FCV parents - has anyone heard anything?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Have offers gone out to the FCV players for GAL already? Anyone declining for ECNL?

Lol!! No Loudoun Dad, your DD is safe this year. Even though your league is the best you no longer have to fear for your DD losing her spot. But, remember, your league is the best, even though other kids are staying where they are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The best club in the region is in the GA. Nuff said.

Can you define region? Is that northern virginia?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The best club in the region is in the GA. Nuff said.

Can you define region? Is that northern virginia?

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Emotional Club National League

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[Anonymous]

We should all encourage and seek competition, whether within a league, or between leagues. When we don't have competition, then leagues don't have to be accountable or as willing to engage the concerns of their member clubs. USSF didn't feel like it had to worry about ECNL as a competitor and didn't feel it needed to listen to the concerns of member clubs, especially to the ones that left (e.g. high school play and more flexible subbing). GDA is a remnant in soccer history because of it.

However, GA is essentially GDA 2.0, without the USSF patch, but with the engagement of clubs to show GA is adaptable to their concerns. A key difference between ECNL and GA appears to be the management approach. ECNL has been around for awhile, has different boards for boys and girls, and has a lot of internal rules, requirements, and overhead. The GA league structure is new (clubs are well-established), has a singular girls focus, is more club-centric and nimble, with the DOC's being a primary point of communication between clubs.

IMO, no singular league like ECNL could ever collect and then retain all of the best girls clubs in the country, because the broader talent pool has continued to rise very quickly, and the logistics of having so many clubs under one umbrella becomes so unwieldy for tournaments/showcases, that there has to be a natural cutoff. GA has room for growth and I would expect the league to selectively add some high quality clubs in the near future, once the Frontier division announcement is made. And no one should be surprised to see some ECNL clubs making the jump to GA next year for a variety of reasons. This type of competition between leagues is natural and healthy, and will continue to drive the improved development of girl's/women's soccer in our country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We should all encourage and seek competition, whether within a league, or between leagues. When we don't have competition, then leagues don't have to be accountable or as willing to engage the concerns of their member clubs. USSF didn't feel like it had to worry about ECNL as a competitor and didn't feel it needed to listen to the concerns of member clubs, especially to the ones that left (e.g. high school play and more flexible subbing). GDA is a remnant in soccer history because of it.

However, GA is essentially GDA 2.0, without the USSF patch, but with the engagement of clubs to show GA is adaptable to their concerns. A key difference between ECNL and GA appears to be the management approach. ECNL has been around for awhile, has different boards for boys and girls, and has a lot of internal rules, requirements, and overhead. The GA league structure is new (clubs are well-established), has a singular girls focus, is more club-centric and nimble, with the DOC's being a primary point of communication between clubs.

IMO, no singular league like ECNL could ever collect and then retain all of the best girls clubs in the country, because the broader talent pool has continued to rise very quickly, and the logistics of having so many clubs under one umbrella becomes so unwieldy for tournaments/showcases, that there has to be a natural cutoff. GA has room for growth and I would expect the league to selectively add some high quality clubs in the near future, once the Frontier division announcement is made. And no one should be surprised to see some ECNL clubs making the jump to GA next year for a variety of reasons. This type of competition between leagues is natural and healthy, and will continue to drive the improved development of girl's/women's soccer in our country.

This is a realistic post that demonstrates how difficult it is to have one league to rule them all.

Any discussion of ECNL taking their time to add GAL or other clubs in the future is all lost now. I can promise you that 98% of all GDA clubs reached out to ECNL wanting in. They were nervous and desperate. As the new league takes shape and gets through a year or two the lure of ECNL, the protector, fades.

ECNL mismanaged a terrific opportunity and it can’t be spun any other way. They may still end up on top but it will cost more to do so down the road.

So go ahead and cheer for a league, a league that let 40 top clubs, most of these clubs were also previous ECNL clubs by the way, slip through their fingers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We should all encourage and seek competition, whether within a league, or between leagues. When we don't have competition, then leagues don't have to be accountable or as willing to engage the concerns of their member clubs. USSF didn't feel like it had to worry about ECNL as a competitor and didn't feel it needed to listen to the concerns of member clubs, especially to the ones that left (e.g. high school play and more flexible subbing). GDA is a remnant in soccer history because of it.

However, GA is essentially GDA 2.0, without the USSF patch, but with the engagement of clubs to show GA is adaptable to their concerns. A key difference between ECNL and GA appears to be the management approach. ECNL has been around for awhile, has different boards for boys and girls, and has a lot of internal rules, requirements, and overhead. The GA league structure is new (clubs are well-established), has a singular girls focus, is more club-centric and nimble, with the DOC's being a primary point of communication between clubs.

