Option H is permanent and the old Wootton HS campus will be closed for good?

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like this discussion could use some grounding in numbers. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the actual Option H involves:

- 1800 existing Wootton students +
- About 400 additional students
= 2200 students in the Crown building

Is that correct?

No, 1900 Wootton students +500ish in crown/fields road per option table

Again, Fields Road is not at Wootton/Crown in option H.

And again, it makes logical sense for them to go to Crown as it was and still should be their school. It was for them. The gaithersburg community is highly opposed to option H and have made it clear that the only way they might accept it is if fields road is added. Don’t be so focused on what is in option H in written form. There is so much more.

IMO-I think there is literally no chance Wootton moves to Crown. There is simply not enough support for it and it’s making MCPS look so bad (I mean if they could actually look worse).

Gaithersburg was promised a school. It is unfair to take it away for some rich families who are complaining when no other school is offered that.

Reading all posts conclude that Wootton HS is not in a bad shape as they claim for to the public. They don't want new Crown HS, and that means they better not to complain further to the public that MCPS do not hear them or ignore them. Gaithersburg probably do not mind getting a new Crown HS no matter if Wootton is moving there or not. It is just that the public resource "Crown HS" could be more better used effectively, efficiently and timely in option H.

I think you posted like at least dozens of times of the same comments. Seriously Wootton in a bad shape is not equivalent to accepting closing the school and merge to a new school.

PP gets it. They just want to see a W school destroyed.

You over value your w schools. Most of us don’t care. Some of us choose not to put our kids in those environments as we came from them and know the culture isn’t healthy.

What I do care about is the lack of equity in terms of course offerings, facilities and stuff. Our kids shouldn’t have to go without science labs, sports equipment and uniforms, music and theater, photography and other things while your kids have access to it.

So, while our kids go without and are in equally bad facilities you want to shift more funding to your schools vs allow all kids safe environments and have access to what they need.

We could comfortably pay cash for a new home to go to a W school but it’s the culture and attitudes that keeps us where we are at.

This is a work of fiction. Nobody who could provide better for their kids would choose not to. Give me a break.

Define better? You need to look at the full picture and not just your ego. I very purposefully picked where we lived as I grew up in a w school and it’s not what we wanted. Except for the lack of offerings, my kids are happy at their schools and the schools are much more down to earth. And less competition for college.

I can totally understand someone who grew up in the W schools not wanting that environment for their kids. But I'm curious which school did you pick instead? There are plenty of good, non-W schools that aren't lacking science labs, sports equipment/uniforms, music and theater - schools such as QO, RM, Rockville, Northwest, etc. Which school did you pick instead that is lacking all those things?

Many schools don’t have it. Either the boosters and pta provide or they go without. We just do activities outside of Mcps.

Or, imagine you just “paid cash” as you said you are able for a home that would have your kids attend a school that actually could provide these things instead of making your kids go to a school you could use for your own virtue signaling needs.

DP. It's one public school system, operating at the county level. Should it be failing to provide reasonably equivalent services to the individuals it is charged by the state to serve? Or should we do away with the concept of equal protection?

This Wootton poster doesn’t believe every child deserves the same safe schools and equal opportunities. But, they also cannot come up with a solution outside immediate replacement and if they want that they need to find the funds.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like this discussion could use some grounding in numbers. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the actual Option H involves:

- 1800 existing Wootton students +
- About 400 additional students
= 2200 students in the Crown building

Is that correct?

No, 1900 Wootton students +500ish in crown/fields road per option table

Again, Fields Road is not at Wootton/Crown in option H.

And again, it makes logical sense for them to go to Crown as it was and still should be their school. It was for them. The gaithersburg community is highly opposed to option H and have made it clear that the only way they might accept it is if fields road is added. Don’t be so focused on what is in option H in written form. There is so much more.

IMO-I think there is literally no chance Wootton moves to Crown. There is simply not enough support for it and it’s making MCPS look so bad (I mean if they could actually look worse).

Gaithersburg was promised a school. It is unfair to take it away for some rich families who are complaining when no other school is offered that.

Oh please, cry me a river! Gaithersburg high is gorgeous compared to Wootton!

Most of our schools are falling apart. Take crown or wait your turn. Simple.

They already say that they will oppose Option H and they will wait for their turns at 2035 without any fuss anymore. So we should let them be.

But they don't want to let Wootton be. They want to forcibly move Wootton to Crown, regardless of what Wootton families want.

No one cares. We care about our taxes going up to pay for all this. If you don’t like crown and refuse to wait your turn for repairs, again, what suggestions for solutions do you have. The condition at many schools is bad but there are ones far worse than Wootton that need priority.

You keep saying this but there is actually only one school in worse condition than Wootton per the actual data. So that is not plural as you keep saying.

No, there are multiple schools they just aren’t complaining.

