Why is Blake Lively so overrated?

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Anonymous wrote:People who don't understand the Blake dislike crack me up. This is a woman who got married on a plantation. That's like getting married at Auschwitz. Maybe she was sexually harassed, if it happened I hope it comes out in court and the guy faces consequences. But to me this is a woman who has shown time and again that she's a self involved ahole who is incapable of accountability.

This is incredibly offensive, PP.

People on the West Coast don’t get Civil War/Southern Culture. I grew up out West and none of this history was part of my world until I moved to the East Coast.

It’s not culture. It’s history. She chose to marry on a plantation that beat people and kept people enslaved against their will.

Ignorance is not an excuse.

Obviously controversial to say now but this was a semi normal thing to do 12 years ago. Not excusing it, but as a regular Joe Schmo, I went to weddings at the same location around the same time period and earlier. I don’t think you understand how much online communications have normalized thoughts and perceptions - and to a GOOD degree. Because I agree, getting married at a plantation is not ok. Back in 2010/2012, there was really only Facebook and Twitter and widespread acceptance of that idea hadn’t really materialized. Cultural mores change over time.

No, this only applies if you are willfully blind. Even the good old days of 2010, plenty of people knew you shouldn’t glorify getting married on a plantation.

I do think times were different in the late 90s and early 2000s. information wasn’t as widespread and things that we do not accept today were more normalized.

I’m black and in the south a lot of properties were named Plantation, whether it was historically a former plantation or whether the name just represented grandeur. The wedding venues that were the most coveted were large estates named Plantations. I am black and was married in a church but had my reception 20 min away at a country club that had plantation in the name.

lol. Thanks for chiming in PR flack.

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The PR people knew what they were doing was wrong they even said "can you imagine if this got into the wrong hands?" meaning their discussions about what they were actually doing They are cooked.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m on Blake’s side, but this whole mess confuses me.

Blake and Ryan had a ridiculous amount of power on this film. She was the big star as well as an executive producer. She and Ryan hired the Deadpool editor to do the final cut, which basically means that they have control of the film.

She was responsible for getting the Taylor Swift song in the movie, and she did all the costumes using her own clothes and her best friends clothes.

Ryan even wrote a scene for the film that colleen Hoover didn’t even know about. Sony also had a lot of power here as main financiers and it’s odd that they have stayed out of the fray.

So it is a good reminder that sexism is still strong in Hollywood. And everyone can be subjected to creeps. But it does seem like the public wants a very black or white story. I think there is probably a lot of nuance here. There are missing pieces about how Ryan and Blake were able to get so many of their demands met, yet, weren’t able to get these creepy producers reprimanded or face consequences until now.

It also seems weird that intimacy coordinators were only brought in after problem surfaced. It’s my understanding due to liability like this that intimacy coordinators are now standards on big productions. Jennifer Aniston waived the intimacy coordinator away for The Morning Show because she and John Hamm have a great relationship she’s old school and didn’t want one, but They are there to avoid this kind of liability and it’s confusing to me why on a big production like this, especially dealing with domestic violence, it was an after thought? And if there were problems with the start between Justin and Blake, one was not brought on as soon as they were going to be any intimate scenes. Seems like there’s a missing piece there too.

And why Sony has been completely staying out of this I don’t know, I just feel like there is more to the story, but I definitely feel like blake did not deserve this take down or to be sexually harassed obviously.

I feel similarly conflicted and confused.

What she's alleging seems unquestionably wrong on Baldoni's part. That's harassment and hostile workplace, especially when all taken together.

The PR stuff is different. If he did it to smear her because he knew he'd done this stuff on set and wanted to discredit her in advance, gross. If the situation was more nuanced, I think it's fair game.

Because it doesn't sound like his team made anything up. They used old clips and accurate details about Blake. She... did those things. It's crazy that someone from her own film was using them to get her bad press as the movie was released, but it's not like they lied.

And yes, that brings me to her allegations-- I am confused about the details because she was in a more powerful position than Baldoni on the set, so I don't get how it was handled. I agree we must be missing some facts and context. And I think it's likely that context will make Blake look less innocent, because if it was bad for Baldoni, they would have included it in their complaint.

If it were more nuanced, it wouldn't be the entire cast and book author also shunning him. He clearly p*ssed a lot of people off.

Have they spoken out? Or just stayed quiet/not come to his defense? Blake and especially Ryan are very powerful and if I were Jenny Slate or Colleen Hoover, I wouldn't want to say anything that could be construed as not backing Blake even if the situation is very complex. Baldoni can't protect them.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m on Blake’s side, but this whole mess confuses me.

Blake and Ryan had a ridiculous amount of power on this film. She was the big star as well as an executive producer. She and Ryan hired the Deadpool editor to do the final cut, which basically means that they have control of the film.

She was responsible for getting the Taylor Swift song in the movie, and she did all the costumes using her own clothes and her best friends clothes.

