TJ Discrimination Case

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Anonymous wrote:Voting Republican just because your angry about TJ admissions is short sighted. Haven’t you seen the pictures in the news of Republicans giving Trump the Nazi salute in mass? (It’s a very similar salute, and there were pictures of three moms on the street giving the full Nazi salute to Trump.) Did you not see Nov.6th? Do you think it will end well for our country when it is no longer a democracy?


So discrimination against Asians is cool because otherwise we're just ushering in Mussolini? Get a grip.

DP but get a grip. There is no discrimination against Asians when it comes to admission to TJ. Asians make up 20% of the students body in FCPS but take up to 70% of the seats at TJ.


Jews make up 2% of the population and 22-24% of the Ivy schools - some 11 times the size of the population. Complain about that before complaining of Asians.


PP isn't complaining about it; PP is illustrating why a court will not see a valid legal claim of disparate impact discrimination against a minority population that holds a majority of seats. There are two ways to prove discrimination, one of which is disparate impact. Disparate impact is proved by statistics and this case doesn't have numbers on its side, which was PP's point.


And if suddenly a single school was admitting them at only the rate of 15% of its student body I would think the same thing - that alleging discrimination doesn’t feel like strong ground to stand on when the admittance level is still so high.



And everyone expects it to continue to go back up close to its prior percentage level.

The new system is still gameable with moving and/or fraudulently filling out the free meals form being the two easiest ways to gain admittance.

It needs to be changed to either a lottery or an open enrollment academy model.


Oh no! The meals question was a stroke of genius. They were able to verify and catch many of the cheaters which helped detoxify TJ.


Did you not hear about the massive loophole?

As long as the family submits that their child is eligible using the online free and reduced price meals form, their child will get the bonus points.

FCPS does not verify income if you fill out the form in their website. It’s completely based on trust and there are absolutely parents who have and will continue to abuse this trust.
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Anonymous wrote:Voting Republican just because your angry about TJ admissions is short sighted. Haven’t you seen the pictures in the news of Republicans giving Trump the Nazi salute in mass? (It’s a very similar salute, and there were pictures of three moms on the street giving the full Nazi salute to Trump.) Did you not see Nov.6th? Do you think it will end well for our country when it is no longer a democracy?


So discrimination against Asians is cool because otherwise we're just ushering in Mussolini? Get a grip.

DP but get a grip. There is no discrimination against Asians when it comes to admission to TJ. Asians make up 20% of the students body in FCPS but take up to 70% of the seats at TJ.


Jews make up 2% of the population and 22-24% of the Ivy schools - some 11 times the size of the population. Complain about that before complaining of Asians.


PP isn't complaining about it; PP is illustrating why a court will not see a valid legal claim of disparate impact discrimination against a minority population that holds a majority of seats. There are two ways to prove discrimination, one of which is disparate impact. Disparate impact is proved by statistics and this case doesn't have numbers on its side, which was PP's point.


And if suddenly a single school was admitting them at only the rate of 15% of its student body I would think the same thing - that alleging discrimination doesn’t feel like strong ground to stand on when the admittance level is still so high.



And everyone expects it to continue to go back up close to its prior percentage level.

The new system is still gameable with moving and/or fraudulently filling out the free meals form being the two easiest ways to gain admittance.

It needs to be changed to either a lottery or an open enrollment academy model.


Oh no! The meals question was a stroke of genius. They were able to verify and catch many of the cheaters which helped detoxify TJ.


Did you not hear about the massive loophole?

As long as the family submits that their child is eligible using the online free and reduced price meals form, their child will get the bonus points.

FCPS does not verify income if you fill out the form in their website. It’s completely based on trust and there are absolutely parents who have and will continue to abuse this trust.


Not sure where you got this nonsense from but that's not true at all. They required documentation from those who claimed this and those who were unable to provide it were kicked from the program.
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Anonymous wrote:Some will fight the decline in TU’s standing and reputation but it is already happening and now seems inexorable.


Well, then you should be glad to hear that's not what is happening. The 3rd tier preppers who only got in before because they had access to the test were replaced with students who have greater potential and natural ability. All indications suggest this has greatly improved TJ.
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Anonymous wrote:Voting Republican just because your angry about TJ admissions is short sighted. Haven’t you seen the pictures in the news of Republicans giving Trump the Nazi salute in mass? (It’s a very similar salute, and there were pictures of three moms on the street giving the full Nazi salute to Trump.) Did you not see Nov.6th? Do you think it will end well for our country when it is no longer a democracy?


