Man asked woman to leash her dog in a public park -- she called the police on him

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:She is probably having a mental breakdown with fear of the pandemic, hence why she got the dog, probably for protection. I had friends in NYC, PTSD is a thing, nonstop ambuolances, the refrigerated morgues on the street.

I mean, she is vile, don’t get me wrong, the gentleman was so measured, but clearly she was unhinged.


He was setting her up for this to happen and wanted his 5 minutes of fame which he got. There was no reason to record her. There was no reason to provoke her. She may have been raped or attacked in the past which caused her to panic. Both were wrong.


Really - that is your takeaway?


Recording someone isn't provocation or threatening.

And he didn't post the recording - so what 5 minutes of fame?

Just admit she was wrong and tried to get a bird watcher shot by the police for asking her to politely LEASH HER DOG.


Yes, it is provoking and setting someone up by recording them. You don't record people without permission.


Wrong. You do not need permission to film someone in public under NY law. He was in the right there.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This lady should have just put a leash on the dog. She had a leash with her, that's what I would have done.

Him filming her and giving her dog treats is so weird. Why the f&ck is he carrying around dog treats if he does not have a dog? He wants to piss some people off?

She starts dragging the dog by the collar as a defiant act not to put the leash on which was sad.

Then she called the police and started talking about an African American man attacking her. Huh? Not only was he not attacking her but filming the whole thing.

Who starts filming someone because they don't comply with a request?

Very strange situation.


I guess you are not a black male? A few words from a white woman can get you killed. Even when you record the interaction there are people like you who thinks she is the victim. Weird.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She is probably having a mental breakdown with fear of the pandemic, hence why she got the dog, probably for protection. I had friends in NYC, PTSD is a thing, nonstop ambuolances, the refrigerated morgues on the street.

I mean, she is vile, don’t get me wrong, the gentleman was so measured, but clearly she was unhinged.


UMM no. Her dog walker confirmed he walked the same dog for her TWO YEARS AGO.

Mental breakdown my butt. She deliberated decided to off-leash her dog in Central Park and when called on it - decided to both harass that person and get the police to do the same.


He was recording her and harassing her.


She is a racist and totally in the wrong. But I also think the man’s comments to her about hurting the dog and his calling her Karen in his post make him look less than perfect. BUT that’s peripheral - The video shows what black people still have to deal with.


Please highlight his comments “about hurting the dog”. And where he called her “Karen”. I’ve read and re-read his comments - as well as his sister’s post and his Facebook post and I see No such comments.


Then he calls the police like a normal adult and not taking the law into his own hands.


You mean a normal "white" adult. The rules aren't the same for black people. When the police are called, they die.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If a stranger told you that he was going to do what he wants to do, and you were not going to like it ——-in a secluded part of the park during a pandemic (so it’s even more secluded) would you feel threatened or not? regardless of the mans race. If you were single woman how would you feel? Also would you like a stranger or you just had an altercation with the offer your dog a treat or any stranger for that matter?

I would consider it a threat because it is a threat. But even so I would hesitate to turn my back on the creep. After I got a safe distance I would call the police, whether the guy was black white or purple.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This lady should have just put a leash on the dog. She had a leash with her, that's what I would have done.

Him filming her and giving her dog treats is so weird. Why the f&ck is he carrying around dog treats if he does not have a dog? He wants to piss some people off?

She starts dragging the dog by the collar as a defiant act not to put the leash on which was sad.

Then she called the police and started talking about an African American man attacking her. Huh? Not only was he not attacking her but filming the whole thing.

Who starts filming someone because they don't comply with a request?

Very strange situation.


I guess you are not a black male? A few words from a white woman can get you killed. Even when you record the interaction there are people like you who thinks she is the victim. Weird.


You are so ridiculous.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This lady should have just put a leash on the dog. She had a leash with her, that's what I would have done.

Him filming her and giving her dog treats is so weird. Why the f&ck is he carrying around dog treats if he does not have a dog? He wants to piss some people off?

She starts dragging the dog by the collar as a defiant act not to put the leash on which was sad.

Then she called the police and started talking about an African American man attacking her. Huh? Not only was he not attacking her but filming the whole thing.

Who starts filming someone because they don't comply with a request?

Very strange situation.



I think the fact that she didn’t simply slip the leash through the collar and instead had a death grip on the dog shows she was actually fearful. And angry. I don’t blame her. What a creepy guy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This lady should have just put a leash on the dog. She had a leash with her, that's what I would have done.

Him filming her and giving her dog treats is so weird. Why the f&ck is he carrying around dog treats if he does not have a dog? He wants to piss some people off?

She starts dragging the dog by the collar as a defiant act not to put the leash on which was sad.