No, you are wrong. There is an actual rating system MCPS used when the schools are evaluated for problems. And Wootton is the second worst. This is from the BOE-I didn’t make it up.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like this discussion could use some grounding in numbers. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the actual Option H involves:

- 1800 existing Wootton students +
- About 400 additional students
= 2200 students in the Crown building

Is that correct?

No, 1900 Wootton students +500ish in crown/fields road per option table

Again, Fields Road is not at Wootton/Crown in option H.

And again, it makes logical sense for them to go to Crown as it was and still should be their school. It was for them. The gaithersburg community is highly opposed to option H and have made it clear that the only way they might accept it is if fields road is added. Don’t be so focused on what is in option H in written form. There is so much more.

IMO-I think there is literally no chance Wootton moves to Crown. There is simply not enough support for it and it’s making MCPS look so bad (I mean if they could actually look worse).

Gaithersburg was promised a school. It is unfair to take it away for some rich families who are complaining when no other school is offered that.

Oh please, cry me a river! Gaithersburg high is gorgeous compared to Wootton!

Most of our schools are falling apart. Take crown or wait your turn. Simple.

They already say that they will oppose Option H and they will wait for their turns at 2035 without any fuss anymore. So we should let them be.

But they don't want to let Wootton be. They want to forcibly move Wootton to Crown, regardless of what Wootton families want.

No one cares. We care about our taxes going up to pay for all this. If you don’t like crown and refuse to wait your turn for repairs, again, what suggestions for solutions do you have. The condition at many schools is bad but there are ones far worse than Wootton that need priority.

You keep saying this but there is actually only one school in worse condition than Wootton per the actual data. So that is not plural as you keep saying.

No, there are multiple schools they just aren’t complaining.

No, you are wrong. There is an actual rating system MCPS used when the schools are evaluated for problems. And Wootton is the second worst. This is from the BOE-I didn’t make it up.

Those things change depending on when incidents happen. You will be getting repairs, just not starting today. Don’t like it, come up with a better solution or funds to pay for it. You complain but cannot offer a reasonable solution. Why is that?

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like this discussion could use some grounding in numbers. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the actual Option H involves:

- 1800 existing Wootton students +
- About 400 additional students
= 2200 students in the Crown building

Is that correct?

No, 1900 Wootton students +500ish in crown/fields road per option table

Again, Fields Road is not at Wootton/Crown in option H.

And again, it makes logical sense for them to go to Crown as it was and still should be their school. It was for them. The gaithersburg community is highly opposed to option H and have made it clear that the only way they might accept it is if fields road is added. Don’t be so focused on what is in option H in written form. There is so much more.

IMO-I think there is literally no chance Wootton moves to Crown. There is simply not enough support for it and it’s making MCPS look so bad (I mean if they could actually look worse).

Gaithersburg was promised a school. It is unfair to take it away for some rich families who are complaining when no other school is offered that.

Oh please, cry me a river! Gaithersburg high is gorgeous compared to Wootton!

Most of our schools are falling apart. Take crown or wait your turn. Simple.

They already say that they will oppose Option H and they will wait for their turns at 2035 without any fuss anymore. So we should let them be.

But they don't want to let Wootton be. They want to forcibly move Wootton to Crown, regardless of what Wootton families want.

No one cares. We care about our taxes going up to pay for all this. If you don’t like crown and refuse to wait your turn for repairs, again, what suggestions for solutions do you have. The condition at many schools is bad but there are ones far worse than Wootton that need priority.

You keep saying this but there is actually only one school in worse condition than Wootton per the actual data. So that is not plural as you keep saying.

No, there are multiple schools they just aren’t complaining.

No, you are wrong. There is an actual rating system MCPS used when the schools are evaluated for problems. And Wootton is the second worst. This is from the BOE-I didn’t make it up.

Those things change depending on when incidents happen. You will be getting repairs, just not starting today. Don’t like it, come up with a better solution or funds to pay for it. You complain but cannot offer a reasonable solution. Why is that?

You know there is more than one poster one here right? I don’t know who you are responding to but all i’m saying is based on how the school system rates the schools condition, Wootton is second on the list as far as the highest rating. Because you keep saying that it is wrong and it is not-it’s based on the data from the BOE.

Anyway-if I had to offer a solution it would be to fix a couple of the really emergent things over the next couple of summers and just stay on the CIP. Which is the same as many people want. Of course you will come back with “there is no money for even the most emergent of repairs” and all i’ll say is somehow when there is a flood or a ceiling collapses at a school it seems money suddenly appears to fix it.

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Wow, this person is asking to swap a lower income elementary to repair Wootton.

https://www.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DMVQRQ6A7E72/$file/Junhua%20Liu%20Testimony%20102825.pdf

“ • Wootton would be the 3rd least expensive rebuild per student of any recommended
capital improvement at under $159,000. Highland View Elementary will serve far
fewer students and cost almost $244,000 per studen”

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like this discussion could use some grounding in numbers. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the actual Option H involves:

- 1800 existing Wootton students +
- About 400 additional students
= 2200 students in the Crown building

Is that correct?

