Woman charged with felony for having a stillbirth

[Anonymous]

Crazy to me that Republicans just lost on the Ohio abortion referendum (which they say they plan to ignore) and yet they still haven't learned. The women who turned out for the referendum are going to be pretty P*ssed about this one, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Crazy to me that Republicans just lost on the Ohio abortion referendum (which they say they plan to ignore) and yet they still haven't learned. The women who turned out for the referendum are going to be pretty P*ssed about this one, too.

And the voters who were on the fence about it will be turned to the pro choice side and people who abstained will be sure to turn out in 2024, because otherwise, who is going to be targeted next by the misogynistic forced birthers? A woman who produces insufficient children? A woman who has two miscarriages? Seriously, what ghastly thing will they do to women next.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I had a D&E at 17 weeks pregnant, and this was all done with a lot of medical supports in place. I cannot imagine the utter grief and shock I would have felt if I’d had a spontaneous stillbirth at 22 weeks.

The lack of empathy - in this case, for a woman who lost her fetus - is incomprehensible to me and precisely why America today SUCKS.

America is fine; Republicans suck. Most pro choice pps on here have been clear that this was a personal tragedy for this woman and now a forced birther prosecutor is compounding the tragedy and for what? Because he’s arrogant, hates women and though he has no idea what happened, he doesn’t really care about the facts. He just wants to cause this woman - who already lost a wanted pregnancy, all on her own - more pain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread title needs to be changed.

It doesn’t. It reflects the forced birther plan of targeting women to show their muscle. That’s all this is.

What? She wasn't charged for having a stillbirth. Stop lying.

So, you’re making the pseudo-sophisticated point that she wasn’t charged for HAVING a stillbirth — she was charged for what she DID with the results of the stillbirth. Go for it: Make it make sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread title needs to be changed.

It doesn’t. It reflects the forced birther plan of targeting women to show their muscle. That’s all this is.

What? She wasn't charged for having a stillbirth. Stop lying.

So, you’re making the pseudo-sophisticated point that she wasn’t charged for HAVING a stillbirth — she was charged for what she DID with the results of the stillbirth. Go for it: Make it make sense.

Correction: There’s also nothing to support this being about a stillbirth vs a miscarriage. How about changing the title to: Miscarriage of Justice?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had a D&E at 17 weeks pregnant, and this was all done with a lot of medical supports in place. I cannot imagine the utter grief and shock I would have felt if I’d had a spontaneous stillbirth at 22 weeks.

The lack of empathy - in this case, for a woman who lost her fetus - is incomprehensible to me and precisely why America today SUCKS.

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I can’t believe people are faulting her here or think this should be prosecuted as a felony. What is the problem with these people? It’s disturbing.

Because you and so many like you have never ever seen a fetus that has gestated beyond 20 weeks. It's not a glob of cells. It is a tiny little baby. It is something you cannot comprehend because you have not seen it or been through it. I delivered a 20 week fetus at home and the brought it to the hospital. I don't what else to say here. What she did is wrong. She shouldn't go to jail, but the facts of why the police were called and this is being pursued will come out. There is simply more to the story, and nobody here knows yet what it is. I imagine many will be asked to question what they thought they knew.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had a D&E at 17 weeks pregnant, and this was all done with a lot of medical supports in place. I cannot imagine the utter grief and shock I would have felt if I’d had a spontaneous stillbirth at 22 weeks.

The lack of empathy - in this case, for a woman who lost her fetus - is incomprehensible to me and precisely why America today SUCKS.

America is fine; Republicans suck. Most pro choice pps on here have been clear that this was a personal tragedy for this woman and now a forced birther prosecutor is compounding the tragedy and for what? Because he’s arrogant, hates women and though he has no idea what happened, he doesn’t really care about the facts. He just wants to cause this woman - who already lost a wanted pregnancy, all on her own - more pain.

Where did you read this was a wanted pregnancy? Links, please. So many facts assumed here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had a D&E at 17 weeks pregnant, and this was all done with a lot of medical supports in place. I cannot imagine the utter grief and shock I would have felt if I’d had a spontaneous stillbirth at 22 weeks.