Then she called the police and started talking about an African American man attacking her. Huh? Not only was he not attacking her but filming the whole thing.

Who starts filming someone because they don't comply with a request?

Very strange situation.


I guess you are not a black male? A few words from a white woman can get you killed. Even when you record the interaction there are people like you who thinks she is the victim. Weird.


You are so ridiculous.


Kinda felt like he baited her to me, too.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She is probably having a mental breakdown with fear of the pandemic, hence why she got the dog, probably for protection. I had friends in NYC, PTSD is a thing, nonstop ambuolances, the refrigerated morgues on the street.

I mean, she is vile, don’t get me wrong, the gentleman was so measured, but clearly she was unhinged.


UMM no. Her dog walker confirmed he walked the same dog for her TWO YEARS AGO.

Mental breakdown my butt. She deliberated decided to off-leash her dog in Central Park and when called on it - decided to both harass that person and get the police to do the same.


He was recording her and harassing her.


She is a racist and totally in the wrong. But I also think the man’s comments to her about hurting the dog and his calling her Karen in his post make him look less than perfect. BUT that’s peripheral - The video shows what black people still have to deal with.


Please highlight his comments “about hurting the dog”. And where he called her “Karen”. I’ve read and re-read his comments - as well as his sister’s post and his Facebook post and I see No such comments.


Then he calls the police like a normal adult and not taking the law into his own hands.


You mean a normal "white" adult. The rules aren't the same for black people. When the police are called, they die.


A normal adult calls the police with an issue, ignores it or walks away. He asked, she said no. Dog was not threatening him so he could have walked away. Both were wrong. But, why on earth if this dog was such a threat that he felt he needed to enforce the law that he was calling over the dog and trying to give the dog a treat? Is that normal? What was the purpose of it? Was he trying to take the dog? The entire sequence of events doesn't make sense and we don't have the entire information as he was selective in his recording. Most normal adults ignore except if there is a threat to them or someone else. He is not the police and has no authority so he can ask nicely but if she says no, its a police matter or walk away. He had no need to record an escalate. She was not near anyone.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This lady should have just put a leash on the dog. She had a leash with her, that's what I would have done.

Him filming her and giving her dog treats is so weird. Why the f&ck is he carrying around dog treats if he does not have a dog? He wants to piss some people off?

She starts dragging the dog by the collar as a defiant act not to put the leash on which was sad.

Then she called the police and started talking about an African American man attacking her. Huh? Not only was he not attacking her but filming the whole thing.

Who starts filming someone because they don't comply with a request?

Very strange situation.


I guess you are not a black male? A few words from a white woman can get you killed. Even when you record the interaction there are people like you who thinks she is the victim. Weird.


You are so ridiculous.


NP. Not ridiculous. She attempted to weaponize her privilege by making a false report that a black man was threatening her.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This lady should have just put a leash on the dog. She had a leash with her, that's what I would have done.

Him filming her and giving her dog treats is so weird. Why the f&ck is he carrying around dog treats if he does not have a dog? He wants to piss some people off?

She starts dragging the dog by the collar as a defiant act not to put the leash on which was sad.

Then she called the police and started talking about an African American man attacking her. Huh? Not only was he not attacking her but filming the whole thing.

Who starts filming someone because they don't comply with a request?

Very strange situation.


I guess you are not a black male? A few words from a white woman can get you killed. Even when you record the interaction there are people like you who thinks she is the victim. Weird.


You are so ridiculous.


NP. Not ridiculous. She attempted to weaponize her privilege by making a false report that a black man was threatening her.



She felt threatened.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This lady should have just put a leash on the dog. She had a leash with her, that's what I would have done.

Him filming her and giving her dog treats is so weird. Why the f&ck is he carrying around dog treats if he does not have a dog? He wants to piss some people off?

She starts dragging the dog by the collar as a defiant act not to put the leash on which was sad.

Then she called the police and started talking about an African American man attacking her. Huh? Not only was he not attacking her but filming the whole thing.

Who starts filming someone because they don't comply with a request?

Very strange situation.


I guess you are not a black male? A few words from a white woman can get you killed. Even when you record the interaction there are people like you who thinks she is the victim. Weird.


You are so ridiculous.


NP. Not ridiculous. She attempted to weaponize her privilege by making a false report that a black man was threatening her.



She felt threatened.


Sure. Where was she when the police turned up?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She is probably having a mental breakdown with fear of the pandemic, hence why she got the dog, probably for protection. I had friends in NYC, PTSD is a thing, nonstop ambuolances, the refrigerated morgues on the street.

I mean, she is vile, don’t get me wrong, the gentleman was so measured, but clearly she was unhinged.


