Missing college student in the Dominican Republic from Ashburn

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He killed her or she drowned. His changing stories is why he has been named a POI.
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Anonymous wrote:Teach your kids not to go to a third world county country for spring break and get wasted go swimming.



The problem is that's not really teachable. You can do you best to instruct a kid about a variety of risks but college students are naive, inexperienced, and impulsive. They rarely know how much alcohol they can handle and can make terrible decisions when under the influence and cognitively impaired. No matter what they've been told.


The other four girls who also traveled on this trip were found "safe", right?



Yes. They weren't crushing on a boy and swimming in the ocean in the dark with him.Fortunately for them. It was one different decision that likely proved fatal, but they were all behaving irresponsibly in terms of excessive alcohol.


How do YOU know that she was?


She was videotaped walking with his arm around her and her clothes were found on the beach chaise. Depending on the clothing found, she was either nude or in her bikini. Why do you suppose that might be, Sherlock?


Unlike you, don't make assumptions. Is alcohol the only reason to make her walk with his arm around her? The report said her sarong was on chair, did it say also her bikini. How do you know she left her sarong there to go in water? And with HIM? Was her sarong placed on a chair by someone else?


There is also video footage at the hotel of him sleeping alone on the beach. You don’t just get to make up theories that defy logic because it feels better to make another person culpable for the tragic consequence of the woman’s bad decision .


Where did it say in this particular chain above that anyone is making "up theories that defy logic because it feels better to make another person culpable for the [we don't know yet] tragic consequence of the woman's [also don't know] bad decision." Do YOU know all that went on that night, week etc.?




Video of him sleeping on the beach is false. Don’t know where he got that from.
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Anonymous wrote:Teach your kids not to go to a third world county country for spring break and get wasted go swimming.



The problem is that's not really teachable. You can do you best to instruct a kid about a variety of risks but college students are naive, inexperienced, and impulsive. They rarely know how much alcohol they can handle and can make terrible decisions when under the influence and cognitively impaired. No matter what they've been told.


The other four girls who also traveled on this trip were found "safe", right?



Yes. They weren't crushing on a boy and swimming in the ocean in the dark with him.Fortunately for them. It was one different decision that likely proved fatal, but they were all behaving irresponsibly in terms of excessive alcohol.


How do YOU know that she was?


She was videotaped walking with his arm around her and her clothes were found on the beach chaise. Depending on the clothing found, she was either nude or in her bikini. Why do you suppose that might be, Sherlock?


Unlike you, don't make assumptions. Is alcohol the only reason to make her walk with his arm around her? The report said her sarong was on chair, did it say also her bikini. How do you know she left her sarong there to go in water? And with HIM? Was her sarong placed on a chair by someone else?


NP. Are you some weird family friend or something? No one needs to state the obvious to you. Alcohol might have been the reason she put her arm around him. Perhaps she wouldn’t have otherwise. She’s an adult that chose to drink excessively. If she made choices she would not have made, that’s her responsibility. Not man she was with.


How do you know she did? Not everyone is saying it was that man who was responsible. That's why questions about others who may have been there are being asked.


She was up until 3am drinking in the lobby bar. She was swaying and couldn’t stay steady walking to the beach. It’s basic logic that she had. When drinking excessively. It’s completely obvious that she was.


Wasn't every young women in that group drinking at some time that night, either or at each of the places they visited before the time at the beach (disco, hotel lobby)? Were the other women also swaying and they also couldn't stay steady walking to beach (haven't watched any of the videos)? How do you know it was excessive was the original question?


I think PP explained very well why it appeared there had been excessive drinking. You ask weird questions that are far less insightful than you suppose.


No answers to questions above, huh? Because you or if it is PP also don't know like the rest of us. PP assumed she was excessively drinking which perhaps is obvious to somone who watched a video, or it isn't. How do you know it wasn't any other factor(s)?
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Anonymous wrote:Teach your kids not to go to a third world county country for spring break and get wasted go swimming.



The problem is that's not really teachable. You can do you best to instruct a kid about a variety of risks but college students are naive, inexperienced, and impulsive. They rarely know how much alcohol they can handle and can make terrible decisions when under the influence and cognitively impaired. No matter what they've been told.


The other four girls who also traveled on this trip were found "safe", right?



Yes. They weren't crushing on a boy and swimming in the ocean in the dark with him.Fortunately for them. It was one different decision that likely proved fatal, but they were all behaving irresponsibly in terms of excessive alcohol.


How do YOU know that she was?


She was videotaped walking with his arm around her and her clothes were found on the beach chaise. Depending on the clothing found, she was either nude or in her bikini. Why do you suppose that might be, Sherlock?


Unlike you, don't make assumptions. Is alcohol the only reason to make her walk with his arm around her? The report said her sarong was on chair, did it say also her bikini. How do you know she left her sarong there to go in water? And with HIM? Was her sarong placed on a chair by someone else?