No, 1900 Wootton students +500ish in crown/fields road per option table

Again, Fields Road is not at Wootton/Crown in option H.

And again, it makes logical sense for them to go to Crown as it was and still should be their school. It was for them. The gaithersburg community is highly opposed to option H and have made it clear that the only way they might accept it is if fields road is added. Don’t be so focused on what is in option H in written form. There is so much more.

IMO-I think there is literally no chance Wootton moves to Crown. There is simply not enough support for it and it’s making MCPS look so bad (I mean if they could actually look worse).

Gaithersburg was promised a school. It is unfair to take it away for some rich families who are complaining when no other school is offered that.

Oh please, cry me a river! Gaithersburg high is gorgeous compared to Wootton!

Most of our schools are falling apart. Take crown or wait your turn. Simple.

They already say that they will oppose Option H and they will wait for their turns at 2035 without any fuss anymore. So we should let them be.

But they don't want to let Wootton be. They want to forcibly move Wootton to Crown, regardless of what Wootton families want.

No one cares. We care about our taxes going up to pay for all this. If you don’t like crown and refuse to wait your turn for repairs, again, what suggestions for solutions do you have. The condition at many schools is bad but there are ones far worse than Wootton that need priority.

You keep saying this but there is actually only one school in worse condition than Wootton per the actual data. So that is not plural as you keep saying.

No, there are multiple schools they just aren’t complaining.

No, you are wrong. There is an actual rating system MCPS used when the schools are evaluated for problems. And Wootton is the second worst. This is from the BOE-I didn’t make it up.

Those things change depending on when incidents happen. You will be getting repairs, just not starting today. Don’t like it, come up with a better solution or funds to pay for it. You complain but cannot offer a reasonable solution. Why is that?

You know there is more than one poster one here right? I don’t know who you are responding to but all i’m saying is based on how the school system rates the schools condition, Wootton is second on the list as far as the highest rating. Because you keep saying that it is wrong and it is not-it’s based on the data from the BOE.

Anyway-if I had to offer a solution it would be to fix a couple of the really emergent things over the next couple of summers and just stay on the CIP. Which is the same as many people want. Of course you will come back with “there is no money for even the most emergent of repairs” and all i’ll say is somehow when there is a flood or a ceiling collapses at a school it seems money suddenly appears to fix it.

They need to reassess that if ceilings are falling down and widespread flooding that could kill someone.

Immediate emergency fixes isn’t what is being discussed. Wootton is on the list for renewal and you don’t want to wait, nor take crown, so what reasonable solution can you offer that is equitable to other schools?

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And, Wootton has gotten some upgrades unlike other schools.

https://woottoncommonsense.com/22309/opinion/new-bathrooms-disappoint-prove-to-be-inconvenient/

https://woottoncommonsense.com/22110/news/students-staff-return-to-building-improvements/

https://woottoncommonsense.com/22106/opinion/a-coat-of-paint-or-the-easy-way-out/

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like this discussion could use some grounding in numbers. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the actual Option H involves:

- 1800 existing Wootton students +
- About 400 additional students
= 2200 students in the Crown building

Is that correct?

No, 1900 Wootton students +500ish in crown/fields road per option table

Again, Fields Road is not at Wootton/Crown in option H.

And again, it makes logical sense for them to go to Crown as it was and still should be their school. It was for them. The gaithersburg community is highly opposed to option H and have made it clear that the only way they might accept it is if fields road is added. Don’t be so focused on what is in option H in written form. There is so much more.

IMO-I think there is literally no chance Wootton moves to Crown. There is simply not enough support for it and it’s making MCPS look so bad (I mean if they could actually look worse).

Gaithersburg was promised a school. It is unfair to take it away for some rich families who are complaining when no other school is offered that.

Oh please, cry me a river! Gaithersburg high is gorgeous compared to Wootton!

Most of our schools are falling apart. Take crown or wait your turn. Simple.

They already say that they will oppose Option H and they will wait for their turns at 2035 without any fuss anymore. So we should let them be.

But they don't want to let Wootton be. They want to forcibly move Wootton to Crown, regardless of what Wootton families want.

No one cares. We care about our taxes going up to pay for all this. If you don’t like crown and refuse to wait your turn for repairs, again, what suggestions for solutions do you have. The condition at many schools is bad but there are ones far worse than Wootton that need priority.

You keep saying this but there is actually only one school in worse condition than Wootton per the actual data. So that is not plural as you keep saying.

No, there are multiple schools they just aren’t complaining.

No, you are wrong. There is an actual rating system MCPS used when the schools are evaluated for problems. And Wootton is the second worst. This is from the BOE-I didn’t make it up.

