ECNL moving to school year part 2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok heres a better version

8/1/2009 and younger = Senior
8/1/2009 and younger = Junior

8/1/2011 and younger = Sophmore
8/1/2012 and younger = Freshman
8/1/2013 and younger = 8th
8/1/2014 and younger = 7th
8/1/2015 and younger = 6th
8/1/2016 and younger = 5th
8/1/2017 and younger = 4th
8/1/2018 and younger = 3rd
8/1/2019 and younger = 2nd
8/1/2020 and younger = 1st
8/1/2021 and younger = kindergarten

No

My fall bday 2011 will be a 9th grader next fall, not a sophomore.
You keep trying though, you’ll get it eventually!

Yeah my oct 2011 will be a freshman
What the hell is this anyway….so dumb

here you go

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 and younger = Senior
11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 and younger = Junior

11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2010 and younger = Sophmore
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2011 and younger = Freshman
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2012 and younger = 8th grade
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2013 and younger = 7th grade
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2014 and younger = 6th grade
9v9 = U12 = 8/1/2015 and younger = 5th grade
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2016 and younger = 4th grade
7v7 = U10 = 8/1/2017 and younger = 3rd grade
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2018 and younger = 2nd grade
4v4 = U8 = 8/1/2019 and younger = 1st grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2020 and younger = kindergarten

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok heres a better version

8/1/2009 and younger = Senior
8/1/2009 and younger = Junior

8/1/2011 and younger = Sophmore
8/1/2012 and younger = Freshman
8/1/2013 and younger = 8th
8/1/2014 and younger = 7th
8/1/2015 and younger = 6th
8/1/2016 and younger = 5th
8/1/2017 and younger = 4th
8/1/2018 and younger = 3rd
8/1/2019 and younger = 2nd
8/1/2020 and younger = 1st
8/1/2021 and younger = kindergarten

Just so I'm clear, are you saying someone born in 2021 could be a senior in high school with the 2009s? They surely would qualify based on 8/1/2009 and younger.

Serious question - if this is all about grades. Why didn't they just make it grade year instead of using dates?

I'm saying that when SY is started this fall if playing up is allowed this means the lower bound of 7/31 is unnecessary. I dont know how you got that a 2021 could be a senior in high school. Everything is defined below.

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 and younger = Senior
11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 and younger = Junior

11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2010 and younger = Sophmore
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2011 and younger = Freshman
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2012 and younger = 8th grade
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2013 and younger = 7th grade
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2014 and younger = 6th grade
9v9 = U12 = 8/1/2015 and younger = 5th grade
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2016 and younger = 4th grade
7v7 = U10 = 8/1/2017 and younger = 3rd grade
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2018 and younger = 2nd grade
4v4 = U8 = 8/1/2019 and younger = 1st grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2020 and younger = kindergarten

Assuming we're trying to make soccer and school lineup exactly, and everyone younger than 2008 can be u18 then I assume everyone younger than 2008 could be a senior. Maybe a Doogie Howser type of situation.

Its obviously for this Fall when SY starts.

I like the decider ring

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok heres a better version

8/1/2009 and younger = Senior
8/1/2009 and younger = Junior

8/1/2011 and younger = Sophmore
8/1/2012 and younger = Freshman
8/1/2013 and younger = 8th
8/1/2014 and younger = 7th
8/1/2015 and younger = 6th
8/1/2016 and younger = 5th
8/1/2017 and younger = 4th
8/1/2018 and younger = 3rd
8/1/2019 and younger = 2nd
8/1/2020 and younger = 1st
8/1/2021 and younger = kindergarten

Just so I'm clear, are you saying someone born in 2021 could be a senior in high school with the 2009s? They surely would qualify based on 8/1/2009 and younger.

Serious question - if this is all about grades. Why didn't they just make it grade year instead of using dates?

Because it's not about school grade and never was and never will be

[Anonymous]

The correct one or go to the calculator.

