FCPS paying for Critical Race Theory curriculum. To be implemented in a year

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Anonymous wrote:I mean I guess I don't think in 4th grade Virginia History it's appropriate to teach about rape, but in high school of which all kids take two years of US history/government of course. Plus isn't there a year of US history in middle school as well?

I think a fourth grader could understand the evil represented by enslaving your own children, while their half siblings denied their existence and got hysterical at any inquiry about them. It’s basically the plot to Cinderella.

They could but it's not necessary when it's just an introduction to Virginia history. Understanding that slavery was an issue and that it didn't allow people to be free is important. I'm sure some lines about how the founding fathers had slaves and they were not treated well even though these founders espoused freedom for all would be important. But at that age I'd rather gloss over the horrors in such detail and deal with them as kids get older just like other horrors of the world. Do you also think the holocaust is very important to teach at this time as well? How about all the shootings in America? I think it's better to teach horrors in fairy tales first and have briefer mentions of them in the real world and then later realize these are all descriptions of society. It's not healthy to keep telling kids about trauma at such a young age when they don't even know the good in the world and the world is scary to them anyway being so small. The reason we have communities with so much trauma is that they bring the trauma forward with each generation. We're trying to reduce the trauma. Not augment it.

When speaking of Thomas Jefferson, this is a man who would pull teeth from the mouths of slaves because he needed one. He didn’t get false or wooden teeth. When he says slavery was wrong, but owned hundreds of slaves, raped and tortured them, it’s obvious that he knew what he was doing was wrong. Obviously he thought he was above abiding by the laws of humanity and he knew he had and still has all the support of white supremacy.

Would you rather be under British rule? Be a Christian nation still? No one can make him out to be a perfect human. We can honor him for what he did while also portraying him a human with faults. Do you think he deserves honor for the declaration of independence? Many still do and for his role in starting this country.

I feel like a lot of people on this forum do not have children in the school system or children who have gone through the school system. Anyone with a reasonable mind would understand that talking about extracting teeth from slaves is not that appropriate as a highlight into history at 4th grade. It's funny how we seem to have no problem with other world history lessons. We don't spend hours talking about all their foils when studying Egypt or China or Mali.

We don't have any other founding fathers. Either you accept them as who they are with their faults or you have to make a new country. Which is why there is so much unrest at the political level today. Some people can still recognize the good in failing humans. It's a projection of themselves and their own failings really if they can't and live here. How can they live in a country that was founded by failing humans? How can they support the people of this country and the ones who defend it? They can't accept the failure in themselves and so project that onto others.

If it won’t be taught accurately, I’d rather it not be taught at all. I certainly don’t want my kids taught how great it was to be slaves in the United States and the men who tortured, raped, killed, and prevented that natural family bonding of of slaves were great men.
You don’t know that we’d still be under British rule or be Christian nation. Every since the Europeans came to this country there has been some to white supremacist system in place. Thomas Jefferson took part in organizing a new white supremacist nation. No form of white supremacist government is okay. I’d like to be in a nation where human rights are valued and justice is distributed equally and I used to think that is what the United States stood for.

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Wypipo are doing a terrible job at white-supremacing these days what will Asians dominating them academically, at least in America.

They should perhaps take a lesson from non-Western countries about keeping ethnic minorities from immigrating to their lands, ascending to power and blatantly bragging about how their system needs to be dismantled.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean I guess I don't think in 4th grade Virginia History it's appropriate to teach about rape, but in high school of which all kids take two years of US history/government of course. Plus isn't there a year of US history in middle school as well?

I think a fourth grader could understand the evil represented by enslaving your own children, while their half siblings denied their existence and got hysterical at any inquiry about them. It’s basically the plot to Cinderella.

They could but it's not necessary when it's just an introduction to Virginia history. Understanding that slavery was an issue and that it didn't allow people to be free is important. I'm sure some lines about how the founding fathers had slaves and they were not treated well even though these founders espoused freedom for all would be important. But at that age I'd rather gloss over the horrors in such detail and deal with them as kids get older just like other horrors of the world. Do you also think the holocaust is very important to teach at this time as well? How about all the shootings in America? I think it's better to teach horrors in fairy tales first and have briefer mentions of them in the real world and then later realize these are all descriptions of society. It's not healthy to keep telling kids about trauma at such a young age when they don't even know the good in the world and the world is scary to them anyway being so small. The reason we have communities with so much trauma is that they bring the trauma forward with each generation. We're trying to reduce the trauma. Not augment it.

