ECNL moving to school year part 2

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Anonymous wrote:We have october and November kids on my sons team who will be in the higher grade than the age bracket.... Tuff spot as they wont make the new fist team with their grade. Seems like an unfair burden.

Why will they be with the higher grade? Is the school cut off date that late, or are they pretty advanced in school?

As you like to say, it's called reality. There is no perfect system with one grade unless you make it full GY.

Completely untrue...

SY with Aug birthdays playing up with their grade is almost like GY. The only players that arent allowed to roster are the very few school districts that start in July and the kids parents hold back in school so they're the biggest on sports teams. These kids cant play on the correct grade in school team. Everyone else can.

You're in denial. It's probably because the NJ posters are also challenging you, including people saying how those clubs who will "try" to align by grade really aren't.

Wow, what are you talking about?

There's a new thread over on Talking Soccer NJ ... Aug guy/or someone with strikingly similar views is getting similar pushback there. At one point, he/she even references our lengthy thread here and how there's a whole grand cabal trying to convince Aug parents that playing on age is OK.

I just looked at New Jersey TS and what you're describing is not true. In fact there appears to be several people saying your posts are ridiculous. Which makes sense considering cutoff dates are late Sept and even into Nov in the NE. Meaning the amount of "August" players they have to deal with would be 2x or even 3x more than around here. It would be impossible to try and manage them all one by one you'd have to relay a single statement that everyone would abide by.

Yeah, and what they're saying it's all going to be by age, with limited exceptions. When Aug guy starts rattling off the clubs who say they'll try to align by grade, poster at one club said they're not really doing it. It's more like all talk. For example:

"Reality is whatever makes the best teams is what the clubs will do.

Match Fit in one breath says they will align or try to align by grade but a little further down the page and around the corner it says it will be discussed by coach and directors."

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Anonymous wrote:We have october and November kids on my sons team who will be in the higher grade than the age bracket.... Tuff spot as they wont make the new fist team with their grade. Seems like an unfair burden.

Why will they be with the higher grade? Is the school cut off date that late, or are they pretty advanced in school?

As you like to say, it's called reality. There is no perfect system with one grade unless you make it full GY.

Completely untrue...

SY with Aug birthdays playing up with their grade is almost like GY. The only players that arent allowed to roster are the very few school districts that start in July and the kids parents hold back in school so they're the biggest on sports teams. These kids cant play on the correct grade in school team. Everyone else can.

I like it.

You basically get GY but without regrades.

It's all fine if people want to do that and are happy with the team they get on. Lots of other people are willing to play on age, regardless of grade, if they can make an A team. And that's the point that 95% of posters agree -- that people can and should do what's best for them and their kid rather than trying to force things in any direction.

This is what many clubs are doing. They don't focus on grade and play on age but if you want to play up with friends on a secondary team we can work with you. Nothing to complain about really.

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Anonymous wrote:We have october and November kids on my sons team who will be in the higher grade than the age bracket.... Tuff spot as they wont make the new fist team with their grade. Seems like an unfair burden.

Why will they be with the higher grade? Is the school cut off date that late, or are they pretty advanced in school?

As you like to say, it's called reality. There is no perfect system with one grade unless you make it full GY.

Completely untrue...

SY with Aug birthdays playing up with their grade is almost like GY. The only players that arent allowed to roster are the very few school districts that start in July and the kids parents hold back in school so they're the biggest on sports teams. These kids cant play on the correct grade in school team. Everyone else can.

You're in denial. It's probably because the NJ posters are also challenging you, including people saying how those clubs who will "try" to align by grade really aren't.

Wow, what are you talking about?

There's a new thread over on Talking Soccer NJ ... Aug guy/or someone with strikingly similar views is getting similar pushback there. At one point, he/she even references our lengthy thread here and how there's a whole grand cabal trying to convince Aug parents that playing on age is OK.

Funny, the grand cabal is a one man band trying to make his Sept girl the oldest in the age group for quite sometime. It is surprising that he hasn't found anyone to agree with him yet. Maybe he will in a few years or so.

