TJ Discrimination Case

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Anonymous wrote:Not in the United States of America. Asians are like 6% of the population so that doesn’t add up. My daughter has 26 Asian students in a class of 31 but the whole state of Virginia is like 7%. SMH

FCPS is about 20% Asian students.

Then it's crazy to think there's discrimination when TJ is like 70% Asian.

Especially since selection is a race-blind process.

Many would prefer to believe in wacky conspiracies even if there's no evidence to support this

My favorite conspiracy theory - Asian kids bought the answers from Curie.

They didn’t buy the answers. They bought access to materials from a secured exam.

That’s not up for debate among serious people who know what is going on in Northern Virginia.

It was clear to everyone that this was going on. Not sure why some are trying to sweep it under the rug. Things had gotten so bad that the school board had to change the admission process since only wealthy applicants could afford to buy their way in.

Yes, it does seem odd they're trying to rewrite history to support this false narrative of a past that never was. Everyone who knows anything also was aware there was widespread cheating.

Agree under the new system the top kids are getting in not just those who require prep to give the appearance of gifted.

Test scores and the remedial math classes don't support your conclusion that "the top kids are getting in." I know the truth hurts, but just own it. Come out and say I don't care if the best and brightest are getting in, it's a county-wide school that needs to serve all of the taxpayers in the county so each middle school gets some seats and we aren't going to require a competitive math test to get in as we think a student body with ESL, URM, and low income students that may not fare as well on such a test is more important. Why is that so hard to come out and say that? FCPS pretty much said exactly this. Why can't the rest of us?

They actually do but some parents insist on spreading this false narrative. TJ is stronger than ever now that the playing field is level and they've put an end to cheaeting.

Discrimination against Asians does not make TJ stronger. And back up that cheating accusation with something. The county did not raise any alleged "cheating" in the lawsuit brought by Coalition for TJ. If there was any basis for the cheating narrative it would have come out. No such accusation has ever been made in a public forum.

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Anonymous wrote:Not in the United States of America. Asians are like 6% of the population so that doesn’t add up. My daughter has 26 Asian students in a class of 31 but the whole state of Virginia is like 7%. SMH

FCPS is about 20% Asian students.

Then it's crazy to think there's discrimination when TJ is like 70% Asian.

Especially since selection is a race-blind process.

Many would prefer to believe in wacky conspiracies even if there's no evidence to support this

My favorite conspiracy theory - Asian kids bought the answers from Curie.

They didn’t buy the answers. They bought access to materials from a secured exam.

That’s not up for debate among serious people who know what is going on in Northern Virginia.

It was clear to everyone that this was going on. Not sure why some are trying to sweep it under the rug. Things had gotten so bad that the school board had to change the admission process since only wealthy applicants could afford to buy their way in.

Yes, it does seem odd they're trying to rewrite history to support this false narrative of a past that never was. Everyone who knows anything also was aware there was widespread cheating.

Agree under the new system the top kids are getting in not just those who require prep to give the appearance of gifted.

Test scores and the remedial math classes don't support your conclusion that "the top kids are getting in." I know the truth hurts, but just own it. Come out and say I don't care if the best and brightest are getting in, it's a county-wide school that needs to serve all of the taxpayers in the county so each middle school gets some seats and we aren't going to require a competitive math test to get in as we think a student body with ESL, URM, and low income students that may not fare as well on such a test is more important. Why is that so hard to come out and say that? FCPS pretty much said exactly this. Why can't the rest of us?

They actually do but some parents insist on spreading this false narrative. TJ is stronger than ever now that the playing field is level and they've put an end to cheaeting.

Discrimination against Asians does not make TJ stronger. And back up that cheating accusation with something. The county did not raise any alleged "cheating" in the lawsuit brought by Coalition for TJ. If there was any basis for the cheating narrative it would have come out. No such accusation has ever been made in a public forum.

DP. There was no need to bring it up from a legal perspective and would have just made the case muckier from an evidentiary standpoint.