Those things change depending on when incidents happen. You will be getting repairs, just not starting today. Don’t like it, come up with a better solution or funds to pay for it. You complain but cannot offer a reasonable solution. Why is that?

You know there is more than one poster one here right? I don’t know who you are responding to but all i’m saying is based on how the school system rates the schools condition, Wootton is second on the list as far as the highest rating. Because you keep saying that it is wrong and it is not-it’s based on the data from the BOE.

Anyway-if I had to offer a solution it would be to fix a couple of the really emergent things over the next couple of summers and just stay on the CIP. Which is the same as many people want. Of course you will come back with “there is no money for even the most emergent of repairs” and all i’ll say is somehow when there is a flood or a ceiling collapses at a school it seems money suddenly appears to fix it.

They need to reassess that if ceilings are falling down and widespread flooding that could kill someone.

Immediate emergency fixes isn’t what is being discussed. Wootton is on the list for renewal and you don’t want to wait, nor take crown, so what reasonable solution can you offer that is equitable to other schools?

I already answered you. I don’t have magical answers-just like nobody does. If we have to stay on the CIP and nothing is fixed then so be it.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like this discussion could use some grounding in numbers. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the actual Option H involves:

- 1800 existing Wootton students +
- About 400 additional students
= 2200 students in the Crown building

Is that correct?

No, 1900 Wootton students +500ish in crown/fields road per option table

Again, Fields Road is not at Wootton/Crown in option H.

And again, it makes logical sense for them to go to Crown as it was and still should be their school. It was for them. The gaithersburg community is highly opposed to option H and have made it clear that the only way they might accept it is if fields road is added. Don’t be so focused on what is in option H in written form. There is so much more.

IMO-I think there is literally no chance Wootton moves to Crown. There is simply not enough support for it and it’s making MCPS look so bad (I mean if they could actually look worse).

Gaithersburg was promised a school. It is unfair to take it away for some rich families who are complaining when no other school is offered that.

Oh please, cry me a river! Gaithersburg high is gorgeous compared to Wootton!

Most of our schools are falling apart. Take crown or wait your turn. Simple.

They already say that they will oppose Option H and they will wait for their turns at 2035 without any fuss anymore. So we should let them be.

But they don't want to let Wootton be. They want to forcibly move Wootton to Crown, regardless of what Wootton families want.

No one cares. We care about our taxes going up to pay for all this. If you don’t like crown and refuse to wait your turn for repairs, again, what suggestions for solutions do you have. The condition at many schools is bad but there are ones far worse than Wootton that need priority.

You keep saying this but there is actually only one school in worse condition than Wootton per the actual data. So that is not plural as you keep saying.

No, there are multiple schools they just aren’t complaining.

No, you are wrong. There is an actual rating system MCPS used when the schools are evaluated for problems. And Wootton is the second worst. This is from the BOE-I didn’t make it up.

Those things change depending on when incidents happen. You will be getting repairs, just not starting today. Don’t like it, come up with a better solution or funds to pay for it. You complain but cannot offer a reasonable solution. Why is that?

You know there is more than one poster one here right? I don’t know who you are responding to but all i’m saying is based on how the school system rates the schools condition, Wootton is second on the list as far as the highest rating. Because you keep saying that it is wrong and it is not-it’s based on the data from the BOE.

Anyway-if I had to offer a solution it would be to fix a couple of the really emergent things over the next couple of summers and just stay on the CIP. Which is the same as many people want. Of course you will come back with “there is no money for even the most emergent of repairs” and all i’ll say is somehow when there is a flood or a ceiling collapses at a school it seems money suddenly appears to fix it.

They need to reassess that if ceilings are falling down and widespread flooding that could kill someone.

Immediate emergency fixes isn’t what is being discussed. Wootton is on the list for renewal and you don’t want to wait, nor take crown, so what reasonable solution can you offer that is equitable to other schools?

I already answered you. I don’t have magical answers-just like nobody does. If we have to stay on the CIP and nothing is fixed then so be it.

With all your complaining I would think you could offer funds that could be taken from other things in the budget.

The only way to get all these schools fixed and improved is to do a full line by line audit, cut out the waste, and get real about spending. They should be showing full transparency in spending tax payer money as Taylor and the BOE promised. Instead of fighting over take crown at least temporarily and hold those in charge accountable.

Wootton has had updates and is in line for a major renovation. Other schools are equally bad and not even on the list. Ideally all the old buildings should be torn down and not just fixed as there is no good way to fix a building with mold once it’s in the school which is why I’d jump at crown as it will be hopefully a much healthier environment for everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like this discussion could use some grounding in numbers. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the actual Option H involves:

- 1800 existing Wootton students +
- About 400 additional students
= 2200 students in the Crown building

Is that correct?

No, 1900 Wootton students +500ish in crown/fields road per option table

Again, Fields Road is not at Wootton/Crown in option H.