Looks like multiple people at New Jersty TS saying that clubs will group by grade.

It also seems like multiple New Jersey clubs have stated on their websites and via video that they plan to group Aug birthdays by grade.

You seem to be the only one not accepting reality.

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Anonymous wrote:We have october and November kids on my sons team who will be in the higher grade than the age bracket.... Tuff spot as they wont make the new fist team with their grade. Seems like an unfair burden.

Why will they be with the higher grade? Is the school cut off date that late, or are they pretty advanced in school?

As you like to say, it's called reality. There is no perfect system with one grade unless you make it full GY.

Completely untrue...

SY with Aug birthdays playing up with their grade is almost like GY. The only players that arent allowed to roster are the very few school districts that start in July and the kids parents hold back in school so they're the biggest on sports teams. These kids cant play on the correct grade in school team. Everyone else can.

I like it.

You basically get GY but without regrades.

Won't work because clubs can't enforce grades without documents which don't exist and they don't want to handicap themselves against other teams by having younger players.

You dont need to enforce anything.

Clubs dont want 9th grade players on 8th grade teams because they'll be gone for have the season playing High School soccer.

Parents want Aug birthdays playing on the correct grade in school team for college recruiting purposes.

The "problem" solves itself when Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team.

Or, there are only 1-2 players a team and not a big deal whether they play HS or not (and many on top teams won't because HS often isn't worth it for top tier players until AFTER they are recruited).

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Anonymous wrote:We have october and November kids on my sons team who will be in the higher grade than the age bracket.... Tuff spot as they wont make the new fist team with their grade. Seems like an unfair burden.

Why will they be with the higher grade? Is the school cut off date that late, or are they pretty advanced in school?

As you like to say, it's called reality. There is no perfect system with one grade unless you make it full GY.

Completely untrue...

SY with Aug birthdays playing up with their grade is almost like GY. The only players that arent allowed to roster are the very few school districts that start in July and the kids parents hold back in school so they're the biggest on sports teams. These kids cant play on the correct grade in school team. Everyone else can.

You're in denial. It's probably because the NJ posters are also challenging you, including people saying how those clubs who will "try" to align by grade really aren't.

Wow, what are you talking about?

There's a new thread over on Talking Soccer NJ ... Aug guy/or someone with strikingly similar views is getting similar pushback there. At one point, he/she even references our lengthy thread here and how there's a whole grand cabal trying to convince Aug parents that playing on age is OK.

Funny, the grand cabal is a one man band trying to make his Sept girl the oldest in the age group for quite sometime. It is surprising that he hasn't found anyone to agree with him yet. Maybe he will in a few years or so.

Looks like multiple people at New Jersty TS saying that clubs will group by grade.

It also seems like multiple New Jersey clubs have stated on their websites and via video that they plan to group Aug birthdays by grade.

You seem to be the only one not accepting reality.

Sigh. People should check out "Age change questions" especially the most recent 2 pages. It will seem very familiar.

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Anonymous wrote:We have october and November kids on my sons team who will be in the higher grade than the age bracket.... Tuff spot as they wont make the new fist team with their grade. Seems like an unfair burden.

Why will they be with the higher grade? Is the school cut off date that late, or are they pretty advanced in school?

As you like to say, it's called reality. There is no perfect system with one grade unless you make it full GY.

Completely untrue...

SY with Aug birthdays playing up with their grade is almost like GY. The only players that arent allowed to roster are the very few school districts that start in July and the kids parents hold back in school so they're the biggest on sports teams. These kids cant play on the correct grade in school team. Everyone else can.

You're in denial. It's probably because the NJ posters are also challenging you, including people saying how those clubs who will "try" to align by grade really aren't.

Wow, what are you talking about?

There's a new thread over on Talking Soccer NJ ... Aug guy/or someone with strikingly similar views is getting similar pushback there. At one point, he/she even references our lengthy thread here and how there's a whole grand cabal trying to convince Aug parents that playing on age is OK.