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Anonymous wrote:Not in the United States of America. Asians are like 6% of the population so that doesn’t add up. My daughter has 26 Asian students in a class of 31 but the whole state of Virginia is like 7%. SMH

FCPS is about 20% Asian students.

Then it's crazy to think there's discrimination when TJ is like 70% Asian.

Especially since selection is a race-blind process.

Many would prefer to believe in wacky conspiracies even if there's no evidence to support this

My favorite conspiracy theory - Asian kids bought the answers from Curie.

They didn’t buy the answers. They bought access to materials from a secured exam.

That’s not up for debate among serious people who know what is going on in Northern Virginia.

It was clear to everyone that this was going on. Not sure why some are trying to sweep it under the rug. Things had gotten so bad that the school board had to change the admission process since only wealthy applicants could afford to buy their way in.

Yes, it does seem odd they're trying to rewrite history to support this false narrative of a past that never was. Everyone who knows anything also was aware there was widespread cheating.

Agree under the new system the top kids are getting in not just those who require prep to give the appearance of gifted.

Test scores and the remedial math classes don't support your conclusion that "the top kids are getting in." I know the truth hurts, but just own it. Come out and say I don't care if the best and brightest are getting in, it's a county-wide school that needs to serve all of the taxpayers in the county so each middle school gets some seats and we aren't going to require a competitive math test to get in as we think a student body with ESL, URM, and low income students that may not fare as well on such a test is more important. Why is that so hard to come out and say that? FCPS pretty much said exactly this. Why can't the rest of us?

They actually do but some parents insist on spreading this false narrative. TJ is stronger than ever now that the playing field is level and they've put an end to cheaeting.

Discrimination against Asians does not make TJ stronger. And back up that cheating accusation with something. The county did not raise any alleged "cheating" in the lawsuit brought by Coalition for TJ. If there was any basis for the cheating narrative it would have come out. No such accusation has ever been made in a public forum.

DP. There was no need to bring it up from a legal perspective and would have just made the case muckier from an evidentiary standpoint.

Good points. The facts were already bad enough from FCPS's perspective than calling additional attention the facts would have made things that much worse for FCPS. They will only prevail if the appellate courts shut their eyes to the facts and pretend FCPS was starting from a blank slate when it adopted the new system.

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Anecdotally, TJ has not been selecting the top students within a school, who would make the most use of the advanced classes.
I should say FCPS is not selecting the top students, as my understanding is TJ doesn't handle the admissions.

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Anonymous wrote:Anecdotally, TJ has not been selecting the top students within a school, who would make the most use of the advanced classes.
I should say FCPS is not selecting the top students, as my understanding is TJ doesn't handle the admissions.

You assume all the top students in each school apply to TJ. Not everyone is interested in that sideshow.

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Anonymous wrote:Not in the United States of America. Asians are like 6% of the population so that doesn’t add up. My daughter has 26 Asian students in a class of 31 but the whole state of Virginia is like 7%. SMH

FCPS is about 20% Asian students.

Then it's crazy to think there's discrimination when TJ is like 70% Asian.

Especially since selection is a race-blind process.

Many would prefer to believe in wacky conspiracies even if there's no evidence to support this

My favorite conspiracy theory - Asian kids bought the answers from Curie.

They didn’t buy the answers. They bought access to materials from a secured exam.

That’s not up for debate among serious people who know what is going on in Northern Virginia.

It was clear to everyone that this was going on. Not sure why some are trying to sweep it under the rug. Things had gotten so bad that the school board had to change the admission process since only wealthy applicants could afford to buy their way in.

Yes, it does seem odd they're trying to rewrite history to support this false narrative of a past that never was. Everyone who knows anything also was aware there was widespread cheating.

Agree under the new system the top kids are getting in not just those who require prep to give the appearance of gifted.