Youth soccer age groups fall 2026

Fall 2026 Age Group Matrix (Birthdate Range)
U7: Aug 1, 2019 – Jul 31, 2020
U8: Aug 1, 2018 – Jul 31, 2019
U9: Aug 1, 2017 – Jul 31, 2018
U10: Aug 1, 2016 – Jul 31, 2017
U11: Aug 1, 2015 – Jul 31, 2016
U12: Aug 1, 2014 – Jul 31, 2015
U13: Aug 1, 2013 – Jul 31, 2014
U14: Aug 1, 2012 – Jul 31, 2013
U15: Aug 1, 2011 – Jul 31, 2012
U16: Aug 1, 2010 – Jul 31, 2011
U17: Aug 1, 2009 – Jul 31, 2010
U18: Aug 1, 2008 – Jul 31, 2009
U19: Aug 1, 2007 – Jul 31, 2008

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:why won't this thread die already? and yes i recognize the irony that i am continuing this thread by commenting on it. but seriously, the age change is happening and it is going to be whatever it is going to be for individual aug 1-dec 31 kids, as determined by each kid's individual club, so can we all just move on to arguing about other stuff?

The issue is clubs are dumb and arrogant. The people at leagues are even more dumb and arrogant. Parents need to call them out or they'll make poor decisions.

The age guy is exploiting the situation because he wants to play down and if more parents are doing it with him he wont look as weird. He doesnt care that Aug birthdays playing down a grade will makes them misaligned with level played in club and grade in school which will screw players over when college coaches are looking to recruit them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok heres a better version

8/1/2009 and younger = Senior
8/1/2009 and younger = Junior

8/1/2011 and younger = Sophmore
8/1/2012 and younger = Freshman
8/1/2013 and younger = 8th
8/1/2014 and younger = 7th
8/1/2015 and younger = 6th
8/1/2016 and younger = 5th
8/1/2017 and younger = 4th
8/1/2018 and younger = 3rd
8/1/2019 and younger = 2nd
8/1/2020 and younger = 1st
8/1/2021 and younger = kindergarten

Just so I'm clear, are you saying someone born in 2021 could be a senior in high school with the 2009s? They surely would qualify based on 8/1/2009 and younger.

Serious question - if this is all about grades. Why didn't they just make it grade year instead of using dates?

Because it's not about school grade and never was and never will be

Yet the entire BY to Szy change was predicated on less trapped in a grade above players.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why won't this thread die already? and yes i recognize the irony that i am continuing this thread by commenting on it. but seriously, the age change is happening and it is going to be whatever it is going to be for individual aug 1-dec 31 kids, as determined by each kid's individual club, so can we all just move on to arguing about other stuff?

The issue is clubs are dumb and arrogant. The people at leagues are even more dumb and arrogant. Parents need to call them out or they'll make poor decisions.

The age guy is exploiting the situation because he wants to play down and if more parents are doing it with him he wont look as weird. He doesnt care that Aug birthdays playing down a grade will makes them misaligned with level played in club and grade in school which will screw players over when college coaches are looking to recruit them.

Only calendar age groups exist
School grade groups do not exist

Can't have misalignment with a single entity

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The correct one or go to the calculator.

Youth soccer age groups fall 2026

Fall 2026 Age Group Matrix (Birthdate Range)
U7: Aug 1, 2019 – Jul 31, 2020
U8: Aug 1, 2018 – Jul 31, 2019
U9: Aug 1, 2017 – Jul 31, 2018
U10: Aug 1, 2016 – Jul 31, 2017
U11: Aug 1, 2015 – Jul 31, 2016
U12: Aug 1, 2014 – Jul 31, 2015
U13: Aug 1, 2013 – Jul 31, 2014
U14: Aug 1, 2012 – Jul 31, 2013
U15: Aug 1, 2011 – Jul 31, 2012
U16: Aug 1, 2010 – Jul 31, 2011
U17: Aug 1, 2009 – Jul 31, 2010
U18: Aug 1, 2008 – Jul 31, 2009
U19: Aug 1, 2007 – Jul 31, 2008

Matrix that actually has the info people need

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 + younger = Senior
11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 + younger = Junior
11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2010 + younger = Sophmore
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2011 + younger = Freshman
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2012 + younger = 8th grade
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2013 + younger = 7th grade
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2014 + younger = 6th grade
9v9 = U12 = 8/1/2015 + younger = 5th grade
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2016 + younger = 4th grade
7v7 = U10 = 8/1/2017 + younger = 3rd grade
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2018 + younger = 2nd grade
4v4 = U8 = 8/1/2019 + younger = 1st grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2020 + younger = kindergarten

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why won't this thread die already? and yes i recognize the irony that i am continuing this thread by commenting on it. but seriously, the age change is happening and it is going to be whatever it is going to be for individual aug 1-dec 31 kids, as determined by each kid's individual club, so can we all just move on to arguing about other stuff?