I just looked at New Jersey TS and what you're describing is not true. In fact there appears to be several people saying your posts are ridiculous. Which makes sense considering cutoff dates are late Sept and even into Nov in the NE. Meaning the amount of "August" players they have to deal with would be 2x or even 3x more than around here. It would be impossible to try and manage them all one by one you'd have to relay a single statement that everyone would abide by.

Yeah, and what they're saying it's all going to be by age, with limited exceptions. When Aug guy starts rattling off the clubs who say they'll try to align by grade, poster at one club said they're not really doing it. It's more like all talk. For example:

"Reality is whatever makes the best teams is what the clubs will do.

Match Fit in one breath says they will align or try to align by grade but a little further down the page and around the corner it says it will be discussed by coach and directors."

Directly from NJ TS...

"Literally MF, PSA, PF, Copa all indicated either on website or publicly on video that they plan to group August September birthdays on their grade in school team."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We have october and November kids on my sons team who will be in the higher grade than the age bracket.... Tuff spot as they wont make the new fist team with their grade. Seems like an unfair burden.

Why will they be with the higher grade? Is the school cut off date that late, or are they pretty advanced in school?

As you like to say, it's called reality. There is no perfect system with one grade unless you make it full GY.

Completely untrue...

SY with Aug birthdays playing up with their grade is almost like GY. The only players that arent allowed to roster are the very few school districts that start in July and the kids parents hold back in school so they're the biggest on sports teams. These kids cant play on the correct grade in school team. Everyone else can.

I like it.

You basically get GY but without regrades.

Won't work because clubs can't enforce grades without documents which don't exist and they don't want to handicap themselves against other teams by having younger players.

You dont need to enforce anything.

Clubs dont want 9th grade players on 8th grade teams because they'll be gone for have the season playing High School soccer.

Parents want Aug birthdays playing on the correct grade in school team for college recruiting purposes.

The "problem" solves itself when Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team.

It's only your problem. System working swimmingly for August births. They are the oldest now and they now know because of your efforts that multiple clubs reported that college coaches don't care what age group they are in. Just be the best player you can be and contact them, like everyone else has too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We have october and November kids on my sons team who will be in the higher grade than the age bracket.... Tuff spot as they wont make the new fist team with their grade. Seems like an unfair burden.

Why will they be with the higher grade? Is the school cut off date that late, or are they pretty advanced in school?

As you like to say, it's called reality. There is no perfect system with one grade unless you make it full GY.

Completely untrue...

SY with Aug birthdays playing up with their grade is almost like GY. The only players that arent allowed to roster are the very few school districts that start in July and the kids parents hold back in school so they're the biggest on sports teams. These kids cant play on the correct grade in school team. Everyone else can.

I like it.

You basically get GY but without regrades.

Won't work because clubs can't enforce grades without documents which don't exist and they don't want to handicap themselves against other teams by having younger players.

You dont need to enforce anything.

Clubs dont want 9th grade players on 8th grade teams because they'll be gone for have the season playing High School soccer.

Parents want Aug birthdays playing on the correct grade in school team for college recruiting purposes.

The "problem" solves itself when Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team.

Or, there are only 1-2 players a team and not a big deal whether they play HS or not (and many on top teams won't because HS often isn't worth it for top tier players until AFTER they are recruited).

So now your plan is to take High School soccer away from Freshman so Aug birthdays can play down?

Get real

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We have october and November kids on my sons team who will be in the higher grade than the age bracket.... Tuff spot as they wont make the new fist team with their grade. Seems like an unfair burden.

Why will they be with the higher grade? Is the school cut off date that late, or are they pretty advanced in school?

As you like to say, it's called reality. There is no perfect system with one grade unless you make it full GY.

Completely untrue...

SY with Aug birthdays playing up with their grade is almost like GY. The only players that arent allowed to roster are the very few school districts that start in July and the kids parents hold back in school so they're the biggest on sports teams. These kids cant play on the correct grade in school team. Everyone else can.

You're in denial. It's probably because the NJ posters are also challenging you, including people saying how those clubs who will "try" to align by grade really aren't.

