Messersmith contributed about as much to that championship as Barry Switzer did to the Cowboys last Superbowl. That loaded senior class had to run the team for two straight seasons and won despite him, not because of him. |
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Friday’s Games
Mount St Joseph 2 - 0 @ 6:00p #6 Good Counsel 2 - 1 GC -1. MSJ is a tough out McDonogh 1 - 1 @ 6:00p #10 Gonzaga 0 - 2 McD -3. Gonna be a tough season until DOJ arrives Sts Peter & Paul 0 - 2 @ 4:00p Heights 0 - 0 Heights -4. Good comparison game DeMatha 0 - 2 @ Severn School DM +8 Sidwell Friends 0 - 1 @ 4:00p Bishop OConnell (VA) 2 - 1 DOJ -4 Christchurch (VA) 0 - 0 @ St Marys Ryken 1 - 2 CC -3 Maret 0 - 0 @ 4:15p Bishop McNamara 0 - 0 Maret -5 |
Your'e so close! See if you can sound it out. The system worked last year, but not this year. What changed? |
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Predictions for today:
GC 11 MSJ 8 McDonogh 9 GZ 7 Severn 15 DM 5 |
neutral observer, but the players changed, and the coaches have been exposed as frauds |
Honest question - What is the difference between GZ having a down year or DM having a down year and SSAS having a down year? |
How active and bitter the parents are on DCUM? |
King's best year has been a 6 loss season. The difference is now there has been little chance at a regular season title as the years progress and now there is little chance to even make the finals of the WCAC tournament. With the presence of BI, DOJ, BM, there will be zero chance of being in last place. |
| Gonzaga plays too hard of a non conference schedule |
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said nobody |
It’s already happening, but let me tie a couple of posts on this thread together to provide a more complete picture of what GP is up against and for that matter many other schools. 1. The Hilgartner Situation: First, GP didn’t have any real options other than Hilgartner. Is he a good coach? Definitely but not a great one. The proof is that McDonough didn’t try to keep him. People invest in value and quite simply price versus performance wasn’t clearly apparent to McDonough leadership. McDonough throws a ton of money at its lacrosse program so it’s interesting as to why they didn’t try to maintain the relationship. Hilgartner was brought in to resurrect a program. Strong performance equals strong donations from alums which translates into a growing endowment. Endowments are what pay for facilities and programs. Not tuition. Hilgartner will cast a wide net for talent and as stated above that will displace locals. For those who subscribe to posts on this forum saying that GP needs return to the GP of the 90’s, pull your heads out of the sand traps at CCC. GP Lacrosse is going to follow the same model as the other teams like football and basketball. Quite frankly, if those players were available within the belt way Hilgartner’s work would be easy. Competition for quality students is high within the DMV. The implosion of GP Lacrosse in specific has given families permission to look at other schools than GP where the value proposition might be more interesting. 2. GP Boarding: First of all, GP is not a boarding school. It is a day school that incidentally lets 20% of its students spend the night. That is a much different experience than Lawrenceville, Choate, Taft, or Andover. The pervasive “locals only” attitude is a real turn off. Kids talk and from what I hear the dorm experience leaves a lot to be desired. Locals antipathy towards boarders is manifest everywhere certainly on this forum so there is going to be tension between the landed gentry and an administration/coaching staff that has divergent ideas regarding the direction for the program. Families are looking for value and there was a great post comparing the tuition and room/board prices of the various elite boarding school. Turns out GP was one of the most expensive. That creates a real recruiting problem for Hilgartner and GP. Take this example, my kid is a strong student with a solid reputation in lacrosse and we live in Baltimore. It’s too far to commute. He has to board. I do some research and find out other schools aren’t more expensive, have better academics, consistently ranked higher in lacrosse, and are feeders to the IVY league and other top universities. I don’t even have to look far from home. Boys Latin had more IVY League commits than GP this year. That says a lot. Then, I come to site like this where I see GP parents denigrating boarders and transfers. I’m not letting my kid be subjected to that treatment even to the point of singling. The answer is a clear one. Hilgartner has taken on a monumental task. Whatever he’s getting paid he is going to earn every penny. I just don’t think nat this stage of his career he is up to it. |
| GP boarding is a money maker to attract extra full pay international students. No lacrosse stud is going to GP to board. There are so many better options. |
Three starting attack already are. |
| King had some bad luck in 2022. Undefeated and had won against McDonough, Culver, I think Boys Latin, Prep (when they were really good ) Bullis and several other national programs and were ranked #2 in US behind one of the best teams ever—SJC. Then the best offensive player and 5 star player decides to lower his shoulder on a ride again a Heights player….and never played again that year. Had a very hard time generating offense after that. If Matan doesn’t get hurt Gonzaga may have beaten SJC (they were still close with them in title game to end season). |