IMO, no singular league like ECNL could ever collect and then retain all of the best girls clubs in the country, because the broader talent pool has continued to rise very quickly, and the logistics of having so many clubs under one umbrella becomes so unwieldy for tournaments/showcases, that there has to be a natural cutoff. GA has room for growth and I would expect the league to selectively add some high quality clubs in the near future, once the Frontier division announcement is made. And no one should be surprised to see some ECNL clubs making the jump to GA next year for a variety of reasons. This type of competition between leagues is natural and healthy, and will continue to drive the improved development of girl's/women's soccer in our country.

This is a realistic post that demonstrates how difficult it is to have one league to rule them all.

Any discussion of ECNL taking their time to add GAL or other clubs in the future is all lost now. I can promise you that 98% of all GDA clubs reached out to ECNL wanting in. They were nervous and desperate. As the new league takes shape and gets through a year or two the lure of ECNL, the protector, fades.

ECNL mismanaged a terrific opportunity and it can’t be spun any other way. They may still end up on top but it will cost more to do so down the road.

So go ahead and cheer for a league, a league that let 40 top clubs, most of these clubs were also previous ECNL clubs by the way, slip through their fingers.

DP. Glad there is still some sanity here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We should all encourage and seek competition, whether within a league, or between leagues. When we don't have competition, then leagues don't have to be accountable or as willing to engage the concerns of their member clubs. USSF didn't feel like it had to worry about ECNL as a competitor and didn't feel it needed to listen to the concerns of member clubs, especially to the ones that left (e.g. high school play and more flexible subbing). GDA is a remnant in soccer history because of it.

However, GA is essentially GDA 2.0, without the USSF patch, but with the engagement of clubs to show GA is adaptable to their concerns. A key difference between ECNL and GA appears to be the management approach. ECNL has been around for awhile, has different boards for boys and girls, and has a lot of internal rules, requirements, and overhead. The GA league structure is new (clubs are well-established), has a singular girls focus, is more club-centric and nimble, with the DOC's being a primary point of communication between clubs.

IMO, no singular league like ECNL could ever collect and then retain all of the best girls clubs in the country, because the broader talent pool has continued to rise very quickly, and the logistics of having so many clubs under one umbrella becomes so unwieldy for tournaments/showcases, that there has to be a natural cutoff. GA has room for growth and I would expect the league to selectively add some high quality clubs in the near future, once the Frontier division announcement is made. And no one should be surprised to see some ECNL clubs making the jump to GA next year for a variety of reasons. This type of competition between leagues is natural and healthy, and will continue to drive the improved development of girl's/women's soccer in our country.

This is a realistic post that demonstrates how difficult it is to have one league to rule them all.

Any discussion of ECNL taking their time to add GAL or other clubs in the future is all lost now. I can promise you that 98% of all GDA clubs reached out to ECNL wanting in. They were nervous and desperate. As the new league takes shape and gets through a year or two the lure of ECNL, the protector, fades.

ECNL mismanaged a terrific opportunity and it can’t be spun any other way. They may still end up on top but it will cost more to do so down the road.

So go ahead and cheer for a league, a league that let 40 top clubs, most of these clubs were also previous ECNL clubs by the way, slip through their fingers.

DP. Glad there is still some sanity here.

You do not understand the politics. You have to punish the former ECNL clubs and clubs like Arlington and FCV must know their place(as a feeder club). Maybe one day the ECNL club will give one of their DOC an offer to coach the u9 second team. It’s not about development or what makes the most sense to the players and family but how to turn the clocks back to the good old days It’s a franchise. They will not add clubs that take market share away from an existing club or threatens a club with competition.

[Anonymous]

So to summarize, the points above, ecnl screwed up by not taking the DA teams. The GAL is a great league. Arlington is pissed they are not in the ECNL. VDA is not sure whether to be upset that they are not getting the FCV players or relieved that they are not coming. Did I miss anything?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We should all encourage and seek competition, whether within a league, or between leagues. When we don't have competition, then leagues don't have to be accountable or as willing to engage the concerns of their member clubs. USSF didn't feel like it had to worry about ECNL as a competitor and didn't feel it needed to listen to the concerns of member clubs, especially to the ones that left (e.g. high school play and more flexible subbing). GDA is a remnant in soccer history because of it.

However, GA is essentially GDA 2.0, without the USSF patch, but with the engagement of clubs to show GA is adaptable to their concerns. A key difference between ECNL and GA appears to be the management approach. ECNL has been around for awhile, has different boards for boys and girls, and has a lot of internal rules, requirements, and overhead. The GA league structure is new (clubs are well-established), has a singular girls focus, is more club-centric and nimble, with the DOC's being a primary point of communication between clubs.