When speaking of Thomas Jefferson, this is a man who would pull teeth from the mouths of slaves because he needed one. He didn’t get false or wooden teeth. When he says slavery was wrong, but owned hundreds of slaves, raped and tortured them, it’s obvious that he knew what he was doing was wrong. Obviously he thought he was above abiding by the laws of humanity and he knew he had and still has all the support of white supremacy.

Would you rather be under British rule? Be a Christian nation still? No one can make him out to be a perfect human. We can honor him for what he did while also portraying him a human with faults. Do you think he deserves honor for the declaration of independence? Many still do and for his role in starting this country.

I feel like a lot of people on this forum do not have children in the school system or children who have gone through the school system. Anyone with a reasonable mind would understand that talking about extracting teeth from slaves is not that appropriate as a highlight into history at 4th grade. It's funny how we seem to have no problem with other world history lessons. We don't spend hours talking about all their foils when studying Egypt or China or Mali.

We don't have any other founding fathers. Either you accept them as who they are with their faults or you have to make a new country. Which is why there is so much unrest at the political level today. Some people can still recognize the good in failing humans. It's a projection of themselves and their own failings really if they can't and live here. How can they live in a country that was founded by failing humans? How can they support the people of this country and the ones who defend it? They can't accept the failure in themselves and so project that onto others.

If it won’t be taught accurately, I’d rather it not be taught at all. I certainly don’t want my kids taught how great it was to be slaves in the United States and the men who tortured, raped, killed, and prevented that natural family bonding of of slaves were great men.
You don’t know that we’d still be under British rule or be Christian nation. Every since the Europeans came to this country there has been some to white supremacist system in place. Thomas Jefferson took part in organizing a new white supremacist nation. No form of white supremacist government is okay. I’d like to be in a nation where human rights are valued and justice is distributed equally and I used to think that is what the United States stood for.

What are you talking about? All nations have started around tribalism. You are such a troll.

Your kids, if you even have any which I think anyone with a brain can see that you don't or that you have a kindergartener or thereabouts, are taught history as full as they can be in FCPS. Social studies in elementary is very scarce to begin with. No one though teaches how great it was to be a slave. There just isn't an entire month long unit at 4th grade on slave rape. Anyone who had a 4th grader go through Virginia history and middle and high school history knows this and knows the topics get more in depth as kids age. A lot of FCPS is self learning. You're getting tiring. Really. There is nothing else to learn from you other than fearmongering that before critical race theory FCPS students were taught that slavery was fun which is only in your head.

Does anyone actually have some issue with what is proposed to be taught verses what is taught now? Can we get back to critical race theory benefits and problems verses FCPS teaches slavery is fun?

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Btw, slavery is fun PP, were you aware that there is a huge group of African Americans opposed to critical race theory taught at the elementary and middle school level? It's not even popular among the people you think you're supporting.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean I guess I don't think in 4th grade Virginia History it's appropriate to teach about rape, but in high school of which all kids take two years of US history/government of course. Plus isn't there a year of US history in middle school as well?

I think a fourth grader could understand the evil represented by enslaving your own children, while their half siblings denied their existence and got hysterical at any inquiry about them. It’s basically the plot to Cinderella.

They could but it's not necessary when it's just an introduction to Virginia history. Understanding that slavery was an issue and that it didn't allow people to be free is important. I'm sure some lines about how the founding fathers had slaves and they were not treated well even though these founders espoused freedom for all would be important. But at that age I'd rather gloss over the horrors in such detail and deal with them as kids get older just like other horrors of the world. Do you also think the holocaust is very important to teach at this time as well? How about all the shootings in America? I think it's better to teach horrors in fairy tales first and have briefer mentions of them in the real world and then later realize these are all descriptions of society. It's not healthy to keep telling kids about trauma at such a young age when they don't even know the good in the world and the world is scary to them anyway being so small. The reason we have communities with so much trauma is that they bring the trauma forward with each generation. We're trying to reduce the trauma. Not augment it.

When speaking of Thomas Jefferson, this is a man who would pull teeth from the mouths of slaves because he needed one. He didn’t get false or wooden teeth. When he says slavery was wrong, but owned hundreds of slaves, raped and tortured them, it’s obvious that he knew what he was doing was wrong. Obviously he thought he was above abiding by the laws of humanity and he knew he had and still has all the support of white supremacy.

Would you rather be under British rule? Be a Christian nation still? No one can make him out to be a perfect human. We can honor him for what he did while also portraying him a human with faults. Do you think he deserves honor for the declaration of independence? Many still do and for his role in starting this country.

I feel like a lot of people on this forum do not have children in the school system or children who have gone through the school system. Anyone with a reasonable mind would understand that talking about extracting teeth from slaves is not that appropriate as a highlight into history at 4th grade. It's funny how we seem to have no problem with other world history lessons. We don't spend hours talking about all their foils when studying Egypt or China or Mali.