He was setting her up for this to happen and wanted his 5 minutes of fame which he got. There was no reason to record her. There was no reason to provoke her. She may have been raped or attacked in the past which caused her to panic. Both were wrong.


Really - that is your takeaway?


She wasn't near anyone in an open area. He pulled out his phone to yell at her and provke a reaction that he could post on social media.


This. And creepy that he had dog treats but no dog.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She is probably having a mental breakdown with fear of the pandemic, hence why she got the dog, probably for protection. I had friends in NYC, PTSD is a thing, nonstop ambuolances, the refrigerated morgues on the street.

I mean, she is vile, don’t get me wrong, the gentleman was so measured, but clearly she was unhinged.


He was setting her up for this to happen and wanted his 5 minutes of fame which he got. There was no reason to record her. There was no reason to provoke her. She may have been raped or attacked in the past which caused her to panic. Both were wrong.


Really - that is your takeaway?


She wasn't near anyone in an open area. He pulled out his phone to yell at her and provke a reaction that he could post on social media.


This. And creepy that he had dog treats but no dog.


Here’s his explanation for why he was carrying dog treats.

“They were in a part of the park called the Ramble, where dogs are supposed to be on a leash, and Cooper said the dog was running loose and tearing through plants.

"I said to the young woman I said, 'Dogs in the ramble have to be on their leash at all times,'" Cooper said.

That's when he said he used treats to try and lure the dog away from some plant beds just before he began recording.

When the woman began to argue with him, Cooper started to record her on his phone, and that's when she called police.

"They don't like it when you feed their dog treats. And she didn't like that at all. And she immediately grabbed the dog as you can see from the video and started hauling it around by its collar," Cooper said.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/6abc.com/amp/central-park-dog-amy-cooper-franklin-templeton-nyc/6212284/

Apparently he’s an avid birdwatcher and goes to that spot often. It seems like he’s encountered off-leash dogs there before and comes prepared with dog treats.



Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She is probably having a mental breakdown with fear of the pandemic, hence why she got the dog, probably for protection. I had friends in NYC, PTSD is a thing, nonstop ambuolances, the refrigerated morgues on the street.

I mean, she is vile, don’t get me wrong, the gentleman was so measured, but clearly she was unhinged.


He was setting her up for this to happen and wanted his 5 minutes of fame which he got. There was no reason to record her. There was no reason to provoke her. She may have been raped or attacked in the past which caused her to panic. Both were wrong.


Really - that is your takeaway?


She wasn't near anyone in an open area. He pulled out his phone to yell at her and provke a reaction that he could post on social media.


This. And creepy that he had dog treats but no dog.


Here’s his explanation for why he was carrying dog treats.

“They were in a part of the park called the Ramble, where dogs are supposed to be on a leash, and Cooper said the dog was running loose and tearing through plants.

"I said to the young woman I said, 'Dogs in the ramble have to be on their leash at all times,'" Cooper said.

That's when he said he used treats to try and lure the dog away from some plant beds just before he began recording.

When the woman began to argue with him, Cooper started to record her on his phone, and that's when she called police.

"They don't like it when you feed their dog treats. And she didn't like that at all. And she immediately grabbed the dog as you can see from the video and started hauling it around by its collar," Cooper said.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/6abc.com/amp/central-park-dog-amy-cooper-franklin-templeton-nyc/6212284/

Apparently he’s an avid birdwatcher and goes to that spot often. It seems like he’s encountered off-leash dogs there before and comes prepared with dog treats.





Again, taking this as fact, which sounds reasonable, its no ok you feed a dog treats without the owners permission. Anyone can misinterpret that but looking at the video he was not close to her or the dog nor was anyone else. At that point, she said no, he should have walked away and reported it to the police non-emergency number instead of playing police. He is not in a position of authority. Maybe the dog is allergic to some treats. That's like someone walking up to your child and saying here's a treat. Neither would be ok. She felt threatened when he approached the dog and more threatened when he started offering treats (assuming this is an accurate account). He simply should have walked away and called the police to ask her to put the dog on a leash.

And, after all that, why send it to his sister who he knew would put it on social media. It sounds like this is something he/they regularly do and they were looking for their fame. They got it. Congrat's to them.

They were both wrong. She should have had the dog on the leash. He should have asked nicely and if she said no, walk away and if it bothered him that much let the police deal with it which is their job, not his.

She was appropriate to grab the dog away from him at any means as she didn't know his intentions including taking the dog from her. She was right if he was coming at them to call the police. She was right to call the police when he was provoking her and recording her. HE should have called the police and never let this escalate.
Anonymous
Whatever. She lost her job. Serves her right.
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