Why is Blake Lively so overrated?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m on Blake’s side, but this whole mess confuses me.

Blake and Ryan had a ridiculous amount of power on this film. She was the big star as well as an executive producer. She and Ryan hired the Deadpool editor to do the final cut, which basically means that they have control of the film.

She was responsible for getting the Taylor Swift song in the movie, and she did all the costumes using her own clothes and her best friends clothes.

Ryan even wrote a scene for the film that colleen Hoover didn’t even know about. Sony also had a lot of power here as main financiers and it’s odd that they have stayed out of the fray.

So it is a good reminder that sexism is still strong in Hollywood. And everyone can be subjected to creeps. But it does seem like the public wants a very black or white story. I think there is probably a lot of nuance here. There are missing pieces about how Ryan and Blake were able to get so many of their demands met, yet, weren’t able to get these creepy producers reprimanded or face consequences until now.

It also seems weird that intimacy coordinators were only brought in after problem surfaced. It’s my understanding due to liability like this that intimacy coordinators are now standards on big productions. Jennifer Aniston waived the intimacy coordinator away for The Morning Show because she and John Hamm have a great relationship she’s old school and didn’t want one, but They are there to avoid this kind of liability and it’s confusing to me why on a big production like this, especially dealing with domestic violence, it was an after thought? And if there were problems with the start between Justin and Blake, one was not brought on as soon as they were going to be any intimate scenes. Seems like there’s a missing piece there too.

And why Sony has been completely staying out of this I don’t know, I just feel like there is more to the story, but I definitely feel like blake did not deserve this take down or to be sexually harassed obviously.

Don’t underestimate the degree to which two weirdos at the top can throw things into chaos. But in general the timeline supports your viewpoint - after several repeated incidents Blake flexed her muscles to demand a list of accomodations to restart filming after the production halted for the writers strike.

What I am confused about is why, after she got what she wanted, Blake coordinated the public freeze-out of Justin?

Do you embrace people who sexually harassed you and stay besties?

if you resolved your complaint and decided to remain on the job, then I think you also behave professionally to finish the job.

Blake wanted to proactively smear Baldoni right when the movie was being released and the question is - why?

Justin still probably retailed inappropriately but Blake started that round, IMO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else believe her and also dislike her? That’s where I am.

She just seems so snotty and smug.

Yep! The believing her is the important part.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He seems like such a douche. And an insane one now.

If his lawyers did not urge him to settle that was malpractice.

What does settle mean? Blake just wanted a fatter pay day?

It’s not clear. It could be, but she doesn’t need the money that badly. Based on the nature of the allegations in the complaint, my completely speculative opinion is that she asked for an apology/admission or something like that in addition to the $ damages she’s seeking, and that was a sticking point. Or that she’s doing it to make a point because she has the resources to (the way Taylor Swift sued the radio DJ who grabbed her butt for $1). The language used in the complaint hints at this. And Baldoni’s statement about the lawsuit makes it pretty clear he denies the smear campaign happened at all.

Of course, it’s possible that it’s at least somewhat about the money. She’s asking for damages related to her other businesses doing poorly because she hasn’t been able promote them. Maybe they couldn't settle on a number.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m on Blake’s side, but this whole mess confuses me.

Blake and Ryan had a ridiculous amount of power on this film. She was the big star as well as an executive producer. She and Ryan hired the Deadpool editor to do the final cut, which basically means that they have control of the film.

She was responsible for getting the Taylor Swift song in the movie, and she did all the costumes using her own clothes and her best friends clothes.

Ryan even wrote a scene for the film that colleen Hoover didn’t even know about. Sony also had a lot of power here as main financiers and it’s odd that they have stayed out of the fray.

So it is a good reminder that sexism is still strong in Hollywood. And everyone can be subjected to creeps. But it does seem like the public wants a very black or white story. I think there is probably a lot of nuance here. There are missing pieces about how Ryan and Blake were able to get so many of their demands met, yet, weren’t able to get these creepy producers reprimanded or face consequences until now.