Test scores and the remedial math classes don't support your conclusion that "the top kids are getting in." I know the truth hurts, but just own it. Come out and say I don't care if the best and brightest are getting in, it's a county-wide school that needs to serve all of the taxpayers in the county so each middle school gets some seats and we aren't going to require a competitive math test to get in as we think a student body with ESL, URM, and low income students that may not fare as well on such a test is more important. Why is that so hard to come out and say that? FCPS pretty much said exactly this. Why can't the rest of us?

They actually do but some parents insist on spreading this false narrative. TJ is stronger than ever now that the playing field is level and they've put an end to cheaeting.

Discrimination against Asians does not make TJ stronger. And back up that cheating accusation with something. The county did not raise any alleged "cheating" in the lawsuit brought by Coalition for TJ. If there was any basis for the cheating narrative it would have come out. No such accusation has ever been made in a public forum.

DP. There was no need to bring it up from a legal perspective and would have just made the case muckier from an evidentiary standpoint.

Good points. The facts were already bad enough from FCPS's perspective than calling additional attention the facts would have made things that much worse for FCPS. They will only prevail if the appellate courts shut their eyes to the facts and pretend FCPS was starting from a blank slate when it adopted the new system.

LOL, you fancy yourself quite the legal eagle, don’t you.

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Anonymous wrote:Anecdotally, TJ has not been selecting the top students within a school, who would make the most use of the advanced classes.
I should say FCPS is not selecting the top students, as my understanding is TJ doesn't handle the admissions.

That is incorrect only the top 1.5% of students are selected from each school.

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Anonymous wrote:Not in the United States of America. Asians are like 6% of the population so that doesn’t add up. My daughter has 26 Asian students in a class of 31 but the whole state of Virginia is like 7%. SMH

FCPS is about 20% Asian students.

Then it's crazy to think there's discrimination when TJ is like 70% Asian.

Especially since selection is a race-blind process.

Many would prefer to believe in wacky conspiracies even if there's no evidence to support this

My favorite conspiracy theory - Asian kids bought the answers from Curie.

They didn’t buy the answers. They bought access to materials from a secured exam.

That’s not up for debate among serious people who know what is going on in Northern Virginia.

It was clear to everyone that this was going on. Not sure why some are trying to sweep it under the rug. Things had gotten so bad that the school board had to change the admission process since only wealthy applicants could afford to buy their way in.

Yes, it does seem odd they're trying to rewrite history to support this false narrative of a past that never was. Everyone who knows anything also was aware there was widespread cheating.

Agree under the new system the top kids are getting in not just those who require prep to give the appearance of gifted.

Test scores and the remedial math classes don't support your conclusion that "the top kids are getting in." I know the truth hurts, but just own it. Come out and say I don't care if the best and brightest are getting in, it's a county-wide school that needs to serve all of the taxpayers in the county so each middle school gets some seats and we aren't going to require a competitive math test to get in as we think a student body with ESL, URM, and low income students that may not fare as well on such a test is more important. Why is that so hard to come out and say that? FCPS pretty much said exactly this. Why can't the rest of us?

They actually do but some parents insist on spreading this false narrative. TJ is stronger than ever now that the playing field is level and they've put an end to cheaeting.

Discrimination against Asians does not make TJ stronger. And back up that cheating accusation with something. The county did not raise any alleged "cheating" in the lawsuit brought by Coalition for TJ. If there was any basis for the cheating narrative it would have come out. No such accusation has ever been made in a public forum.

DP. There was no need to bring it up from a legal perspective and would have just made the case muckier from an evidentiary standpoint.

Good points. The facts were already bad enough from FCPS's perspective than calling additional attention the facts would have made things that much worse for FCPS. They will only prevail if the appellate courts shut their eyes to the facts and pretend FCPS was starting from a blank slate when it adopted the new system.

LOL, you fancy yourself quite the legal eagle, don’t you.

It's hard to claim discrimination with a straight face when your 70% of a school.

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Anonymous wrote:Anecdotally, TJ has not been selecting the top students within a school, who would make the most use of the advanced classes.
I should say FCPS is not selecting the top students, as my understanding is TJ doesn't handle the admissions.