We don't have any other founding fathers. Either you accept them as who they are with their faults or you have to make a new country. Which is why there is so much unrest at the political level today. Some people can still recognize the good in failing humans. It's a projection of themselves and their own failings really if they can't and live here. How can they live in a country that was founded by failing humans? How can they support the people of this country and the ones who defend it? They can't accept the failure in themselves and so project that onto others.

If it won’t be taught accurately, I’d rather it not be taught at all. I certainly don’t want my kids taught how great it was to be slaves in the United States and the men who tortured, raped, killed, and prevented that natural family bonding of of slaves were great men.
You don’t know that we’d still be under British rule or be Christian nation. Every since the Europeans came to this country there has been some to white supremacist system in place. Thomas Jefferson took part in organizing a new white supremacist nation. No form of white supremacist government is okay. I’d like to be in a nation where human rights are valued and justice is distributed equally and I used to think that is what the United States stood for.

What are you talking about? All nations have started around tribalism. You are such a troll.

Your kids, if you even have any which I think anyone with a brain can see that you don't or that you have a kindergartener or thereabouts, are taught history as full as they can be in FCPS. Social studies in elementary is very scarce to begin with. No one though teaches how great it was to be a slave. There just isn't an entire month long unit at 4th grade on slave rape. Anyone who had a 4th grader go through Virginia history and middle and high school history knows this and knows the topics get more in depth as kids age. A lot of FCPS is self learning. You're getting tiring. Really. There is nothing else to learn from you other than fearmongering that before critical race theory FCPS students were taught that slavery was fun which is only in your head.

Does anyone actually have some issue with what is proposed to be taught verses what is taught now? Can we get back to critical race theory benefits and problems verses FCPS teaches slavery is fun?

The white supremacy supporters are doing all this splaining and making excuses for this man who was known to have raped and torchered children and undeserving human beings for his own pleasure and personal gain.
Thomas Jefferson committed crimes against humanity, he enjoyed it, and he got away with it. That’s what should be taught.

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The kids in FCPS school aren’t taught that there were five Emancipation Proclamation’s. That the White Supremacists who were in control kept refusing to free the slaves until the had to.
That is something that should be taught.

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Anonymous wrote:The kids in FCPS school aren’t taught that there were five Emancipation Proclamation’s. That the White Supremacists who were in control kept refusing to free the slaves until the had to.
That is something that should be taught.

There is a lot that could be different. Instead the kids learn that there was a time when blacks people were slaves, they were freed by the good white people of the United States, there were treated separate but equal, we had the civil rights movement and became integrated, Obama became President, and racism was gone forever.

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Anonymous wrote:The kids in FCPS school aren’t taught that there were five Emancipation Proclamation’s. That the White Supremacists who were in control kept refusing to free the slaves until the had to.
That is something that should be taught.

There is a lot that could be different. Instead the kids learn that there was a time when blacks people were slaves, they were freed by the good white people of the United States, there were treated separate but equal, we had the civil rights movement and became integrated, Obama became President, and racism was gone forever.

Other than racism was gone forever, you're basically stating facts.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean I guess I don't think in 4th grade Virginia History it's appropriate to teach about rape, but in high school of which all kids take two years of US history/government of course. Plus isn't there a year of US history in middle school as well?

I think a fourth grader could understand the evil represented by enslaving your own children, while their half siblings denied their existence and got hysterical at any inquiry about them. It’s basically the plot to Cinderella.

They could but it's not necessary when it's just an introduction to Virginia history. Understanding that slavery was an issue and that it didn't allow people to be free is important. I'm sure some lines about how the founding fathers had slaves and they were not treated well even though these founders espoused freedom for all would be important. But at that age I'd rather gloss over the horrors in such detail and deal with them as kids get older just like other horrors of the world. Do you also think the holocaust is very important to teach at this time as well? How about all the shootings in America? I think it's better to teach horrors in fairy tales first and have briefer mentions of them in the real world and then later realize these are all descriptions of society. It's not healthy to keep telling kids about trauma at such a young age when they don't even know the good in the world and the world is scary to them anyway being so small. The reason we have communities with so much trauma is that they bring the trauma forward with each generation. We're trying to reduce the trauma. Not augment it.

When speaking of Thomas Jefferson, this is a man who would pull teeth from the mouths of slaves because he needed one. He didn’t get false or wooden teeth. When he says slavery was wrong, but owned hundreds of slaves, raped and tortured them, it’s obvious that he knew what he was doing was wrong. Obviously he thought he was above abiding by the laws of humanity and he knew he had and still has all the support of white supremacy.

