ECNL moving to school year part 2

[Anonymous]

Or use

U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 - 7/31/2009 ≤ Senior
U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 - 7/31/2010 ≤ Senior
U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 - 7/31/2011 ≤ Senior
U15; 8/1/2011 - 7/31/2012 ≤ Senior
U14; 8/1/2012 - 7/31/2013 ≤ Senior
U13; 8/1/2013 - 7/31/2014 ≤ Senior
U12; 8/1/2014 - 7/31/2015 ≤ Senior
U11; 8/1/2015 - 7/31/2016 ≤ Senior
U10; 8/1/2016 - 7/31/2017 ≤ Senior
U9; 8/1/2017 - 7/31/2018 ≤ Senior
U8; 8/1/2018 - 7/31/2019 ≤ Senior
U7; 8/1/2019 - 7/31/2020 ≤ Senior
U6; 8/1/2020 - 7/31/2021 ≤ Senior

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Or use

U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 - 7/31/2009 ≤ Senior
U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 - 7/31/2010 ≤ Senior
U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 - 7/31/2011 ≤ Senior
U15; 8/1/2011 - 7/31/2012 ≤ Senior
U14; 8/1/2012 - 7/31/2013 ≤ Senior
U13; 8/1/2013 - 7/31/2014 ≤ Senior
U12; 8/1/2014 - 7/31/2015 ≤ Senior
U11; 8/1/2015 - 7/31/2016 ≤ Senior
U10; 8/1/2016 - 7/31/2017 ≤ Senior
U9; 8/1/2017 - 7/31/2018 ≤ Senior
U8; 8/1/2018 - 7/31/2019 ≤ Senior
U7; 8/1/2019 - 7/31/2020 ≤ Senior
U6; 8/1/2020 - 7/31/2021 ≤ Senior

Doesn't even make sense

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or use

U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 - 7/31/2009 ≤ Senior
U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 - 7/31/2010 ≤ Senior
U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 - 7/31/2011 ≤ Senior
U15; 8/1/2011 - 7/31/2012 ≤ Senior
U14; 8/1/2012 - 7/31/2013 ≤ Senior
U13; 8/1/2013 - 7/31/2014 ≤ Senior
U12; 8/1/2014 - 7/31/2015 ≤ Senior
U11; 8/1/2015 - 7/31/2016 ≤ Senior
U10; 8/1/2016 - 7/31/2017 ≤ Senior
U9; 8/1/2017 - 7/31/2018 ≤ Senior
U8; 8/1/2018 - 7/31/2019 ≤ Senior
U7; 8/1/2019 - 7/31/2020 ≤ Senior
U6; 8/1/2020 - 7/31/2021 ≤ Senior

Doesn't even make sense

Why not?

Can you find a rule on the books that a HS senior can't play U16?

Doesn't exist, right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was the poster about showcases and high level tournaments having grad year for juniors/seniors.

I have heard this is definitely going to happen.
What are the exact rules no idea and they are still working on the language that will be used as they don’t want it abused with 20 year old stuff.

The goal of it is to align kids with their grade for tournament purposes only to help make college recruiting more efficient.

If you are mad at about it no reason to argue with me because I don’t make the rules.

This will not be needed once SY happens this fall and Aug birthdays are playing on their correct grade in school team.

This is because when Aug birthdays are playing on their correct grade in school team eveyone on the field is the same grade (graduating year). Which is what college coaches want.

Holdbacks can play HS soccer and attend college camps/ids. They are also welcome to play on the correct age team whatever that is.

Forcing August kids to play grade year but not other months doesn't move the needle for going grade year. To few to make it worth the hassle and you can't verify their grades. No reason why August should play grade but September and July and October and June shouldn't. Unless their is an Aug girl blocking your Sept girl.

So "forcing" Aug birthdays to play against players potentially 13 months older is somehow worse than FORCING correct grade players to play against holdbacks up
to 36 months older?

Just admit that youre a hypocrite.

Telling how you only attack August kids. Almost like there is only one kid you are targeting. One that will play on your DD team next year. Interesting.