Ryan even wrote a scene for the film that colleen Hoover didn’t even know about. Sony also had a lot of power here as main financiers and it’s odd that they have stayed out of the fray.

So it is a good reminder that sexism is still strong in Hollywood. And everyone can be subjected to creeps. But it does seem like the public wants a very black or white story. I think there is probably a lot of nuance here. There are missing pieces about how Ryan and Blake were able to get so many of their demands met, yet, weren’t able to get these creepy producers reprimanded or face consequences until now.

It also seems weird that intimacy coordinators were only brought in after problem surfaced. It’s my understanding due to liability like this that intimacy coordinators are now standards on big productions. Jennifer Aniston waived the intimacy coordinator away for The Morning Show because she and John Hamm have a great relationship she’s old school and didn’t want one, but They are there to avoid this kind of liability and it’s confusing to me why on a big production like this, especially dealing with domestic violence, it was an after thought? And if there were problems with the start between Justin and Blake, one was not brought on as soon as they were going to be any intimate scenes. Seems like there’s a missing piece there too.

And why Sony has been completely staying out of this I don’t know, I just feel like there is more to the story, but I definitely feel like blake did not deserve this take down or to be sexually harassed obviously.

I feel similarly conflicted and confused.

What she's alleging seems unquestionably wrong on Baldoni's part. That's harassment and hostile workplace, especially when all taken together.

The PR stuff is different. If he did it to smear her because he knew he'd done this stuff on set and wanted to discredit her in advance, gross. If the situation was more nuanced, I think it's fair game.

Because it doesn't sound like his team made anything up. They used old clips and accurate details about Blake. She... did those things. It's crazy that someone from her own film was using them to get her bad press as the movie was released, but it's not like they lied.

And yes, that brings me to her allegations-- I am confused about the details because she was in a more powerful position than Baldoni on the set, so I don't get how it was handled. I agree we must be missing some facts and context. And I think it's likely that context will make Blake look less innocent, because if it was bad for Baldoni, they would have included it in their complaint.

If it were more nuanced, it wouldn't be the entire cast and book author also shunning him. He clearly p*ssed a lot of people off.

Have they spoken out? Or just stayed quiet/not come to his defense? Blake and especially Ryan are very powerful and if I were Jenny Slate or Colleen Hoover, I wouldn't want to say anything that could be construed as not backing Blake even if the situation is very complex. Baldoni can't protect them.

If all this is true, and he broke the law retaliating against her sexual harassment claims, who would come to his defense? He's a nobody with a name hardly anyone recognizes and WME dumped him in a hot second he's so invaluable. It's very odd that he would go after Blake at all. He must be incredibly stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m on Blake’s side, but this whole mess confuses me.

Blake and Ryan had a ridiculous amount of power on this film. She was the big star as well as an executive producer. She and Ryan hired the Deadpool editor to do the final cut, which basically means that they have control of the film.

She was responsible for getting the Taylor Swift song in the movie, and she did all the costumes using her own clothes and her best friends clothes.

Ryan even wrote a scene for the film that colleen Hoover didn’t even know about. Sony also had a lot of power here as main financiers and it’s odd that they have stayed out of the fray.

So it is a good reminder that sexism is still strong in Hollywood. And everyone can be subjected to creeps. But it does seem like the public wants a very black or white story. I think there is probably a lot of nuance here. There are missing pieces about how Ryan and Blake were able to get so many of their demands met, yet, weren’t able to get these creepy producers reprimanded or face consequences until now.

It also seems weird that intimacy coordinators were only brought in after problem surfaced. It’s my understanding due to liability like this that intimacy coordinators are now standards on big productions. Jennifer Aniston waived the intimacy coordinator away for The Morning Show because she and John Hamm have a great relationship she’s old school and didn’t want one, but They are there to avoid this kind of liability and it’s confusing to me why on a big production like this, especially dealing with domestic violence, it was an after thought? And if there were problems with the start between Justin and Blake, one was not brought on as soon as they were going to be any intimate scenes. Seems like there’s a missing piece there too.

And why Sony has been completely staying out of this I don’t know, I just feel like there is more to the story, but I definitely feel like blake did not deserve this take down or to be sexually harassed obviously.

I feel similarly conflicted and confused.

What she's alleging seems unquestionably wrong on Baldoni's part. That's harassment and hostile workplace, especially when all taken together.

The PR stuff is different. If he did it to smear her because he knew he'd done this stuff on set and wanted to discredit her in advance, gross. If the situation was more nuanced, I think it's fair game.

Because it doesn't sound like his team made anything up. They used old clips and accurate details about Blake. She... did those things. It's crazy that someone from her own film was using them to get her bad press as the movie was released, but it's not like they lied.

And yes, that brings me to her allegations-- I am confused about the details because she was in a more powerful position than Baldoni on the set, so I don't get how it was handled. I agree we must be missing some facts and context. And I think it's likely that context will make Blake look less innocent, because if it was bad for Baldoni, they would have included it in their complaint.

