Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m wondering if the democrats on this forum would consider the citizen in this video to be Islamophobic:

This seems completely off topic. Did you mean it for another thread?

The poster is obsessed with Israel and any perceived Muslim sympathy in the US but is blind to how the right feels about Israel and jews.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The bodyguard with the darker shirt seemed to be preparing for something. Checking his watch etc.

He also looks both ways before he makes the arm movements.

Yea it’s suspicious at best. I’m sure he had some convincing reason for the signals.

It’s as if the shot came from his left.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What purportedly “intelligent” moms here are sharing about “conspiracies” makes me very reluctant to allow my children to go on play dates at UMC homes. You people need serious help.

Your assumption that these conspiracy theorists are moms is odd. This is the internet. They could be anyone who googled Charlie Kirk's name.

I am a mom and you can bet if my child was falsely accused like Tyler is being I would fight till the truth came out, even if the real murderer never had to face the consequences. I would make the truth crystal clear to everyone, and the real criminal would have to live knowing that everyone knows it wasn’t my child it was you.

I’m not buying your conspiracy theory that Tyler is the fall guy and not the real killer, but I’ll play along. What would you do if the people setting up your son are among the most powerful people in the world and they’re willing to kill whoever they have to, to sell this story to the public. You can’t keep your other 3 kids safe from them unless you play along. They can get to your family no matter what you do to try to evade them.

How are we allowing something like this to happen? If I had to die defending my innocent child I would.

And you’d risk the lives of your other 3 kids to do so? Because Tyler’s parents have 4 children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“I don’t care that he’s dead.”

“He’s not a hero.”

“He’s a scumbag.”

“He shouldn’t be celebrated.”

This thread is about Charlie Kirk, not MAGA's reaction to Joe Biden's cancer diagnosis.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What purportedly “intelligent” moms here are sharing about “conspiracies” makes me very reluctant to allow my children to go on play dates at UMC homes. You people need serious help.

Your assumption that these conspiracy theorists are moms is odd. This is the internet. They could be anyone who googled Charlie Kirk's name.

I am a mom and you can bet if my child was falsely accused like Tyler is being I would fight till the truth came out, even if the real murderer never had to face the consequences. I would make the truth crystal clear to everyone, and the real criminal would have to live knowing that everyone knows it wasn’t my child it was you.

I’m not buying your conspiracy theory that Tyler is the fall guy and not the real killer, but I’ll play along. What would you do if the people setting up your son are among the most powerful people in the world and they’re willing to kill whoever they have to, to sell this story to the public. You can’t keep your other 3 kids safe from them unless you play along. They can get to your family no matter what you do to try to evade them.

How are we allowing something like this to happen? If I had to die defending my innocent child I would.

And you’d risk the lives of your other 3 kids to do so? Because Tyler’s parents have 4 children.

Yes, I would make everyone aware that my son is innocent and being framed. If someone wanted to murder me for defending the truth so be it. People will see it for what it really is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What purportedly “intelligent” moms here are sharing about “conspiracies” makes me very reluctant to allow my children to go on play dates at UMC homes. You people need serious help.

Your assumption that these conspiracy theorists are moms is odd. This is the internet. They could be anyone who googled Charlie Kirk's name.

I am a mom and you can bet if my child was falsely accused like Tyler is being I would fight till the truth came out, even if the real murderer never had to face the consequences. I would make the truth crystal clear to everyone, and the real criminal would have to live knowing that everyone knows it wasn’t my child it was you.

Good grief.
So, when the trial happens and all the evidence is presented, and FBI agents and other testify to the evidence in court under the threat of perjury, and the defendant has an opportunity to mount a defense... you really think they are going to go with "he was falsely accused?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What purportedly “intelligent” moms here are sharing about “conspiracies” makes me very reluctant to allow my children to go on play dates at UMC homes. You people need serious help.

Your assumption that these conspiracy theorists are moms is odd. This is the internet. They could be anyone who googled Charlie Kirk's name.

I am a mom and you can bet if my child was falsely accused like Tyler is being I would fight till the truth came out, even if the real murderer never had to face the consequences. I would make the truth crystal clear to everyone, and the real criminal would have to live knowing that everyone knows it wasn’t my child it was you.