So discrimination against Asians is cool because otherwise we're just ushering in Mussolini? Get a grip.

DP but get a grip. There is no discrimination against Asians when it comes to admission to TJ. Asians make up 20% of the students body in FCPS but take up to 70% of the seats at TJ.


Jews make up 2% of the population and 22-24% of the Ivy schools - some 11 times the size of the population. Complain about that before complaining of Asians.


PP isn't complaining about it; PP is illustrating why a court will not see a valid legal claim of disparate impact discrimination against a minority population that holds a majority of seats. There are two ways to prove discrimination, one of which is disparate impact. Disparate impact is proved by statistics and this case doesn't have numbers on its side, which was PP's point.


Now do disparate treatment (discriminatory intent).

Also, in considering disparate impact, some would look at who was affected the most by the change, which is another statistic, and not just at whether a particular group remains “over-represented.”


The intent was to level the playing field after there had been widespread cheating (e.g. people buying test answers).


The intent was to reduce the percentage of Asian kids and increase the percentage of non-Asian kids living in three magisterial districts - Lee (now Franconia), Mason, and Mount Vernon - who couldn't get into TJ on merit.


How did you ignore the CHEATING. Very telling.
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Anonymous wrote:Voting Republican just because your angry about TJ admissions is short sighted. Haven’t you seen the pictures in the news of Republicans giving Trump the Nazi salute in mass? (It’s a very similar salute, and there were pictures of three moms on the street giving the full Nazi salute to Trump.) Did you not see Nov.6th? Do you think it will end well for our country when it is no longer a democracy?


So discrimination against Asians is cool because otherwise we're just ushering in Mussolini? Get a grip.

DP but get a grip. There is no discrimination against Asians when it comes to admission to TJ. Asians make up 20% of the students body in FCPS but take up to 70% of the seats at TJ.


Jews make up 2% of the population and 22-24% of the Ivy schools - some 11 times the size of the population. Complain about that before complaining of Asians.


PP isn't complaining about it; PP is illustrating why a court will not see a valid legal claim of disparate impact discrimination against a minority population that holds a majority of seats. There are two ways to prove discrimination, one of which is disparate impact. Disparate impact is proved by statistics and this case doesn't have numbers on its side, which was PP's point.


And if suddenly a single school was admitting them at only the rate of 15% of its student body I would think the same thing - that alleging discrimination doesn’t feel like strong ground to stand on when the admittance level is still so high.



And everyone expects it to continue to go back up close to its prior percentage level.

The new system is still gameable with moving and/or fraudulently filling out the free meals form being the two easiest ways to gain admittance.

It needs to be changed to either a lottery or an open enrollment academy model.


Oh no! The meals question was a stroke of genius. They were able to verify and catch many of the cheaters which helped detoxify TJ.


Did you not hear about the massive loophole?

As long as the family submits that their child is eligible using the online free and reduced price meals form, their child will get the bonus points.

FCPS does not verify income if you fill out the form in their website. It’s completely based on trust and there are absolutely parents who have and will continue to abuse this trust.


Not sure where you got this nonsense from but that's not true at all. They required documentation from those who claimed this and those who were unable to provide it were kicked from the program.


Only documentation required is the fact that you applied for farms program. Major screwup.
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Anonymous wrote:Voting Republican just because your angry about TJ admissions is short sighted. Haven’t you seen the pictures in the news of Republicans giving Trump the Nazi salute in mass? (It’s a very similar salute, and there were pictures of three moms on the street giving the full Nazi salute to Trump.) Did you not see Nov.6th? Do you think it will end well for our country when it is no longer a democracy?


So discrimination against Asians is cool because otherwise we're just ushering in Mussolini? Get a grip.

DP but get a grip. There is no discrimination against Asians when it comes to admission to TJ. Asians make up 20% of the students body in FCPS but take up to 70% of the seats at TJ.


Jews make up 2% of the population and 22-24% of the Ivy schools - some 11 times the size of the population. Complain about that before complaining of Asians.


PP isn't complaining about it; PP is illustrating why a court will not see a valid legal claim of disparate impact discrimination against a minority population that holds a majority of seats. There are two ways to prove discrimination, one of which is disparate impact. Disparate impact is proved by statistics and this case doesn't have numbers on its side, which was PP's point.


And if suddenly a single school was admitting them at only the rate of 15% of its student body I would think the same thing - that alleging discrimination doesn’t feel like strong ground to stand on when the admittance level is still so high.



