ECNL moving to school year part 2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fall 2026 Grade matrix with dumb july 31 date that doesnt matter.
2nd grade = U7: Aug 1, 2019 – Jul 31, 2020
3rd grade = U8: Aug 1, 2018 – Jul 31, 2019
4th grade = U9: Aug 1, 2017 – Jul 31, 2018
5th grade = U10: Aug 1, 2016 – Jul 31, 2017
6th grade = U11: Aug 1, 2015 – Jul 31, 2016
7th grade = U12: Aug 1, 2014 – Jul 31, 2015
8th grade = U13: Aug 1, 2013 – Jul 31, 2014
9th grade = U14: Aug 1, 2012 – Jul 31, 2013
Freshman = U15: Aug 1, 2011 – Jul 31, 2012
Sophmore = U16: Aug 1, 2010 – Jul 31, 2011
Junior = U17: Aug 1, 2009 – Jul 31, 2010
Senior = U18: Aug 1, 2008 – Jul 31, 2009
Senior = U19: Aug 1, 2007 – Jul 31, 2008

Adding grade in school makes this so much easier to understand.

I do agree the Jul 31 date isn't needed. Why add it if players can play up? Seems odd.

Because if you don't have 7/31 then you will have a single tryout with 500 kids ranging from 8 year olds to 18. Might be harder for the club to manage? I can see the conflict.

Head coach: that 8 year old seems like he's got a lot of potential, we should put him on our top u19 team.
Assistant: don't you think he's too small and this could be dangerous?
Head coach: don't be silly, remember, the 7/31 lower bound is useless and isn't needed
Assistant: makes sense, should we put that sophomore in our u9 team? I think he will crush it
Head coach: there you go being silly again, the 8/1 upper bound is needed, it's just the 7/31 lower bound is not needed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ok heres a better version

8/1/2009 and younger = Senior
8/1/2009 and younger = Junior

8/1/2011 and younger = Sophmore
8/1/2012 and younger = Freshman
8/1/2013 and younger = 8th
8/1/2014 and younger = 7th
8/1/2015 and younger = 6th
8/1/2016 and younger = 5th
8/1/2017 and younger = 4th
8/1/2018 and younger = 3rd
8/1/2019 and younger = 2nd
8/1/2020 and younger = 1st
8/1/2021 and younger = kindergarten

Just so I'm clear, are you saying someone born in 2021 could be a senior in high school with the 2009s? They surely would qualify based on 8/1/2009 and younger.

Serious question - if this is all about grades. Why didn't they just make it grade year instead of using dates?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ok heres a better version

8/1/2009 and younger = Senior
8/1/2009 and younger = Junior

8/1/2011 and younger = Sophmore
8/1/2012 and younger = Freshman
8/1/2013 and younger = 8th
8/1/2014 and younger = 7th
8/1/2015 and younger = 6th
8/1/2016 and younger = 5th
8/1/2017 and younger = 4th
8/1/2018 and younger = 3rd
8/1/2019 and younger = 2nd
8/1/2020 and younger = 1st
8/1/2021 and younger = kindergarten

So seniors and juniors are in the same age group? What happened to the category '8/1/2010 and younger'. Why are they excluded? Gee, this is very difficult to manage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok heres a better version

8/1/2009 and younger = Senior
8/1/2009 and younger = Junior

8/1/2011 and younger = Sophmore
8/1/2012 and younger = Freshman
8/1/2013 and younger = 8th
8/1/2014 and younger = 7th
8/1/2015 and younger = 6th
8/1/2016 and younger = 5th
8/1/2017 and younger = 4th
8/1/2018 and younger = 3rd
8/1/2019 and younger = 2nd
8/1/2020 and younger = 1st
8/1/2021 and younger = kindergarten

So seniors and juniors are in the same age group? What happened to the category '8/1/2010 and younger'. Why are they excluded? Gee, this is very difficult to manage.

Yes Seniors and Juniors are in the same u18/u19 group. Everything defineded here.

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 and younger = Senior
11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 and younger = Junior

11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2010 and younger = Sophmore
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2011 and younger = Freshman
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2012 and younger = 8th grade
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2013 and younger = 7th grade
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2014 and younger = 6th grade
9v9 = U12 = 8/1/2015 and younger = 5th grade
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2016 and younger = 4th grade
7v7 = U10 = 8/1/2017 and younger = 3rd grade
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2018 and younger = 2nd grade
4v4 = U8 = 8/1/2019 and younger = 1st grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2020 and younger = kindergarten

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok heres a better version

8/1/2009 and younger = Senior
8/1/2009 and younger = Junior

8/1/2011 and younger = Sophmore
8/1/2012 and younger = Freshman
8/1/2013 and younger = 8th
8/1/2014 and younger = 7th
8/1/2015 and younger = 6th
8/1/2016 and younger = 5th
8/1/2017 and younger = 4th
8/1/2018 and younger = 3rd
8/1/2019 and younger = 2nd
8/1/2020 and younger = 1st
8/1/2021 and younger = kindergarten

Just so I'm clear, are you saying someone born in 2021 could be a senior in high school with the 2009s? They surely would qualify based on 8/1/2009 and younger.