That is incorrect only the top 1.5% of students are selected from each school.

You are incorrect. Just because there is a minimum 1.5% set aside for each middle school doesn’t mean the top 1.5% apply or the top 1.5% are admitted. It’s a patronage system that will degrade the quality of the TJ student body and appeal of the school over time.

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Anonymous wrote:Not in the United States of America. Asians are like 6% of the population so that doesn’t add up. My daughter has 26 Asian students in a class of 31 but the whole state of Virginia is like 7%. SMH

FCPS is about 20% Asian students.

Then it's crazy to think there's discrimination when TJ is like 70% Asian.

Especially since selection is a race-blind process.

Many would prefer to believe in wacky conspiracies even if there's no evidence to support this

My favorite conspiracy theory - Asian kids bought the answers from Curie.

They didn’t buy the answers. They bought access to materials from a secured exam.

That’s not up for debate among serious people who know what is going on in Northern Virginia.

It was clear to everyone that this was going on. Not sure why some are trying to sweep it under the rug. Things had gotten so bad that the school board had to change the admission process since only wealthy applicants could afford to buy their way in.

Yes, it does seem odd they're trying to rewrite history to support this false narrative of a past that never was. Everyone who knows anything also was aware there was widespread cheating.

Agree under the new system the top kids are getting in not just those who require prep to give the appearance of gifted.

Test scores and the remedial math classes don't support your conclusion that "the top kids are getting in." I know the truth hurts, but just own it. Come out and say I don't care if the best and brightest are getting in, it's a county-wide school that needs to serve all of the taxpayers in the county so each middle school gets some seats and we aren't going to require a competitive math test to get in as we think a student body with ESL, URM, and low income students that may not fare as well on such a test is more important. Why is that so hard to come out and say that? FCPS pretty much said exactly this. Why can't the rest of us?

They actually do but some parents insist on spreading this false narrative. TJ is stronger than ever now that the playing field is level and they've put an end to cheaeting.

Discrimination against Asians does not make TJ stronger. And back up that cheating accusation with something. The county did not raise any alleged "cheating" in the lawsuit brought by Coalition for TJ. If there was any basis for the cheating narrative it would have come out. No such accusation has ever been made in a public forum.

DP. There was no need to bring it up from a legal perspective and would have just made the case muckier from an evidentiary standpoint.

Good points. The facts were already bad enough from FCPS's perspective than calling additional attention the facts would have made things that much worse for FCPS. They will only prevail if the appellate courts shut their eyes to the facts and pretend FCPS was starting from a blank slate when it adopted the new system.

LOL, you fancy yourself quite the legal eagle, don’t you.

It's hard to claim discrimination with a straight face when your 70% of a school.

It’s hard to take you seriously when you’re a bigoted idiot who can’t spell and doesn’t realize that Asians are not some monolithic group.

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Anonymous wrote:Not in the United States of America. Asians are like 6% of the population so that doesn’t add up. My daughter has 26 Asian students in a class of 31 but the whole state of Virginia is like 7%. SMH

FCPS is about 20% Asian students.

Then it's crazy to think there's discrimination when TJ is like 70% Asian.

Especially since selection is a race-blind process.

Many would prefer to believe in wacky conspiracies even if there's no evidence to support this

My favorite conspiracy theory - Asian kids bought the answers from Curie.

They didn’t buy the answers. They bought access to materials from a secured exam.

That’s not up for debate among serious people who know what is going on in Northern Virginia.

It was clear to everyone that this was going on. Not sure why some are trying to sweep it under the rug. Things had gotten so bad that the school board had to change the admission process since only wealthy applicants could afford to buy their way in.

Yes, it does seem odd they're trying to rewrite history to support this false narrative of a past that never was. Everyone who knows anything also was aware there was widespread cheating.

Agree under the new system the top kids are getting in not just those who require prep to give the appearance of gifted.

