Why is Blake Lively so overrated?

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone in Hollywood is gross. This guy is at least hot. Look at Harvey Weinstein and his peers these women eagerly doing unspeakable things to get fame and fortune.

So it's ok to abuse women if you're a hot guy? WTF is wrong with you?

You think this Justin guy is hot? I don't. He looks like a Jonas brother. Yuck.

+1. Them and Luigi Mangione. None of these men are good looking.

When I look at Mangione, all I see are those nostrils.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone in Hollywood is gross. This guy is at least hot. Look at Harvey Weinstein and his peers these women eagerly doing unspeakable things to get fame and fortune.

So it's ok to abuse women if you're a hot guy? WTF is wrong with you?

You think this Justin guy is hot? I don't. He looks like a Jonas brother. Yuck.

+1. Them and Luigi Mangione. None of these men are good looking.

When I look at Mangione, all I see are those nostrils.

Yes, it's a pig nose. Can't see past it.

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There was discovery as part of the proceedings.

Can you explain more about that? I came here to ask the same question about how they were able to obtain the texts? I'm just not sure I understand, how can they get those through discovery?

I’m also curious. I’ve handled civil rights administrative complaints in probably a half dozen states other than California. I’ve never heard of subpoenas before unless the state agency decided to file suit on the complainants behalf but it also doesn’t surprise me if California has much more aggressive administrative proceedings.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else believe her and also dislike her? That’s where I am.

She just seems so snotty and smug.

Both. I think she overreacted/distorted the original complaints. I also think that Baldoni and the other guy could have been gross (but not sexually harassing) in doing things like wanting to add additional sex scenes that were not necessary. I think she never wanted Baldoni to be on the film and took advantage of an opening to sideline him. and I think even after being successful in that, she set out to publicly humiliate him right as the film was being marketed. Then I think he went too far in retaliating against all of that, and is likely liable.

I agree that some of the issues in the legal complaint could be overstated - it was written by her lawyers in the service of advocating for their client - but I disagree that stuff like improvising extra physical contact in an intimate scene that she wasn’t expecting, hiring Baldoni’s friend (rather than a real actor) to play her OB and stick his head between her legs during a birth scene, and entering her trailer uninvited when she was undressed is “gross behavior.” It’s sexual harassment and it shouldn’t be tolerated in any workplace.

This stuff is pretty easily verifiable (allegedly multiple witnesses) so if it’s true, I don’t care if her lawyers engaged in a little puffery to describe how egregious it was. It’s bad.

Is it right that there are also allegations that he was talking about her and Ryan’s porn viewing? That’s also wildly inappropriate. I think a lot of actors and other artists just don’t know how to behave in a professional environment. I think I heard SAG was doing trainings after 2017 to try and make sure everyone is on the same page about what’s normal professional behavior.

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Anonymous wrote:How does the NYT have access to the internal texts between Baldoni’s PR team? He looks guilty as hell. I’m just wondering how we are seeing what we are seeing. Were they required to hand over these communications because of the legal proceedings?

The text messages are all in the lawsuit. It's not like NYT had their own investigation

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone in Hollywood is gross. This guy is at least hot. Look at Harvey Weinstein and his peers these women eagerly doing unspeakable things to get fame and fortune.

So it's ok to abuse women if you're a hot guy? WTF is wrong with you?

So much "abuse" and "harassment." You're just parroting Blake's pressure campaign.

And you are clearly parroting Justin’s.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m on Blake’s side, but this whole mess confuses me.

Blake and Ryan had a ridiculous amount of power on this film. She was the big star as well as an executive producer. She and Ryan hired the Deadpool editor to do the final cut, which basically means that they have control of the film.

She was responsible for getting the Taylor Swift song in the movie, and she did all the costumes using her own clothes and her best friends clothes.

Ryan even wrote a scene for the film that colleen Hoover didn’t even know about. Sony also had a lot of power here as main financiers and it’s odd that they have stayed out of the fray.

So it is a good reminder that sexism is still strong in Hollywood. And everyone can be subjected to creeps. But it does seem like the public wants a very black or white story. I think there is probably a lot of nuance here. There are missing pieces about how Ryan and Blake were able to get so many of their demands met, yet, weren’t able to get these creepy producers reprimanded or face consequences until now.