It also seems weird that intimacy coordinators were only brought in after problem surfaced. It’s my understanding due to liability like this that intimacy coordinators are now standards on big productions. Jennifer Aniston waived the intimacy coordinator away for The Morning Show because she and John Hamm have a great relationship she’s old school and didn’t want one, but They are there to avoid this kind of liability and it’s confusing to me why on a big production like this, especially dealing with domestic violence, it was an after thought? And if there were problems with the start between Justin and Blake, one was not brought on as soon as they were going to be any intimate scenes. Seems like there’s a missing piece there too.

And why Sony has been completely staying out of this I don’t know, I just feel like there is more to the story, but I definitely feel like blake did not deserve this take down or to be sexually harassed obviously.

Don’t underestimate the degree to which two weirdos at the top can throw things into chaos. But in general the timeline supports your viewpoint - after several repeated incidents Blake flexed her muscles to demand a list of accomodations to restart filming after the production halted for the writers strike.

What I am confused about is why, after she got what she wanted, Blake coordinated the public freeze-out of Justin?

Do you embrace people who sexually harassed you and stay besties?

if you resolved your complaint and decided to remain on the job, then I think you also behave professionally to finish the job.

Blake wanted to proactively smear Baldoni right when the movie was being released and the question is - why?

Justin still probably retailed inappropriately but Blake started that round, IMO.

He retaliated illegally. Get real.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else believe her and also dislike her? That’s where I am.

She just seems so snotty and smug.

Both. I think she overreacted/distorted the original complaints. I also think that Baldoni and the other guy could have been gross (but not sexually harassing) in doing things like wanting to add additional sex scenes that were not necessary. I think she never wanted Baldoni to be on the film and took advantage of an opening to sideline him. and I think even after being successful in that, she set out to publicly humiliate him right as the film was being marketed. Then I think he went too far in retaliating against all of that, and is likely liable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m on Blake’s side, but this whole mess confuses me.

Blake and Ryan had a ridiculous amount of power on this film. She was the big star as well as an executive producer. She and Ryan hired the Deadpool editor to do the final cut, which basically means that they have control of the film.

She was responsible for getting the Taylor Swift song in the movie, and she did all the costumes using her own clothes and her best friends clothes.

Ryan even wrote a scene for the film that colleen Hoover didn’t even know about. Sony also had a lot of power here as main financiers and it’s odd that they have stayed out of the fray.

So it is a good reminder that sexism is still strong in Hollywood. And everyone can be subjected to creeps. But it does seem like the public wants a very black or white story. I think there is probably a lot of nuance here. There are missing pieces about how Ryan and Blake were able to get so many of their demands met, yet, weren’t able to get these creepy producers reprimanded or face consequences until now.

It also seems weird that intimacy coordinators were only brought in after problem surfaced. It’s my understanding due to liability like this that intimacy coordinators are now standards on big productions. Jennifer Aniston waived the intimacy coordinator away for The Morning Show because she and John Hamm have a great relationship she’s old school and didn’t want one, but They are there to avoid this kind of liability and it’s confusing to me why on a big production like this, especially dealing with domestic violence, it was an after thought? And if there were problems with the start between Justin and Blake, one was not brought on as soon as they were going to be any intimate scenes. Seems like there’s a missing piece there too.

And why Sony has been completely staying out of this I don’t know, I just feel like there is more to the story, but I definitely feel like blake did not deserve this take down or to be sexually harassed obviously.

Don’t underestimate the degree to which two weirdos at the top can throw things into chaos. But in general the timeline supports your viewpoint - after several repeated incidents Blake flexed her muscles to demand a list of accomodations to restart filming after the production halted for the writers strike.

What I am confused about is why, after she got what she wanted, Blake coordinated the public freeze-out of Justin?