And everyone expects it to continue to go back up close to its prior percentage level.

The new system is still gameable with moving and/or fraudulently filling out the free meals form being the two easiest ways to gain admittance.

It needs to be changed to either a lottery or an open enrollment academy model.


Oh no! The meals question was a stroke of genius. They were able to verify and catch many of the cheaters which helped detoxify TJ.


Did you not hear about the massive loophole?

As long as the family submits that their child is eligible using the online free and reduced price meals form, their child will get the bonus points.

FCPS does not verify income if you fill out the form in their website. It’s completely based on trust and there are absolutely parents who have and will continue to abuse this trust.


Not sure where you got this nonsense from but that's not true at all. They required documentation from those who claimed this and those who were unable to provide it were kicked from the program.


Only documentation required is the fact that you applied for farms program. Major screwup.


You had to show that you received free lunch. Please stop spreading misinformation. Many people who lied were removed from the program. I personally thought it was a great way to remove the more toxic applicants.
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Anonymous wrote:Voting Republican just because your angry about TJ admissions is short sighted. Haven’t you seen the pictures in the news of Republicans giving Trump the Nazi salute in mass? (It’s a very similar salute, and there were pictures of three moms on the street giving the full Nazi salute to Trump.) Did you not see Nov.6th? Do you think it will end well for our country when it is no longer a democracy?


So discrimination against Asians is cool because otherwise we're just ushering in Mussolini? Get a grip.

DP but get a grip. There is no discrimination against Asians when it comes to admission to TJ. Asians make up 20% of the students body in FCPS but take up to 70% of the seats at TJ.


Jews make up 2% of the population and 22-24% of the Ivy schools - some 11 times the size of the population. Complain about that before complaining of Asians.


PP isn't complaining about it; PP is illustrating why a court will not see a valid legal claim of disparate impact discrimination against a minority population that holds a majority of seats. There are two ways to prove discrimination, one of which is disparate impact. Disparate impact is proved by statistics and this case doesn't have numbers on its side, which was PP's point.


And if suddenly a single school was admitting them at only the rate of 15% of its student body I would think the same thing - that alleging discrimination doesn’t feel like strong ground to stand on when the admittance level is still so high.



And everyone expects it to continue to go back up close to its prior percentage level.

The new system is still gameable with moving and/or fraudulently filling out the free meals form being the two easiest ways to gain admittance.

It needs to be changed to either a lottery or an open enrollment academy model.


Oh no! The meals question was a stroke of genius. They were able to verify and catch many of the cheaters which helped detoxify TJ.


Did you not hear about the massive loophole?

As long as the family submits that their child is eligible using the online free and reduced price meals form, their child will get the bonus points.

FCPS does not verify income if you fill out the form in their website. It’s completely based on trust and there are absolutely parents who have and will continue to abuse this trust.


Not sure where you got this nonsense from but that's not true at all. They required documentation from those who claimed this and those who were unable to provide it were kicked from the program.


Only documentation required is the fact that you applied for farms program. Major screwup.


Last year the school required parents submit proof that they were FARMs eligible. Kids who could not lost the points associated with that question. The kids whose point total dropped were compared to their peers and some had their invitations pulled. It was not an automatic “You lost the points, you are gone” thing but the kids who dropped below the point total for being accepted were removed.

I would think twice about checking that you are a FARMs family if you are not because they did check and kids did lose their spot if they could not prove they were a FARMs family.
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Anonymous wrote:Voting Republican just because your angry about TJ admissions is short sighted. Haven’t you seen the pictures in the news of Republicans giving Trump the Nazi salute in mass? (It’s a very similar salute, and there were pictures of three moms on the street giving the full Nazi salute to Trump.) Did you not see Nov.6th? Do you think it will end well for our country when it is no longer a democracy?


So discrimination against Asians is cool because otherwise we're just ushering in Mussolini? Get a grip.

DP but get a grip. There is no discrimination against Asians when it comes to admission to TJ. Asians make up 20% of the students body in FCPS but take up to 70% of the seats at TJ.


Jews make up 2% of the population and 22-24% of the Ivy schools - some 11 times the size of the population. Complain about that before complaining of Asians.


PP isn't complaining about it; PP is illustrating why a court will not see a valid legal claim of disparate impact discrimination against a minority population that holds a majority of seats. There are two ways to prove discrimination, one of which is disparate impact. Disparate impact is proved by statistics and this case doesn't have numbers on its side, which was PP's point.