Wow, what are you talking about?

There's a new thread over on Talking Soccer NJ ... Aug guy/or someone with strikingly similar views is getting similar pushback there. At one point, he/she even references our lengthy thread here and how there's a whole grand cabal trying to convince Aug parents that playing on age is OK.

I just looked at New Jersey TS and what you're describing is not true. In fact there appears to be several people saying your posts are ridiculous. Which makes sense considering cutoff dates are late Sept and even into Nov in the NE. Meaning the amount of "August" players they have to deal with would be 2x or even 3x more than around here. It would be impossible to try and manage them all one by one you'd have to relay a single statement that everyone would abide by.

Yeah, and what they're saying it's all going to be by age, with limited exceptions. When Aug guy starts rattling off the clubs who say they'll try to align by grade, poster at one club said they're not really doing it. It's more like all talk. For example:

"Reality is whatever makes the best teams is what the clubs will do.

Match Fit in one breath says they will align or try to align by grade but a little further down the page and around the corner it says it will be discussed by coach and directors."

Directly from NJ TS...

"Literally MF, PSA, PF, Copa all indicated either on website or publicly on video that they plan to group August September birthdays on their grade in school team."

And it's directly challenged by someone who says they are at one of those clubs, but OK (more back and forth on that earlier in the thread in fact).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We have october and November kids on my sons team who will be in the higher grade than the age bracket.... Tuff spot as they wont make the new fist team with their grade. Seems like an unfair burden.

Why will they be with the higher grade? Is the school cut off date that late, or are they pretty advanced in school?

As you like to say, it's called reality. There is no perfect system with one grade unless you make it full GY.

Completely untrue...

SY with Aug birthdays playing up with their grade is almost like GY. The only players that arent allowed to roster are the very few school districts that start in July and the kids parents hold back in school so they're the biggest on sports teams. These kids cant play on the correct grade in school team. Everyone else can.

I like it.

You basically get GY but without regrades.

Won't work because clubs can't enforce grades without documents which don't exist and they don't want to handicap themselves against other teams by having younger players.

You dont need to enforce anything.

Clubs dont want 9th grade players on 8th grade teams because they'll be gone for have the season playing High School soccer.

Parents want Aug birthdays playing on the correct grade in school team for college recruiting purposes.

The "problem" solves itself when Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team.

It's only your problem. System working swimmingly for August births. They are the oldest now and they now know because of your efforts that multiple clubs reported that college coaches don't care what age group they are in. Just be the best player you can be and contact them, like everyone else has too.

Stop evading and be honest. Tell the whole truth

College coaches only care about players Graduating Year or Grade in school.

Which is why Aug birthdays should play on their correct grade in school team so they dont get ignored.

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Anonymous wrote:We have october and November kids on my sons team who will be in the higher grade than the age bracket.... Tuff spot as they wont make the new fist team with their grade. Seems like an unfair burden.

Why will they be with the higher grade? Is the school cut off date that late, or are they pretty advanced in school?

As you like to say, it's called reality. There is no perfect system with one grade unless you make it full GY.

Completely untrue...

SY with Aug birthdays playing up with their grade is almost like GY. The only players that arent allowed to roster are the very few school districts that start in July and the kids parents hold back in school so they're the biggest on sports teams. These kids cant play on the correct grade in school team. Everyone else can.

I like it.

You basically get GY but without regrades.

Won't work because clubs can't enforce grades without documents which don't exist and they don't want to handicap themselves against other teams by having younger players.

No one is taking away anything. A kid CAN play HS but oftentimes playing with club for another extra season is a better development choice. The reality -- thanks spongeBob -- is many, especially high level, do not play HS, especially freshmen or sophomore years.
You dont need to enforce anything.

Clubs dont want 9th grade players on 8th grade teams because they'll be gone for have the season playing High School soccer.

Parents want Aug birthdays playing on the correct grade in school team for college recruiting purposes.

The "problem" solves itself when Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team.