Do you embrace people who sexually harassed you and stay besties?

if you resolved your complaint and decided to remain on the job, then I think you also behave professionally to finish the job.

Blake wanted to proactively smear Baldoni right when the movie was being released and the question is - why?

Justin still probably retailed inappropriately but Blake started that round, IMO.

He retaliated illegally. Get real.

Retaliated against what though?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m on Blake’s side, but this whole mess confuses me.

Blake and Ryan had a ridiculous amount of power on this film. She was the big star as well as an executive producer. She and Ryan hired the Deadpool editor to do the final cut, which basically means that they have control of the film.

She was responsible for getting the Taylor Swift song in the movie, and she did all the costumes using her own clothes and her best friends clothes.

Ryan even wrote a scene for the film that colleen Hoover didn’t even know about. Sony also had a lot of power here as main financiers and it’s odd that they have stayed out of the fray.

So it is a good reminder that sexism is still strong in Hollywood. And everyone can be subjected to creeps. But it does seem like the public wants a very black or white story. I think there is probably a lot of nuance here. There are missing pieces about how Ryan and Blake were able to get so many of their demands met, yet, weren’t able to get these creepy producers reprimanded or face consequences until now.

It also seems weird that intimacy coordinators were only brought in after problem surfaced. It’s my understanding due to liability like this that intimacy coordinators are now standards on big productions. Jennifer Aniston waived the intimacy coordinator away for The Morning Show because she and John Hamm have a great relationship she’s old school and didn’t want one, but They are there to avoid this kind of liability and it’s confusing to me why on a big production like this, especially dealing with domestic violence, it was an after thought? And if there were problems with the start between Justin and Blake, one was not brought on as soon as they were going to be any intimate scenes. Seems like there’s a missing piece there too.

And why Sony has been completely staying out of this I don’t know, I just feel like there is more to the story, but I definitely feel like blake did not deserve this take down or to be sexually harassed obviously.

Don’t underestimate the degree to which two weirdos at the top can throw things into chaos. But in general the timeline supports your viewpoint - after several repeated incidents Blake flexed her muscles to demand a list of accomodations to restart filming after the production halted for the writers strike.

What I am confused about is why, after she got what she wanted, Blake coordinated the public freeze-out of Justin?

Do you embrace people who sexually harassed you and stay besties?

if you resolved your complaint and decided to remain on the job, then I think you also behave professionally to finish the job.

Blake wanted to proactively smear Baldoni right when the movie was being released and the question is - why?

Justin still probably retailed inappropriately but Blake started that round, IMO.

He retaliated illegally. Get real.

Retaliated against what though?

Read the complaint.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m on Blake’s side, but this whole mess confuses me.

Blake and Ryan had a ridiculous amount of power on this film. She was the big star as well as an executive producer. She and Ryan hired the Deadpool editor to do the final cut, which basically means that they have control of the film.

She was responsible for getting the Taylor Swift song in the movie, and she did all the costumes using her own clothes and her best friends clothes.

Ryan even wrote a scene for the film that colleen Hoover didn’t even know about. Sony also had a lot of power here as main financiers and it’s odd that they have stayed out of the fray.

So it is a good reminder that sexism is still strong in Hollywood. And everyone can be subjected to creeps. But it does seem like the public wants a very black or white story. I think there is probably a lot of nuance here. There are missing pieces about how Ryan and Blake were able to get so many of their demands met, yet, weren’t able to get these creepy producers reprimanded or face consequences until now.

It also seems weird that intimacy coordinators were only brought in after problem surfaced. It’s my understanding due to liability like this that intimacy coordinators are now standards on big productions. Jennifer Aniston waived the intimacy coordinator away for The Morning Show because she and John Hamm have a great relationship she’s old school and didn’t want one, but They are there to avoid this kind of liability and it’s confusing to me why on a big production like this, especially dealing with domestic violence, it was an after thought? And if there were problems with the start between Justin and Blake, one was not brought on as soon as they were going to be any intimate scenes. Seems like there’s a missing piece there too.