IMO, no singular league like ECNL could ever collect and then retain all of the best girls clubs in the country, because the broader talent pool has continued to rise very quickly, and the logistics of having so many clubs under one umbrella becomes so unwieldy for tournaments/showcases, that there has to be a natural cutoff. GA has room for growth and I would expect the league to selectively add some high quality clubs in the near future, once the Frontier division announcement is made. And no one should be surprised to see some ECNL clubs making the jump to GA next year for a variety of reasons. This type of competition between leagues is natural and healthy, and will continue to drive the improved development of girl's/women's soccer in our country.

This is a realistic post that demonstrates how difficult it is to have one league to rule them all.

Any discussion of ECNL taking their time to add GAL or other clubs in the future is all lost now. I can promise you that 98% of all GDA clubs reached out to ECNL wanting in. They were nervous and desperate. As the new league takes shape and gets through a year or two the lure of ECNL, the protector, fades.

ECNL mismanaged a terrific opportunity and it can’t be spun any other way. They may still end up on top but it will cost more to do so down the road.

So go ahead and cheer for a league, a league that let 40 top clubs, most of these clubs were also previous ECNL clubs by the way, slip through their fingers.

DP. Glad there is still some sanity here.

You do not understand the politics. You have to punish the former ECNL clubs and clubs like Arlington and FCV must know their place(as a feeder club). Maybe one day the ECNL club will give one of their DOC an offer to coach the u9 second team. It’s not about development or what makes the most sense to the players and family but how to turn the clocks back to the good old days It’s a franchise. They will not add clubs that take market share away from an existing club or threatens a club with competition.

Arlington was never in ECNL. Why are they being punished?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So to summarize, the points above, ecnl screwed up by not taking the DA teams. The GAL is a great league. Arlington is pissed they are not in the ECNL. VDA is not sure whether to be upset that they are not getting the FCV players or relieved that they are not coming. Did I miss anything?

No ECNL screwed an opportunity to do now, instantly, what they will end up spending the next two years to do anyways.

They will end up adding most of these clubs eventually but instead of just doing it at once they will have to go club by club.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So to summarize, the points above, ecnl screwed up by not taking the DA teams. The GAL is a great league. Arlington is pissed they are not in the ECNL. VDA is not sure whether to be upset that they are not getting the FCV players or relieved that they are not coming. Did I miss anything?

No ECNL screwed an opportunity to do now, instantly, what they will end up spending the next two years to do anyways.

They will end up adding most of these clubs eventually but instead of just doing it at once they will have to go club by club.

Why are you so sure they will add more of these clubs. Depending on how well the GA does I could see them adding some ECNL teams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So to summarize, the points above, ecnl screwed up by not taking the DA teams. The GAL is a great league. Arlington is pissed they are not in the ECNL. VDA is not sure whether to be upset that they are not getting the FCV players or relieved that they are not coming. Did I miss anything?

No ECNL screwed an opportunity to do now, instantly, what they will end up spending the next two years to do anyways.

They will end up adding most of these clubs eventually but instead of just doing it at once they will have to go club by club.

Why are you so sure they will add more of these clubs. Depending on how well the GA does I could see them adding some ECNL teams.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So to summarize, the points above, ecnl screwed up by not taking the DA teams. The GAL is a great league. Arlington is pissed they are not in the ECNL. VDA is not sure whether to be upset that they are not getting the FCV players or relieved that they are not coming. Did I miss anything?

No ECNL screwed an opportunity to do now, instantly, what they will end up spending the next two years to do anyways.

They will end up adding most of these clubs eventually but instead of just doing it at once they will have to go club by club.

Why are you so sure they will add more of these clubs. Depending on how well the GA does I could see them adding some ECNL teams.

I don’t honestly see ECNL clubs added but I do see quality, underserved clubs being added to GAL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So to summarize, the points above, ecnl screwed up by not taking the DA teams. The GAL is a great league. Arlington is pissed they are not in the ECNL. VDA is not sure whether to be upset that they are not getting the FCV players or relieved that they are not coming. Did I miss anything?

No ECNL screwed an opportunity to do now, instantly, what they will end up spending the next two years to do anyways.

They will end up adding most of these clubs eventually but instead of just doing it at once they will have to go club by club.

Why are you so sure they will add more of these clubs. Depending on how well the GA does I could see them adding some ECNL teams.

I don’t honestly see ECNL clubs added but I do see quality, underserved clubs being added to GAL.

No they won’t... they will just suck up all the talent eventually just like they did years ago from CCL. Arlington and FCV won’t get in period. If your in one of these clubs and want to play top level soccer go ECNL.