If it were more nuanced, it wouldn't be the entire cast and book author also shunning him. He clearly p*ssed a lot of people off.

Have they spoken out? Or just stayed quiet/not come to his defense? Blake and especially Ryan are very powerful and if I were Jenny Slate or Colleen Hoover, I wouldn't want to say anything that could be construed as not backing Blake even if the situation is very complex. Baldoni can't protect them.

If all this is true, and he broke the law retaliating against her sexual harassment claims, who would come to his defense? He's a nobody with a name hardly anyone recognizes and WME dumped him in a hot second he's so invaluable. It's very odd that he would go after Blake at all. He must be incredibly stupid.

* not valuable.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m on Blake’s side, but this whole mess confuses me.

Blake and Ryan had a ridiculous amount of power on this film. She was the big star as well as an executive producer. She and Ryan hired the Deadpool editor to do the final cut, which basically means that they have control of the film.

She was responsible for getting the Taylor Swift song in the movie, and she did all the costumes using her own clothes and her best friends clothes.

Ryan even wrote a scene for the film that colleen Hoover didn’t even know about. Sony also had a lot of power here as main financiers and it’s odd that they have stayed out of the fray.

So it is a good reminder that sexism is still strong in Hollywood. And everyone can be subjected to creeps. But it does seem like the public wants a very black or white story. I think there is probably a lot of nuance here. There are missing pieces about how Ryan and Blake were able to get so many of their demands met, yet, weren’t able to get these creepy producers reprimanded or face consequences until now.

It also seems weird that intimacy coordinators were only brought in after problem surfaced. It’s my understanding due to liability like this that intimacy coordinators are now standards on big productions. Jennifer Aniston waived the intimacy coordinator away for The Morning Show because she and John Hamm have a great relationship she’s old school and didn’t want one, but They are there to avoid this kind of liability and it’s confusing to me why on a big production like this, especially dealing with domestic violence, it was an after thought? And if there were problems with the start between Justin and Blake, one was not brought on as soon as they were going to be any intimate scenes. Seems like there’s a missing piece there too.

And why Sony has been completely staying out of this I don’t know, I just feel like there is more to the story, but I definitely feel like blake did not deserve this take down or to be sexually harassed obviously.

I feel similarly conflicted and confused.

What she's alleging seems unquestionably wrong on Baldoni's part. That's harassment and hostile workplace, especially when all taken together.

The PR stuff is different. If he did it to smear her because he knew he'd done this stuff on set and wanted to discredit her in advance, gross. If the situation was more nuanced, I think it's fair game.

Because it doesn't sound like his team made anything up. They used old clips and accurate details about Blake. She... did those things. It's crazy that someone from her own film was using them to get her bad press as the movie was released, but it's not like they lied.

And yes, that brings me to her allegations-- I am confused about the details because she was in a more powerful position than Baldoni on the set, so I don't get how it was handled. I agree we must be missing some facts and context. And I think it's likely that context will make Blake look less innocent, because if it was bad for Baldoni, they would have included it in their complaint.

If it were more nuanced, it wouldn't be the entire cast and book author also shunning him. He clearly p*ssed a lot of people off.

Have they spoken out? Or just stayed quiet/not come to his defense? Blake and especially Ryan are very powerful and if I were Jenny Slate or Colleen Hoover, I wouldn't want to say anything that could be construed as not backing Blake even if the situation is very complex. Baldoni can't protect them.

If all this is true, and he broke the law retaliating against her sexual harassment claims, who would come to his defense? He's a nobody with a name hardly anyone recognizes and WME dumped him in a hot second he's so invaluable. It's very odd that he would go after Blake at all. He must be incredibly stupid.

Or this is all exaggerated and cooked up to try to victimize Blake, who can't cope with the public *grasp* simply not liking her.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m on Blake’s side, but this whole mess confuses me.

Blake and Ryan had a ridiculous amount of power on this film. She was the big star as well as an executive producer. She and Ryan hired the Deadpool editor to do the final cut, which basically means that they have control of the film.

She was responsible for getting the Taylor Swift song in the movie, and she did all the costumes using her own clothes and her best friends clothes.

Ryan even wrote a scene for the film that colleen Hoover didn’t even know about. Sony also had a lot of power here as main financiers and it’s odd that they have stayed out of the fray.

So it is a good reminder that sexism is still strong in Hollywood. And everyone can be subjected to creeps. But it does seem like the public wants a very black or white story. I think there is probably a lot of nuance here. There are missing pieces about how Ryan and Blake were able to get so many of their demands met, yet, weren’t able to get these creepy producers reprimanded or face consequences until now.