Telling how you want to attack all kids playjng on a correct grade team withh players upto 36 months older via allowing holdbacks to play down.

Nope, 12 month window. You want GY, people (not me) telling you showcases going GY is them saying they want it.

Ok 👍 its and Anonymous forum and the guy pushing for GY showcases tries to manipulate numbers and dates all the time. It gets old calling the dubious math out.

Can you cite a post where someone said they are pushing for GY showcases? I haven't seen any. Seems like something you are making up again.

I've only seen the ones pointing that work is being done for showcases to go GY.

And only for juniors and seniors that meet specific age requirements

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was the poster about showcases and high level tournaments having grad year for juniors/seniors.

I have heard this is definitely going to happen.
What are the exact rules no idea and they are still working on the language that will be used as they don’t want it abused with 20 year old stuff.

The goal of it is to align kids with their grade for tournament purposes only to help make college recruiting more efficient.

If you are mad at about it no reason to argue with me because I don’t make the rules.

This will not be needed once SY happens this fall and Aug birthdays are playing on their correct grade in school team.

This is because when Aug birthdays are playing on their correct grade in school team eveyone on the field is the same grade (graduating year). Which is what college coaches want.

Holdbacks can play HS soccer and attend college camps/ids. They are also welcome to play on the correct age team whatever that is.

Forcing August kids to play grade year but not other months doesn't move the needle for going grade year. To few to make it worth the hassle and you can't verify their grades. No reason why August should play grade but September and July and October and June shouldn't. Unless their is an Aug girl blocking your Sept girl.

So "forcing" Aug birthdays to play against players potentially 13 months older is somehow worse than FORCING correct grade players to play against holdbacks up
to 36 months older?

Just admit that youre a hypocrite.

Telling how you only attack August kids. Almost like there is only one kid you are targeting. One that will play on your DD team next year. Interesting.

Telling how you want to attack all kids playjng on a correct grade team withh players upto 36 months older via allowing holdbacks to play down.

Nope, 12 month window. You want GY, people (not me) telling you showcases going GY is them saying they want it.

Ok 👍 its and Anonymous forum and the guy pushing for GY showcases tries to manipulate numbers and dates all the time. It gets old calling the dubious math out.

Can you cite a post where someone said they are pushing for GY showcases? I haven't seen any. Seems like something you are making up again.

I've only seen the ones pointing that work is being done for showcases to go GY.

Same thing + a rumor

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was the poster about showcases and high level tournaments having grad year for juniors/seniors.

I have heard this is definitely going to happen.
What are the exact rules no idea and they are still working on the language that will be used as they don’t want it abused with 20 year old stuff.

The goal of it is to align kids with their grade for tournament purposes only to help make college recruiting more efficient.

If you are mad at about it no reason to argue with me because I don’t make the rules.

This will not be needed once SY happens this fall and Aug birthdays are playing on their correct grade in school team.

This is because when Aug birthdays are playing on their correct grade in school team eveyone on the field is the same grade (graduating year). Which is what college coaches want.

Holdbacks can play HS soccer and attend college camps/ids. They are also welcome to play on the correct age team whatever that is.

Forcing August kids to play grade year but not other months doesn't move the needle for going grade year. To few to make it worth the hassle and you can't verify their grades. No reason why August should play grade but September and July and October and June shouldn't. Unless their is an Aug girl blocking your Sept girl.

So "forcing" Aug birthdays to play against players potentially 13 months older is somehow worse than FORCING correct grade players to play against holdbacks up
to 36 months older?

Just admit that youre a hypocrite.

Telling how you only attack August kids. Almost like there is only one kid you are targeting. One that will play on your DD team next year. Interesting.

Telling how you want to attack all kids playjng on a correct grade team withh players upto 36 months older via allowing holdbacks to play down.

Nope, 12 month window. You want GY, people (not me) telling you showcases going GY is them saying they want it.

Ok 👍 its and Anonymous forum and the guy pushing for GY showcases tries to manipulate numbers and dates all the time. It gets old calling the dubious math out.