Test scores and the remedial math classes don't support your conclusion that "the top kids are getting in." I know the truth hurts, but just own it. Come out and say I don't care if the best and brightest are getting in, it's a county-wide school that needs to serve all of the taxpayers in the county so each middle school gets some seats and we aren't going to require a competitive math test to get in as we think a student body with ESL, URM, and low income students that may not fare as well on such a test is more important. Why is that so hard to come out and say that? FCPS pretty much said exactly this. Why can't the rest of us?

They actually do but some parents insist on spreading this false narrative. TJ is stronger than ever now that the playing field is level and they've put an end to cheaeting.

Discrimination against Asians does not make TJ stronger. And back up that cheating accusation with something. The county did not raise any alleged "cheating" in the lawsuit brought by Coalition for TJ. If there was any basis for the cheating narrative it would have come out. No such accusation has ever been made in a public forum.

DP. There was no need to bring it up from a legal perspective and would have just made the case muckier from an evidentiary standpoint.

Good points. The facts were already bad enough from FCPS's perspective than calling additional attention the facts would have made things that much worse for FCPS. They will only prevail if the appellate courts shut their eyes to the facts and pretend FCPS was starting from a blank slate when it adopted the new system.

LOL, you fancy yourself quite the legal eagle, don’t you.

It's hard to claim discrimination with a straight face when your 70% of a school.

The new racist admission policy illegally excluded qualified Asians and TJ is now about 56% Asians and it would be at least 85% Asians w/o the new form of illegal 'Chinese exclusion acts'.

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Anonymous wrote:Not in the United States of America. Asians are like 6% of the population so that doesn’t add up. My daughter has 26 Asian students in a class of 31 but the whole state of Virginia is like 7%. SMH

FCPS is about 20% Asian students.

Then it's crazy to think there's discrimination when TJ is like 70% Asian.

Especially since selection is a race-blind process.

Many would prefer to believe in wacky conspiracies even if there's no evidence to support this

My favorite conspiracy theory - Asian kids bought the answers from Curie.

They didn’t buy the answers. They bought access to materials from a secured exam.

That’s not up for debate among serious people who know what is going on in Northern Virginia.

It was clear to everyone that this was going on. Not sure why some are trying to sweep it under the rug. Things had gotten so bad that the school board had to change the admission process since only wealthy applicants could afford to buy their way in.

Yes, it does seem odd they're trying to rewrite history to support this false narrative of a past that never was. Everyone who knows anything also was aware there was widespread cheating.

Agree under the new system the top kids are getting in not just those who require prep to give the appearance of gifted.

Test scores and the remedial math classes don't support your conclusion that "the top kids are getting in." I know the truth hurts, but just own it. Come out and say I don't care if the best and brightest are getting in, it's a county-wide school that needs to serve all of the taxpayers in the county so each middle school gets some seats and we aren't going to require a competitive math test to get in as we think a student body with ESL, URM, and low income students that may not fare as well on such a test is more important. Why is that so hard to come out and say that? FCPS pretty much said exactly this. Why can't the rest of us?

They actually do but some parents insist on spreading this false narrative. TJ is stronger than ever now that the playing field is level and they've put an end to cheaeting.

Discrimination against Asians does not make TJ stronger. And back up that cheating accusation with something. The county did not raise any alleged "cheating" in the lawsuit brought by Coalition for TJ. If there was any basis for the cheating narrative it would have come out. No such accusation has ever been made in a public forum.

DP. There was no need to bring it up from a legal perspective and would have just made the case muckier from an evidentiary standpoint.

Good points. The facts were already bad enough from FCPS's perspective than calling additional attention the facts would have made things that much worse for FCPS. They will only prevail if the appellate courts shut their eyes to the facts and pretend FCPS was starting from a blank slate when it adopted the new system.

LOL, you fancy yourself quite the legal eagle, don’t you.

It's hard to claim discrimination with a straight face when your 70% of a school.

It’s hard to take you seriously when you’re a bigoted idiot who can’t spell and doesn’t realize that Asians are not some monolithic group.

