McLean to Explore Separating from FC & FCPS

[Anonymous]

I think this could be a nice place to live if we had more local control over our schools and weren’t held back by the huge bureaucracy. As it is, we’re disgusted with FCPS and looking to move soon. If PP thinks people would vote with their feet if they had to pay higher taxes in a new city in McLean, he’s missing the bigger picture of those of us already fed up with FCPS and its ridiculous School Board.

[Anonymous]

You mean the bird McLean residents voted for?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think this could be a nice place to live if we had more local control over our schools and weren’t held back by the huge bureaucracy. As it is, we’re disgusted with FCPS and looking to move soon. If PP thinks people would vote with their feet if they had to pay higher taxes in a new city in McLean, he’s missing the bigger picture of those of us already fed up with FCPS and its ridiculous School Board.

On the contrary, I think the 7:53 PP is in fact painting the bigger picture that folks who are disgusted with FCPS are missing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Falls Church City says otherwise. It’s a smaller jurisdiction than a new McLean City would be and people move into FCC to avoid the horrible bureaucracy and mismanagement of FCPS.

Either McLean and Great Falls organize hard to separate from FCPS or they watch their communities deteriorate as FCPS lets McLean HS stagnate and eventually finds a way to shovel 1/2 of Great Falls out of Langley HS into Herndon HS. Lackluster do-nothing elected officials like John Foust and Elaine Tholen won’t do a thing for us and, even if they had a backbone, they’d get steamrolled by those in control of FC/FCPS now - a coalition of SJWs and pork-barrel politicians from southern Fairfax United in their desire to deliver as few services to Great Falls and McLean as possible, but more than happy to take our tax dollars.

Yowza. I'd hate to live in your mind or household.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Falls Church City says otherwise. It’s a smaller jurisdiction than a new McLean City would be and people move into FCC to avoid the horrible bureaucracy and mismanagement of FCPS.

Either McLean and Great Falls organize hard to separate from FCPS or they watch their communities deteriorate as FCPS lets McLean HS stagnate and eventually finds a way to shovel 1/2 of Great Falls out of Langley HS into Herndon HS. Lackluster do-nothing elected officials like John Foust and Elaine Tholen won’t do a thing for us and, even if they had a backbone, they’d get steamrolled by those in control of FC/FCPS now - a coalition of SJWs and pork-barrel politicians from southern Fairfax United in their desire to deliver as few services to Great Falls and McLean as possible, but more than happy to take our tax dollars.

Yowza. I'd hate to live in your mind or household.

I’m sorry for your children, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this could be a nice place to live if we had more local control over our schools and weren’t held back by the huge bureaucracy. As it is, we’re disgusted with FCPS and looking to move soon. If PP thinks people would vote with their feet if they had to pay higher taxes in a new city in McLean, he’s missing the bigger picture of those of us already fed up with FCPS and its ridiculous School Board.

On the contrary, I think the 7:53 PP is in fact painting the bigger picture that folks who are disgusted with FCPS are missing.

It was an exercise in stating the obvious. Of course there would be hurdles and higher taxes as well. However, creating a separate jurisdiction is doable so long as the state doesn’t erect insurmountable barriers, and FC/FCPS has become a case study in why many people prefer not to live in political jurisdictions with over 1 million people. Fairfax County has more people than DC and at least six states and its school system, in particular, is poorly managed.

[Anonymous]

You can be a Democrat and think a 12-0 Democrat School Board where members prioritize getting along with each other and not making waves over sticking up for their constituents is a bad thing. That’s what we have in FCPS now.

[Anonymous]

I do support localized control for school districts, but in this case becoming a separate city is too expensive and outweighs benefits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do support localized control for school districts, but in this case becoming a separate city is too expensive and outweighs benefits.

That’s because you may not have fully considered the costs of continuing down the current path.

[Anonymous]

Contracting of certain services to FC in this scenario seems reasonable and not-at-all uncommon... but I’d like to see some actual budgets/estimates of what the revenues and costs of a hypothetical City of McLean would be before forming an opinion about it. I assume we’re too early in the process for that, but that’s the point at which I’d actually start paying closer attention to (and supporting/opposing) the idea.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Falls Church City says otherwise. It’s a smaller jurisdiction than a new McLean City would be and people move into FCC to avoid the horrible bureaucracy and mismanagement of FCPS.

Either McLean and Great Falls organize hard to separate from FCPS or they watch their communities deteriorate as FCPS lets McLean HS stagnate and eventually finds a way to shovel 1/2 of Great Falls out of Langley HS into Herndon HS. Lackluster do-nothing elected officials like John Foust and Elaine Tholen won’t do a thing for us and, even if they had a backbone, they’d get steamrolled by those in control of FC/FCPS now - a coalition of SJWs and pork-barrel politicians from southern Fairfax United in their desire to deliver as few services to Great Falls and McLean as possible, but more than happy to take our tax dollars.

Yowza. I'd hate to live in your mind or household.

Nope. That PP is 100 percent on target. I’m sure his or her mind and household is lovely. Sorry you don’t like the blunt talk, though.

[Anonymous]

The MCA (and GFCA) have a lot of members with the skill set to map out what the potential budgets might look like. There are some services that might require higher spending than average in the county, but also others where a new jurisdiction could operate more leanly and certainly more efficiently than the county and FCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Falls Church City says otherwise. It’s a smaller jurisdiction than a new McLean City would be and people move into FCC to avoid the horrible bureaucracy and mismanagement of FCPS.

Either McLean and Great Falls organize hard to separate from FCPS or they watch their communities deteriorate as FCPS lets McLean HS stagnate and eventually finds a way to shovel 1/2 of Great Falls out of Langley HS into Herndon HS. Lackluster do-nothing elected officials like John Foust and Elaine Tholen won’t do a thing for us and, even if they had a backbone, they’d get steamrolled by those in control of FC/FCPS now - a coalition of SJWs and pork-barrel politicians from southern Fairfax United in their desire to deliver as few services to Great Falls and McLean as possible, but more than happy to take our tax dollars.

+1,000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The MCA (and GFCA) have a lot of members with the skill set to map out what the potential budgets might look like. There are some services that might require higher spending than average in the county, but also others where a new jurisdiction could operate more leanly and certainly more efficiently than the county and FCPS.

LMAO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Falls Church City says otherwise. It’s a smaller jurisdiction than a new McLean City would be and people move into FCC to avoid the horrible bureaucracy and mismanagement of FCPS.

Either McLean and Great Falls organize hard to separate from FCPS or they watch their communities deteriorate as FCPS lets McLean HS stagnate and eventually finds a way to shovel 1/2 of Great Falls out of Langley HS into Herndon HS. Lackluster do-nothing elected officials like John Foust and Elaine Tholen won’t do a thing for us and, even if they had a backbone, they’d get steamrolled by those in control of FC/FCPS now - a coalition of SJWs and pork-barrel politicians from southern Fairfax United in their desire to deliver as few services to Great Falls and McLean as possible, but more than happy to take our tax dollars.

Yowza. I'd hate to live in your mind or household.

Nope. That PP is 100 percent on target. I’m sure his or her mind and household is lovely. Sorry you don’t like the blunt talk, though.

It’s not blunt talk. It’s ignorant, baseless, and fueled by emotion, not by reason.