Why is Blake Lively so overrated?

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I def have an opinion on this (which I’ve stated here) but am not a bot. Do ppl seriously think plants or employees of PR firms would waste time on DCUM?

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Anonymous wrote:I def have an opinion on this (which I’ve stated here) but am not a bot. Do ppl seriously think plants or employees of PR firms would waste time on DCUM?

Because I read the NYT article and the world of PR is effed up. Absolutely, yes they do this.

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Anonymous wrote:She stuck by Ryan Reynolds when he was totally bombing and seems like a great mom. She has the wholesome girl next door thing going on with some serious style.

I would be shocked if they ever divorced but I also said that about Pratt/Ferris

You mean the wholesome girl-next-door-who-banged-everyone-in-Hollywood, surely. Before she married and cleaned up that reputation, she was well-known for getting around.

She banged Ben Affleck while filming "The Town" and she and Ryan Reynolds started flirting while he was still married to Scarlet Johansson. She's really annoying as an actor - her stupid mumble-talk and vacant expressions are really grating.

+1. But now she’s some clutch the pearls babe in the woods on set. Give me a break. Who is buying this nonsense?

She can be imperfect and still not deserve being a victim of a toxic sexual harasser. Feminism 101.

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Anonymous wrote:She stuck by Ryan Reynolds when he was totally bombing and seems like a great mom. She has the wholesome girl next door thing going on with some serious style.

I would be shocked if they ever divorced but I also said that about Pratt/Ferris

You mean the wholesome girl-next-door-who-banged-everyone-in-Hollywood, surely. Before she married and cleaned up that reputation, she was well-known for getting around.

She banged Ben Affleck while filming "The Town" and she and Ryan Reynolds started flirting while he was still married to Scarlet Johansson. She's really annoying as an actor - her stupid mumble-talk and vacant expressions are really grating.

+1. But now she’s some clutch the pearls babe in the woods on set. Give me a break. Who is buying this nonsense?

It’s hard to even keep track of the details / or maybe I don’t care enough to learn the gory details. I just am not buying that Blake is some victim though/ sorry PR bots, try harder.

She is a victim based on what the ahole did to her on set (and the entire cast and author clearly also were bothered by him) followed by the coordinated attack plan against her afterwards with texts about "burying her" if she spoke out about his sleaziness. You don't have to like Blake to see he is the biggest @ss in this situation

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Anonymous wrote:I def have an opinion on this (which I’ve stated here) but am not a bot. Do ppl seriously think plants or employees of PR firms would waste time on DCUM?

I have never seen a more obviously spammed story and smear campaign all across the internet. PR and bots working overtime on this one. Hope everyone’s getting holiday bonus pay for this.

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Anonymous wrote:She stuck by Ryan Reynolds when he was totally bombing and seems like a great mom. She has the wholesome girl next door thing going on with some serious style.

I would be shocked if they ever divorced but I also said that about Pratt/Ferris

You mean the wholesome girl-next-door-who-banged-everyone-in-Hollywood, surely. Before she married and cleaned up that reputation, she was well-known for getting around.

She banged Ben Affleck while filming "The Town" and she and Ryan Reynolds started flirting while he was still married to Scarlet Johansson. She's really annoying as an actor - her stupid mumble-talk and vacant expressions are really grating.

+1. But now she’s some clutch the pearls babe in the woods on set. Give me a break. Who is buying this nonsense?

It’s hard to even keep track of the details / or maybe I don’t care enough to learn the gory details. I just am not buying that Blake is some victim though/ sorry PR bots, try harder.

She is a victim based on what the ahole did to her on set (and the entire cast and author clearly also were bothered by him) followed by the coordinated attack plan against her afterwards with texts about "burying her" if she spoke out about his sleaziness. You don't have to like Blake to see he is the biggest @ss in this situation

I read both sides. Typical Hollywood BS. Sleaze in both sides. Much ado about nothing.

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But even then I think one of the biggest villains in this story is Melissa Nathan, his crisis management firm owner who also led the charge for Johnny Depp who is quite disgusting based on what came out in his trial.

Can we canel Ms. Nathan?