Stop trying to apply reason and facts! It is really messing with these fringe conspiracy theories.

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Anonymous wrote:Not in the United States of America. Asians are like 6% of the population so that doesn’t add up. My daughter has 26 Asian students in a class of 31 but the whole state of Virginia is like 7%. SMH

FCPS is about 20% Asian students.

Then it's crazy to think there's discrimination when TJ is like 70% Asian.

Especially since selection is a race-blind process.

Many would prefer to believe in wacky conspiracies even if there's no evidence to support this

My favorite conspiracy theory - Asian kids bought the answers from Curie.

They didn’t buy the answers. They bought access to materials from a secured exam.

That’s not up for debate among serious people who know what is going on in Northern Virginia.

It was clear to everyone that this was going on. Not sure why some are trying to sweep it under the rug. Things had gotten so bad that the school board had to change the admission process since only wealthy applicants could afford to buy their way in.

Yes, it does seem odd they're trying to rewrite history to support this false narrative of a past that never was. Everyone who knows anything also was aware there was widespread cheating.

Agree under the new system the top kids are getting in not just those who require prep to give the appearance of gifted.

Test scores and the remedial math classes don't support your conclusion that "the top kids are getting in." I know the truth hurts, but just own it. Come out and say I don't care if the best and brightest are getting in, it's a county-wide school that needs to serve all of the taxpayers in the county so each middle school gets some seats and we aren't going to require a competitive math test to get in as we think a student body with ESL, URM, and low income students that may not fare as well on such a test is more important. Why is that so hard to come out and say that? FCPS pretty much said exactly this. Why can't the rest of us?

They actually do but some parents insist on spreading this false narrative. TJ is stronger than ever now that the playing field is level and they've put an end to cheaeting.

Discrimination against Asians does not make TJ stronger. And back up that cheating accusation with something. The county did not raise any alleged "cheating" in the lawsuit brought by Coalition for TJ. If there was any basis for the cheating narrative it would have come out. No such accusation has ever been made in a public forum.

DP. There was no need to bring it up from a legal perspective and would have just made the case muckier from an evidentiary standpoint.

Good points. The facts were already bad enough from FCPS's perspective than calling additional attention the facts would have made things that much worse for FCPS. They will only prevail if the appellate courts shut their eyes to the facts and pretend FCPS was starting from a blank slate when it adopted the new system.

LOL, you fancy yourself quite the legal eagle, don’t you.

It's hard to claim discrimination with a straight face when your 70% of a school.

So true!

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Anonymous wrote:Not in the United States of America. Asians are like 6% of the population so that doesn’t add up. My daughter has 26 Asian students in a class of 31 but the whole state of Virginia is like 7%. SMH

FCPS is about 20% Asian students.

Then it's crazy to think there's discrimination when TJ is like 70% Asian.

Especially since selection is a race-blind process.

Many would prefer to believe in wacky conspiracies even if there's no evidence to support this

My favorite conspiracy theory - Asian kids bought the answers from Curie.

They didn’t buy the answers. They bought access to materials from a secured exam.

That’s not up for debate among serious people who know what is going on in Northern Virginia.

It was clear to everyone that this was going on. Not sure why some are trying to sweep it under the rug. Things had gotten so bad that the school board had to change the admission process since only wealthy applicants could afford to buy their way in.

Yes, it does seem odd they're trying to rewrite history to support this false narrative of a past that never was. Everyone who knows anything also was aware there was widespread cheating.

Agree under the new system the top kids are getting in not just those who require prep to give the appearance of gifted.

Test scores and the remedial math classes don't support your conclusion that "the top kids are getting in." I know the truth hurts, but just own it. Come out and say I don't care if the best and brightest are getting in, it's a county-wide school that needs to serve all of the taxpayers in the county so each middle school gets some seats and we aren't going to require a competitive math test to get in as we think a student body with ESL, URM, and low income students that may not fare as well on such a test is more important. Why is that so hard to come out and say that? FCPS pretty much said exactly this. Why can't the rest of us?

