Magnet application result High School

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Anonymous wrote:My current 8th grader did not make the cut to Blair (not even wait listed). My second kid in 7th grade would apply later this year, for those who have been admitted, is possible to share MAP-M score? This post talks about 300+ scores and are there kids with lower scores that have made the cut? My kid is not in that league currently.

The median admitted score last year was around 275.

I remember seeing this somewhere last year too. It's not clear to me that they use the raw score even. Others have stated the test wasn't meant to be used that way. Further, this is just one criterion and although there are a handful of kids with remarkably high scores, there just aren't that many. Certainly not enough to fill the magnet program.

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Anonymous wrote:That's on the very high end based on what DC has said.
I believe some kids with 240 MAP might have gotten in but they have to be FARMS, ESOL, or have some kind of other service like a 504. There are kids with ADHD who may not test great and remember this is just one test, but they are wicked good at math.

Nope. Didn’t happen.

I really have no personal knowledge but the person who posted sounded like a nosy nelly who has actual information.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not sure how much things have changed in 2 years, but my DD who is Asian got into both global ecology and humanities (only 2 she applied for) with a MAP-M score of 260 and MAP-R score of 254... the whole thread here suggests if you get any less than 270 you are doomed! ... May be you all are talking about only SMACs program! My younger one is going to go through the process next year and her MAP scores are comparable to her sister's and she is also looking for global ecology and humanities programs... reading this thread seems to indicate she has no chance!
Another point for the selection committee when my eldest went through the process, was that if the kid was already in a magnet (she was in Clemente math sci) meant the kids already had an edge since they got into the program with a test and everything. And dont tell me the selection committee doesn't know the schools.... only magnet kids have computer science in their transcript and GT stamped on the Math and Sci courses they take... so they know...
However with my second one, they had lottery selection for middle school magnets. MY DD was in the lottery pool for both programs but her name wasn't picked and so were a bunch of her very smart friends, who all stayed back in their home middle schools... so with that I think there will be hyper focus on just the MAP scores and essays and I dont think they can use the 'Kids already in magnets are smart' argument anymore as magnets kids in this batch were really lottery picks and I know some really questionable selections who are currently struggling in their magnet schools!
Oh well...make the high schools also lottery already! its all just luck from this point on !

I'll be that jerk. Many of the people on this thread do not really think of those as real magnets. Sorry it's true. Blair SMAC is the main one that matters. My child is on the WL too with those scores for Poolesville but did not make the waitpool for any of the others.

Sorry to break your bubble. DC know boys from TPMS with 240/250 who made it to Blair SMAC. They seem to have taken the very top. Close to 300 or 300+ and for the rest it seems like a bit of a lottery.

I call BS. Not only did no kids from TPMS get in with scores that low but none of the TPMS magnet kids even have MAP-M scores in the 240s in 8th grade. My own TPMS kid reports that there were no surprises among the kids who got in. They were the strongest kids. I don’t know if your kid was bullshitting you or if you just made this up to stir shit.

Of course this is BS. But I'm guessing there are a few lottery 6th graders with scores like that. From high farm schools.

From any schools. But we’re not talking about sixth graders, these are 8th.

Yes, and for 8th graders that's utter nonsense. The only reason 6th grade lottery kids get in with those scores are because 1) it's a lottery 2) they are from a high-FARMs school The PP was just confused.

Your second point is incorrect. The bar for low FARMs schools is about 235.

But the point stands- no 8th graders are getting in to Blair with those scores.

They are too. Facts are facts. Not trashing the Blair program. It is exceptional and the magnet Co-Ordinator is a an absolutely phenomenal guy.

What’s your source for these “facts”?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's on the very high end based on what DC has said.
I believe some kids with 240 MAP might have gotten in but they have to be FARMS, ESOL, or have some kind of other service like a 504. There are kids with ADHD who may not test great and remember this is just one test, but they are wicked good at math.

Nope. Didn’t happen.

I really have no personal knowledge but the person who posted sounded like a nosy nelly who has actual information.

Nope. I have actual information and they are wrong.

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You have actual information of all the Blair admits this year? Are you a teacher?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's on the very high end based on what DC has said.
I believe some kids with 240 MAP might have gotten in but they have to be FARMS, ESOL, or have some kind of other service like a 504. There are kids with ADHD who may not test great and remember this is just one test, but they are wicked good at math.

Nope. Didn’t happen.

I really have no personal knowledge but the person who posted sounded like a nosy nelly who has actual information.

Nope. I have actual information and they are wrong.

LOL sure it's a government coverup like Roswell!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's on the very high end based on what DC has said.
I believe some kids with 240 MAP might have gotten in but they have to be FARMS, ESOL, or have some kind of other service like a 504. There are kids with ADHD who may not test great and remember this is just one test, but they are wicked good at math.

Nope. Didn’t happen.

I really have no personal knowledge but the person who posted sounded like a nosy nelly who has actual information.

Nope. I have actual information and they are wrong.

LOL sure it's a government coverup like Roswell!

Evidently, the tinfoil hat is cutting off the circulation to their brain.