And if suddenly a single school was admitting them at only the rate of 15% of its student body I would think the same thing - that alleging discrimination doesn’t feel like strong ground to stand on when the admittance level is still so high.



And everyone expects it to continue to go back up close to its prior percentage level.

The new system is still gameable with moving and/or fraudulently filling out the free meals form being the two easiest ways to gain admittance.

It needs to be changed to either a lottery or an open enrollment academy model.


Oh no! The meals question was a stroke of genius. They were able to verify and catch many of the cheaters which helped detoxify TJ.


Did you not hear about the massive loophole?

As long as the family submits that their child is eligible using the online free and reduced price meals form, their child will get the bonus points.

FCPS does not verify income if you fill out the form in their website. It’s completely based on trust and there are absolutely parents who have and will continue to abuse this trust.


Not sure where you got this nonsense from but that's not true at all. They required documentation from those who claimed this and those who were unable to provide it were kicked from the program.


Only documentation required is the fact that you applied for farms program. Major screwup.


Last year the school required parents submit proof that they were FARMs eligible. Kids who could not lost the points associated with that question. The kids whose point total dropped were compared to their peers and some had their invitations pulled. It was not an automatic “You lost the points, you are gone” thing but the kids who dropped below the point total for being accepted were removed.

I would think twice about checking that you are a FARMs family if you are not because they did check and kids did lose their spot if they could not prove they were a FARMs family.


Stop covering up for FCPS screw ups and spreading disinformation.
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Anonymous wrote:Voting Republican just because your angry about TJ admissions is short sighted. Haven’t you seen the pictures in the news of Republicans giving Trump the Nazi salute in mass? (It’s a very similar salute, and there were pictures of three moms on the street giving the full Nazi salute to Trump.) Did you not see Nov.6th? Do you think it will end well for our country when it is no longer a democracy?


So discrimination against Asians is cool because otherwise we're just ushering in Mussolini? Get a grip.

DP but get a grip. There is no discrimination against Asians when it comes to admission to TJ. Asians make up 20% of the students body in FCPS but take up to 70% of the seats at TJ.


Jews make up 2% of the population and 22-24% of the Ivy schools - some 11 times the size of the population. Complain about that before complaining of Asians.


PP isn't complaining about it; PP is illustrating why a court will not see a valid legal claim of disparate impact discrimination against a minority population that holds a majority of seats. There are two ways to prove discrimination, one of which is disparate impact. Disparate impact is proved by statistics and this case doesn't have numbers on its side, which was PP's point.


And if suddenly a single school was admitting them at only the rate of 15% of its student body I would think the same thing - that alleging discrimination doesn’t feel like strong ground to stand on when the admittance level is still so high.





And everyone expects it to continue to go back up close to its prior percentage level.

The new system is still gameable with moving and/or fraudulently filling out the free meals form being the two easiest ways to gain admittance.

It needs to be changed to either a lottery or an open enrollment academy model.


Oh no! The meals question was a stroke of genius. They were able to verify and catch many of the cheaters which helped detoxify TJ.


Did you not hear about the massive loophole?

As long as the family submits that their child is eligible using the online free and reduced price meals form, their child will get the bonus points.

FCPS does not verify income if you fill out the form in their website. It’s completely based on trust and there are absolutely parents who have and will continue to abuse this trust.


Not sure where you got this nonsense from but that's not true at all. They required documentation from those who claimed this and those who were unable to provide it were kicked from the program.


Only documentation required is the fact that you applied for farms program. Major screwup.


Last year the school required parents submit proof that they were FARMs eligible. Kids who could not lost the points associated with that question. The kids whose point total dropped were compared to their peers and some had their invitations pulled. It was not an automatic “You lost the points, you are gone” thing but the kids who dropped below the point total for being accepted were removed.

I would think twice about checking that you are a FARMs family if you are not because they did check and kids did lose their spot if they could not prove they were a FARMs family.


Stop covering up for FCPS screw ups and spreading disinformation.


FCPS screwed up how they did things, they should have told people that they would have to provide proof of eligibility. That is about the extent of it.
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Anonymous wrote:Voting Republican just because your angry about TJ admissions is short sighted. Haven’t you seen the pictures in the news of Republicans giving Trump the Nazi salute in mass? (It’s a very similar salute, and there were pictures of three moms on the street giving the full Nazi salute to Trump.) Did you not see Nov.6th? Do you think it will end well for our country when it is no longer a democracy?


So discrimination against Asians is cool because otherwise we're just ushering in Mussolini? Get a grip.