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Anonymous wrote:She stuck by Ryan Reynolds when he was totally bombing and seems like a great mom. She has the wholesome girl next door thing going on with some serious style.

I would be shocked if they ever divorced but I also said that about Pratt/Ferris

You mean the wholesome girl-next-door-who-banged-everyone-in-Hollywood, surely. Before she married and cleaned up that reputation, she was well-known for getting around.

She banged Ben Affleck while filming "The Town" and she and Ryan Reynolds started flirting while he was still married to Scarlet Johansson. She's really annoying as an actor - her stupid mumble-talk and vacant expressions are really grating.

+1. But now she’s some clutch the pearls babe in the woods on set. Give me a break. Who is buying this nonsense?

It’s hard to even keep track of the details / or maybe I don’t care enough to learn the gory details. I just am not buying that Blake is some victim though/ sorry PR bots, try harder.

She is a victim based on what the ahole did to her on set (and the entire cast and author clearly also were bothered by him) followed by the coordinated attack plan against her afterwards with texts about "burying her" if she spoke out about his sleaziness. You don't have to like Blake to see he is the biggest @ss in this situation

Seems like she’s doing the same thing- no? Lots of smearing of him right now with all the paid articles

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Anonymous wrote:She stuck by Ryan Reynolds when he was totally bombing and seems like a great mom. She has the wholesome girl next door thing going on with some serious style.

I would be shocked if they ever divorced but I also said that about Pratt/Ferris

You mean the wholesome girl-next-door-who-banged-everyone-in-Hollywood, surely. Before she married and cleaned up that reputation, she was well-known for getting around.

She banged Ben Affleck while filming "The Town" and she and Ryan Reynolds started flirting while he was still married to Scarlet Johansson. She's really annoying as an actor - her stupid mumble-talk and vacant expressions are really grating.

+1. But now she’s some clutch the pearls babe in the woods on set. Give me a break. Who is buying this nonsense?

It’s hard to even keep track of the details / or maybe I don’t care enough to learn the gory details. I just am not buying that Blake is some victim though/ sorry PR bots, try harder.

She is a victim based on what the ahole did to her on set (and the entire cast and author clearly also were bothered by him) followed by the coordinated attack plan against her afterwards with texts about "burying her" if she spoke out about his sleaziness. You don't have to like Blake to see he is the biggest @ss in this situation

Seems like she’s doing the same thing- no? Lots of smearing of him right now with all the paid articles

I'd say he started it when he was a sleazebag on set then tried to prevent her from talking about it or use a campaign - complete with ironically, intentionally trying to lean in to #metoo, to discredit her.

That the entire cast AND author were not supporting him lends credit to her story.

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Anonymous wrote:She stuck by Ryan Reynolds when he was totally bombing and seems like a great mom. She has the wholesome girl next door thing going on with some serious style.

I would be shocked if they ever divorced but I also said that about Pratt/Ferris

You mean the wholesome girl-next-door-who-banged-everyone-in-Hollywood, surely. Before she married and cleaned up that reputation, she was well-known for getting around.

She banged Ben Affleck while filming "The Town" and she and Ryan Reynolds started flirting while he was still married to Scarlet Johansson. She's really annoying as an actor - her stupid mumble-talk and vacant expressions are really grating.

+1. But now she’s some clutch the pearls babe in the woods on set. Give me a break. Who is buying this nonsense?

It’s hard to even keep track of the details / or maybe I don’t care enough to learn the gory details. I just am not buying that Blake is some victim though/ sorry PR bots, try harder.

Why is this troll desperately trying to stifle this discussion? Your trolling is obvious.

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Anonymous wrote:But even then I think one of the biggest villains in this story is Melissa Nathan, his crisis management firm owner who also led the charge for Johnny Depp who is quite disgusting based on what came out in his trial.

Can we canel Ms. Nathan?

Yes. She even was surprised herself how sad it was that women could be riled up so easily to hate other women. And we see it playing out here. She knew exactly what she was doing.

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Anonymous wrote:People who don't understand the Blake dislike crack me up. This is a woman who got married on a plantation. That's like getting married at Auschwitz. Maybe she was sexually harassed, if it happened I hope it comes out in court and the guy faces consequences. But to me this is a woman who has shown time and again that she's a self involved ahole who is incapable of accountability.

