Mass Deportation: this is going to be expensive

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this more viable than having immigrants work while awaiting adjudication? Increase tracking capabilities and require employers of immigrants to maintain information on them. It will cost a fraction of the money used to construct and maintain these facilities.

Foreign citizens present unlawfully in the United States should not be taking jobs from Americans. It will be far cheaper to deport them all than to pay all the social costs for educating foreigners, giving free/subsidized housing to foreigners, giving free food and welfare benefits intended for Americans to foreign citizens squatting here unlawfully, etc. They all need to go back to their country of citizenship now. The only non-citizens allowed to live/work in the United States are those with valid residence/work permits according to the laws of our country passed by our representatives via our democratic processes. The end.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop lumping all Hispanics together and saying we were all duped. The entire quote from the video on deportation of families is:
“It depends on the family,” Trump said, adding later: “If they come here illegally but their family is here legally, then the family has a choice. The person that came in illegally can go out, or they can all go out together.”

This is what actually happens right now. The choice will be the entire family is deported or the US citizen child can stay with family members/guardians in the US.

No it is if you are an immigrant. It has nothing to do with illegal or legal. You are gone.

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Democrats don't care about the expense. They don't want deportations.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop lumping all Hispanics together and saying we were all duped. The entire quote from the video on deportation of families is:
“It depends on the family,” Trump said, adding later: “If they come here illegally but their family is here legally, then the family has a choice. The person that came in illegally can go out, or they can all go out together.”

This is what actually happens right now. The choice will be the entire family is deported or the US citizen child can stay with family members/guardians in the US.

No it is if you are an immigrant. It has nothing to do with illegal or legal. You are gone.

You are ridiculous. Do you have any idea how many immigrants are in this country? They are not all going to be “gone”.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone been to an airport? Migrants are leaving on their own.

So you can look at an airport passenger and immediately know whether or not they are a migrant, and whether they have a one-way or round trip ticket? Amazing!

I was at an airport recently and lots of Americans were getting on flights to other countries. Americans must be fleeing because of Trump. /sarc

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone been to an airport? Migrants are leaving on their own.

Must be rich migrants. Even the small business owners I know and their employees -- most from Central America -- drive to their countries around Christmas to spend the holidays when work is a little slower. They pack their trucks and vans with items that are hard to get in the country they are visiting.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone been to an airport? Migrants are leaving on their own.

So you can look at an airport passenger and immediately know whether or not they are a migrant, and whether they have a one-way or round trip ticket? Amazing!

I was at an airport recently and lots of Americans were getting on flights to other countries. Americans must be fleeing because of Trump. /sarc

But they were all going to the affluent European countries, right? No was on their way to homestead in Chad or Bangladesh.

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Why are they just talking about illegals? Seem they have changed their tune.

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More than 5.8 million people were admitted under humanitarian parole programs during the Biden admin. That is almost 2% of the entire US population. Most of these people need to go back home. Biden completely abused his presidential authority for this one.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone been to an airport? Migrants are leaving on their own.

So you can look at an airport passenger and immediately know whether or not they are a migrant, and whether they have a one-way or round trip ticket? Amazing!

You can tell when they go through security.

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Anonymous wrote:US housing starts are about 1.4 million units. If we deport 13 million people..., we should be able to buy a couple of years (maybe 3-4) just by virtue of the decreased demand for housing. The only people I really see this hurting are slum landlords in the near term. Perhaps, we can create some jobs for our American young men and women to learn how to build homes over the next few years, build a wall, and then repurpose some of the border patrol agents to construction work.

There's always a way...

Where are all these American young men and women dying to break into construction/manual labor? Also with respect to the comment about 'repurposing' border patrol agents as constructions workers, just...wow. I feel like a greater and greater percentage of posts on this forum read like satire. It's hard to tell what's a real comment and what's said in jest.

MAGA seems to have lost its way. Suspect just too many conflicting positions at this point to justify and defend.

There are plenty of young men willing to do it . They’re just looking for an honest wage.


Women won’t break into manual labor and never have. Even job sites now are filled with illegal alien men, not women. Minus the rare exception most women who come here don’t work and suck out of the system for benefits. My sister deals with this in VA as tons of illegals are in the school systems and the mothers are getting free diapers, food, medial care etc as poor Americans suffer.