Would you rather be under British rule? Be a Christian nation still? No one can make him out to be a perfect human. We can honor him for what he did while also portraying him a human with faults. Do you think he deserves honor for the declaration of independence? Many still do and for his role in starting this country.

I feel like a lot of people on this forum do not have children in the school system or children who have gone through the school system. Anyone with a reasonable mind would understand that talking about extracting teeth from slaves is not that appropriate as a highlight into history at 4th grade. It's funny how we seem to have no problem with other world history lessons. We don't spend hours talking about all their foils when studying Egypt or China or Mali.

We don't have any other founding fathers. Either you accept them as who they are with their faults or you have to make a new country. Which is why there is so much unrest at the political level today. Some people can still recognize the good in failing humans. It's a projection of themselves and their own failings really if they can't and live here. How can they live in a country that was founded by failing humans? How can they support the people of this country and the ones who defend it? They can't accept the failure in themselves and so project that onto others.

If it won’t be taught accurately, I’d rather it not be taught at all. I certainly don’t want my kids taught how great it was to be slaves in the United States and the men who tortured, raped, killed, and prevented that natural family bonding of of slaves were great men.
You don’t know that we’d still be under British rule or be Christian nation. Every since the Europeans came to this country there has been some to white supremacist system in place. Thomas Jefferson took part in organizing a new white supremacist nation. No form of white supremacist government is okay. I’d like to be in a nation where human rights are valued and justice is distributed equally and I used to think that is what the United States stood for.

What are you talking about? All nations have started around tribalism. You are such a troll.

Your kids, if you even have any which I think anyone with a brain can see that you don't or that you have a kindergartener or thereabouts, are taught history as full as they can be in FCPS. Social studies in elementary is very scarce to begin with. No one though teaches how great it was to be a slave. There just isn't an entire month long unit at 4th grade on slave rape. Anyone who had a 4th grader go through Virginia history and middle and high school history knows this and knows the topics get more in depth as kids age. A lot of FCPS is self learning. You're getting tiring. Really. There is nothing else to learn from you other than fearmongering that before critical race theory FCPS students were taught that slavery was fun which is only in your head.

Does anyone actually have some issue with what is proposed to be taught verses what is taught now? Can we get back to critical race theory benefits and problems verses FCPS teaches slavery is fun?

The white supremacy supporters are doing all this splaining and making excuses for this man who was known to have raped and torchered children and undeserving human beings for his own pleasure and personal gain.
Thomas Jefferson committed crimes against humanity, he enjoyed it, and he got away with it. That’s what should be taught.

It is taught. All of what you said is already taught. You just don't know that because you don't have a kid in the school sytem.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean I guess I don't think in 4th grade Virginia History it's appropriate to teach about rape, but in high school of which all kids take two years of US history/government of course. Plus isn't there a year of US history in middle school as well?

I think a fourth grader could understand the evil represented by enslaving your own children, while their half siblings denied their existence and got hysterical at any inquiry about them. It’s basically the plot to Cinderella.

They could but it's not necessary when it's just an introduction to Virginia history. Understanding that slavery was an issue and that it didn't allow people to be free is important. I'm sure some lines about how the founding fathers had slaves and they were not treated well even though these founders espoused freedom for all would be important. But at that age I'd rather gloss over the horrors in such detail and deal with them as kids get older just like other horrors of the world. Do you also think the holocaust is very important to teach at this time as well? How about all the shootings in America? I think it's better to teach horrors in fairy tales first and have briefer mentions of them in the real world and then later realize these are all descriptions of society. It's not healthy to keep telling kids about trauma at such a young age when they don't even know the good in the world and the world is scary to them anyway being so small. The reason we have communities with so much trauma is that they bring the trauma forward with each generation. We're trying to reduce the trauma. Not augment it.

When speaking of Thomas Jefferson, this is a man who would pull teeth from the mouths of slaves because he needed one. He didn’t get false or wooden teeth. When he says slavery was wrong, but owned hundreds of slaves, raped and tortured them, it’s obvious that he knew what he was doing was wrong. Obviously he thought he was above abiding by the laws of humanity and he knew he had and still has all the support of white supremacy.

Would you rather be under British rule? Be a Christian nation still? No one can make him out to be a perfect human. We can honor him for what he did while also portraying him a human with faults. Do you think he deserves honor for the declaration of independence? Many still do and for his role in starting this country.

I feel like a lot of people on this forum do not have children in the school system or children who have gone through the school system. Anyone with a reasonable mind would understand that talking about extracting teeth from slaves is not that appropriate as a highlight into history at 4th grade. It's funny how we seem to have no problem with other world history lessons. We don't spend hours talking about all their foils when studying Egypt or China or Mali.