DP but get a grip. There is no discrimination against Asians when it comes to admission to TJ. Asians make up 20% of the students body in FCPS but take up to 70% of the seats at TJ.


Jews make up 2% of the population and 22-24% of the Ivy schools - some 11 times the size of the population. Complain about that before complaining of Asians.


PP isn't complaining about it; PP is illustrating why a court will not see a valid legal claim of disparate impact discrimination against a minority population that holds a majority of seats. There are two ways to prove discrimination, one of which is disparate impact. Disparate impact is proved by statistics and this case doesn't have numbers on its side, which was PP's point.


And if suddenly a single school was admitting them at only the rate of 15% of its student body I would think the same thing - that alleging discrimination doesn’t feel like strong ground to stand on when the admittance level is still so high.





And everyone expects it to continue to go back up close to its prior percentage level.

The new system is still gameable with moving and/or fraudulently filling out the free meals form being the two easiest ways to gain admittance.

It needs to be changed to either a lottery or an open enrollment academy model.


Oh no! The meals question was a stroke of genius. They were able to verify and catch many of the cheaters which helped detoxify TJ.


Did you not hear about the massive loophole?

As long as the family submits that their child is eligible using the online free and reduced price meals form, their child will get the bonus points.

FCPS does not verify income if you fill out the form in their website. It’s completely based on trust and there are absolutely parents who have and will continue to abuse this trust.


Not sure where you got this nonsense from but that's not true at all. They required documentation from those who claimed this and those who were unable to provide it were kicked from the program.


Only documentation required is the fact that you applied for farms program. Major screwup.


Last year the school required parents submit proof that they were FARMs eligible. Kids who could not lost the points associated with that question. The kids whose point total dropped were compared to their peers and some had their invitations pulled. It was not an automatic “You lost the points, you are gone” thing but the kids who dropped below the point total for being accepted were removed.

I would think twice about checking that you are a FARMs family if you are not because they did check and kids did lose their spot if they could not prove they were a FARMs family.


Stop covering up for FCPS screw ups and spreading disinformation.


FCPS screwed up how they did things, they should have told people that they would have to provide proof of eligibility. That is about the extent of it.


Fake news.
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Seriously. If there was Snake Younkin would have been all over if with law suites and appearances on Fox News talking about it.

The fact that he and the AG are quite on this, is telling there was no such loop holes.

But people will still hold on to some conspiracy. Gives them a sense of purpose, I guess?
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Anonymous wrote:Some will fight the decline in TU’s standing and reputation but it is already happening and now seems inexorable.


Where is all of your evidence for this declined standing? All it sounds like to me is a bunch of sour mango lassi.
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Anonymous wrote:Voting Republican just because your angry about TJ admissions is short sighted. Haven’t you seen the pictures in the news of Republicans giving Trump the Nazi salute in mass? (It’s a very similar salute, and there were pictures of three moms on the street giving the full Nazi salute to Trump.) Did you not see Nov.6th? Do you think it will end well for our country when it is no longer a democracy?


So discrimination against Asians is cool because otherwise we're just ushering in Mussolini? Get a grip.

DP but get a grip. There is no discrimination against Asians when it comes to admission to TJ. Asians make up 20% of the students body in FCPS but take up to 70% of the seats at TJ.


Jews make up 2% of the population and 22-24% of the Ivy schools - some 11 times the size of the population. Complain about that before complaining of Asians.


PP isn't complaining about it; PP is illustrating why a court will not see a valid legal claim of disparate impact discrimination against a minority population that holds a majority of seats. There are two ways to prove discrimination, one of which is disparate impact. Disparate impact is proved by statistics and this case doesn't have numbers on its side, which was PP's point.


And if suddenly a single school was admitting them at only the rate of 15% of its student body I would think the same thing - that alleging discrimination doesn’t feel like strong ground to stand on when the admittance level is still so high.



And everyone expects it to continue to go back up close to its prior percentage level.

The new system is still gameable with moving and/or fraudulently filling out the free meals form being the two easiest ways to gain admittance.

It needs to be changed to either a lottery or an open enrollment academy model.


Oh no! The meals question was a stroke of genius. They were able to verify and catch many of the cheaters which helped detoxify TJ.


Did you not hear about the massive loophole?

As long as the family submits that their child is eligible using the online free and reduced price meals form, their child will get the bonus points.

FCPS does not verify income if you fill out the form in their website. It’s completely based on trust and there are absolutely parents who have and will continue to abuse this trust.