And again, it makes logical sense for them to go to Crown as it was and still should be their school. It was for them. The gaithersburg community is highly opposed to option H and have made it clear that the only way they might accept it is if fields road is added. Don’t be so focused on what is in option H in written form. There is so much more.

IMO-I think there is literally no chance Wootton moves to Crown. There is simply not enough support for it and it’s making MCPS look so bad (I mean if they could actually look worse).

Gaithersburg was promised a school. It is unfair to take it away for some rich families who are complaining when no other school is offered that.

Oh please, cry me a river! Gaithersburg high is gorgeous compared to Wootton!

Most of our schools are falling apart. Take crown or wait your turn. Simple.

They already say that they will oppose Option H and they will wait for their turns at 2035 without any fuss anymore. So we should let them be.

But they don't want to let Wootton be. They want to forcibly move Wootton to Crown, regardless of what Wootton families want.

No one cares. We care about our taxes going up to pay for all this. If you don’t like crown and refuse to wait your turn for repairs, again, what suggestions for solutions do you have. The condition at many schools is bad but there are ones far worse than Wootton that need priority.

You keep saying this but there is actually only one school in worse condition than Wootton per the actual data. So that is not plural as you keep saying.

No, there are multiple schools they just aren’t complaining.

No, you are wrong. There is an actual rating system MCPS used when the schools are evaluated for problems. And Wootton is the second worst. This is from the BOE-I didn’t make it up.

Those things change depending on when incidents happen. You will be getting repairs, just not starting today. Don’t like it, come up with a better solution or funds to pay for it. You complain but cannot offer a reasonable solution. Why is that?

You know there is more than one poster one here right? I don’t know who you are responding to but all i’m saying is based on how the school system rates the schools condition, Wootton is second on the list as far as the highest rating. Because you keep saying that it is wrong and it is not-it’s based on the data from the BOE.

Anyway-if I had to offer a solution it would be to fix a couple of the really emergent things over the next couple of summers and just stay on the CIP. Which is the same as many people want. Of course you will come back with “there is no money for even the most emergent of repairs” and all i’ll say is somehow when there is a flood or a ceiling collapses at a school it seems money suddenly appears to fix it.

They need to reassess that if ceilings are falling down and widespread flooding that could kill someone.

Immediate emergency fixes isn’t what is being discussed. Wootton is on the list for renewal and you don’t want to wait, nor take crown, so what reasonable solution can you offer that is equitable to other schools?

I already answered you. I don’t have magical answers-just like nobody does. If we have to stay on the CIP and nothing is fixed then so be it.

With all your complaining I would think you could offer funds that could be taken from other things in the budget.

The only way to get all these schools fixed and improved is to do a full line by line audit, cut out the waste, and get real about spending. They should be showing full transparency in spending tax payer money as Taylor and the BOE promised. Instead of fighting over take crown at least temporarily and hold those in charge accountable.

Wootton has had updates and is in line for a major renovation. Other schools are equally bad and not even on the list. Ideally all the old buildings should be torn down and not just fixed as there is no good way to fix a building with mold once it’s in the school which is why I’d jump at crown as it will be hopefully a much healthier environment for everyone.

Again, there is more than one poster-so I don’t know why you seem to think I made all these comments “complaining”. But I don’t disagree that there needs to be major transparency in regards to spending and a full audit.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like this discussion could use some grounding in numbers. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the actual Option H involves:

- 1800 existing Wootton students +
- About 400 additional students
= 2200 students in the Crown building

Is that correct?

No, 1900 Wootton students +500ish in crown/fields road per option table

Again, Fields Road is not at Wootton/Crown in option H.

And again, it makes logical sense for them to go to Crown as it was and still should be their school. It was for them. The gaithersburg community is highly opposed to option H and have made it clear that the only way they might accept it is if fields road is added. Don’t be so focused on what is in option H in written form. There is so much more.

IMO-I think there is literally no chance Wootton moves to Crown. There is simply not enough support for it and it’s making MCPS look so bad (I mean if they could actually look worse).

Gaithersburg was promised a school. It is unfair to take it away for some rich families who are complaining when no other school is offered that.

Oh please, cry me a river! Gaithersburg high is gorgeous compared to Wootton!

Most of our schools are falling apart. Take crown or wait your turn. Simple.

They already say that they will oppose Option H and they will wait for their turns at 2035 without any fuss anymore. So we should let them be.

But they don't want to let Wootton be. They want to forcibly move Wootton to Crown, regardless of what Wootton families want.

No one cares. We care about our taxes going up to pay for all this. If you don’t like crown and refuse to wait your turn for repairs, again, what suggestions for solutions do you have. The condition at many schools is bad but there are ones far worse than Wootton that need priority.

You keep saying this but there is actually only one school in worse condition than Wootton per the actual data. So that is not plural as you keep saying.

No, there are multiple schools they just aren’t complaining.