Good grief.
So, when the trial happens and all the evidence is presented, and FBI agents and other testify to the evidence in court under the threat of perjury, and the defendant has an opportunity to mount a defense... you really think they are going to go with "he was falsely accused?"

I don’t think this will even make it to trial.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What purportedly “intelligent” moms here are sharing about “conspiracies” makes me very reluctant to allow my children to go on play dates at UMC homes. You people need serious help.

Your assumption that these conspiracy theorists are moms is odd. This is the internet. They could be anyone who googled Charlie Kirk's name.

I am a mom and you can bet if my child was falsely accused like Tyler is being I would fight till the truth came out, even if the real murderer never had to face the consequences. I would make the truth crystal clear to everyone, and the real criminal would have to live knowing that everyone knows it wasn’t my child it was you.

I’m not buying your conspiracy theory that Tyler is the fall guy and not the real killer, but I’ll play along. What would you do if the people setting up your son are among the most powerful people in the world and they’re willing to kill whoever they have to, to sell this story to the public. You can’t keep your other 3 kids safe from them unless you play along. They can get to your family no matter what you do to try to evade them.

How are we allowing something like this to happen? If I had to die defending my innocent child I would.

And you’d risk the lives of your other 3 kids to do so? Because Tyler’s parents have 4 children.

Yes, I would make everyone aware that my son is innocent and being framed. If someone wanted to murder me for defending the truth so be it. People will see it for what it really is.

Well, a lot of mothers wouldn’t gamble the lives of their other 3 kids to fight for the one who MAGA is never going to allow to walk free.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What purportedly “intelligent” moms here are sharing about “conspiracies” makes me very reluctant to allow my children to go on play dates at UMC homes. You people need serious help.

Your assumption that these conspiracy theorists are moms is odd. This is the internet. They could be anyone who googled Charlie Kirk's name.

I am a mom and you can bet if my child was falsely accused like Tyler is being I would fight till the truth came out, even if the real murderer never had to face the consequences. I would make the truth crystal clear to everyone, and the real criminal would have to live knowing that everyone knows it wasn’t my child it was you.

Good grief.
So, when the trial happens and all the evidence is presented, and FBI agents and other testify to the evidence in court under the threat of perjury, and the defendant has an opportunity to mount a defense... you really think they are going to go with "he was falsely accused?"

I don’t think this will even make it to trial.

The evidence is overwhelming. But, if the state wants the death penalty, it will have to go to trial.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What purportedly “intelligent” moms here are sharing about “conspiracies” makes me very reluctant to allow my children to go on play dates at UMC homes. You people need serious help.

Your assumption that these conspiracy theorists are moms is odd. This is the internet. They could be anyone who googled Charlie Kirk's name.

I am a mom and you can bet if my child was falsely accused like Tyler is being I would fight till the truth came out, even if the real murderer never had to face the consequences. I would make the truth crystal clear to everyone, and the real criminal would have to live knowing that everyone knows it wasn’t my child it was you.

Good grief.
So, when the trial happens and all the evidence is presented, and FBI agents and other testify to the evidence in court under the threat of perjury, and the defendant has an opportunity to mount a defense... you really think they are going to go with "he was falsely accused?"

I don’t think this will even make it to trial.

Because he’ll plead guilty or because he’ll be dead before this goes to trial?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What purportedly “intelligent” moms here are sharing about “conspiracies” makes me very reluctant to allow my children to go on play dates at UMC homes. You people need serious help.

Your assumption that these conspiracy theorists are moms is odd. This is the internet. They could be anyone who googled Charlie Kirk's name.

I am a mom and you can bet if my child was falsely accused like Tyler is being I would fight till the truth came out, even if the real murderer never had to face the consequences. I would make the truth crystal clear to everyone, and the real criminal would have to live knowing that everyone knows it wasn’t my child it was you.

I’m not buying your conspiracy theory that Tyler is the fall guy and not the real killer, but I’ll play along. What would you do if the people setting up your son are among the most powerful people in the world and they’re willing to kill whoever they have to, to sell this story to the public. You can’t keep your other 3 kids safe from them unless you play along. They can get to your family no matter what you do to try to evade them.

How are we allowing something like this to happen? If I had to die defending my innocent child I would.

And you’d risk the lives of your other 3 kids to do so? Because Tyler’s parents have 4 children.

Yes, I would make everyone aware that my son is innocent and being framed. If someone wanted to murder me for defending the truth so be it. People will see it for what it really is.