The issue is clubs are dumb and arrogant. The people at leagues are even more dumb and arrogant. Parents need to call them out or they'll make poor decisions.

The age guy is exploiting the situation because he wants to play down and if more parents are doing it with him he wont look as weird. He doesnt care that Aug birthdays playing down a grade will makes them misaligned with level played in club and grade in school which will screw players over when college coaches are looking to recruit them.

Except college coaches told clubs they don't care what age groups recruits are in. You are inventing a problem that doesn't exist so no, leagues and clubs aren't going to try to fix something that doesn't exist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The correct one or go to the calculator.

Youth soccer age groups fall 2026

Fall 2026 Age Group Matrix (Birthdate Range)
U7: Aug 1, 2019 – Jul 31, 2020
U8: Aug 1, 2018 – Jul 31, 2019
U9: Aug 1, 2017 – Jul 31, 2018
U10: Aug 1, 2016 – Jul 31, 2017
U11: Aug 1, 2015 – Jul 31, 2016
U12: Aug 1, 2014 – Jul 31, 2015
U13: Aug 1, 2013 – Jul 31, 2014
U14: Aug 1, 2012 – Jul 31, 2013
U15: Aug 1, 2011 – Jul 31, 2012
U16: Aug 1, 2010 – Jul 31, 2011
U17: Aug 1, 2009 – Jul 31, 2010
U18: Aug 1, 2008 – Jul 31, 2009
U19: Aug 1, 2007 – Jul 31, 2008

Matrix that actually has the info people need

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 + younger = Senior
11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 + younger = Junior
11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2010 + younger = Sophmore
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2011 + younger = Freshman
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2012 + younger = 8th grade
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2013 + younger = 7th grade
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2014 + younger = 6th grade
9v9 = U12 = 8/1/2015 + younger = 5th grade
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2016 + younger = 4th grade
7v7 = U10 = 8/1/2017 + younger = 3rd grade
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2018 + younger = 2nd grade
4v4 = U8 = 8/1/2019 + younger = 1st grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2020 + younger = kindergarten

Nobody needs a table of wrong data. You sure you got a kid playing soccer?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The correct one or go to the calculator.

Youth soccer age groups fall 2026

Fall 2026 Age Group Matrix (Birthdate Range)
U7: Aug 1, 2019 – Jul 31, 2020
U8: Aug 1, 2018 – Jul 31, 2019
U9: Aug 1, 2017 – Jul 31, 2018
U10: Aug 1, 2016 – Jul 31, 2017
U11: Aug 1, 2015 – Jul 31, 2016
U12: Aug 1, 2014 – Jul 31, 2015
U13: Aug 1, 2013 – Jul 31, 2014
U14: Aug 1, 2012 – Jul 31, 2013
U15: Aug 1, 2011 – Jul 31, 2012
U16: Aug 1, 2010 – Jul 31, 2011
U17: Aug 1, 2009 – Jul 31, 2010
U18: Aug 1, 2008 – Jul 31, 2009
U19: Aug 1, 2007 – Jul 31, 2008

Matrix that actually has the info people need

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 + younger = Senior
11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 + younger = Junior
11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2010 + younger = Sophmore
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2011 + younger = Freshman
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2012 + younger = 8th grade
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2013 + younger = 7th grade
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2014 + younger = 6th grade
9v9 = U12 = 8/1/2015 + younger = 5th grade
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2016 + younger = 4th grade
7v7 = U10 = 8/1/2017 + younger = 3rd grade
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2018 + younger = 2nd grade
4v4 = U8 = 8/1/2019 + younger = 1st grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2020 + younger = kindergarten

Nobody needs a table of wrong data. You sure you got a kid playing soccer?

Looks 100% correct to me. What do you see thats wrong?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why won't this thread die already? and yes i recognize the irony that i am continuing this thread by commenting on it. but seriously, the age change is happening and it is going to be whatever it is going to be for individual aug 1-dec 31 kids, as determined by each kid's individual club, so can we all just move on to arguing about other stuff?

The issue is clubs are dumb and arrogant. The people at leagues are even more dumb and arrogant. Parents need to call them out or they'll make poor decisions.

The age guy is exploiting the situation because he wants to play down and if more parents are doing it with him he wont look as weird. He doesnt care that Aug birthdays playing down a grade will makes them misaligned with level played in club and grade in school which will screw players over when college coaches are looking to recruit them.