There is also video footage at the hotel of him sleeping alone on the beach. You don’t just get to make up theories that defy logic because it feels better to make another person culpable for the tragic consequence of the woman’s bad decision .


Where did it say in this particular chain above that anyone is making "up theories that defy logic because it feels better to make another person culpable for the [we don't know yet] tragic consequence of the woman's [also don't know] bad decision." Do YOU know all that went on that night, week etc.?


Video of him sleeping on the beach is false. Don’t know where he got that from.


Issue with being "anonymous" replies.
Some posters think they are responding to same previous poster.
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Anonymous wrote:Teach your kids not to go to a third world county country for spring break and get wasted go swimming.



The problem is that's not really teachable. You can do you best to instruct a kid about a variety of risks but college students are naive, inexperienced, and impulsive. They rarely know how much alcohol they can handle and can make terrible decisions when under the influence and cognitively impaired. No matter what they've been told.


The other four girls who also traveled on this trip were found "safe", right?



Yes. They weren't crushing on a boy and swimming in the ocean in the dark with him.Fortunately for them. It was one different decision that likely proved fatal, but they were all behaving irresponsibly in terms of excessive alcohol.


How do YOU know that she was?


She was videotaped walking with his arm around her and her clothes were found on the beach chaise. Depending on the clothing found, she was either nude or in her bikini. Why do you suppose that might be, Sherlock?


Unlike you, don't make assumptions. Is alcohol the only reason to make her walk with his arm around her? The report said her sarong was on chair, did it say also her bikini. How do you know she left her sarong there to go in water? And with HIM? Was her sarong placed on a chair by someone else?


NP. Are you some weird family friend or something? No one needs to state the obvious to you. Alcohol might have been the reason she put her arm around him. Perhaps she wouldn’t have otherwise. She’s an adult that chose to drink excessively. If she made choices she would not have made, that’s her responsibility. Not man she was with.


How do you know she did? Not everyone is saying it was that man who was responsible. That's why questions about others who may have been there are being asked.


She was up until 3am drinking in the lobby bar. She was swaying and couldn’t stay steady walking to the beach. It’s basic logic that she had. When drinking excessively. It’s completely obvious that she was.


Wasn't every young women in that group drinking at some time that night, either or at each of the places they visited before the time at the beach (disco, hotel lobby)? Were the other women also swaying and they also couldn't stay steady walking to beach (haven't watched any of the videos)? How do you know it was excessive was the original question?


I think PP explained very well why it appeared there had been excessive drinking. You ask weird questions that are far less insightful than you suppose.


No answers to questions above, huh? Because you or if it is PP also don't know like the rest of us. PP assumed she was excessively drinking which perhaps is obvious to somone who watched a video, or it isn't. How do you know it wasn't any other factor(s)?


NP. Are you mentally challenged? It’s either that or you’re a troll. There is a video of her drunk walking to the beach after spending hours drinking in the hotel bar. These are facts.
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Anonymous wrote:I thought it didn’t look like typical arm around a girl stuff-it was either like he was holding her up bc she was unsteady or like he was kind of clinging.

at one point she did try to separate from her and he quickly got back in firm arm stance. Again, could be because she was wobbly but I equally could have been overly handsy and bunch she was trying to tamp down in a friendly way.


I also thought she tried to pull away.

Hopefully his history is being looked into.

and nothing kept her from walking back or away
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Anonymous wrote:Teach your kids not to go to a third world county country for spring break and get wasted go swimming.



The problem is that's not really teachable. You can do you best to instruct a kid about a variety of risks but college students are naive, inexperienced, and impulsive. They rarely know how much alcohol they can handle and can make terrible decisions when under the influence and cognitively impaired. No matter what they've been told.


The other four girls who also traveled on this trip were found "safe", right?



Yes. They weren't crushing on a boy and swimming in the ocean in the dark with him.Fortunately for them. It was one different decision that likely proved fatal, but they were all behaving irresponsibly in terms of excessive alcohol.


How do YOU know that she was?


She was videotaped walking with his arm around her and her clothes were found on the beach chaise. Depending on the clothing found, she was either nude or in her bikini. Why do you suppose that might be, Sherlock?


Unlike you, don't make assumptions. Is alcohol the only reason to make her walk with his arm around her? The report said her sarong was on chair, did it say also her bikini. How do you know she left her sarong there to go in water? And with HIM? Was her sarong placed on a chair by someone else?


There is also video footage at the hotel of him sleeping alone on the beach. You don’t just get to make up theories that defy logic because it feels better to make another person culpable for the tragic consequence of the woman’s bad decision .


Ok. And so..?


Link? I thought only the path has cameras.