Well, a lot of mothers wouldn’t gamble the lives of their other 3 kids to fight for the one who MAGA is never going to allow to walk free.

Are you one of the crazies here who think he is innocent and that he is being framed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What purportedly “intelligent” moms here are sharing about “conspiracies” makes me very reluctant to allow my children to go on play dates at UMC homes. You people need serious help.

Your assumption that these conspiracy theorists are moms is odd. This is the internet. They could be anyone who googled Charlie Kirk's name.

I am a mom and you can bet if my child was falsely accused like Tyler is being I would fight till the truth came out, even if the real murderer never had to face the consequences. I would make the truth crystal clear to everyone, and the real criminal would have to live knowing that everyone knows it wasn’t my child it was you.

I’m not buying your conspiracy theory that Tyler is the fall guy and not the real killer, but I’ll play along. What would you do if the people setting up your son are among the most powerful people in the world and they’re willing to kill whoever they have to, to sell this story to the public. You can’t keep your other 3 kids safe from them unless you play along. They can get to your family no matter what you do to try to evade them.

How are we allowing something like this to happen? If I had to die defending my innocent child I would.

And you’d risk the lives of your other 3 kids to do so? Because Tyler’s parents have 4 children.

Yes, I would make everyone aware that my son is innocent and being framed. If someone wanted to murder me for defending the truth so be it. People will see it for what it really is.

Well, a lot of mothers wouldn’t gamble the lives of their other 3 kids to fight for the one who MAGA is never going to allow to walk free.

Are you one of the crazies here who think he is innocent and that he is being framed?

No, if you read through this exchange, I don’t buy that theory.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The bodyguards failed miserably.

Oh, please. The bodyguard were there to stop people from rushing him or attacking him face to face.
They did not have security for a shooter that was 150 yards away.

Who are the bodyguards though? That day?

Can you please drop this issue about the bodyguards? If you want this information you'll have to find it elsewhere. Like in the many videos of the event, you could look at the obvious bodyguards and then try to figure out who they are if it's so very important to you.

Regardless, after this performance I think they'll need to change fields. Better security would mean Charlie Kirk would still be alive.

The identities and hand signals of the body guards matters tremendously here.

I posted earlier but maybe mod deleted. The company is Echelon or some alternate spelling. I was able to find it easily then…not now because it was an X post. Coincidentally in that post, there was a pic that looked like the tall, baseball cap, signal guy from rally. He was sitting and smiling in an office setting at named company. Black and white logo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What purportedly “intelligent” moms here are sharing about “conspiracies” makes me very reluctant to allow my children to go on play dates at UMC homes. You people need serious help.

Your assumption that these conspiracy theorists are moms is odd. This is the internet. They could be anyone who googled Charlie Kirk's name.

I am a mom and you can bet if my child was falsely accused like Tyler is being I would fight till the truth came out, even if the real murderer never had to face the consequences. I would make the truth crystal clear to everyone, and the real criminal would have to live knowing that everyone knows it wasn’t my child it was you.

Good grief.
So, when the trial happens and all the evidence is presented, and FBI agents and other testify to the evidence in court under the threat of perjury, and the defendant has an opportunity to mount a defense... you really think they are going to go with "he was falsely accused?"

I don’t think this will even make it to trial.

The evidence is overwhelming. But, if the state wants the death penalty, it will have to go to trial.

The evidence is such poor quality. This is terrifying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What purportedly “intelligent” moms here are sharing about “conspiracies” makes me very reluctant to allow my children to go on play dates at UMC homes. You people need serious help.

Your assumption that these conspiracy theorists are moms is odd. This is the internet. They could be anyone who googled Charlie Kirk's name.

I am a mom and you can bet if my child was falsely accused like Tyler is being I would fight till the truth came out, even if the real murderer never had to face the consequences. I would make the truth crystal clear to everyone, and the real criminal would have to live knowing that everyone knows it wasn’t my child it was you.

Good grief.
So, when the trial happens and all the evidence is presented, and FBI agents and other testify to the evidence in court under the threat of perjury, and the defendant has an opportunity to mount a defense... you really think they are going to go with "he was falsely accused?"

I don’t think this will even make it to trial.

Because he’ll plead guilty or because he’ll be dead before this goes to trial?

I think he’ll plead guilty