This is incredibly offensive, PP.

People on the West Coast don’t get Civil War/Southern Culture. I grew up out West and none of this history was part of my world until I moved to the East Coast.

It’s not culture. It’s history. She chose to marry on a plantation that beat people and kept people enslaved against their will.

Ignorance is not an excuse.

Obviously controversial to say now but this was a semi normal thing to do 12 years ago. Not excusing it, but as a regular Joe Schmo, I went to weddings at the same location around the same time period and earlier. I don’t think you understand how much online communications have normalized thoughts and perceptions - and to a GOOD degree. Because I agree, getting married at a plantation is not ok. Back in 2010/2012, there was really only Facebook and Twitter and widespread acceptance of that idea hadn’t really materialized. Cultural mores change over time.

No, this only applies if you are willfully blind. Even the good old days of 2010, plenty of people knew you shouldn’t glorify getting married on a plantation.

I do think times were different in the late 90s and early 2000s. information wasn’t as widespread and things that we do not accept today were more normalized.

I’m black and in the south a lot of properties were named Plantation, whether it was historically a former plantation or whether the name just represented grandeur. The wedding venues that were the most coveted were large estates named Plantations. I am black and was married in a church but had my reception 20 min away at a country club that had plantation in the name.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m on Blake’s side, but this whole mess confuses me.

Blake and Ryan had a ridiculous amount of power on this film. She was the big star as well as an executive producer. She and Ryan hired the Deadpool editor to do the final cut, which basically means that they have control of the film.

She was responsible for getting the Taylor Swift song in the movie, and she did all the costumes using her own clothes and her best friends clothes.

Ryan even wrote a scene for the film that colleen Hoover didn’t even know about. Sony also had a lot of power here as main financiers and it’s odd that they have stayed out of the fray.

So it is a good reminder that sexism is still strong in Hollywood. And everyone can be subjected to creeps. But it does seem like the public wants a very black or white story. I think there is probably a lot of nuance here. There are missing pieces about how Ryan and Blake were able to get so many of their demands met, yet, weren’t able to get these creepy producers reprimanded or face consequences until now.

It also seems weird that intimacy coordinators were only brought in after problem surfaced. It’s my understanding due to liability like this that intimacy coordinators are now standards on big productions. Jennifer Aniston waived the intimacy coordinator away for The Morning Show because she and John Hamm have a great relationship she’s old school and didn’t want one, but They are there to avoid this kind of liability and it’s confusing to me why on a big production like this, especially dealing with domestic violence, it was an after thought? And if there were problems with the start between Justin and Blake, one was not brought on as soon as they were going to be any intimate scenes. Seems like there’s a missing piece there too.

And why Sony has been completely staying out of this I don’t know, I just feel like there is more to the story, but I definitely feel like blake did not deserve this take down or to be sexually harassed obviously.

I feel similarly conflicted and confused.

What she's alleging seems unquestionably wrong on Baldoni's part. That's harassment and hostile workplace, especially when all taken together.

The PR stuff is different. If he did it to smear her because he knew he'd done this stuff on set and wanted to discredit her in advance, gross. If the situation was more nuanced, I think it's fair game.

Because it doesn't sound like his team made anything up. They used old clips and accurate details about Blake. She... did those things. It's crazy that someone from her own film was using them to get her bad press as the movie was released, but it's not like they lied.

And yes, that brings me to her allegations-- I am confused about the details because she was in a more powerful position than Baldoni on the set, so I don't get how it was handled. I agree we must be missing some facts and context. And I think it's likely that context will make Blake look less innocent, because if it was bad for Baldoni, they would have included it in their complaint.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m on Blake’s side, but this whole mess confuses me.

Blake and Ryan had a ridiculous amount of power on this film. She was the big star as well as an executive producer. She and Ryan hired the Deadpool editor to do the final cut, which basically means that they have control of the film.

She was responsible for getting the Taylor Swift song in the movie, and she did all the costumes using her own clothes and her best friends clothes.

Ryan even wrote a scene for the film that colleen Hoover didn’t even know about. Sony also had a lot of power here as main financiers and it’s odd that they have stayed out of the fray.