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Anonymous wrote:My current 8th grader did not make the cut to Blair (not even wait listed). My second kid in 7th grade would apply later this year, for those who have been admitted, is possible to share MAP-M score? This post talks about 300+ scores and are there kids with lower scores that have made the cut? My kid is not in that league currently.

My admitted DC had MAP-M of 291. Would be interested in knowing the scores of other students, whether admitted or not.

300 m/260 r with strong ec

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Anonymous wrote:My current 8th grader did not make the cut to Blair (not even wait listed). My second kid in 7th grade would apply later this year, for those who have been admitted, is possible to share MAP-M score? This post talks about 300+ scores and are there kids with lower scores that have made the cut? My kid is not in that league currently.

My admitted DC had MAP-M of 291. Would be interested in knowing the scores of other students, whether admitted or not.

300 m/260 r with strong ec

I'm not seeing how you get 300 as a top score if your child hasn't taken upper level classes or they are taking the lower map test.

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What do you mean the lower map test? The map test everyone takes is map 6+.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My current 8th grader did not make the cut to Blair (not even wait listed). My second kid in 7th grade would apply later this year, for those who have been admitted, is possible to share MAP-M score? This post talks about 300+ scores and are there kids with lower scores that have made the cut? My kid is not in that league currently.

My admitted DC had MAP-M of 291. Would be interested in knowing the scores of other students, whether admitted or not.

300 m/260 r with strong ec

I'm not seeing how you get 300 as a top score if your child hasn't taken upper level classes or they are taking the lower map test.

What stops your child from learning ahead? I never stop your child from soccer practice or basketball drills. Why my child with a passion in math can’t study ahead by himself?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My current 8th grader did not make the cut to Blair (not even wait listed). My second kid in 7th grade would apply later this year, for those who have been admitted, is possible to share MAP-M score? This post talks about 300+ scores and are there kids with lower scores that have made the cut? My kid is not in that league currently.

The simple trick is to study ahead. This is just a test of whether the kid knows the material. Not of mathematical ability, mastery or even IQ. So for example if your kid does outside enrichment and stays ahead of what is being taught. Can get higher scores. Most of the 300+ kids do this. Anything above 268 or so is 99 percentile so shouldn’t matter but the test is being used for a purpose it is not meant for. Still better than nothing…but you won’t be able to get 300+ by mastering what is being taught. You have to absolutely study ahead.

Co-signed. Which is why cogat is a better test. Yes it is gameable too but not nearly as so.

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Anonymous wrote:My current 8th grader did not make the cut to Blair (not even wait listed). My second kid in 7th grade would apply later this year, for those who have been admitted, is possible to share MAP-M score? This post talks about 300+ scores and are there kids with lower scores that have made the cut? My kid is not in that league currently.

The simple trick is to study ahead. This is just a test of whether the kid knows the material. Not of mathematical ability, mastery or even IQ. So for example if your kid does outside enrichment and stays ahead of what is being taught. Can get higher scores. Most of the 300+ kids do this. Anything above 268 or so is 99 percentile so shouldn’t matter but the test is being used for a purpose it is not meant for. Still better than nothing…but you won’t be able to get 300+ by mastering what is being taught. You have to absolutely study ahead.

Co-signed. Which is why cogat is a better test. Yes it is gameable too but not nearly as so.

Not really. CogAT is much easier to game than mastering years of math.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My current 8th grader did not make the cut to Blair (not even wait listed). My second kid in 7th grade would apply later this year, for those who have been admitted, is possible to share MAP-M score? This post talks about 300+ scores and are there kids with lower scores that have made the cut? My kid is not in that league currently.

My admitted DC had MAP-M of 291. Would be interested in knowing the scores of other students, whether admitted or not.

300 m/260 r with strong ec

I'm not seeing how you get 300 as a top score if your child hasn't taken upper level classes or they are taking the lower map test.

I don't know about the PP's kid but I know one of mine knew how to factor quadratic or graph lines at 9. Some kids are into math and just pick it up. There are lots of free online resources like Khan academy for anyone who is interested. When DC was 11 they were scoring around 290. They weren't even in Algebra because we live in East county.

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Anonymous wrote:My current 8th grader did not make the cut to Blair (not even wait listed). My second kid in 7th grade would apply later this year, for those who have been admitted, is possible to share MAP-M score? This post talks about 300+ scores and are there kids with lower scores that have made the cut? My kid is not in that league currently.

The simple trick is to study ahead. This is just a test of whether the kid knows the material. Not of mathematical ability, mastery or even IQ. So for example if your kid does outside enrichment and stays ahead of what is being taught. Can get higher scores. Most of the 300+ kids do this. Anything above 268 or so is 99 percentile so shouldn’t matter but the test is being used for a purpose it is not meant for. Still better than nothing…but you won’t be able to get 300+ by mastering what is being taught. You have to absolutely study ahead.

Co-signed. Which is why cogat is a better test. Yes it is gameable too but not nearly as so.

Not really. CogAT is much easier to game than mastering years of math.

Getting a high MAP M score is not about mastery. It is only about having exposure to material. That’s the point.