Right! And didn't they say there was a power outage so there isn't footage? Which one is it? Conflicting stories as usual with cases.
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Anonymous wrote:He killed her or she drowned. His changing stories is why he has been named a POI.

apparently the presumption of innocence has also been eliminated
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Anonymous wrote:Teach your kids not to go to a third world county country for spring break and get wasted go swimming.



The problem is that's not really teachable. You can do you best to instruct a kid about a variety of risks but college students are naive, inexperienced, and impulsive. They rarely know how much alcohol they can handle and can make terrible decisions when under the influence and cognitively impaired. No matter what they've been told.


The other four girls who also traveled on this trip were found "safe", right?



Yes. They weren't crushing on a boy and swimming in the ocean in the dark with him.Fortunately for them. It was one different decision that likely proved fatal, but they were all behaving irresponsibly in terms of excessive alcohol.


How do YOU know that she was?


She was videotaped walking with his arm around her and her clothes were found on the beach chaise. Depending on the clothing found, she was either nude or in her bikini. Why do you suppose that might be, Sherlock?


Unlike you, don't make assumptions. Is alcohol the only reason to make her walk with his arm around her? The report said her sarong was on chair, did it say also her bikini. How do you know she left her sarong there to go in water? And with HIM? Was her sarong placed on a chair by someone else?


NP. Are you some weird family friend or something? No one needs to state the obvious to you. Alcohol might have been the reason she put her arm around him. Perhaps she wouldn’t have otherwise. She’s an adult that chose to drink excessively. If she made choices she would not have made, that’s her responsibility. Not man she was with.


How do you know she did? Not everyone is saying it was that man who was responsible. That's why questions about others who may have been there are being asked.


She was up until 3am drinking in the lobby bar. She was swaying and couldn’t stay steady walking to the beach. It’s basic logic that she had. When drinking excessively. It’s completely obvious that she was.


Wasn't every young women in that group drinking at some time that night, either or at each of the places they visited before the time at the beach (disco, hotel lobby)? Were the other women also swaying and they also couldn't stay steady walking to beach (haven't watched any of the videos)? How do you know it was excessive was the original question?


I think PP explained very well why it appeared there had been excessive drinking. You ask weird questions that are far less insightful than you suppose.


No answers to questions above, huh? Because you or if it is PP also don't know like the rest of us. PP assumed she was excessively drinking which perhaps is obvious to somone who watched a video, or it isn't. How do you know it wasn't any other factor(s)?


NP. Are you mentally challenged? It’s either that or you’re a troll. There is a video of her drunk walking to the beach after spending hours drinking in the hotel bar. These are facts.


When frustrated that YOU don't know, you resort (no pun intended) to calling people names? So you know that she was "drunk" because you were there? Got it.
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Anonymous wrote:Teach your kids not to go to a third world county country for spring break and get wasted go swimming.



The problem is that's not really teachable. You can do you best to instruct a kid about a variety of risks but college students are naive, inexperienced, and impulsive. They rarely know how much alcohol they can handle and can make terrible decisions when under the influence and cognitively impaired. No matter what they've been told.


The other four girls who also traveled on this trip were found "safe", right?



Yes. They weren't crushing on a boy and swimming in the ocean in the dark with him.Fortunately for them. It was one different decision that likely proved fatal, but they were all behaving irresponsibly in terms of excessive alcohol.


How do YOU know that she was?


She was videotaped walking with his arm around her and her clothes were found on the beach chaise. Depending on the clothing found, she was either nude or in her bikini. Why do you suppose that might be, Sherlock?


Unlike you, don't make assumptions. Is alcohol the only reason to make her walk with his arm around her? The report said her sarong was on chair, did it say also her bikini. How do you know she left her sarong there to go in water? And with HIM? Was her sarong placed on a chair by someone else?


NP. Are you some weird family friend or something? No one needs to state the obvious to you. Alcohol might have been the reason she put her arm around him. Perhaps she wouldn’t have otherwise. She’s an adult that chose to drink excessively. If she made choices she would not have made, that’s her responsibility. Not man she was with.


How do you know she did? Not everyone is saying it was that man who was responsible. That's why questions about others who may have been there are being asked.


She was up until 3am drinking in the lobby bar. She was swaying and couldn’t stay steady walking to the beach. It’s basic logic that she had. When drinking excessively. It’s completely obvious that she was.


Wasn't every young women in that group drinking at some time that night, either or at each of the places they visited before the time at the beach (disco, hotel lobby)? Were the other women also swaying and they also couldn't stay steady walking to beach (haven't watched any of the videos)? How do you know it was excessive was the original question?


I think PP explained very well why it appeared there had been excessive drinking. You ask weird questions that are far less insightful than you suppose.


