But the percentage of TJ applicants that are Asian at the top two feeder schools is DOUBLE what the percentage of Asians enrolled at the middle school. Something like 2/3 of the TJ applicants from Carson and Longfellow are Asian even though Asians comprise around 1/3 of the student population at the school. |
They were never guaranteed admission to TJ. They will be fine. |
This +1000 |
Repeating something doesn't make it true. If you had worked hard for something in your life, you would probably feel differently. |
It’s true. They will be fine. They have plenty of resources available to them. In fact, they will probably have better chances at top schools at their base school. They were never entitled to a seat at TJ. Shame on their parents if they didn’t prepare them for alternate scenarios. |
Its really easy to say when you are not in their shoes! Just think about it in another way, you are part of a 10 member sales team and 5 of them made the sales quotas, but you produce the most results. But the company doesn't care anything beyond the min quota, picked one at random (or a hypothetical race?) who happened to the least performing of the 5 and gave all the yearly sales commission to that person. Then comes back to you say, you should be fine as you are really good at what you do. .
In this employee's case, there is a chance to win commission again next year, but in case of TJ, you need to understand that this is a really once in a life time opportunity for many of these kids and they hate it to be taken away for stupid political reasons or some kind of weird balancing act at their expense. Don't play games with kids dreams and hard work. If they truly don't deserve it, then its fine. But don't it for some macro level statistics and ignore micro level implications. |
So....the reason for TJ is that you think a lot of the schools in FCPS with fewer Asian kids suck and kids who'd otherwise attend them need special help so they might have some chance to avoid them. Not exactly a ringing endorsement of the other schools attended by the vast majority of kids in those areas. |
| And what about the kids who skip their final class everyday because they have to pick up younger siblings at the elementary school. The kid who is smart but underestimated by teachers due to being raised to swear to express themselves. It aim of the TJ changes was to identify strong kids who haven’t had the parental grooming or opportunities to show their capabilities in the standard way. |
Sorry for being a devils advocate here - I understand what you are saying, but how is giving admission into TJ is going to solve this problem? TJ is located far away from most base schools and commute takes a while. And course work is going to be much more intense compared to base schools. If the kids aren't meeting challenges at their base school because of whatever constraints they currently have, how are they going to be handle the workload at TJ? Kids who are strong and motivated, will usually find a way to stand out and excel in any environment. You can't take a person swimming on the sidelines and expect to do well when you throw them in the middle of the rapids. |
No kid is guaranteed admissions or entitled to a seat. Maybe parents shouldn’t be positing TJ as a “once in a lifetime opportunity”. That’s not healthy for their kids. |
That’s not what I said at all. ?? |
Exactly. And for many of these families, their kids will end up having access to a lot of the same materials that they would have at TJ through the internships secured by their parents over the summer. |
As far as far away goes, for Prince William I agree with you, but most of the poorer schools in FCPS are very close to TJ. Holmes, Poe, and Glasgow are within a 15 minute walk. |
Could it be possible that not many blacks applied and those who did apply were not as qualified as other applicants? |
We’ve looked at the numbers on earlier threads. A high % of black students who were eligible to apply, did apply. And the admission rate was disproportionately low. |