No, you are wrong. There is an actual rating system MCPS used when the schools are evaluated for problems. And Wootton is the second worst. This is from the BOE-I didn’t make it up.

Those things change depending on when incidents happen. You will be getting repairs, just not starting today. Don’t like it, come up with a better solution or funds to pay for it. You complain but cannot offer a reasonable solution. Why is that?

You know there is more than one poster one here right? I don’t know who you are responding to but all i’m saying is based on how the school system rates the schools condition, Wootton is second on the list as far as the highest rating. Because you keep saying that it is wrong and it is not-it’s based on the data from the BOE.

Anyway-if I had to offer a solution it would be to fix a couple of the really emergent things over the next couple of summers and just stay on the CIP. Which is the same as many people want. Of course you will come back with “there is no money for even the most emergent of repairs” and all i’ll say is somehow when there is a flood or a ceiling collapses at a school it seems money suddenly appears to fix it.

They need to reassess that if ceilings are falling down and widespread flooding that could kill someone.

Immediate emergency fixes isn’t what is being discussed. Wootton is on the list for renewal and you don’t want to wait, nor take crown, so what reasonable solution can you offer that is equitable to other schools?

I already answered you. I don’t have magical answers-just like nobody does. If we have to stay on the CIP and nothing is fixed then so be it.

With all your complaining I would think you could offer funds that could be taken from other things in the budget.

The only way to get all these schools fixed and improved is to do a full line by line audit, cut out the waste, and get real about spending. They should be showing full transparency in spending tax payer money as Taylor and the BOE promised. Instead of fighting over take crown at least temporarily and hold those in charge accountable.

Wootton has had updates and is in line for a major renovation. Other schools are equally bad and not even on the list. Ideally all the old buildings should be torn down and not just fixed as there is no good way to fix a building with mold once it’s in the school which is why I’d jump at crown as it will be hopefully a much healthier environment for everyone.

Again, there is more than one poster-so I don’t know why you seem to think I made all these comments “complaining”. But I don’t disagree that there needs to be major transparency in regards to spending and a full audit.

Regardless of one or more posters you all are demanding to be put first in line and bump other schools for repairs and refuse to recognize the seriousness of what’s happening at other schools. A falling ceiling could hurt or kill someone.

You either take Crown, find the money for MCPS or wait in line.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like this discussion could use some grounding in numbers. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the actual Option H involves:

- 1800 existing Wootton students +
- About 400 additional students
= 2200 students in the Crown building

Is that correct?

No, 1900 Wootton students +500ish in crown/fields road per option table

Again, Fields Road is not at Wootton/Crown in option H.

And again, it makes logical sense for them to go to Crown as it was and still should be their school. It was for them. The gaithersburg community is highly opposed to option H and have made it clear that the only way they might accept it is if fields road is added. Don’t be so focused on what is in option H in written form. There is so much more.

IMO-I think there is literally no chance Wootton moves to Crown. There is simply not enough support for it and it’s making MCPS look so bad (I mean if they could actually look worse).

Gaithersburg was promised a school. It is unfair to take it away for some rich families who are complaining when no other school is offered that.

Oh please, cry me a river! Gaithersburg high is gorgeous compared to Wootton!

Most of our schools are falling apart. Take crown or wait your turn. Simple.

They already say that they will oppose Option H and they will wait for their turns at 2035 without any fuss anymore. So we should let them be.

But they don't want to let Wootton be. They want to forcibly move Wootton to Crown, regardless of what Wootton families want.

No one cares. We care about our taxes going up to pay for all this. If you don’t like crown and refuse to wait your turn for repairs, again, what suggestions for solutions do you have. The condition at many schools is bad but there are ones far worse than Wootton that need priority.

You keep saying this but there is actually only one school in worse condition than Wootton per the actual data. So that is not plural as you keep saying.

No, there are multiple schools they just aren’t complaining.

No, you are wrong. There is an actual rating system MCPS used when the schools are evaluated for problems. And Wootton is the second worst. This is from the BOE-I didn’t make it up.

Those things change depending on when incidents happen. You will be getting repairs, just not starting today. Don’t like it, come up with a better solution or funds to pay for it. You complain but cannot offer a reasonable solution. Why is that?

You know there is more than one poster one here right? I don’t know who you are responding to but all i’m saying is based on how the school system rates the schools condition, Wootton is second on the list as far as the highest rating. Because you keep saying that it is wrong and it is not-it’s based on the data from the BOE.

Anyway-if I had to offer a solution it would be to fix a couple of the really emergent things over the next couple of summers and just stay on the CIP. Which is the same as many people want. Of course you will come back with “there is no money for even the most emergent of repairs” and all i’ll say is somehow when there is a flood or a ceiling collapses at a school it seems money suddenly appears to fix it.

They need to reassess that if ceilings are falling down and widespread flooding that could kill someone.