Serious question - if this is all about grades. Why didn't they just make it grade year instead of using dates?

I'm saying that when SY is started this fall if playing up is allowed this means the lower bound of 7/31 is unnecessary. I dont know how you got that a 2021 could be a senior in high school. Everything is defined below.

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 and younger = Senior
11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 and younger = Junior

11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2010 and younger = Sophmore
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2011 and younger = Freshman
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2012 and younger = 8th grade
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2013 and younger = 7th grade
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2014 and younger = 6th grade
9v9 = U12 = 8/1/2015 and younger = 5th grade
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2016 and younger = 4th grade
7v7 = U10 = 8/1/2017 and younger = 3rd grade
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2018 and younger = 2nd grade
4v4 = U8 = 8/1/2019 and younger = 1st grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2020 and younger = kindergarten

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok heres a better version

8/1/2009 and younger = Senior
8/1/2009 and younger = Junior

8/1/2011 and younger = Sophmore
8/1/2012 and younger = Freshman
8/1/2013 and younger = 8th
8/1/2014 and younger = 7th
8/1/2015 and younger = 6th
8/1/2016 and younger = 5th
8/1/2017 and younger = 4th
8/1/2018 and younger = 3rd
8/1/2019 and younger = 2nd
8/1/2020 and younger = 1st
8/1/2021 and younger = kindergarten

Just so I'm clear, are you saying someone born in 2021 could be a senior in high school with the 2009s? They surely would qualify based on 8/1/2009 and younger.

Serious question - if this is all about grades. Why didn't they just make it grade year instead of using dates?

I'm saying that when SY is started this fall if playing up is allowed this means the lower bound of 7/31 is unnecessary. I dont know how you got that a 2021 could be a senior in high school. Everything is defined below.

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 and younger = Senior
11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 and younger = Junior

11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2010 and younger = Sophmore
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2011 and younger = Freshman
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2012 and younger = 8th grade
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2013 and younger = 7th grade
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2014 and younger = 6th grade
9v9 = U12 = 8/1/2015 and younger = 5th grade
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2016 and younger = 4th grade
7v7 = U10 = 8/1/2017 and younger = 3rd grade
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2018 and younger = 2nd grade
4v4 = U8 = 8/1/2019 and younger = 1st grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2020 and younger = kindergarten

I like groups presented this way. Its easy to see how everything fits together. US Soccer is weird. They say that switching from BY to SY is happening so there will be less trapped players. Which is a grade in school issue. But then they dont include grade in school as part of their grouping matrix. Even worse they add in 7/31 which doesn't mean anything if players can play up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok heres a better version

8/1/2009 and younger = Senior
8/1/2009 and younger = Junior

8/1/2011 and younger = Sophmore
8/1/2012 and younger = Freshman
8/1/2013 and younger = 8th
8/1/2014 and younger = 7th
8/1/2015 and younger = 6th
8/1/2016 and younger = 5th
8/1/2017 and younger = 4th
8/1/2018 and younger = 3rd
8/1/2019 and younger = 2nd
8/1/2020 and younger = 1st
8/1/2021 and younger = kindergarten

Just so I'm clear, are you saying someone born in 2021 could be a senior in high school with the 2009s? They surely would qualify based on 8/1/2009 and younger.

Serious question - if this is all about grades. Why didn't they just make it grade year instead of using dates?

I'm saying that when SY is started this fall if playing up is allowed this means the lower bound of 7/31 is unnecessary. I dont know how you got that a 2021 could be a senior in high school. Everything is defined below.

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 and younger = Senior
11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 and younger = Junior

11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2010 and younger = Sophmore
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2011 and younger = Freshman
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2012 and younger = 8th grade
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2013 and younger = 7th grade
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2014 and younger = 6th grade
9v9 = U12 = 8/1/2015 and younger = 5th grade
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2016 and younger = 4th grade
7v7 = U10 = 8/1/2017 and younger = 3rd grade
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2018 and younger = 2nd grade
4v4 = U8 = 8/1/2019 and younger = 1st grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2020 and younger = kindergarten

Still butchered. Go back to the correct one to start over. You just keep compounding your own errors.

