Ohh, right - now I remember. That was mean and poor Miguel. He looked so crestfallen. |
I thought this too |
I actually liked this episode. Yes, the characters were somewhat “unlikable” BUT I think the shows MAJOR strength is that characters are flawed, as we all are IRL, and a hospital waiting room in a tense situation will bring out those flaws, individual issues, difficult family dynamics, etc. |
It was. He’s always been insufferable, but in a cloying, buffoonish way. He doesn’t have room to take on any more negative qualities. |
I agree it was a mean joke but I also thought it was a very real moment. I feel like, in reality, someone like Toby who uses humor to deflect feelings would make a joke like that and the reaction would be the same. I don't know what it was about that moment but it just felt so realistic to me (and the awkwardness really came through). |
That's exactly why I liked it. So many shows have the characters spew perfect impromptu speeches that no one ever says in real life. In a moment of stress or relief, I would totally say something stupid and awkward like Toby though. |
It wouldn't be very early onset. She's 68 or 69 at this point. She got pregnant at 30 and the triplets are 38 + now. |
That popped into my mind because her memories were oddly precise and detailed. |
I’m even angrier with Randall after this episode. ![]() |
Really? I think Beth was in the wrong. She agreed to the council. He very explicitly asked her if he could run. What did she think life would be like if he won? I mean, it was stupid for him to run, but this is what they agreed to. Maybe it was a dumb decision for them both, but it’s the path they chose. She suddenly rediscovers dance after 20 years and wants to change the deal they made. |
She asked him to drop out though before the dance thing. She asked when things were not going well at home and she lost her job. He still didn’t agree and hadn’t won yet. I think he should have dropped out at that point rather than now. |
This story line is just is pulling these two down the rabbit hole. It started out ridiculous — the Beth character we know would have put a stop to Randal running for a hard-working, low-paying, elected position in another state 2-3 hours away. Even if we pretend it was possible, Beth would have called BS before this ball got rolling. Ok, now that it’s going, Beth would be onboard. Sure, she’d bitch and moan, but she’d be the supportive partner, including taking care of the children and house. She’d rediscover love of dance as a small side and volunteer gig. It would help her deal with Randal’s nonsense. FF to a work dinner conflict scenerio and there’s no way the Randal character that we know would leave that suicide voice mail on Beth’s phone. It’s too contrived, even for a work of fiction. |
I completely agree- it was such a stupid plot line to begin with with its stupidity compounded weekly. When Kate becomes my favorite of the Big 3, something is seriously wrong. |
See, I felt that she was wrong to ask at that point, too, because his campaign was on the upswing and he had already committed to it, gotten people in the community invested in it, etc. But I’ve always had a hard time with the concept of sunk costs! |
Not me. I think Beth is fully wrong and being selfish with the evening dance class stuff. But overall agree it is a stupid storyline that doesn’t fit either character. |