Immediate emergency fixes isn’t what is being discussed. Wootton is on the list for renewal and you don’t want to wait, nor take crown, so what reasonable solution can you offer that is equitable to other schools?

I already answered you. I don’t have magical answers-just like nobody does. If we have to stay on the CIP and nothing is fixed then so be it.

With all your complaining I would think you could offer funds that could be taken from other things in the budget.

The only way to get all these schools fixed and improved is to do a full line by line audit, cut out the waste, and get real about spending. They should be showing full transparency in spending tax payer money as Taylor and the BOE promised. Instead of fighting over take crown at least temporarily and hold those in charge accountable.

Wootton has had updates and is in line for a major renovation. Other schools are equally bad and not even on the list. Ideally all the old buildings should be torn down and not just fixed as there is no good way to fix a building with mold once it’s in the school which is why I’d jump at crown as it will be hopefully a much healthier environment for everyone.

Again, there is more than one poster-so I don’t know why you seem to think I made all these comments “complaining”. But I don’t disagree that there needs to be major transparency in regards to spending and a full audit.

Regardless of one or more posters you all are demanding to be put first in line and bump other schools for repairs and refuse to recognize the seriousness of what’s happening at other schools. A falling ceiling could hurt or kill someone.

You either take Crown, find the money for MCPS or wait in line.

DP. Fine, I'll take that deal. Now what else do you have?

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like this discussion could use some grounding in numbers. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the actual Option H involves:

- 1800 existing Wootton students +
- About 400 additional students
= 2200 students in the Crown building

Is that correct?

No, 1900 Wootton students +500ish in crown/fields road per option table

Again, Fields Road is not at Wootton/Crown in option H.

And again, it makes logical sense for them to go to Crown as it was and still should be their school. It was for them. The gaithersburg community is highly opposed to option H and have made it clear that the only way they might accept it is if fields road is added. Don’t be so focused on what is in option H in written form. There is so much more.

IMO-I think there is literally no chance Wootton moves to Crown. There is simply not enough support for it and it’s making MCPS look so bad (I mean if they could actually look worse).

Gaithersburg was promised a school. It is unfair to take it away for some rich families who are complaining when no other school is offered that.

Reading all posts conclude that Wootton HS is not in a bad shape as they claim for to the public. They don't want new Crown HS, and that means they better not to complain further to the public that MCPS do not hear them or ignore them. Gaithersburg probably do not mind getting a new Crown HS no matter if Wootton is moving there or not. It is just that the public resource "Crown HS" could be more better used effectively, efficiently and timely in option H.

I think you posted like at least dozens of times of the same comments. Seriously Wootton in a bad shape is not equivalent to accepting closing the school and merge to a new school.

PP gets it. They just want to see a W school destroyed.

You over value your w schools. Most of us don’t care. Some of us choose not to put our kids in those environments as we came from them and know the culture isn’t healthy.

What I do care about is the lack of equity in terms of course offerings, facilities and stuff. Our kids shouldn’t have to go without science labs, sports equipment and uniforms, music and theater, photography and other things while your kids have access to it.

So, while our kids go without and are in equally bad facilities you want to shift more funding to your schools vs allow all kids safe environments and have access to what they need.

We could comfortably pay cash for a new home to go to a W school but it’s the culture and attitudes that keeps us where we are at.

This is a work of fiction. Nobody who could provide better for their kids would choose not to. Give me a break.

dp.. we moved from a richer area than MoCo, and chose RM over Wootton. We looked everywhere from North Potomac down to the Churchill cluster, even Kensington, I think. Believe me, we could have afforded a home in a W cluster. We purposefully chose not to live in such a cluster.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like this discussion could use some grounding in numbers. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the actual Option H involves:

- 1800 existing Wootton students +
- About 400 additional students
= 2200 students in the Crown building

Is that correct?

No, 1900 Wootton students +500ish in crown/fields road per option table

Again, Fields Road is not at Wootton/Crown in option H.

And again, it makes logical sense for them to go to Crown as it was and still should be their school. It was for them. The gaithersburg community is highly opposed to option H and have made it clear that the only way they might accept it is if fields road is added. Don’t be so focused on what is in option H in written form. There is so much more.

IMO-I think there is literally no chance Wootton moves to Crown. There is simply not enough support for it and it’s making MCPS look so bad (I mean if they could actually look worse).

Gaithersburg was promised a school. It is unfair to take it away for some rich families who are complaining when no other school is offered that.

Oh please, cry me a river! Gaithersburg high is gorgeous compared to Wootton!

Most of our schools are falling apart. Take crown or wait your turn. Simple.

They already say that they will oppose Option H and they will wait for their turns at 2035 without any fuss anymore. So we should let them be.

But they don't want to let Wootton be. They want to forcibly move Wootton to Crown, regardless of what Wootton families want.

No one cares. We care about our taxes going up to pay for all this. If you don’t like crown and refuse to wait your turn for repairs, again, what suggestions for solutions do you have. The condition at many schools is bad but there are ones far worse than Wootton that need priority.