We don't have any other founding fathers. Either you accept them as who they are with their faults or you have to make a new country. Which is why there is so much unrest at the political level today. Some people can still recognize the good in failing humans. It's a projection of themselves and their own failings really if they can't and live here. How can they live in a country that was founded by failing humans? How can they support the people of this country and the ones who defend it? They can't accept the failure in themselves and so project that onto others.

If it won’t be taught accurately, I’d rather it not be taught at all. I certainly don’t want my kids taught how great it was to be slaves in the United States and the men who tortured, raped, killed, and prevented that natural family bonding of of slaves were great men.
You don’t know that we’d still be under British rule or be Christian nation. Every since the Europeans came to this country there has been some to white supremacist system in place. Thomas Jefferson took part in organizing a new white supremacist nation. No form of white supremacist government is okay. I’d like to be in a nation where human rights are valued and justice is distributed equally and I used to think that is what the United States stood for.

What are you talking about? All nations have started around tribalism. You are such a troll.

Your kids, if you even have any which I think anyone with a brain can see that you don't or that you have a kindergartener or thereabouts, are taught history as full as they can be in FCPS. Social studies in elementary is very scarce to begin with. No one though teaches how great it was to be a slave. There just isn't an entire month long unit at 4th grade on slave rape. Anyone who had a 4th grader go through Virginia history and middle and high school history knows this and knows the topics get more in depth as kids age. A lot of FCPS is self learning. You're getting tiring. Really. There is nothing else to learn from you other than fearmongering that before critical race theory FCPS students were taught that slavery was fun which is only in your head.

Does anyone actually have some issue with what is proposed to be taught verses what is taught now? Can we get back to critical race theory benefits and problems verses FCPS teaches slavery is fun?

The white supremacy supporters are doing all this splaining and making excuses for this man who was known to have raped and torchered children and undeserving human beings for his own pleasure and personal gain.
Thomas Jefferson committed crimes against humanity, he enjoyed it, and he got away with it. That’s what should be taught.

In addition to his extensive accomplishments for the country...or in lieu of?

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I think we should teach about the hypocrisies and bad acts of all major world leaders in history, along with their achievements of course.

It's very white supremacist to ignore Papa Doc, Idi Amin, Mao, Peron, Genghis Khan and a host of others.

You'd think white people and white men especially were the only ones who ever ruled anything.


It's honestly disgusting and triggering that all these people pretend that no one who wasn't white was ever dominant and a significant historical figure.

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Anonymous wrote:Some of us white people think that it's an important lesson for our children to realize their privilege. I'm glad FCPS is doing it. Better society = better America.

This is your job as a parent to teach. Only you know how privileged or not privileged your children are. One of the major points of education is essentially Don’t judge a book by its cover. Now you want teachers to judge kids by their skin color and tell white kids they’re privileged without knowing anything about their lives?

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Anonymous wrote:Some of us white people think that it's an important lesson for our children to realize their privilege. I'm glad FCPS is doing it. Better society = better America.

This is your job as a parent to teach. Only you know how privileged or not privileged your children are. One of the major points of education is essentially Don’t judge a book by its cover. Now you want teachers to judge kids by their skin color and tell white kids they’re privileged without knowing anything about their lives?

I'm sure the PP is in fact teaching their children that it is a privilege to be white lol.

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Anonymous wrote:Some of us white people think that it's an important lesson for our children to realize their privilege. I'm glad FCPS is doing it. Better society = better America.

This is your job as a parent to teach. Only you know how privileged or not privileged your children are. One of the major points of education is essentially Don’t judge a book by its cover. Now you want teachers to judge kids by their skin color and tell white kids they’re privileged without knowing anything about their lives?

Are you serious? People have been being judged by their color for ever. Stop with this BS and trying to cause confusion when some people are trying to have a legitimate discussion.

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Anonymous wrote:Some of us white people think that it's an important lesson for our children to realize their privilege. I'm glad FCPS is doing it. Better society = better America.

This is your job as a parent to teach. Only you know how privileged or not privileged your children are. One of the major points of education is essentially Don’t judge a book by its cover. Now you want teachers to judge kids by their skin color and tell white kids they’re privileged without knowing anything about their lives?

Are you serious? People have been being judged by their color for ever. Stop with this BS and trying to cause confusion when some people are trying to have a legitimate discussion.

Yeah no one ever taught about Jim Crow and Asian exclusion laws ever before.

Biiiiiiggggg secret only now being discussed and we may get to hear about it in schools for the first time EVARR!