It also seems weird that intimacy coordinators were only brought in after problem surfaced. It’s my understanding due to liability like this that intimacy coordinators are now standards on big productions. Jennifer Aniston waived the intimacy coordinator away for The Morning Show because she and John Hamm have a great relationship she’s old school and didn’t want one, but They are there to avoid this kind of liability and it’s confusing to me why on a big production like this, especially dealing with domestic violence, it was an after thought? And if there were problems with the start between Justin and Blake, one was not brought on as soon as they were going to be any intimate scenes. Seems like there’s a missing piece there too.

And why Sony has been completely staying out of this I don’t know, I just feel like there is more to the story, but I definitely feel like blake did not deserve this take down or to be sexually harassed obviously.

Don’t underestimate the degree to which two weirdos at the top can throw things into chaos. But in general the timeline supports your viewpoint - after several repeated incidents Blake flexed her muscles to demand a list of accomodations to restart filming after the production halted for the writers strike.

What I am confused about is why, after she got what she wanted, Blake coordinated the public freeze-out of Justin?

Do you embrace people who sexually harassed you and stay besties?

if you resolved your complaint and decided to remain on the job, then I think you also behave professionally to finish the job.

Blake wanted to proactively smear Baldoni right when the movie was being released and the question is - why?

Justin still probably retailed inappropriately but Blake started that round, IMO.

Agree and now the bullying against him happening. Everyone is afraid of her because she is right with Taylor Seift and also her husband and their billion dollars.

There is very little bullying happening against him. She is still taking the brunt of it online. He has a pr team really good at getting online and slinging mud. It’s gross but impressive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else believe her and also dislike her? That’s where I am.

She just seems so snotty and smug.

Both. I think she overreacted/distorted the original complaints. I also think that Baldoni and the other guy could have been gross (but not sexually harassing) in doing things like wanting to add additional sex scenes that were not necessary. I think she never wanted Baldoni to be on the film and took advantage of an opening to sideline him. and I think even after being successful in that, she set out to publicly humiliate him right as the film was being marketed. Then I think he went too far in retaliating against all of that, and is likely liable.

I agree that some of the issues in the legal complaint could be overstated - it was written by her lawyers in the service of advocating for their client - but I disagree that stuff like improvising extra physical contact in an intimate scene that she wasn’t expecting, hiring Baldoni’s friend (rather than a real actor) to play her OB and stick his head between her legs during a birth scene, and entering her trailer uninvited when she was undressed is “gross behavior.” It’s sexual harassment and it shouldn’t be tolerated in any workplace.

This stuff is pretty easily verifiable (allegedly multiple witnesses) so if it’s true, I don’t care if her lawyers engaged in a little puffery to describe how egregious it was. It’s bad.

Is it right that there are also allegations that he was talking about her and Ryan’s porn viewing? That’s also wildly inappropriate. I think a lot of actors and other artists just don’t know how to behave in a professional environment. I think I heard SAG was doing trainings after 2017 to try and make sure everyone is on the same page about what’s normal professional behavior.

Yes, the complaint states that he referenced porn and his porn addiction on multiple occasions and also asked her if she watched porn. And then announced her answer (no) to others. And that the other producer showed her (without asking permission or providing any warnings) a video of his wife giving birth while naked, apparently to direct her to act similarly in the birth scene. The examples are really insane.

I agree with you that this stuff crosses the line, even if maybe standards of professional conduct are a little looser in a movie studio vs. in a corporate office. It’s really not acceptable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone in Hollywood is gross. This guy is at least hot. Look at Harvey Weinstein and his peers these women eagerly doing unspeakable things to get fame and fortune.

So it's ok to abuse women if you're a hot guy? WTF is wrong with you?

So much "abuse" and "harassment." You're just parroting Blake's pressure campaign.

And you are clearly parroting Justin’s.

I don’t know who that man is. I have literally never heard of him before this thread. Just reading this thread full of bots and Blake’s planted stories and this scandal it’s all so laughably exaggerated and bogus. Her team seems to be doing what they’re accusing him of x 1000. Harvey’s girl is so offended by sex talk. Give me a freaking break. Who is buying this nonsense?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone in Hollywood is gross. This guy is at least hot. Look at Harvey Weinstein and his peers these women eagerly doing unspeakable things to get fame and fortune.

So it's ok to abuse women if you're a hot guy? WTF is wrong with you?

So much "abuse" and "harassment." You're just parroting Blake's pressure campaign.

And you are clearly parroting Justin’s.