It also seems weird that intimacy coordinators were only brought in after problem surfaced. It’s my understanding due to liability like this that intimacy coordinators are now standards on big productions. Jennifer Aniston waived the intimacy coordinator away for The Morning Show because she and John Hamm have a great relationship she’s old school and didn’t want one, but They are there to avoid this kind of liability and it’s confusing to me why on a big production like this, especially dealing with domestic violence, it was an after thought? And if there were problems with the start between Justin and Blake, one was not brought on as soon as they were going to be any intimate scenes. Seems like there’s a missing piece there too.

And why Sony has been completely staying out of this I don’t know, I just feel like there is more to the story, but I definitely feel like blake did not deserve this take down or to be sexually harassed obviously.

I feel similarly conflicted and confused.

What she's alleging seems unquestionably wrong on Baldoni's part. That's harassment and hostile workplace, especially when all taken together.

The PR stuff is different. If he did it to smear her because he knew he'd done this stuff on set and wanted to discredit her in advance, gross. If the situation was more nuanced, I think it's fair game.

Because it doesn't sound like his team made anything up. They used old clips and accurate details about Blake. She... did those things. It's crazy that someone from her own film was using them to get her bad press as the movie was released, but it's not like they lied.

And yes, that brings me to her allegations-- I am confused about the details because she was in a more powerful position than Baldoni on the set, so I don't get how it was handled. I agree we must be missing some facts and context. And I think it's likely that context will make Blake look less innocent, because if it was bad for Baldoni, they would have included it in their complaint.

If it were more nuanced, it wouldn't be the entire cast and book author also shunning him. He clearly p*ssed a lot of people off.

Have they spoken out? Or just stayed quiet/not come to his defense? Blake and especially Ryan are very powerful and if I were Jenny Slate or Colleen Hoover, I wouldn't want to say anything that could be construed as not backing Blake even if the situation is very complex. Baldoni can't protect them.

If all this is true, and he broke the law retaliating against her sexual harassment claims, who would come to his defense? He's a nobody with a name hardly anyone recognizes and WME dumped him in a hot second he's so invaluable. It's very odd that he would go after Blake at all. He must be incredibly stupid.

Or this is all exaggerated and cooked up to try to victimize Blake, who can't cope with the public *grasp* simply not liking her.

You're really dense if you think this wasn't a coordinated effort to get you to think a certain way to deflect from Baldoni's problems. You are a useful idiot. And it looks like they have plenty of receipts that this was a coordinated attack, as retaliation. He's effed.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I’m on Blake’s side, but this whole mess confuses me.

Blake and Ryan had a ridiculous amount of power on this film. She was the big star as well as an executive producer. She and Ryan hired the Deadpool editor to do the final cut, which basically means that they have control of the film.

She was responsible for getting the Taylor Swift song in the movie, and she did all the costumes using her own clothes and her best friends clothes.

Ryan even wrote a scene for the film that colleen Hoover didn’t even know about. Sony also had a lot of power here as main financiers and it’s odd that they have stayed out of the fray.

So it is a good reminder that sexism is still strong in Hollywood. And everyone can be subjected to creeps. But it does seem like the public wants a very black or white story. I think there is probably a lot of nuance here. There are missing pieces about how Ryan and Blake were able to get so many of their demands met, yet, weren’t able to get these creepy producers reprimanded or face consequences until now.

It also seems weird that intimacy coordinators were only brought in after problem surfaced. It’s my understanding due to liability like this that intimacy coordinators are now standards on big productions. Jennifer Aniston waived the intimacy coordinator away for The Morning Show because she and John Hamm have a great relationship she’s old school and didn’t want one, but They are there to avoid this kind of liability and it’s confusing to me why on a big production like this, especially dealing with domestic violence, it was an after thought? And if there were problems with the start between Justin and Blake, one was not brought on as soon as they were going to be any intimate scenes. Seems like there’s a missing piece there too.

And why Sony has been completely staying out of this I don’t know, I just feel like there is more to the story, but I definitely feel like blake did not deserve this take down or to be sexually harassed obviously.

I feel similarly conflicted and confused.

What she's alleging seems unquestionably wrong on Baldoni's part. That's harassment and hostile workplace, especially when all taken together.

The PR stuff is different. If he did it to smear her because he knew he'd done this stuff on set and wanted to discredit her in advance, gross. If the situation was more nuanced, I think it's fair game.

Because it doesn't sound like his team made anything up. They used old clips and accurate details about Blake. She... did those things. It's crazy that someone from her own film was using them to get her bad press as the movie was released, but it's not like they lied.

And yes, that brings me to her allegations-- I am confused about the details because she was in a more powerful position than Baldoni on the set, so I don't get how it was handled. I agree we must be missing some facts and context. And I think it's likely that context will make Blake look less innocent, because if it was bad for Baldoni, they would have included it in their complaint.

If it were more nuanced, it wouldn't be the entire cast and book author also shunning him. He clearly p*ssed a lot of people off.