So it is a good reminder that sexism is still strong in Hollywood. And everyone can be subjected to creeps. But it does seem like the public wants a very black or white story. I think there is probably a lot of nuance here. There are missing pieces about how Ryan and Blake were able to get so many of their demands met, yet, weren’t able to get these creepy producers reprimanded or face consequences until now.

It also seems weird that intimacy coordinators were only brought in after problem surfaced. It’s my understanding due to liability like this that intimacy coordinators are now standards on big productions. Jennifer Aniston waived the intimacy coordinator away for The Morning Show because she and John Hamm have a great relationship she’s old school and didn’t want one, but They are there to avoid this kind of liability and it’s confusing to me why on a big production like this, especially dealing with domestic violence, it was an after thought? And if there were problems with the start between Justin and Blake, one was not brought on as soon as they were going to be any intimate scenes. Seems like there’s a missing piece there too.

And why Sony has been completely staying out of this I don’t know, I just feel like there is more to the story, but I definitely feel like blake did not deserve this take down or to be sexually harassed obviously.

I feel similarly conflicted and confused.

What she's alleging seems unquestionably wrong on Baldoni's part. That's harassment and hostile workplace, especially when all taken together.

The PR stuff is different. If he did it to smear her because he knew he'd done this stuff on set and wanted to discredit her in advance, gross. If the situation was more nuanced, I think it's fair game.

Because it doesn't sound like his team made anything up. They used old clips and accurate details about Blake. She... did those things. It's crazy that someone from her own film was using them to get her bad press as the movie was released, but it's not like they lied.

And yes, that brings me to her allegations-- I am confused about the details because she was in a more powerful position than Baldoni on the set, so I don't get how it was handled. I agree we must be missing some facts and context. And I think it's likely that context will make Blake look less innocent, because if it was bad for Baldoni, they would have included it in their complaint.

If it were more nuanced, it wouldn't be the entire cast and book author also shunning him. He clearly p*ssed a lot of people off.

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Anonymous wrote:People who don't understand the Blake dislike crack me up. This is a woman who got married on a plantation. That's like getting married at Auschwitz. Maybe she was sexually harassed, if it happened I hope it comes out in court and the guy faces consequences. But to me this is a woman who has shown time and again that she's a self involved ahole who is incapable of accountability.

This is incredibly offensive, PP.

People on the West Coast don’t get Civil War/Southern Culture. I grew up out West and none of this history was part of my world until I moved to the East Coast.

It’s not culture. It’s history. She chose to marry on a plantation that beat people and kept people enslaved against their will.

Ignorance is not an excuse.

Obviously controversial to say now but this was a semi normal thing to do 12 years ago. Not excusing it, but as a regular Joe Schmo, I went to weddings at the same location around the same time period and earlier. I don’t think you understand how much online communications have normalized thoughts and perceptions - and to a GOOD degree. Because I agree, getting married at a plantation is not ok. Back in 2010/2012, there was really only Facebook and Twitter and widespread acceptance of that idea hadn’t really materialized. Cultural mores change over time.

No, this only applies if you are willfully blind. Even the good old days of 2010, plenty of people knew you shouldn’t glorify getting married on a plantation.

I do think times were different in the late 90s and early 2000s. information wasn’t as widespread and things that we do not accept today were more normalized.

I’m black and in the south a lot of properties were named Plantation, whether it was historically a former plantation or whether the name just represented grandeur. The wedding venues that were the most coveted were large estates named Plantations. I am black and was married in a church but had my reception 20 min away at a country club that had plantation in the name.

I agree with this and I don't even like Blake and Ryan. It might seem crazy now but it was super normalized at the time because so many large wedding venues in the South have at least some ties to slavery.

I got married in Maryland (which yes was a slavery state) and I'd bet at least half, maybe more, of the venues we looked at were properties that once had slaves. They aren't called plantation but that's what many of them were, or even just country houses that had slaves. We wound up getting married in a park without that history but I could easily have seen it go the other way because we wanted an outdoor wedding in a picturesque place and so many of those are ante-bellum. And I don't think we would have asked ourselves if that was wrong.