Can you cite a post where someone said they are pushing for GY showcases? I haven't seen any. Seems like something you are making up again.

I've only seen the ones pointing that work is being done for showcases to go GY.

Same thing + a rumor

This whole thread started because of rumors. That’s why people including myself stick around. The age group is changing we all know that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or use

U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 - 7/31/2009 ≤ Senior
U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 - 7/31/2010 ≤ Senior
U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 - 7/31/2011 ≤ Senior
U15; 8/1/2011 - 7/31/2012 ≤ Senior
U14; 8/1/2012 - 7/31/2013 ≤ Senior
U13; 8/1/2013 - 7/31/2014 ≤ Senior
U12; 8/1/2014 - 7/31/2015 ≤ Senior
U11; 8/1/2015 - 7/31/2016 ≤ Senior
U10; 8/1/2016 - 7/31/2017 ≤ Senior
U9; 8/1/2017 - 7/31/2018 ≤ Senior
U8; 8/1/2018 - 7/31/2019 ≤ Senior
U7; 8/1/2019 - 7/31/2020 ≤ Senior
U6; 8/1/2020 - 7/31/2021 ≤ Senior

Doesn't even make sense

Why not?

Can you find a rule on the books that a HS senior can't play U16?

Doesn't exist, right?

if you want to be dumb like that schools only allow students to be held back 2 years

[Anonymous]

Actual reality across the country ...

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2007 + younger (May include Senior/Junior)
11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2009 + younger (May include Senior/Junior/Sophomore)
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2010 + younger (May include Junior/Sophomore/Freshman)
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2011 + younger (May include Sophomore/Freshman/8th grade)
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2012 + younger (May include Freshman/8th grade/7th grade)
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2013 + younger (May include 8th grade/7th grade/6th grade)
11v11 = U12 = 8/1/2014 + younger (May include 7th grade/6th grade/5th grade)
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2015 + younger (May include 6th grade/5th grade/4th grade)
9v9 = U10 = 8/1/2016 + younger (May include 5th grade/4th grade/3rd grade)
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2017 + younger (May include 4th grade/3rd grade/2nd grade
7v7 = U8 = 8/1/2018 + younger (May include 3rd grade/2nd grade/1st grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2019 + younger (May include 2nd/grade/1st grade/kindergarten)
4v4 = U6 = 8/1/2020 + younger (May include 1st grade/kindergarten/Pre-school)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Actual reality across the country ...

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2007 + younger (May include Senior/Junior)
11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2009 + younger (May include Senior/Junior/Sophomore)
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2010 + younger (May include Junior/Sophomore/Freshman)
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2011 + younger (May include Sophomore/Freshman/8th grade)
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2012 + younger (May include Freshman/8th grade/7th grade)
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2013 + younger (May include 8th grade/7th grade/6th grade)
11v11 = U12 = 8/1/2014 + younger (May include 7th grade/6th grade/5th grade)
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2015 + younger (May include 6th grade/5th grade/4th grade)
9v9 = U10 = 8/1/2016 + younger (May include 5th grade/4th grade/3rd grade)
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2017 + younger (May include 4th grade/3rd grade/2nd grade
7v7 = U8 = 8/1/2018 + younger (May include 3rd grade/2nd grade/1st grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2019 + younger (May include 2nd/grade/1st grade/kindergarten)
4v4 = U6 = 8/1/2020 + younger (May include 1st grade/kindergarten/Pre-school)

You must have 'watching paint dry' as your top hobby

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was the poster about showcases and high level tournaments having grad year for juniors/seniors.

I have heard this is definitely going to happen.
What are the exact rules no idea and they are still working on the language that will be used as they don’t want it abused with 20 year old stuff.

The goal of it is to align kids with their grade for tournament purposes only to help make college recruiting more efficient.

If you are mad at about it no reason to argue with me because I don’t make the rules.

This will not be needed once SY happens this fall and Aug birthdays are playing on their correct grade in school team.

This is because when Aug birthdays are playing on their correct grade in school team eveyone on the field is the same grade (graduating year). Which is what college coaches want.