So this argument is the democrats saying who’s going to build things just show they want to go back to their Democrat party roots. The party of slavery

I promise, no young white men are going to pic any crops or do landscaping or putting roofs on homes. I bet you even get your kids to clean their rooms, take out the garbage and clean the garbage cans.

You saying this just shows how out of touch you are. You probably live in a lily white UMC liberal enclave. I grew up in flyover country and in my family alone, parents/myself/siblings (all white), we have: 1) worked in a sanitation department job, 2) worked as a crop picker (before the industry was taken over by illegals), 3) worked as a pond installer, 4) worked as a short order cook (me and 2 siblings), 5) worked for a landscaping and tree trimming/cutting company, 6) worked construction, including roof installation. We respectively did many of these jobs as teens, but one of my brothers still works in construction and another for a landscaper (in their 20s). The one brother who used to work as a cook is now in the army. The brother who used to work as a pond installer now works in a factory and earns 6 figures with overtime (no college degree).

Americans ARE willing to do these jobs and HAVE been doing them.

Did you really list a whole bunch of jobs your family did as teens as proof that American adults want these as full time jobs?

I was directly responding to someone who said, and I quote,
“I promise, no young white men are going to pic any crops or do landscaping or putting roofs on homes.”

That is FALSE. Just because you think you’re too good to do those jobs, does not mean that people in the heartland of this country feel the same way.

And just so you know, people like you, with attitudes like yours, are why you lost.

Farmers in the heartland are scared of their crops rotting if Trump follows through, no?

There’s an H-2A visa program precisely so that doesn’t need to happen. Nice try.

I must say, it’s really eye opening to see how the liberal elites think they deserve a brown underclass of noncitizens to “do all the work Americans won’t do”.

NP here. I have mad respect for anyone doing that work. It is not easy, and they certainly aren’t a brown underclass. They are an essential component of our workforce and economy. They put food on our table and a roof over our heads. There have been attempts to get Americans to do these jobs. It hasn’t worked. So, brace yourself for paying $5 for a single apple and construction projects being halted.

These cheap apples and that cheap labor only continue if we allow employers to exploit immigrants with low wages and other substandard treatment.

Is your position that we continue to have this exploited workforce?

Because once we address the horrible practices that pervade undocumented workforces, we’ll end up with expensive apples and costly labor.

But this is the fundamental disconnect of MAGA: complaining about high prices and demanding good wages for manual labor.

What is the answer?

Lower energy prices, drill, baby, drill.

We already producing record output of oil, but according to MAGA, we still have inflation. Why do I have the feeling that come Jan 20, MAGA will start to say that inflation is coming down even as the prices really haven't dropped much. Rather, prices will increase due to Trump tariffs.



https://www.vox.com/climate/24098983/biden-oil-production-climate-fossil-fuel-renewables

So the democrat answer was to raise corporate taxes...because that would never get passed on to the end consumer, right?

And how much do the CEOs make? Bonuses, stock options, etc.

Corporation either pay very little taxes or pay no taxes.

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Anonymous wrote:More than 5.8 million people were admitted under humanitarian parole programs during the Biden admin. That is almost 2% of the entire US population. Most of these people need to go back home. Biden completely abused his presidential authority for this one.

JFC. This is a disgrace.

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Has anyone tried to move to a European country or Canada? I’ve been researching for a few months and it’s virtually impossible without making a significant investment in the country and also learning the language. Here in America anyone can walk across the border and have immediate access to jobs, health care, meals, housing and schools all at the expense of the American taxpayer. They can even break our laws without consequence like the criminal who killed the nursing student in GA. He was arrested three times and released before he killed. Americans paid for his travel, housing and meals while he was here. The current situation is simply unsustainable.

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone tried to move to a European country or Canada? I’ve been researching for a few months and it’s virtually impossible without making a significant investment in the country and also learning the language. Here in America anyone can walk across the border and have immediate access to jobs, health care, meals, housing and schools all at the expense of the American taxpayer. They can even break our laws without consequence like the criminal who killed the nursing student in GA. He was arrested three times and released before he killed. Americans paid for his travel, housing and meals while he was here. The current situation is simply unsustainable.

In the current situation we’re deporting more people than we have in a decade - more than Trump ever did.