The lack of empathy - in this case, for a woman who lost her fetus - is incomprehensible to me and precisely why America today SUCKS.

x1 billion

I can’t believe people are faulting her here or think this should be prosecuted as a felony. What is the problem with these people? It’s disturbing.

Because you and so many like you have never ever seen a fetus that has gestated beyond 20 weeks. It's not a glob of cells. It is a tiny little baby. It is something you cannot comprehend because you have not seen it or been through it. I delivered a 20 week fetus at home and the brought it to the hospital. I don't what else to say here. What she did is wrong. She shouldn't go to jail, but the facts of why the police were called and this is being pursued will come out. There is simply more to the story, and nobody here knows yet what it is. I imagine many will be asked to question what they thought they knew.

You don’t know what this woman saw or experienced. You don’t know her state of mind. Your experience is clouding your judgement here. She should be receiving support now, not being prosecuted for FELONY.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had a D&E at 17 weeks pregnant, and this was all done with a lot of medical supports in place. I cannot imagine the utter grief and shock I would have felt if I’d had a spontaneous stillbirth at 22 weeks.

The lack of empathy - in this case, for a woman who lost her fetus - is incomprehensible to me and precisely why America today SUCKS.

x1 billion

I can’t believe people are faulting her here or think this should be prosecuted as a felony. What is the problem with these people? It’s disturbing.

Because you and so many like you have never ever seen a fetus that has gestated beyond 20 weeks. It's not a glob of cells. It is a tiny little baby. It is something you cannot comprehend because you have not seen it or been through it. I delivered a 20 week fetus at home and the brought it to the hospital. I don't what else to say here. What she did is wrong. She shouldn't go to jail, but the facts of why the police were called and this is being pursued will come out. There is simply more to the story, and nobody here knows yet what it is. I imagine many will be asked to question what they thought they knew.

Why did you bring it to the hospital?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had a D&E at 17 weeks pregnant, and this was all done with a lot of medical supports in place. I cannot imagine the utter grief and shock I would have felt if I’d had a spontaneous stillbirth at 22 weeks.

The lack of empathy - in this case, for a woman who lost her fetus - is incomprehensible to me and precisely why America today SUCKS.

x1 billion

I can’t believe people are faulting her here or think this should be prosecuted as a felony. What is the problem with these people? It’s disturbing.

Because you and so many like you have never ever seen a fetus that has gestated beyond 20 weeks. It's not a glob of cells. It is a tiny little baby. It is something you cannot comprehend because you have not seen it or been through it. I delivered a 20 week fetus at home and the brought it to the hospital. I don't what else to say here. What she did is wrong. She shouldn't go to jail, but the facts of why the police were called and this is being pursued will come out. There is simply more to the story, and nobody here knows yet what it is. I imagine many will be asked to question what they thought they knew.

If you did that in Ohio they’d arrest you for an abortion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had a D&E at 17 weeks pregnant, and this was all done with a lot of medical supports in place. I cannot imagine the utter grief and shock I would have felt if I’d had a spontaneous stillbirth at 22 weeks.

The lack of empathy - in this case, for a woman who lost her fetus - is incomprehensible to me and precisely why America today SUCKS.

x1 billion

I can’t believe people are faulting her here or think this should be prosecuted as a felony. What is the problem with these people? It’s disturbing.

Because you and so many like you have never ever seen a fetus that has gestated beyond 20 weeks. It's not a glob of cells. It is a tiny little baby. It is something you cannot comprehend because you have not seen it or been through it. I delivered a 20 week fetus at home and the brought it to the hospital. I don't what else to say here. What she did is wrong. She shouldn't go to jail, but the facts of why the police were called and this is being pursued will come out. There is simply more to the story, and nobody here knows yet what it is. I imagine many will be asked to question what they thought they knew.

I’m struggling to comprehend what you think is so wrong here, not to mention criminally wrong. The fetus was dead - there seems to be no question that she could have done anything to keep it alive. I certainly cannot fault any reaction a woman would have to delivering a stillborn at home. I suspect I myself would not want to look at or touch it at all. Not wanting to look and not knowing how big it was, I absolutely might have flushed. The fetus was *dead* and I truly struggle to understand the people who think there is a *wrong* way to deal with that fact.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had a D&E at 17 weeks pregnant, and this was all done with a lot of medical supports in place. I cannot imagine the utter grief and shock I would have felt if I’d had a spontaneous stillbirth at 22 weeks.