Holdbacks can play HS soccer and attend college camps/ids. They are also welcome to play on the correct age team whatever that is.

Forcing August kids to play grade year but not other months doesn't move the needle for going grade year. To few to make it worth the hassle and you can't verify their grades. No reason why August should play grade but September and July and October and June shouldn't. Unless their is an Aug girl blocking your Sept girl.

So "forcing" Aug birthdays to play against players potentially 13 months older is somehow worse than FORCING correct grade players to play against holdbacks up
to 36 months older?

Just admit that youre a hypocrite.

Telling how you only attack August kids. Almost like there is only one kid you are targeting. One that will play on your DD team next year. Interesting.

Telling how you want to attack all kids playjng on a correct grade team withh players upto 36 months older via allowing holdbacks to play down.

Hey, who said in post after post after post that college coaches want to see all the kids from the same grade on the same field and how that made ALL the difference? I mean they'll be playing with kids 36 months and older if they make that college team and already have been if they played HS.

Personally, I like the 12-month window where any younger can play up if actually good enough, but you're the one making these arguments that will open pandora's box.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actual reality across the country ...

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2007 + younger (May include Senior/Junior)
11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2009 + younger (May include Senior/Junior/Sophomore)
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2010 + younger (May include Junior/Sophomore/Freshman)
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2011 + younger (May include Sophomore/Freshman/8th grade)
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2012 + younger (May include Freshman/8th grade/7th grade)
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2013 + younger (May include 8th grade/7th grade/6th grade)
11v11 = U12 = 8/1/2014 + younger (May include 7th grade/6th grade/5th grade)
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2015 + younger (May include 6th grade/5th grade/4th grade)
9v9 = U10 = 8/1/2016 + younger (May include 5th grade/4th grade/3rd grade)
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2017 + younger (May include 4th grade/3rd grade/2nd grade
7v7 = U8 = 8/1/2018 + younger (May include 3rd grade/2nd grade/1st grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2019 + younger (May include 2nd/grade/1st grade/kindergarten)
4v4 = U6 = 8/1/2020 + younger (May include 1st grade/kindergarten/Pre-school)

You must have 'watching paint dry' as your top hobby

Or participating in anonymous soccer forums.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Actual reality across the country ...

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2007 + younger (May include Senior/Junior)
11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2009 + younger (May include Senior/Junior/Sophomore)
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2010 + younger (May include Junior/Sophomore/Freshman)
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2011 + younger (May include Sophomore/Freshman/8th grade)
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2012 + younger (May include Freshman/8th grade/7th grade)
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2013 + younger (May include 8th grade/7th grade/6th grade)
11v11 = U12 = 8/1/2014 + younger (May include 7th grade/6th grade/5th grade)
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2015 + younger (May include 6th grade/5th grade/4th grade)
9v9 = U10 = 8/1/2016 + younger (May include 5th grade/4th grade/3rd grade)
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2017 + younger (May include 4th grade/3rd grade/2nd grade
7v7 = U8 = 8/1/2018 + younger (May include 3rd grade/2nd grade/1st grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2019 + younger (May include 2nd/grade/1st grade/kindergarten)
4v4 = U6 = 8/1/2020 + younger (May include 1st grade/kindergarten/Pre-school)

Reality rainbow indeed.

[Anonymous]

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 = ≤ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 = ≤ Junior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 = ≤ Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 = ≤ Freshman
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 = ≤ 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 = ≤ 7th grade
11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 = ≤ 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 = ≤ 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 = ≤ 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 = ≤ 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 = ≤ 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 = ≤ 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 = ≤ kindergarten

[Anonymous]

You can use the tilde to represent "approximately)

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ~ ≤ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ~ ≤ Junior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ~ ≤ Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ~ ≤ Freshman
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ~ ≤ 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ~ ≤ 7th grade
11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ~ ≤ 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ~ ≤ 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ~ ≤ 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ~ ≤ 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ~ ≤ 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ~ ≤ 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ~ ≤ kindergarten

[Anonymous]

sorry "approximately"