LCPS sexual assualt - who is held accountable?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This wasn’t about a transgender girl at all. It was about a boy who snuck into an available, unsupervised space to have sex with a consensual partner, repeatedly. And the last time he met her in this unsupervised space, he raped her.

It had nothing to do with this spectre the right wants to conjure, of a girl being pounced upon by a skirt-wearing man while she is changing a tampon. It was, essentially, date rape…no less rape, but very different than the idea of a predatory man lurking in wait in an unsuspecting girl who thought he was a girl.

Can we at least agree now that bad things are increasingly likely to happen if we knowingly let boys into girls bathrooms/locker rooms?

No one is knowingly letting boys into girls bathrooms and locker rooms. Honestly, you people. How many trans girls do you think are presenting as girls (and possibly taking hormones to prevent the development of secondary sexual characteristics) are doing so to get a peak or to have sex? Literally nothing about this boy raping a girl has anything to do with trans students, nothing at all.

Of course not. Transgender students, especially trans girls, are less safe in boys' bathrooms because, you know, there are boys there. Most parents who are concerned are just asking about how boys (not trans people) will be kept out of girls' bathrooms.

That's it.

[Anonymous]

Of course not. Transgender students, especially trans girls, are less safe in boys' bathrooms because, you know, there are boys there. Most parents who are concerned are just asking about how boys (not trans people) will be kept out of girls' bathrooms.

That's it.

What about "gender fluid?" Can't stop them. Can't stop any boy who says he is a girl. This was brought up with FCPS School Board. No documentation required.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This wasn’t about a transgender girl at all. It was about a boy who snuck into an available, unsupervised space to have sex with a consensual partner, repeatedly. And the last time he met her in this unsupervised space, he raped her.

It had nothing to do with this spectre the right wants to conjure, of a girl being pounced upon by a skirt-wearing man while she is changing a tampon. It was, essentially, date rape…no less rape, but very different than the idea of a predatory man lurking in wait in an unsuspecting girl who thought he was a girl.

Can we at least agree now that bad things are increasingly likely to happen if we knowingly let boys into girls bathrooms/locker rooms?

No one is knowingly letting boys into girls bathrooms and locker rooms. Honestly, you people. How many trans girls do you think are presenting as girls (and possibly taking hormones to prevent the development of secondary sexual characteristics) are doing so to get a peak or to have sex? Literally nothing about this boy raping a girl has anything to do with trans students, nothing at all.

Of course not. Transgender students, especially trans girls, are less safe in boys' bathrooms because, you know, there are boys there. Most parents who are concerned are just asking about how boys (not trans people) will be kept out of girls' bathrooms.

That's it.

In my experience as a high school teacher the only time boys are in girls bathrooms is when a girl has agreed to meet them there for sex. That or they’re in a single stall bathroom. The boys just do not roam into the girls restroom otherwise for any reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When I was assaulted in school, the teacher was in the next room. I didn't know my attacker was an attacker until it happened. We were talking and fine and then next thing we weren't...or I wasn't.

When I was raped I asked a friend to walk me home because I felt unsafe walking home by myself in the dark at night. It was fine, I was fine and it was normal and we were talking and then we weren't and then it was rape.

Neither of those times did I know that the guy would hurt me when he walked next to me. I didn't even know when he got close to me. I didn't know until it happened. No whistle or alarm or anything would have stopped it. Even a scream didn't stop the rape.

A woman was raped on a train in public in Philadelphia this week. People held up their cells and took video and no one called the police.

We can talk all we want about things to make women safe. Rape whistles, or alarms, or bathroom monitors but the truth is we aren't safe. None of those things are going to change that. Women/girls are attacked by friends, in public and private. They are attacked and no one cares.

I don't know how to fix it but I know the solution doesn't lie in giving women more tools to alert folks to an attack because the attack rarely comes with enough notice and when people do know what is happening they rarely care.

Rape is awful and such a huge violation.
I don't know how people can sleep at night when they don't believe the victim.

But just to confirm... the bolded part didn't happen.
The Philadelphia transit authority has cameras all over their trains, so I don't know why they chose to go with such a lie?

https://www.phillymag.com/news/2021/10/25/police-lied-septa-rape/

[Anonymous]

I hate to break it to you guys, but there was absolutely nothing stopping boys from going into the girls bathrooms before this bathroom bill.

And no, teachers do not monitor bathrooms. That's a liability, especially since there are no cameras in there.

My SIL has been a HS teacher for 18 years. She says they catch at least a dozen couples hooking up in bathrooms each year.

I bet you guys use the bathroom next to trans individuals each day and never know. Trans doesn't mean crossdresser.

The two trans teens I know are on hormones to prevent puberty and secondary sexual characteristic growth (adam's apple, facial hair, breasts, etc.).

