 31, 2012
U16 August 1, 2010 - July 31, 2011
U17 August 1, 2009 - July 31, 2010
U18 August 1, 2008 - July 31, 2009
U19 August 1, 2007 - July 31, 2008
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I will help out with correct info for the fall.


Age Group Birth Dates
U3 August 1, 2023 - July 31, 2024
U4 August 1, 2022 - July 31, 2023
U5 August 1, 2021 - July 31, 2022
U6 August 1, 2020 - July 31, 2021
U7 August 1, 2019 - July 31, 2020
U8 August 1, 2018 - July 31, 2019
U9 August 1, 2017 - July 31, 2018
U10 August 1, 2016 - July 31, 2017
U11 August 1, 2015 - July 31, 2016
U12 August 1, 2014 - July 31, 2015
U13 August 1, 2013 - July 31, 2014
U14 August 1, 2012 - July 31, 2013
U15 August 1, 2011 - July 31, 2012
U16 August 1, 2010 - July 31, 2011
U17 August 1, 2009 - July 31, 2010
U18 August 1, 2008 - July 31, 2009
U19 August 1, 2007 - July 31, 2008

Same thing but with more detail and the "July 31" lower bound that means nothing because leagues allow playing up has been removed

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 + younger = Senior
11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 + younger = Junior
11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2010 + younger = Sophmore
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2011 + younger = Freshman
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2012 + younger = 8th grade
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2013 + younger = 7th grade
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2014 + younger = 6th grade
9v9 = U12 = 8/1/2015 + younger = 5th grade
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2016 + younger = 4th grade
7v7 = U10 = 8/1/2017 + younger = 3rd grade
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2018 + younger = 2nd grade
4v4 = U8 = 8/1/2019 + younger = 1st grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2020 + younger = kindergarten


So just make up your very own “matrix?” Psycho! You need help.

No, I took all the details and created a matrix that has all the details parents and clubs will need this fall.

I did it because multiple club websites have incorrect info posted and because its confusing to keep everything aligned in your head when only one thing is listed.


Lol, so you admit you made up this matrix?

What are you calling it? I want to tell all the parents tomorrow to look it up.

Yes I admit to taking factual data from multiple sources and aligning them in a single matrix.

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 + younger = Senior
11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 + younger = Junior
11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2010 + younger = Sophmore
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2011 + younger = Freshman
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2012 + younger = 8th grade
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2013 + younger = 7th grade
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2014 + younger = 6th grade
9v9 = U12 = 8/1/2015 + younger = 5th grade
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2016 + younger = 4th grade
7v7 = U10 = 8/1/2017 + younger = 3rd grade
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2018 + younger = 2nd grade
4v4 = U8 = 8/1/2019 + younger = 1st grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2020 + younger = kindergarten


The way I read this is kids born in 2020 can try out for u19, is that correct?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Data has to be correct for it to be useful, reliable.

Like this on and not the above.

Fall 2026

Age Group Birth Dates
U3 August 1, 2023 - July 31, 2024
U4 August 1, 2022 - July 31, 2023
U5 August 1, 2021 - July 31, 2022
U6 August 1, 2020 - July 31, 2021
U7 August 1, 2019 - July 31, 2020
U8 August 1, 2018 - July 31, 2019
U9 August 1, 2017 - July 31, 2018
U10 August 1, 2016 - July 31, 2017
U11 August 1, 2015 - July 31, 2016
U12 August 1, 2014 - July 31, 2015
U13 August 1, 2013 - July 31, 2014
U14 August 1, 2012 - July 31, 2013
U15 August 1, 2011 - July 31, 2012
U16 August 1, 2010 - July 31, 2011
U17 August 1, 2009 - July 31, 2010
U18 August 1, 2008 - July 31, 2009
U19 August 1, 2007 - July 31, 2008


This is too clear. Can we add shoe size as an additional dimension?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Data has to be correct for it to be useful, reliable.

Like this on and not the above.

Fall 2026

Age Group Birth Dates
U3 August 1, 2023 - July 31, 2024
U4 August 1, 2022 - July 31, 2023
U5 August 1, 2021 - July 31, 2022
U6 August 1, 2020 - July 31, 2021
U7 August 1, 2019 - July 31, 2020
U8 August 1, 2018 - July 31, 2019
U9 August 1, 2017 - July 31, 2018
U10 August 1, 2016 - July 31, 2017
U11 August 1, 2015 - July 31, 2016
U12 August 1, 2014 - July 31, 2015
U13 August 1, 2013 - July 31, 2014
U14 August 1, 2012 - July 31, 2013
U15 August 1, 2011 - July 31, 2012
U16 August 1, 2010 - July 31, 2011
U17 August 1, 2009 - July 31, 2010
U18 August 1, 2008 - July 31, 2009
U19 August 1, 2007 - July 31, 2008


This is too clear. Can we add shoe size as an additional dimension?

Hahaha pathetic 🤣 😂 🙄 😅 😆
Anonymous
Way better for parents and clubs...