[Anonymous]

Youth soccer age groups fall 2026

Fall 2026 Age Group Matrix (Birthdate Range)
U7: Aug 1, 2019 – Jul 31, 2020
U8: Aug 1, 2018 – Jul 31, 2019
U9: Aug 1, 2017 – Jul 31, 2018
U10: Aug 1, 2016 – Jul 31, 2017
U11: Aug 1, 2015 – Jul 31, 2016
U12: Aug 1, 2014 – Jul 31, 2015
U13: Aug 1, 2013 – Jul 31, 2014
U14: Aug 1, 2012 – Jul 31, 2013
U15: Aug 1, 2011 – Jul 31, 2012
U16: Aug 1, 2010 – Jul 31, 2011
U17: Aug 1, 2009 – Jul 31, 2010
U18: Aug 1, 2008 – Jul 31, 2009
U19: Aug 1, 2007 – Jul 31, 2008

[Anonymous]

And here is the US Soccer calculator which of course also doesn't have errors.

https://www.ussoccer.com/ecosystem-review/player-registration/age-group-calculator

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok heres a better version

8/1/2009 and younger = Senior
8/1/2009 and younger = Junior

8/1/2011 and younger = Sophmore
8/1/2012 and younger = Freshman
8/1/2013 and younger = 8th
8/1/2014 and younger = 7th
8/1/2015 and younger = 6th
8/1/2016 and younger = 5th
8/1/2017 and younger = 4th
8/1/2018 and younger = 3rd
8/1/2019 and younger = 2nd
8/1/2020 and younger = 1st
8/1/2021 and younger = kindergarten

Just so I'm clear, are you saying someone born in 2021 could be a senior in high school with the 2009s? They surely would qualify based on 8/1/2009 and younger.

Serious question - if this is all about grades. Why didn't they just make it grade year instead of using dates?

I'm saying that when SY is started this fall if playing up is allowed this means the lower bound of 7/31 is unnecessary. I dont know how you got that a 2021 could be a senior in high school. Everything is defined below.

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 and younger = Senior
11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2008 and younger = Junior

11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2010 and younger = Sophmore
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2011 and younger = Freshman
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2012 and younger = 8th grade
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2013 and younger = 7th grade
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2014 and younger = 6th grade
9v9 = U12 = 8/1/2015 and younger = 5th grade
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2016 and younger = 4th grade
7v7 = U10 = 8/1/2017 and younger = 3rd grade
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2018 and younger = 2nd grade
4v4 = U8 = 8/1/2019 and younger = 1st grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2020 and younger = kindergarten

Assuming we're trying to make soccer and school lineup exactly, and everyone younger than 2008 can be u18 then I assume everyone younger than 2008 could be a senior. Maybe a Doogie Howser type of situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why does the calculator include a 3rd age range from 9/1 to 8/31? I thought it was either 8/1 or BY.

Leagues can choose different dates.

Can individual clubs choose a different date range? Or only the league they are part of?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why does the calculator include a 3rd age range from 9/1 to 8/31? I thought it was either 8/1 or BY.

Leagues can choose different dates.

Can individual clubs choose a different date range? Or only the league they are part of?

It's the league the team for the club is in. Sometimes just before 11v11 some clubs will have entire teams play up for marketing purposes and to increase revenue by being able to expand the roster of the club's top team(s). I am not aware of a league other than MLSN1 that didn't pick 8/1-7/31 but they might certainly be out there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok heres a better version

8/1/2009 and younger = Senior
8/1/2009 and younger = Junior

8/1/2011 and younger = Sophmore
8/1/2012 and younger = Freshman
8/1/2013 and younger = 8th
8/1/2014 and younger = 7th
8/1/2015 and younger = 6th
8/1/2016 and younger = 5th
8/1/2017 and younger = 4th
8/1/2018 and younger = 3rd
8/1/2019 and younger = 2nd
8/1/2020 and younger = 1st
8/1/2021 and younger = kindergarten

No

My fall bday 2011 will be a 9th grader next fall, not a sophomore.
You keep trying though, you’ll get it eventually!

Yeah my oct 2011 will be a freshman
What the hell is this anyway….so dumb

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok heres a better version

8/1/2009 and younger = Senior
8/1/2009 and younger = Junior

8/1/2011 and younger = Sophmore
8/1/2012 and younger = Freshman
8/1/2013 and younger = 8th
8/1/2014 and younger = 7th
8/1/2015 and younger = 6th
8/1/2016 and younger = 5th
8/1/2017 and younger = 4th
8/1/2018 and younger = 3rd
8/1/2019 and younger = 2nd
8/1/2020 and younger = 1st
8/1/2021 and younger = kindergarten

No

My fall bday 2011 will be a 9th grader next fall, not a sophomore.
You keep trying though, you’ll get it eventually!

Yeah my oct 2011 will be a freshman
What the hell is this anyway….so dumb

Starting to think delusional August hater doesn't even have a kid playing soccer.

How could you butcher the age group table so many times, what 6, and not notice that your got it wrong for your own kid?

[Anonymous]

why won't this thread die already? and yes i recognize the irony that i am continuing this thread by commenting on it. but seriously, the age change is happening and it is going to be whatever it is going to be for individual aug 1-dec 31 kids, as determined by each kid's individual club, so can we all just move on to arguing about other stuff?