What will you do when your kids are in college with coed bathrooms? My DS is at a college that has coed dorms, floors, and bathrooms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This wasn’t about a transgender girl at all. It was about a boy who snuck into an available, unsupervised space to have sex with a consensual partner, repeatedly. And the last time he met her in this unsupervised space, he raped her.

It had nothing to do with this spectre the right wants to conjure, of a girl being pounced upon by a skirt-wearing man while she is changing a tampon. It was, essentially, date rape…no less rape, but very different than the idea of a predatory man lurking in wait in an unsuspecting girl who thought he was a girl.

Can we at least agree now that bad things are increasingly likely to happen if we knowingly let boys into girls bathrooms/locker rooms?

Do we know that? Is there data on unisex bathrooms leading to increased incidents of rape? Does that change if you're talking about trans students?

They should just make all of the bathrooms unisex and be done with it.

I take it you don't have daughters.

DP. I have a daughter and I am a woman and I have lived in a number of countries where public bathrooms are unisex and have been for decades, particularly in Northern Europe, so I don't get the whole bathroom issue. As a woman, I know that I am potentially unsafe in a lot of spaces because of predatory men--parking lots, elevators, parks, dark streets, alleyways, and unlocked public bathrooms of any kind. My daughter is a freshman in college and I constantly have to remind her not to walk back to her dorm alone in the dark, not to do her laundry when she is alone in the room, to be aware of her surroundings when alone in parking lots and other public spaces, etc. etc. etc. Bathrooms are the least of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Remember when people said this exact scenario would never happen?

Because it did not. He was not considered trans or gender fluid. This is the misconception and it's being used as a political tool. It was an assault. Nothing to do with transgender.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would FOIA request records of who certain books - who checked them out.

Such a horrifying story. Reminds me of the poor girl who was gang raped in a bathroom in Moco a few years ago.

Girls deserve safe spaces at school. We can do better to protect kids from violence at school. This trend is a crisis.

This is also misinformation. There wasn't a gang rape. No case.


The ‘Rockville rape case’ erupted as national news. It quietly ended Friday.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/the-rockville-rape-case-erupted-as-national-news-it-quietly-ended-friday/2017/10/20/f75dacc0-b5c1-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html

[Anonymous]

Father of another parent had a nice list of other sexual assault cover ups for the Loudoun county school board and Superintendent, including moving other students around.

[Anonymous]

^^ Father of another STUDENT. Sorry

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would FOIA request records of who certain books - who checked them out.

Such a horrifying story. Reminds me of the poor girl who was gang raped in a bathroom in Moco a few years ago.

Girls deserve safe spaces at school. We can do better to protect kids from violence at school. This trend is a crisis.

This is also misinformation. There wasn't a gang rape. No case.


The ‘Rockville rape case’ erupted as national news. It quietly ended Friday.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/the-rockville-rape-case-erupted-as-national-news-it-quietly-ended-friday/2017/10/20/f75dacc0-b5c1-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html

Here's another article :
There was no crime.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/crime/bs-md-rockville-rape-charges-20170505-story.html

[Anonymous]

Again, I repeat, in all my years as a high school teacher, the ONLY time boys go into girls bathrooms is when a girl has agreed to meet them there for sex. They don’t go to lurk in the stalls and peep or beat anyone up. They go to the boys bathroom to hang out and vape and fight. If they’re in the girls bathroom it’s because a girl agrees to meet them there. Even though it did turn into a rape, the Stone Bridge victim AGREED to meet the perpetrator in the girls restroom. He didn’t sneak in there by complete surprise. It was a planned meeting that turned bad.

There’s no specific need to “prevent boys from going in” because they don’t. What there IS a need for is preventing boys from raping girls, which they do anywhere that is advantageous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^ Father of another STUDENT. Sorry

Probably mean grandfather. And how can you have a PRIVATE meeting at a fundraiser? If they were up to no good wouldn’t it be in a more discrete place?

[Anonymous]

Maybe having dress codes, clear rules about who belongs in men and women’s bathrooms, and schools boards and superintendents who didn’t lie to parents about when they were on notice on assaults weren’t such bad ideas after all.

We’ve now seen the opposite and it’s not a good look.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Again, I repeat, in all my years as a high school teacher, the ONLY time boys go into girls bathrooms is when a girl has agreed to meet them there for sex. They don’t go to lurk in the stalls and peep or beat anyone up. They go to the boys bathroom to hang out and vape and fight. If they’re in the girls bathroom it’s because a girl agrees to meet them there. Even though it did turn into a rape, the Stone Bridge victim AGREED to meet the perpetrator in the girls restroom. He didn’t sneak in there by complete surprise. It was a planned meeting that turned bad.

There’s no specific need to “prevent boys from going in” because they don’t. What there IS a need for is preventing boys from raping girls, which they do anywhere that is advantageous.

Well-said and well-explained. But those using this rape as a political agenda won’t pay attention to the actual state of things.