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 + younger = Senior
11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 + younger = Junior
11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2010 + younger = Sophmore
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2011 + younger = Freshman
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2012 + younger = 8th grade
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2013 + younger = 7th grade
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2014 + younger = 6th grade
9v9 = U12 = 8/1/2015 + younger = 5th grade
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2016 + younger = 4th grade
7v7 = U10 = 8/1/2017 + younger = 3rd grade
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2018 + younger = 2nd grade
4v4 = U8 = 8/1/2019 + younger = 1st grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2020 + younger = kindergarten
Anonymous
People have gone off the deep end with this one
Anonymous
You two are cute and made for each other. Those of us that can see next year’s rosters know the truth.
Anonymous
Would like others opinion on something- have a player with an August birthday. Club wants her to continue to play up. Not really giving her the choice to play with her correct grade. Shouldn’t it be the player’s choice? Feel like the club is prioritizing the club/team needs over what is best for our daughter.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Would like others opinion on something- have a player with an August birthday. Club wants her to continue to play up. Not really giving her the choice to play with her correct grade. Shouldn’t it be the player’s choice? Feel like the club is prioritizing the club/team needs over what is best for our daughter.

First when you say playing up do you mean with your daughter's current BY team when we change to SY this fall. Or when you say playing up do you mean playing on the correct grade in school team this fall when SY starts. Its kind of confusing to think about and until SY kicks in this fall you need to be very clear with your definition because playing up means different things to different people.

I'm just going to assume that you mean this fall. Because your kid is an August birthday currently in BY they are playing on a team mostly made up of players a grade older then they are. This fall when we switch to SY if you dont play up your kid will be the one player a grade older than everyone else on the team. In this situation most players would choose to play up on the team with players their grade in school.

If your club isnt allowing Aug birthdays to play up on the team with players their grade in school talk to your coach and DOC. Explain the issue and say that this is very important to you. If the club ignores your request. Go to another club and explain your situation. Most likely they'll offer your kid a spot then and there.

Clubs that wont let players play up on the team thats their grade in school are being dumb. They'll quickly change when players start leaving over it. But arrogance mixed with ignorance sometimes make things take longer to happen.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I will help out with correct info for the fall.


Age Group Birth Dates
U3 August 1, 2023 - July 31, 2024
U4 August 1, 2022 - July 31, 2023
U5 August 1, 2021 - July 31, 2022
U6 August 1, 2020 - July 31, 2021
U7 August 1, 2019 - July 31, 2020
U8 August 1, 2018 - July 31, 2019
U9 August 1, 2017 - July 31, 2018
U10 August 1, 2016 - July 31, 2017
U11 August 1, 2015 - July 31, 2016
U12 August 1, 2014 - July 31, 2015
U13 August 1, 2013 - July 31, 2014
U14 August 1, 2012 - July 31, 2013
U15 August 1, 2011 - July 31, 2012
U16 August 1, 2010 - July 31, 2011
U17 August 1, 2009 - July 31, 2010
U18 August 1, 2008 - July 31, 2009
U19 August 1, 2007 - July 31, 2008

Same thing but with more detail and the "July 31" lower bound that means nothing because leagues allow playing up has been removed

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 + younger = Senior
11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 + younger = Junior
11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2010 + younger = Sophmore
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2011 + younger = Freshman
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2012 + younger = 8th grade
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2013 + younger = 7th grade
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2014 + younger = 6th grade
9v9 = U12 = 8/1/2015 + younger = 5th grade
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2016 + younger = 4th grade
7v7 = U10 = 8/1/2017 + younger = 3rd grade
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2018 + younger = 2nd grade
4v4 = U8 = 8/1/2019 + younger = 1st grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2020 + younger = kindergarten


So just make up your very own “matrix?” Psycho! You need help.

No, I took all the details and created a matrix that has all the details parents and clubs will need this fall.

I did it because multiple club websites have incorrect info posted and because its confusing to keep everything aligned in your head when only one thing is listed.


Lol, so you admit you made up this matrix?

What are you calling it? I want to tell all the parents tomorrow to look it up.

Yes I admit to taking factual data from multiple sources and aligning them in a single matrix.

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 + younger = Senior
11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 + younger = Junior
11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2010 + younger = Sophmore
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2011 + younger = Freshman
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2012 + younger = 8th grade
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2013 + younger = 7th grade
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2014 + younger = 6th grade
9v9 = U12 = 8/1/2015 + younger = 5th grade
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2016 + younger = 4th grade
7v7 = U10 = 8/1/2017 + younger = 3rd grade
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2018 + younger = 2nd grade
4v4 = U8 = 8/1/2019 + younger = 1st grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2020 + younger = kindergarten


The way I read this is kids born in 2020 can try out for u19, is that correct?

Yes, that is how the rules are currently written. There are no limits on how many levels a player can play up.

I get that you're trying to poke holes in the logic. But I didnt make the rules I'm just relaying the rules as they exist in a more consumable format.