They actually do but some parents insist on spreading this false narrative. TJ is stronger than ever now that the playing field is level and they've put an end to cheaeting.

Discrimination against Asians does not make TJ stronger. And back up that cheating accusation with something. The county did not raise any alleged "cheating" in the lawsuit brought by Coalition for TJ. If there was any basis for the cheating narrative it would have come out. No such accusation has ever been made in a public forum.

DP. There was no need to bring it up from a legal perspective and would have just made the case muckier from an evidentiary standpoint.

Good points. The facts were already bad enough from FCPS's perspective than calling additional attention the facts would have made things that much worse for FCPS. They will only prevail if the appellate courts shut their eyes to the facts and pretend FCPS was starting from a blank slate when it adopted the new system.

LOL, you fancy yourself quite the legal eagle, don’t you.

It's hard to claim discrimination with a straight face when your 70% of a school.

The new racist admission policy illegally excluded qualified Asians and TJ is now about 56% Asians and it would be at least 85% Asians w/o the new form of illegal 'Chinese exclusion acts'.

By qualified you mean kids that had access to the test answers from the prep center?

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Anonymous wrote:Not in the United States of America. Asians are like 6% of the population so that doesn’t add up. My daughter has 26 Asian students in a class of 31 but the whole state of Virginia is like 7%. SMH

FCPS is about 20% Asian students.

Then it's crazy to think there's discrimination when TJ is like 70% Asian.

Especially since selection is a race-blind process.

Many would prefer to believe in wacky conspiracies even if there's no evidence to support this

My favorite conspiracy theory - Asian kids bought the answers from Curie.

They didn’t buy the answers. They bought access to materials from a secured exam.

That’s not up for debate among serious people who know what is going on in Northern Virginia.

It was clear to everyone that this was going on. Not sure why some are trying to sweep it under the rug. Things had gotten so bad that the school board had to change the admission process since only wealthy applicants could afford to buy their way in.

Yes, it does seem odd they're trying to rewrite history to support this false narrative of a past that never was. Everyone who knows anything also was aware there was widespread cheating.

Agree under the new system the top kids are getting in not just those who require prep to give the appearance of gifted.

Test scores and the remedial math classes don't support your conclusion that "the top kids are getting in." I know the truth hurts, but just own it. Come out and say I don't care if the best and brightest are getting in, it's a county-wide school that needs to serve all of the taxpayers in the county so each middle school gets some seats and we aren't going to require a competitive math test to get in as we think a student body with ESL, URM, and low income students that may not fare as well on such a test is more important. Why is that so hard to come out and say that? FCPS pretty much said exactly this. Why can't the rest of us?

They actually do but some parents insist on spreading this false narrative. TJ is stronger than ever now that the playing field is level and they've put an end to cheaeting.

Discrimination against Asians does not make TJ stronger. And back up that cheating accusation with something. The county did not raise any alleged "cheating" in the lawsuit brought by Coalition for TJ. If there was any basis for the cheating narrative it would have come out. No such accusation has ever been made in a public forum.

DP. There was no need to bring it up from a legal perspective and would have just made the case muckier from an evidentiary standpoint.

Good points. The facts were already bad enough from FCPS's perspective than calling additional attention the facts would have made things that much worse for FCPS. They will only prevail if the appellate courts shut their eyes to the facts and pretend FCPS was starting from a blank slate when it adopted the new system.

LOL, you fancy yourself quite the legal eagle, don’t you.

It's hard to claim discrimination with a straight face when your 70% of a school.

The new racist admission policy illegally excluded qualified Asians and TJ is now about 56% Asians and it would be at least 85% Asians w/o the new form of illegal 'Chinese exclusion acts'.

DP. Um, the whole point of your discrimination claim is that Asians as a group are being discriminated against. Your discrimination argument falls apart if you look strictly at individuals because you cannot demonstrate discrimination against individual applicants.