And why Sony has been completely staying out of this I don’t know, I just feel like there is more to the story, but I definitely feel like blake did not deserve this take down or to be sexually harassed obviously.

Don’t underestimate the degree to which two weirdos at the top can throw things into chaos. But in general the timeline supports your viewpoint - after several repeated incidents Blake flexed her muscles to demand a list of accomodations to restart filming after the production halted for the writers strike.

What I am confused about is why, after she got what she wanted, Blake coordinated the public freeze-out of Justin?

Do you embrace people who sexually harassed you and stay besties?

if you resolved your complaint and decided to remain on the job, then I think you also behave professionally to finish the job.

Blake wanted to proactively smear Baldoni right when the movie was being released and the question is - why?

Justin still probably retailed inappropriately but Blake started that round, IMO.

Agree and now the bullying against him happening. Everyone is afraid of her because she is right with Taylor Seift and also her husband and their billion dollars.

[Anonymous]

Baldoni’s Wayfarer studios own the rights to It Ends with Us and its sequel It starts with us. Blake and and Ryan had outsized influence on the film. She is no victim. They rewrote scenes, added scenes, styled characters. As a result, there was a power struggle between her and Baldoni. They hate each other.

Blake thought this movie would elevate her acting career as Barbie did for Margot Robbie. “Bring your friends, wear your florals!” She so stupid and vapid it went over her head this isn’t the way to promote a movie about DV. Her inner mean girl showed and America hated her. She couldn’t take it. She wants to cast herself as a helpless victim to get America’s sympathy and whitewash her own actions.

Plus Blake wants the rights to It Starts with us from Baldoni. She is ruining him and sueing him to get them. She’s so powerful, she doesn't have to do much to ruin him but he won’t give up those rights and she wants them. He isn’t a Saint but she is straight up evil despicably and horrible. I hope he countersues for defamation and destruction of his career.

[Anonymous]

Why are comments being removed from this thread?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else believe her and also dislike her? That’s where I am.

She just seems so snotty and smug.

Yep! The believing her is the important part.

+1000 the misogyny on this thread is disgusting.

[Anonymous]

How does the NYT have access to the internal texts between Baldoni’s PR team? He looks guilty as hell. I’m just wondering how we are seeing what we are seeing. Were they required to hand over these communications because of the legal proceedings?

[Anonymous]

Everyone in Hollywood is gross. This guy is at least hot. Look at Harvey Weinstein and his peers these women eagerly doing unspeakable things to get fame and fortune.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How does the NYT have access to the internal texts between Baldoni’s PR team? He looks guilty as hell. I’m just wondering how we are seeing what we are seeing. Were they required to hand over these communications because of the legal proceedings?

High dollar PR. NY Times is a rag.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else believe her and also dislike her? That’s where I am.

She just seems so snotty and smug.

Both. I think she overreacted/distorted the original complaints. I also think that Baldoni and the other guy could have been gross (but not sexually harassing) in doing things like wanting to add additional sex scenes that were not necessary. I think she never wanted Baldoni to be on the film and took advantage of an opening to sideline him. and I think even after being successful in that, she set out to publicly humiliate him right as the film was being marketed. Then I think he went too far in retaliating against all of that, and is likely liable.

I agree that some of the issues in the legal complaint could be overstated - it was written by her lawyers in the service of advocating for their client - but I disagree that stuff like improvising extra physical contact in an intimate scene that she wasn’t expecting, hiring Baldoni’s friend (rather than a real actor) to play her OB and stick his head between her legs during a birth scene, and entering her trailer uninvited when she was undressed is “gross behavior.” It’s sexual harassment and it shouldn’t be tolerated in any workplace.

This stuff is pretty easily verifiable (allegedly multiple witnesses) so if it’s true, I don’t care if her lawyers engaged in a little puffery to describe how egregious it was. It’s bad.