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 + younger = Senior
11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 + younger = Junior
11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2010 + younger = Sophmore
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2011 + younger = Freshman
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2012 + younger = 8th grade
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2013 + younger = 7th grade
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2014 + younger = 6th grade
9v9 = U12 = 8/1/2015 + younger = 5th grade
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2016 + younger = 4th grade
7v7 = U10 = 8/1/2017 + younger = 3rd grade
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2018 + younger = 2nd grade
4v4 = U8 = 8/1/2019 + younger = 1st grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2020 + younger = kindergarten
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Would like others opinion on something- have a player with an August birthday. Club wants her to continue to play up. Not really giving her the choice to play with her correct grade. Shouldn’t it be the player’s choice? Feel like the club is prioritizing the club/team needs over what is best for our daughter.

First when you say playing up do you mean with your daughter's current BY team when we change to SY this fall. Or when you say playing up do you mean playing on the correct grade in school team this fall when SY starts. Its kind of confusing to think about and until SY kicks in this fall you need to be very clear with your definition because playing up means different things to different people.

I'm just going to assume that you mean this fall. Because your kid is an August birthday currently in BY they are playing on a team mostly made up of players a grade older then they are. This fall when we switch to SY if you dont play up your kid will be the one player a grade older than everyone else on the team. In this situation most players would choose to play up on the team with players their grade in school.

If your club isnt allowing Aug birthdays to play up on the team with players their grade in school talk to your coach and DOC. Explain the issue and say that this is very important to you. If the club ignores your request. Go to another club and explain your situation. Most likely they'll offer your kid a spot then and there.

Clubs that wont let players play up on the team thats their grade in school are being dumb. They'll quickly change when players start leaving over it. But arrogance mixed with ignorance sometimes make things take longer to happen.


Daughter is a 8th grader currently playing with mostly 9th graders. Club wants her to continue to play on her current team (U16 next year) rather than repeating U15 and playing with her correct grade.

It’s a small club. I know it’s better for the club for her to continue to play with her team but not sure it’s the best thing for her. We are going to check out other clubs.
Anonymous
One of my team's dad asked to my club (MLS Next AD, North Division) this morning about his son:

"Kid born 2012 August 19th, now 7th grade at school. Could he play next season U14?"

Answer: "No, it's not allowed, he will play U15".

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Would like others opinion on something- have a player with an August birthday. Club wants her to continue to play up. Not really giving her the choice to play with her correct grade. Shouldn’t it be the player’s choice? Feel like the club is prioritizing the club/team needs over what is best for our daughter.

First when you say playing up do you mean with your daughter's current BY team when we change to SY this fall. Or when you say playing up do you mean playing on the correct grade in school team this fall when SY starts. Its kind of confusing to think about and until SY kicks in this fall you need to be very clear with your definition because playing up means different things to different people.

I'm just going to assume that you mean this fall. Because your kid is an August birthday currently in BY they are playing on a team mostly made up of players a grade older then they are. This fall when we switch to SY if you dont play up your kid will be the one player a grade older than everyone else on the team. In this situation most players would choose to play up on the team with players their grade in school.

If your club isnt allowing Aug birthdays to play up on the team with players their grade in school talk to your coach and DOC. Explain the issue and say that this is very important to you. If the club ignores your request. Go to another club and explain your situation. Most likely they'll offer your kid a spot then and there.

Clubs that wont let players play up on the team thats their grade in school are being dumb. They'll quickly change when players start leaving over it. But arrogance mixed with ignorance sometimes make things take longer to happen.


Club cannot impose that to your daughter. You just take her to tryouts age bracket that you decide.



Daughter is a 8th grader currently playing with mostly 9th graders. Club wants her to continue to play on her current team (U16 next year) rather than repeating U15 and playing with her correct grade.

It’s a small club. I know it’s better for the club for her to continue to play with her team but not sure it’s the best thing for her. We are going to check out other clubs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Would like others opinion on something- have a player with an August birthday. Club wants her to continue to play up. Not really giving her the choice to play with her correct grade. Shouldn’t it be the player’s choice? Feel like the club is prioritizing the club/team needs over what is best for our daughter.

First when you say playing up do you mean with your daughter's current BY team when we change to SY this fall. Or when you say playing up do you mean playing on the correct grade in school team this fall when SY starts. Its kind of confusing to think about and until SY kicks in this fall you need to be very clear with your definition because playing up means different things to different people.

I'm just going to assume that you mean this fall. Because your kid is an August birthday currently in BY they are playing on a team mostly made up of players a grade older then they are. This fall when we switch to SY if you dont play up your kid will be the one player a grade older than everyone else on the team. In this situation most players would choose to play up on the team with players their grade in school.

If your club isnt allowing Aug birthdays to play up on the team with players their grade in school talk to your coach and DOC. Explain the issue and say that this is very important to you. If the club ignores your request. Go to another club and explain your situation. Most likely they'll offer your kid a spot then and there.

Clubs that wont let players play up on the team thats their grade in school are being dumb. They'll quickly change when players start leaving over it. But arrogance mixed with ignorance sometimes make things take longer to happen.


Daughter is a 8th grader currently playing with mostly 9th graders. Club wants her to continue to play on her current team (U16 next year) rather than repeating U15 and playing with her correct grade.

It’s a small club. I know it’s better for the club for her to continue to play with her team but not sure it’s the best thing for her. We are going to check out other clubs.



Club cannot impose that to your daughter. You just take her to tryouts age bracket that you decide.

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