Have they spoken out? Or just stayed quiet/not come to his defense? Blake and especially Ryan are very powerful and if I were Jenny Slate or Colleen Hoover, I wouldn't want to say anything that could be construed as not backing Blake even if the situation is very complex. Baldoni can't protect them.

If all this is true, and he broke the law retaliating against her sexual harassment claims, who would come to his defense? He's a nobody with a name hardly anyone recognizes and WME dumped him in a hot second he's so invaluable. It's very odd that he would go after Blake at all. He must be incredibly stupid.

Or this is all exaggerated and cooked up to try to victimize Blake, who can't cope with the public *gasp* simply not liking her.

You're really dense if you think this wasn't a coordinated effort to get you to think a certain way to deflect from Baldoni's problems. You are a useful idiot. And it looks like they have plenty of receipts that this was a coordinated attack, as retaliation. He's effed.

Blah blah blah. Receipts receipts receipts. Harvey’s girl is so puritan now. Nobody cares, PR bot.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m on Blake’s side, but this whole mess confuses me.

Blake and Ryan had a ridiculous amount of power on this film. She was the big star as well as an executive producer. She and Ryan hired the Deadpool editor to do the final cut, which basically means that they have control of the film.

She was responsible for getting the Taylor Swift song in the movie, and she did all the costumes using her own clothes and her best friends clothes.

Ryan even wrote a scene for the film that colleen Hoover didn’t even know about. Sony also had a lot of power here as main financiers and it’s odd that they have stayed out of the fray.

So it is a good reminder that sexism is still strong in Hollywood. And everyone can be subjected to creeps. But it does seem like the public wants a very black or white story. I think there is probably a lot of nuance here. There are missing pieces about how Ryan and Blake were able to get so many of their demands met, yet, weren’t able to get these creepy producers reprimanded or face consequences until now.

It also seems weird that intimacy coordinators were only brought in after problem surfaced. It’s my understanding due to liability like this that intimacy coordinators are now standards on big productions. Jennifer Aniston waived the intimacy coordinator away for The Morning Show because she and John Hamm have a great relationship she’s old school and didn’t want one, but They are there to avoid this kind of liability and it’s confusing to me why on a big production like this, especially dealing with domestic violence, it was an after thought? And if there were problems with the start between Justin and Blake, one was not brought on as soon as they were going to be any intimate scenes. Seems like there’s a missing piece there too.

And why Sony has been completely staying out of this I don’t know, I just feel like there is more to the story, but I definitely feel like blake did not deserve this take down or to be sexually harassed obviously.

I feel similarly conflicted and confused.

What she's alleging seems unquestionably wrong on Baldoni's part. That's harassment and hostile workplace, especially when all taken together.

The PR stuff is different. If he did it to smear her because he knew he'd done this stuff on set and wanted to discredit her in advance, gross. If the situation was more nuanced, I think it's fair game.

Because it doesn't sound like his team made anything up. They used old clips and accurate details about Blake. She... did those things. It's crazy that someone from her own film was using them to get her bad press as the movie was released, but it's not like they lied.

And yes, that brings me to her allegations-- I am confused about the details because she was in a more powerful position than Baldoni on the set, so I don't get how it was handled. I agree we must be missing some facts and context. And I think it's likely that context will make Blake look less innocent, because if it was bad for Baldoni, they would have included it in their complaint.

If it were more nuanced, it wouldn't be the entire cast and book author also shunning him. He clearly p*ssed a lot of people off.

Have they spoken out? Or just stayed quiet/not come to his defense? Blake and especially Ryan are very powerful and if I were Jenny Slate or Colleen Hoover, I wouldn't want to say anything that could be construed as not backing Blake even if the situation is very complex. Baldoni can't protect them.

If all this is true, and he broke the law retaliating against her sexual harassment claims, who would come to his defense? He's a nobody with a name hardly anyone recognizes and WME dumped him in a hot second he's so invaluable. It's very odd that he would go after Blake at all. He must be incredibly stupid.

Or this is all exaggerated and cooked up to try to victimize Blake, who can't cope with the public *gasp* simply not liking her.

You're really dense if you think this wasn't a coordinated effort to get you to think a certain way to deflect from Baldoni's problems. You are a useful idiot. And it looks like they have plenty of receipts that this was a coordinated attack, as retaliation. He's effed.

Blah blah blah. Receipts receipts receipts. Harvey’s girl is so puritan now. Nobody cares, PR bot.

You are the PR bot. It's painfully obvious. But keep on keeping on.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m on Blake’s side, but this whole mess confuses me.

Blake and Ryan had a ridiculous amount of power on this film. She was the big star as well as an executive producer. She and Ryan hired the Deadpool editor to do the final cut, which basically means that they have control of the film.

She was responsible for getting the Taylor Swift song in the movie, and she did all the costumes using her own clothes and her best friends clothes.

Ryan even wrote a scene for the film that colleen Hoover didn’t even know about. Sony also had a lot of power here as main financiers and it’s odd that they have stayed out of the fray.