Not sure where you got this nonsense from but that's not true at all. They required documentation from those who claimed this and those who were unable to provide it were kicked from the program.


No documentation is required if the FARMS forms are filed with the child’s middle school.
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Anonymous wrote:Voting Republican just because your angry about TJ admissions is short sighted. Haven’t you seen the pictures in the news of Republicans giving Trump the Nazi salute in mass? (It’s a very similar salute, and there were pictures of three moms on the street giving the full Nazi salute to Trump.) Did you not see Nov.6th? Do you think it will end well for our country when it is no longer a democracy?


So discrimination against Asians is cool because otherwise we're just ushering in Mussolini? Get a grip.

DP but get a grip. There is no discrimination against Asians when it comes to admission to TJ. Asians make up 20% of the students body in FCPS but take up to 70% of the seats at TJ.


Jews make up 2% of the population and 22-24% of the Ivy schools - some 11 times the size of the population. Complain about that before complaining of Asians.


PP isn't complaining about it; PP is illustrating why a court will not see a valid legal claim of disparate impact discrimination against a minority population that holds a majority of seats. There are two ways to prove discrimination, one of which is disparate impact. Disparate impact is proved by statistics and this case doesn't have numbers on its side, which was PP's point.


And if suddenly a single school was admitting them at only the rate of 15% of its student body I would think the same thing - that alleging discrimination doesn’t feel like strong ground to stand on when the admittance level is still so high.



And everyone expects it to continue to go back up close to its prior percentage level.

The new system is still gameable with moving and/or fraudulently filling out the free meals form being the two easiest ways to gain admittance.

It needs to be changed to either a lottery or an open enrollment academy model.


Oh no! The meals question was a stroke of genius. They were able to verify and catch many of the cheaters which helped detoxify TJ.


Did you not hear about the massive loophole?

As long as the family submits that their child is eligible using the online free and reduced price meals form, their child will get the bonus points.

FCPS does not verify income if you fill out the form in their website. It’s completely based on trust and there are absolutely parents who have and will continue to abuse this trust.


Not sure where you got this nonsense from but that's not true at all. They required documentation from those who claimed this and those who were unable to provide it were kicked from the program.


No documentation is required if the FARMS forms are filed with the child’s middle school.


And the FARMS forms do not require documentation.

This is terrible.
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Anonymous wrote:Voting Republican just because your angry about TJ admissions is short sighted. Haven’t you seen the pictures in the news of Republicans giving Trump the Nazi salute in mass? (It’s a very similar salute, and there were pictures of three moms on the street giving the full Nazi salute to Trump.) Did you not see Nov.6th? Do you think it will end well for our country when it is no longer a democracy?


So discrimination against Asians is cool because otherwise we're just ushering in Mussolini? Get a grip.

DP but get a grip. There is no discrimination against Asians when it comes to admission to TJ. Asians make up 20% of the students body in FCPS but take up to 70% of the seats at TJ.


Jews make up 2% of the population and 22-24% of the Ivy schools - some 11 times the size of the population. Complain about that before complaining of Asians.


PP isn't complaining about it; PP is illustrating why a court will not see a valid legal claim of disparate impact discrimination against a minority population that holds a majority of seats. There are two ways to prove discrimination, one of which is disparate impact. Disparate impact is proved by statistics and this case doesn't have numbers on its side, which was PP's point.


And if suddenly a single school was admitting them at only the rate of 15% of its student body I would think the same thing - that alleging discrimination doesn’t feel like strong ground to stand on when the admittance level is still so high.



And everyone expects it to continue to go back up close to its prior percentage level.

The new system is still gameable with moving and/or fraudulently filling out the free meals form being the two easiest ways to gain admittance.

It needs to be changed to either a lottery or an open enrollment academy model.


Oh no! The meals question was a stroke of genius. They were able to verify and catch many of the cheaters which helped detoxify TJ.


Did you not hear about the massive loophole?

As long as the family submits that their child is eligible using the online free and reduced price meals form, their child will get the bonus points.

FCPS does not verify income if you fill out the form in their website. It’s completely based on trust and there are absolutely parents who have and will continue to abuse this trust.


Not sure where you got this nonsense from but that's not true at all. They required documentation from those who claimed this and those who were unable to provide it were kicked from the program.


No documentation is required if the FARMS forms are filed with the child’s middle school.


And the FARMS forms do not require documentation.

This is terrible.


No documentation is required. If a parent is willing to lie, they can get the FARMS bonus got their child in the TJ admissions.

https://www.fcps.edu/frm
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