The lack of empathy - in this case, for a woman who lost her fetus - is incomprehensible to me and precisely why America today SUCKS.

x1 billion

I can’t believe people are faulting her here or think this should be prosecuted as a felony. What is the problem with these people? It’s disturbing.

Because you and so many like you have never ever seen a fetus that has gestated beyond 20 weeks. It's not a glob of cells. It is a tiny little baby. It is something you cannot comprehend because you have not seen it or been through it. I delivered a 20 week fetus at home and the brought it to the hospital. I don't what else to say here. What she did is wrong. She shouldn't go to jail, but the facts of why the police were called and this is being pursued will come out. There is simply more to the story, and nobody here knows yet what it is. I imagine many will be asked to question what they thought they knew.

The fetus was NOT viable. And, to quote you: “It is something you cannot comprehend because you have not seen it….”
So the reality is that you have no idea whether what this poor woman delivered was “a glob of cells” or not. You really don’t. Maybe one of the people “asked to question what they thought they knew” will be You. Stop spreading misinformation because you have a bizarre need to believe that your own experience is somehow universal. It’s not.

[Anonymous]

You brought your 20 week fetus to the hospital. What did they do with it when you got there. What did they say? Did they charge you any money? Did they test your fetus? Did they dispose of it for you?

Also just curious if you read the very reasonable guidelines upthread from the UK that talks about how women should FEEL FREE to dispose of their dead fetus in the way that feels right to them, including flushing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had a D&E at 17 weeks pregnant, and this was all done with a lot of medical supports in place. I cannot imagine the utter grief and shock I would have felt if I’d had a spontaneous stillbirth at 22 weeks.

The lack of empathy - in this case, for a woman who lost her fetus - is incomprehensible to me and precisely why America today SUCKS.

x1 billion

I can’t believe people are faulting her here or think this should be prosecuted as a felony. What is the problem with these people? It’s disturbing.

Because you and so many like you have never ever seen a fetus that has gestated beyond 20 weeks. It's not a glob of cells. It is a tiny little baby. It is something you cannot comprehend because you have not seen it or been through it. I delivered a 20 week fetus at home and the brought it to the hospital. I don't what else to say here. What she did is wrong. She shouldn't go to jail, but the facts of why the police were called and this is being pursued will come out. There is simply more to the story, and nobody here knows yet what it is. I imagine many will be asked to question what they thought they knew.

The fetus was NOT viable. And, to quote you: “It is something you cannot comprehend because you have not seen it….”
So the reality is that you have no idea whether what this poor woman delivered was “a glob of cells” or not. You really don’t. Maybe one of the people “asked to question what they thought they knew” will be You. Stop spreading misinformation because you have a bizarre need to believe that your own experience is somehow universal. It’s not.

The birth wasn’t viable, no one knows when the clump of cells stopped growing. PP’s fetus may have looked like a baby, the defendants may or may not have. But no matter what the fetus looked like - it was dead and was never going to be alive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had a D&E at 17 weeks pregnant, and this was all done with a lot of medical supports in place. I cannot imagine the utter grief and shock I would have felt if I’d had a spontaneous stillbirth at 22 weeks.

The lack of empathy - in this case, for a woman who lost her fetus - is incomprehensible to me and precisely why America today SUCKS.

x1 billion

I can’t believe people are faulting her here or think this should be prosecuted as a felony. What is the problem with these people? It’s disturbing.

Because you and so many like you have never ever seen a fetus that has gestated beyond 20 weeks. It's not a glob of cells. It is a tiny little baby. It is something you cannot comprehend because you have not seen it or been through it. I delivered a 20 week fetus at home and the brought it to the hospital. I don't what else to say here. What she did is wrong. She shouldn't go to jail, but the facts of why the police were called and this is being pursued will come out. There is simply more to the story, and nobody here knows yet what it is. I imagine many will be asked to question what they thought they knew.

We know why she was charged, she is a political pawn. I hope she sues the pants off the state when this is over.