So it is a good reminder that sexism is still strong in Hollywood. And everyone can be subjected to creeps. But it does seem like the public wants a very black or white story. I think there is probably a lot of nuance here. There are missing pieces about how Ryan and Blake were able to get so many of their demands met, yet, weren’t able to get these creepy producers reprimanded or face consequences until now.

It also seems weird that intimacy coordinators were only brought in after problem surfaced. It’s my understanding due to liability like this that intimacy coordinators are now standards on big productions. Jennifer Aniston waived the intimacy coordinator away for The Morning Show because she and John Hamm have a great relationship she’s old school and didn’t want one, but They are there to avoid this kind of liability and it’s confusing to me why on a big production like this, especially dealing with domestic violence, it was an after thought? And if there were problems with the start between Justin and Blake, one was not brought on as soon as they were going to be any intimate scenes. Seems like there’s a missing piece there too.

And why Sony has been completely staying out of this I don’t know, I just feel like there is more to the story, but I definitely feel like blake did not deserve this take down or to be sexually harassed obviously.

I feel similarly conflicted and confused.

What she's alleging seems unquestionably wrong on Baldoni's part. That's harassment and hostile workplace, especially when all taken together.

The PR stuff is different. If he did it to smear her because he knew he'd done this stuff on set and wanted to discredit her in advance, gross. If the situation was more nuanced, I think it's fair game.

Because it doesn't sound like his team made anything up. They used old clips and accurate details about Blake. She... did those things. It's crazy that someone from her own film was using them to get her bad press as the movie was released, but it's not like they lied.

And yes, that brings me to her allegations-- I am confused about the details because she was in a more powerful position than Baldoni on the set, so I don't get how it was handled. I agree we must be missing some facts and context. And I think it's likely that context will make Blake look less innocent, because if it was bad for Baldoni, they would have included it in their complaint.

If it were more nuanced, it wouldn't be the entire cast and book author also shunning him. He clearly p*ssed a lot of people off.

Have they spoken out? Or just stayed quiet/not come to his defense? Blake and especially Ryan are very powerful and if I were Jenny Slate or Colleen Hoover, I wouldn't want to say anything that could be construed as not backing Blake even if the situation is very complex. Baldoni can't protect them.

If all this is true, and he broke the law retaliating against her sexual harassment claims, who would come to his defense? He's a nobody with a name hardly anyone recognizes and WME dumped him in a hot second he's so invaluable. It's very odd that he would go after Blake at all. He must be incredibly stupid.

Or this is all exaggerated and cooked up to try to victimize Blake, who can't cope with the public *gasp* simply not liking her.

You're really dense if you think this wasn't a coordinated effort to get you to think a certain way to deflect from Baldoni's problems. You are a useful idiot. And it looks like they have plenty of receipts that this was a coordinated attack, as retaliation. He's effed.

Blah blah blah. Receipts receipts receipts. Harvey’s girl is so puritan now. Nobody cares, PR bot.

You are the PR bot. It's painfully obvious. But keep on keeping on.

Both sides have bots here. It’s clear when they don’t have a response to a good point. (You don’t know what’s going on! You’re so stupid! Blah blah, bot!)

As a regular old middle aged long-time DC-based reader, I’m kind of delighted for Jeff that he has hit the Hollywood stage. I hope his ad revenue goes up like crazy.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m on Blake’s side, but this whole mess confuses me.

Blake and Ryan had a ridiculous amount of power on this film. She was the big star as well as an executive producer. She and Ryan hired the Deadpool editor to do the final cut, which basically means that they have control of the film.

She was responsible for getting the Taylor Swift song in the movie, and she did all the costumes using her own clothes and her best friends clothes.

Ryan even wrote a scene for the film that colleen Hoover didn’t even know about. Sony also had a lot of power here as main financiers and it’s odd that they have stayed out of the fray.

So it is a good reminder that sexism is still strong in Hollywood. And everyone can be subjected to creeps. But it does seem like the public wants a very black or white story. I think there is probably a lot of nuance here. There are missing pieces about how Ryan and Blake were able to get so many of their demands met, yet, weren’t able to get these creepy producers reprimanded or face consequences until now.

It also seems weird that intimacy coordinators were only brought in after problem surfaced. It’s my understanding due to liability like this that intimacy coordinators are now standards on big productions. Jennifer Aniston waived the intimacy coordinator away for The Morning Show because she and John Hamm have a great relationship she’s old school and didn’t want one, but They are there to avoid this kind of liability and it’s confusing to me why on a big production like this, especially dealing with domestic violence, it was an after thought? And if there were problems with the start between Justin and Blake, one was not brought on as soon as they were going to be any intimate scenes. Seems like there’s a missing piece there too.

And why Sony has been completely staying out of this I don’t know, I just feel like there is more to the story, but I definitely feel like blake did not deserve this take down or to be sexually harassed obviously.