I don’t know who that man is. I have literally never heard of him before this thread. Just reading this thread full of bots and Blake’s planted stories and this scandal it’s all so laughably exaggerated and bogus. Her team seems to be doing what they’re accusing him of x 1000. Harvey’s girl is so offended by sex talk. Give me a freaking break. Who is buying this nonsense?

You are so weird. Why are you here?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone in Hollywood is gross. This guy is at least hot. Look at Harvey Weinstein and his peers these women eagerly doing unspeakable things to get fame and fortune.

So it's ok to abuse women if you're a hot guy? WTF is wrong with you?

So much "abuse" and "harassment." You're just parroting Blake's pressure campaign.

And you are clearly parroting Justin’s.

I don’t know who that man is. I have literally never heard of him before this thread. Just reading this thread full of bots and Blake’s planted stories and this scandal it’s all so laughably exaggerated and bogus. Her team seems to be doing what they’re accusing him of x 1000. Harvey’s girl is so offended by sex talk. Give me a freaking break. Who is buying this nonsense?

You are so weird. Why are you here?

+1

Harvey's girl?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone in Hollywood is gross. This guy is at least hot. Look at Harvey Weinstein and his peers these women eagerly doing unspeakable things to get fame and fortune.

So it's ok to abuse women if you're a hot guy? WTF is wrong with you?

So much "abuse" and "harassment." You're just parroting Blake's pressure campaign.

And you are clearly parroting Justin’s.

I don’t know who that man is. I have literally never heard of him before this thread. Just reading this thread full of bots and Blake’s planted stories and this scandal it’s all so laughably exaggerated and bogus. Her team seems to be doing what they’re accusing him of x 1000. Harvey’s girl is so offended by sex talk. Give me a freaking break. Who is buying this nonsense?

A lot of folks are.

You sound like someone hired based on this text per the article:

"Ms. Nathan soon floated proposals to hire contractors to dominate social media through “full social account take downs,” by starting “threads of theories” and generally working to “change narrative.”

“All of this will be most importantly untraceable,” she wrote.

Ms. Nathan needs to be canceled.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone in Hollywood is gross. This guy is at least hot. Look at Harvey Weinstein and his peers these women eagerly doing unspeakable things to get fame and fortune.

So it's ok to abuse women if you're a hot guy? WTF is wrong with you?

So much "abuse" and "harassment." You're just parroting Blake's pressure campaign.

And you are clearly parroting Justin’s.

I don’t know who that man is. I have literally never heard of him before this thread. Just reading this thread full of bots and Blake’s planted stories and this scandal it’s all so laughably exaggerated and bogus. Her team seems to be doing what they’re accusing him of x 1000. Harvey’s girl is so offended by sex talk. Give me a freaking break. Who is buying this nonsense?

You are so weird. Why are you here?

Harvey Girls? Harvey is in jail for being a disgusting perv not sure why PP keeps bringing that up as if the women did something wrong in that situation.

+1

Harvey's girl?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone in Hollywood is gross. This guy is at least hot. Look at Harvey Weinstein and his peers these women eagerly doing unspeakable things to get fame and fortune.

So it's ok to abuse women if you're a hot guy? WTF is wrong with you?

So much "abuse" and "harassment." You're just parroting Blake's pressure campaign.

And you are clearly parroting Justin’s.

I don’t know who that man is. I have literally never heard of him before this thread. Just reading this thread full of bots and Blake’s planted stories and this scandal it’s all so laughably exaggerated and bogus. Her team seems to be doing what they’re accusing him of x 1000. Harvey’s girl is so offended by sex talk. Give me a freaking break. Who is buying this nonsense?

You are so weird. Why are you here?

Harvey Girls? Harvey is in jail for being a disgusting perv not sure why PP keeps bringing that up as if the women did something wrong in that situation.

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Harvey's girl?

Yes, it's weird and gross and reeks of a poster associated with the campaign of Ms. Nathan's PR firm per the prior post.

[Anonymous]

The narrative Blake seems desperate to change is that she’s talentless, tone deaf, and cruel and treats plebs poorly. And as we saw with Mrs Legend it’s difficult to hawk things like shampoo and pots and pans to proles when they all can’t stand you.

It seems all these aging washed up actresses and models want to create aspirational lifestyle brands like Selena Gomez and Jessica Alba to grift Wall Street billions. To do that you need to be very charismatic and likable, which is a struggle for some…