Except college coaches told clubs they don't care what age groups recruits are in. You are inventing a problem that doesn't exist so no, leagues and clubs aren't going to try to fix something that doesn't exist.

Why do you just repeat the same wrong statements. College coaches only care about a players graduating year or grade in school. Which if parents followed your advice would lead Aug birthdays to being misaligned between level played in club and grade in school. College Coaches will ignore this type of player. Can you address the issue by attending oollege camps? Maybe but why even play club soccer if you plan to get noticed at college id camps not club events?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The correct one or go to the calculator.

Youth soccer age groups fall 2026

Fall 2026 Age Group Matrix (Birthdate Range)
U7: Aug 1, 2019 – Jul 31, 2020
U8: Aug 1, 2018 – Jul 31, 2019
U9: Aug 1, 2017 – Jul 31, 2018
U10: Aug 1, 2016 – Jul 31, 2017
U11: Aug 1, 2015 – Jul 31, 2016
U12: Aug 1, 2014 – Jul 31, 2015
U13: Aug 1, 2013 – Jul 31, 2014
U14: Aug 1, 2012 – Jul 31, 2013
U15: Aug 1, 2011 – Jul 31, 2012
U16: Aug 1, 2010 – Jul 31, 2011
U17: Aug 1, 2009 – Jul 31, 2010
U18: Aug 1, 2008 – Jul 31, 2009
U19: Aug 1, 2007 – Jul 31, 2008

Matrix that actually has the info people need

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 + younger = Senior
11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 + younger = Junior
11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2010 + younger = Sophmore
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2011 + younger = Freshman
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2012 + younger = 8th grade
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2013 + younger = 7th grade
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2014 + younger = 6th grade
9v9 = U12 = 8/1/2015 + younger = 5th grade
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2016 + younger = 4th grade
7v7 = U10 = 8/1/2017 + younger = 3rd grade
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2018 + younger = 2nd grade
4v4 = U8 = 8/1/2019 + younger = 1st grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2020 + younger = kindergarten

Soooo much better

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why won't this thread die already? and yes i recognize the irony that i am continuing this thread by commenting on it. but seriously, the age change is happening and it is going to be whatever it is going to be for individual aug 1-dec 31 kids, as determined by each kid's individual club, so can we all just move on to arguing about other stuff?

The issue is clubs are dumb and arrogant. The people at leagues are even more dumb and arrogant. Parents need to call them out or they'll make poor decisions.

The age guy is exploiting the situation because he wants to play down and if more parents are doing it with him he wont look as weird. He doesnt care that Aug birthdays playing down a grade will makes them misaligned with level played in club and grade in school which will screw players over when college coaches are looking to recruit them.

How is this all your problem? How do you benefit if Sept kids become the oldest? If you have an August kid, just do what is right be your kid. No need to post incessantly when all the decisions have been made.

Leagues going 8/1-7/31 except MLSN1, local clubs as always generally restrict playing up to a few, the best players. The last last useful bit on the thread was Bethesda not forcing kids to play up and mention they don't care about grades. This is issue is finalized.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why won't this thread die already? and yes i recognize the irony that i am continuing this thread by commenting on it. but seriously, the age change is happening and it is going to be whatever it is going to be for individual aug 1-dec 31 kids, as determined by each kid's individual club, so can we all just move on to arguing about other stuff?

The issue is clubs are dumb and arrogant. The people at leagues are even more dumb and arrogant. Parents need to call them out or they'll make poor decisions.

The age guy is exploiting the situation because he wants to play down and if more parents are doing it with him he wont look as weird. He doesnt care that Aug birthdays playing down a grade will makes them misaligned with level played in club and grade in school which will screw players over when college coaches are looking to recruit them.

Except college coaches told clubs they don't care what age groups recruits are in. You are inventing a problem that doesn't exist so no, leagues and clubs aren't going to try to fix something that doesn't exist.

Why do you just repeat the same wrong statements. College coaches only care about a players graduating year or grade in school. Which if parents followed your advice would lead Aug birthdays to being misaligned between level played in club and grade in school. College Coaches will ignore this type of player. Can you address the issue by attending oollege camps? Maybe but why even play club soccer if you plan to get noticed at college id camps not club events?

Very clear, no spin.

Eastside

https://www.eastsidefc.org/agegroups

Will this impact college recruiting?
The new two-year age group structure will not negatively impact college recruiting. College coaches evaluate players based on their performance, development, and potential—not the exact age grouping of their club team.