I feel similarly conflicted and confused.

What she's alleging seems unquestionably wrong on Baldoni's part. That's harassment and hostile workplace, especially when all taken together.

The PR stuff is different. If he did it to smear her because he knew he'd done this stuff on set and wanted to discredit her in advance, gross. If the situation was more nuanced, I think it's fair game.

Because it doesn't sound like his team made anything up. They used old clips and accurate details about Blake. She... did those things. It's crazy that someone from her own film was using them to get her bad press as the movie was released, but it's not like they lied.

And yes, that brings me to her allegations-- I am confused about the details because she was in a more powerful position than Baldoni on the set, so I don't get how it was handled. I agree we must be missing some facts and context. And I think it's likely that context will make Blake look less innocent, because if it was bad for Baldoni, they would have included it in their complaint.

If it were more nuanced, it wouldn't be the entire cast and book author also shunning him. He clearly p*ssed a lot of people off.

Have they spoken out? Or just stayed quiet/not come to his defense? Blake and especially Ryan are very powerful and if I were Jenny Slate or Colleen Hoover, I wouldn't want to say anything that could be construed as not backing Blake even if the situation is very complex. Baldoni can't protect them.

If all this is true, and he broke the law retaliating against her sexual harassment claims, who would come to his defense? He's a nobody with a name hardly anyone recognizes and WME dumped him in a hot second he's so invaluable. It's very odd that he would go after Blake at all. He must be incredibly stupid.

Or this is all exaggerated and cooked up to try to victimize Blake, who can't cope with the public *gasp* simply not liking her.

You're really dense if you think this wasn't a coordinated effort to get you to think a certain way to deflect from Baldoni's problems. You are a useful idiot. And it looks like they have plenty of receipts that this was a coordinated attack, as retaliation. He's effed.

Blah blah blah. Receipts receipts receipts. Harvey’s girl is so puritan now. Nobody cares, PR bot.

You are the PR bot. It's painfully obvious. But keep on keeping on.

Both sides have bots here. It’s clear when they don’t have a response to a good point. (You don’t know what’s going on! You’re so stupid! Blah blah, bot!)

As a regular old middle aged long-time DC-based reader, I’m kind of delighted for Jeff that he has hit the Hollywood stage. I hope his ad revenue goes up like crazy.

You sound extremely paranoid seeing bots where ever you go. I wonder why you're so obsessed with Blake at your advance age. It's weird as hell.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m on Blake’s side, but this whole mess confuses me.

Blake and Ryan had a ridiculous amount of power on this film. She was the big star as well as an executive producer. She and Ryan hired the Deadpool editor to do the final cut, which basically means that they have control of the film.

She was responsible for getting the Taylor Swift song in the movie, and she did all the costumes using her own clothes and her best friends clothes.

Ryan even wrote a scene for the film that colleen Hoover didn’t even know about. Sony also had a lot of power here as main financiers and it’s odd that they have stayed out of the fray.

So it is a good reminder that sexism is still strong in Hollywood. And everyone can be subjected to creeps. But it does seem like the public wants a very black or white story. I think there is probably a lot of nuance here. There are missing pieces about how Ryan and Blake were able to get so many of their demands met, yet, weren’t able to get these creepy producers reprimanded or face consequences until now.

It also seems weird that intimacy coordinators were only brought in after problem surfaced. It’s my understanding due to liability like this that intimacy coordinators are now standards on big productions. Jennifer Aniston waived the intimacy coordinator away for The Morning Show because she and John Hamm have a great relationship she’s old school and didn’t want one, but They are there to avoid this kind of liability and it’s confusing to me why on a big production like this, especially dealing with domestic violence, it was an after thought? And if there were problems with the start between Justin and Blake, one was not brought on as soon as they were going to be any intimate scenes. Seems like there’s a missing piece there too.

And why Sony has been completely staying out of this I don’t know, I just feel like there is more to the story, but I definitely feel like blake did not deserve this take down or to be sexually harassed obviously.

Don’t underestimate the degree to which two weirdos at the top can throw things into chaos. But in general the timeline supports your viewpoint - after several repeated incidents Blake flexed her muscles to demand a list of accomodations to restart filming after the production halted for the writers strike.

What I am confused about is why, after she got what she wanted, Blake coordinated the public freeze-out of Justin?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m on Blake’s side, but this whole mess confuses me.

Blake and Ryan had a ridiculous amount of power on this film. She was the big star as well as an executive producer. She and Ryan hired the Deadpool editor to do the final cut, which basically means that they have control of the film.

She was responsible for getting the Taylor Swift song in the movie, and she did all the costumes using her own clothes and her best friends clothes.

Ryan even wrote a scene for the film that colleen Hoover didn’t even know about. Sony also had a lot of power here as main financiers and it’s odd that they have stayed out of the fray.