You keep saying this but there is actually only one school in worse condition than Wootton per the actual data. So that is not plural as you keep saying.

No, there are multiple schools they just aren’t complaining.

No, you are wrong. There is an actual rating system MCPS used when the schools are evaluated for problems. And Wootton is the second worst. This is from the BOE-I didn’t make it up.

Those things change depending on when incidents happen. You will be getting repairs, just not starting today. Don’t like it, come up with a better solution or funds to pay for it. You complain but cannot offer a reasonable solution. Why is that?

You know there is more than one poster one here right? I don’t know who you are responding to but all i’m saying is based on how the school system rates the schools condition, Wootton is second on the list as far as the highest rating. Because you keep saying that it is wrong and it is not-it’s based on the data from the BOE.

Anyway-if I had to offer a solution it would be to fix a couple of the really emergent things over the next couple of summers and just stay on the CIP. Which is the same as many people want. Of course you will come back with “there is no money for even the most emergent of repairs” and all i’ll say is somehow when there is a flood or a ceiling collapses at a school it seems money suddenly appears to fix it.

They need to reassess that if ceilings are falling down and widespread flooding that could kill someone.

Immediate emergency fixes isn’t what is being discussed. Wootton is on the list for renewal and you don’t want to wait, nor take crown, so what reasonable solution can you offer that is equitable to other schools?

I already answered you. I don’t have magical answers-just like nobody does. If we have to stay on the CIP and nothing is fixed then so be it.

With all your complaining I would think you could offer funds that could be taken from other things in the budget.

The only way to get all these schools fixed and improved is to do a full line by line audit, cut out the waste, and get real about spending. They should be showing full transparency in spending tax payer money as Taylor and the BOE promised. Instead of fighting over take crown at least temporarily and hold those in charge accountable.

Wootton has had updates and is in line for a major renovation. Other schools are equally bad and not even on the list. Ideally all the old buildings should be torn down and not just fixed as there is no good way to fix a building with mold once it’s in the school which is why I’d jump at crown as it will be hopefully a much healthier environment for everyone.

I’m not sure why we should tear down every 50 year old school buildings. This seems to be unnecessarily wasteful. There are school buildings over a hundred year old in this country.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like this discussion could use some grounding in numbers. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the actual Option H involves:

- 1800 existing Wootton students +
- About 400 additional students
= 2200 students in the Crown building

Is that correct?

No, 1900 Wootton students +500ish in crown/fields road per option table

Again, Fields Road is not at Wootton/Crown in option H.

And again, it makes logical sense for them to go to Crown as it was and still should be their school. It was for them. The gaithersburg community is highly opposed to option H and have made it clear that the only way they might accept it is if fields road is added. Don’t be so focused on what is in option H in written form. There is so much more.

IMO-I think there is literally no chance Wootton moves to Crown. There is simply not enough support for it and it’s making MCPS look so bad (I mean if they could actually look worse).

Gaithersburg was promised a school. It is unfair to take it away for some rich families who are complaining when no other school is offered that.

Reading all posts conclude that Wootton HS is not in a bad shape as they claim for to the public. They don't want new Crown HS, and that means they better not to complain further to the public that MCPS do not hear them or ignore them. Gaithersburg probably do not mind getting a new Crown HS no matter if Wootton is moving there or not. It is just that the public resource "Crown HS" could be more better used effectively, efficiently and timely in option H.

I think you posted like at least dozens of times of the same comments. Seriously Wootton in a bad shape is not equivalent to accepting closing the school and merge to a new school.

PP gets it. They just want to see a W school destroyed.

You over value your w schools. Most of us don’t care. Some of us choose not to put our kids in those environments as we came from them and know the culture isn’t healthy.

What I do care about is the lack of equity in terms of course offerings, facilities and stuff. Our kids shouldn’t have to go without science labs, sports equipment and uniforms, music and theater, photography and other things while your kids have access to it.

So, while our kids go without and are in equally bad facilities you want to shift more funding to your schools vs allow all kids safe environments and have access to what they need.

We could comfortably pay cash for a new home to go to a W school but it’s the culture and attitudes that keeps us where we are at.

This is a work of fiction. Nobody who could provide better for their kids would choose not to. Give me a break.

dp.. we moved from a richer area than MoCo, and chose RM over Wootton. We looked everywhere from North Potomac down to the Churchill cluster, even Kensington, I think. Believe me, we could have afforded a home in a W cluster. We purposefully chose not to live in such a cluster.

This isn’t really the same thing though. The previous poster was implying that the school they chose to send their kids is a very poor school that doesn’t have money for any programs, uniforms etc…That’s totally different than RM which realistically is really just as good as any of the W schools I’d say-same with QO. To be honest there are only a couple schools in the district that I think even fit the description that the pp is mentioning.