No answers to questions above, huh? Because you or if it is PP also don't know like the rest of us. PP assumed she was excessively drinking which perhaps is obvious to somone who watched a video, or it isn't. How do you know it wasn't any other factor(s)?


NP. Are you mentally challenged? It’s either that or you’re a troll. There is a video of her drunk walking to the beach after spending hours drinking in the hotel bar. These are facts.


When frustrated that YOU don't know, you resort (no pun intended) to calling people names? So you know that she was "drunk" because you were there? Got it.



It's clear from the video, strange poster.
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Anonymous wrote:He killed her or she drowned. His changing stories is why he has been named a POI.

apparently the presumption of innocence has also been eliminated


And same thinking among many of these posters who claim she had to have been "drunk"
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Anonymous wrote:I thought it didn’t look like typical arm around a girl stuff-it was either like he was holding her up bc she was unsteady or like he was kind of clinging.

at one point she did try to separate from her and he quickly got back in firm arm stance. Again, could be because she was wobbly but I equally could have been overly handsy and bunch she was trying to tamp down in a friendly way.


I also thought she tried to pull away.

Hopefully his history is being looked into.

and nothing kept her from walking back or away



They both just look unsteady to me. At one point she leans forward to chat with her friend. She chose to remain on the beach with him. What happened from that point, we don't know, but seems to have liked him. He is cooperating. There is video footage of him on the beach with investigators. Someone said her parents were there too, but I'm not sure about that.
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Anonymous wrote:He killed her or she drowned. His changing stories is why he has been named a POI.

apparently the presumption of innocence has also been eliminated


And same thinking among many of these posters who claim she had to have been "drunk"

it's not the same at all. one is the bedrock of American criminal law and justice. the other is drawing reasonable conclusions from available evidence and common sense
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Anonymous wrote:Teach your kids not to go to a third world county country for spring break and get wasted go swimming.



The problem is that's not really teachable. You can do you best to instruct a kid about a variety of risks but college students are naive, inexperienced, and impulsive. They rarely know how much alcohol they can handle and can make terrible decisions when under the influence and cognitively impaired. No matter what they've been told.


The other four girls who also traveled on this trip were found "safe", right?



Yes. They weren't crushing on a boy and swimming in the ocean in the dark with him.Fortunately for them. It was one different decision that likely proved fatal, but they were all behaving irresponsibly in terms of excessive alcohol.


How do YOU know that she was?


She was videotaped walking with his arm around her and her clothes were found on the beach chaise. Depending on the clothing found, she was either nude or in her bikini. Why do you suppose that might be, Sherlock?


Unlike you, don't make assumptions. Is alcohol the only reason to make her walk with his arm around her? The report said her sarong was on chair, did it say also her bikini. How do you know she left her sarong there to go in water? And with HIM? Was her sarong placed on a chair by someone else?


NP. Are you some weird family friend or something? No one needs to state the obvious to you. Alcohol might have been the reason she put her arm around him. Perhaps she wouldn’t have otherwise. She’s an adult that chose to drink excessively. If she made choices she would not have made, that’s her responsibility. Not man she was with.


How do you know she did? Not everyone is saying it was that man who was responsible. That's why questions about others who may have been there are being asked.


She was up until 3am drinking in the lobby bar. She was swaying and couldn’t stay steady walking to the beach. It’s basic logic that she had. When drinking excessively. It’s completely obvious that she was.


Wasn't every young women in that group drinking at some time that night, either or at each of the places they visited before the time at the beach (disco, hotel lobby)? Were the other women also swaying and they also couldn't stay steady walking to beach (haven't watched any of the videos)? How do you know it was excessive was the original question?


I think PP explained very well why it appeared there had been excessive drinking. You ask weird questions that are far less insightful than you suppose.


No answers to questions above, huh? Because you or if it is PP also don't know like the rest of us. PP assumed she was excessively drinking which perhaps is obvious to somone who watched a video, or it isn't. How do you know it wasn't any other factor(s)?


NP. Are you mentally challenged? It’s either that or you’re a troll. There is a video of her drunk walking to the beach after spending hours drinking in the hotel bar. These are facts.


When frustrated that YOU don't know, you resort (no pun intended) to calling people names? So you know that she was "drunk" because you were there? Got it.


Only other explanation is that she was drugged. Because the friends reached out to the police so late there likely couldn’t be a toxicology test done on them. There also appears to be zero evidence that they were drugged. Therefore, you have to go with the facts you do know. It is confirmed she was drinking in the bar for hours. Her friends didn’t seem concerned about this young man or any of the events from the night, otherwise they would have reached out earlier in the day. All of the evidence so far points to one scenario. You can’t just make things up and accuse someone of something without evidence.

You don’t want to admit there are some known facts here.
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I’m absolutely convinced the poster disputing where the young lady was drunk is family or a family friend that can’t accept some of the facts of that evening.
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