So it is a good reminder that sexism is still strong in Hollywood. And everyone can be subjected to creeps. But it does seem like the public wants a very black or white story. I think there is probably a lot of nuance here. There are missing pieces about how Ryan and Blake were able to get so many of their demands met, yet, weren’t able to get these creepy producers reprimanded or face consequences until now.

It also seems weird that intimacy coordinators were only brought in after problem surfaced. It’s my understanding due to liability like this that intimacy coordinators are now standards on big productions. Jennifer Aniston waived the intimacy coordinator away for The Morning Show because she and John Hamm have a great relationship she’s old school and didn’t want one, but They are there to avoid this kind of liability and it’s confusing to me why on a big production like this, especially dealing with domestic violence, it was an after thought? And if there were problems with the start between Justin and Blake, one was not brought on as soon as they were going to be any intimate scenes. Seems like there’s a missing piece there too.

And why Sony has been completely staying out of this I don’t know, I just feel like there is more to the story, but I definitely feel like blake did not deserve this take down or to be sexually harassed obviously.

Don’t underestimate the degree to which two weirdos at the top can throw things into chaos. But in general the timeline supports your viewpoint - after several repeated incidents Blake flexed her muscles to demand a list of accomodations to restart filming after the production halted for the writers strike.

What I am confused about is why, after she got what she wanted, Blake coordinated the public freeze-out of Justin?

Do you embrace people who sexually harassed you and stay besties?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m on Blake’s side, but this whole mess confuses me.

Blake and Ryan had a ridiculous amount of power on this film. She was the big star as well as an executive producer. She and Ryan hired the Deadpool editor to do the final cut, which basically means that they have control of the film.

She was responsible for getting the Taylor Swift song in the movie, and she did all the costumes using her own clothes and her best friends clothes.

Ryan even wrote a scene for the film that colleen Hoover didn’t even know about. Sony also had a lot of power here as main financiers and it’s odd that they have stayed out of the fray.

So it is a good reminder that sexism is still strong in Hollywood. And everyone can be subjected to creeps. But it does seem like the public wants a very black or white story. I think there is probably a lot of nuance here. There are missing pieces about how Ryan and Blake were able to get so many of their demands met, yet, weren’t able to get these creepy producers reprimanded or face consequences until now.

It also seems weird that intimacy coordinators were only brought in after problem surfaced. It’s my understanding due to liability like this that intimacy coordinators are now standards on big productions. Jennifer Aniston waived the intimacy coordinator away for The Morning Show because she and John Hamm have a great relationship she’s old school and didn’t want one, but They are there to avoid this kind of liability and it’s confusing to me why on a big production like this, especially dealing with domestic violence, it was an after thought? And if there were problems with the start between Justin and Blake, one was not brought on as soon as they were going to be any intimate scenes. Seems like there’s a missing piece there too.

And why Sony has been completely staying out of this I don’t know, I just feel like there is more to the story, but I definitely feel like blake did not deserve this take down or to be sexually harassed obviously.

I feel similarly conflicted and confused.

What she's alleging seems unquestionably wrong on Baldoni's part. That's harassment and hostile workplace, especially when all taken together.

The PR stuff is different. If he did it to smear her because he knew he'd done this stuff on set and wanted to discredit her in advance, gross. If the situation was more nuanced, I think it's fair game.

Because it doesn't sound like his team made anything up. They used old clips and accurate details about Blake. She... did those things. It's crazy that someone from her own film was using them to get her bad press as the movie was released, but it's not like they lied.

And yes, that brings me to her allegations-- I am confused about the details because she was in a more powerful position than Baldoni on the set, so I don't get how it was handled. I agree we must be missing some facts and context. And I think it's likely that context will make Blake look less innocent, because if it was bad for Baldoni, they would have included it in their complaint.

If it were more nuanced, it wouldn't be the entire cast and book author also shunning him. He clearly p*ssed a lot of people off.

Have they spoken out? Or just stayed quiet/not come to his defense? Blake and especially Ryan are very powerful and if I were Jenny Slate or Colleen Hoover, I wouldn't want to say anything that could be construed as not backing Blake even if the situation is very complex. Baldoni can't protect them.

If all this is true, and he broke the law retaliating against her sexual harassment claims, who would come to his defense? He's a nobody with a name hardly anyone recognizes and WME dumped him in a hot second he's so invaluable. It's very odd that he would go after Blake at all. He must be incredibly stupid.

Or this is all exaggerated and cooked up to try to victimize Blake, who can't cope with the public *grasp* simply not liking her.

You're really dense if you think this wasn't a coordinated effort to get you to think a certain way to deflect from Baldoni's problems. You are a useful idiot. And it looks like they have plenty of receipts that this was a coordinated attack, as retaliation. He's effed.

+1 There's a good reason WME dropped him immediately.

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Anyone else believe her and also dislike her? That’s where I am.

She just seems so snotty and smug.