Or, there are only 1-2 players a team and not a big deal whether they play HS or not (and many on top teams won't because HS often isn't worth it for top tier players until AFTER they are recruited).

So now your plan is to take High School soccer away from Freshman so Aug birthdays can play down?

Get real

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We have october and November kids on my sons team who will be in the higher grade than the age bracket.... Tuff spot as they wont make the new fist team with their grade. Seems like an unfair burden.

Why will they be with the higher grade? Is the school cut off date that late, or are they pretty advanced in school?

As you like to say, it's called reality. There is no perfect system with one grade unless you make it full GY.

Completely untrue...

SY with Aug birthdays playing up with their grade is almost like GY. The only players that arent allowed to roster are the very few school districts that start in July and the kids parents hold back in school so they're the biggest on sports teams. These kids cant play on the correct grade in school team. Everyone else can.

You're in denial. It's probably because the NJ posters are also challenging you, including people saying how those clubs who will "try" to align by grade really aren't.

Wow, what are you talking about?

There's a new thread over on Talking Soccer NJ ... Aug guy/or someone with strikingly similar views is getting similar pushback there. At one point, he/she even references our lengthy thread here and how there's a whole grand cabal trying to convince Aug parents that playing on age is OK.

I just looked at New Jersey TS and what you're describing is not true. In fact there appears to be several people saying your posts are ridiculous. Which makes sense considering cutoff dates are late Sept and even into Nov in the NE. Meaning the amount of "August" players they have to deal with would be 2x or even 3x more than around here. It would be impossible to try and manage them all one by one you'd have to relay a single statement that everyone would abide by.

Yeah, and what they're saying it's all going to be by age, with limited exceptions. When Aug guy starts rattling off the clubs who say they'll try to align by grade, poster at one club said they're not really doing it. It's more like all talk. For example:

"Reality is whatever makes the best teams is what the clubs will do.

Match Fit in one breath says they will align or try to align by grade but a little further down the page and around the corner it says it will be discussed by coach and directors."

Directly from NJ TS...

"Literally MF, PSA, PF, Copa all indicated either on website or publicly on video that they plan to group August September birthdays on their grade in school team."

And it's directly challenged by someone who says they are at one of those clubs, but OK (more back and forth on that earlier in the thread in fact).

Theres no "challenge" its all you commenting and trying to keep your delusion from falling appart.

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Anonymous wrote:We have october and November kids on my sons team who will be in the higher grade than the age bracket.... Tuff spot as they wont make the new fist team with their grade. Seems like an unfair burden.

Why will they be with the higher grade? Is the school cut off date that late, or are they pretty advanced in school?

As you like to say, it's called reality. There is no perfect system with one grade unless you make it full GY.

Completely untrue...

SY with Aug birthdays playing up with their grade is almost like GY. The only players that arent allowed to roster are the very few school districts that start in July and the kids parents hold back in school so they're the biggest on sports teams. These kids cant play on the correct grade in school team. Everyone else can.

I like it.

You basically get GY but without regrades.

Won't work because clubs can't enforce grades without documents which don't exist and they don't want to handicap themselves against other teams by having younger players.

You dont need to enforce anything.

Clubs dont want 9th grade players on 8th grade teams because they'll be gone for have the season playing High School soccer.

Parents want Aug birthdays playing on the correct grade in school team for college recruiting purposes.

The "problem" solves itself when Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team.

Or, there are only 1-2 players a team and not a big deal whether they play HS or not (and many on top teams won't because HS often isn't worth it for top tier players until AFTER they are recruited).

So now your plan is to take High School soccer away from Freshman so Aug birthdays can play down?

Get real

No one is taking away anything. A kid CAN play HS but oftentimes playing with club for another extra season is a better development choice. The reality -- thanks spongeBob -- is many, especially high level, do not play HS, especially freshmen or sophomore years.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We have october and November kids on my sons team who will be in the higher grade than the age bracket.... Tuff spot as they wont make the new fist team with their grade. Seems like an unfair burden.

Why will they be with the higher grade? Is the school cut off date that late, or are they pretty advanced in school?

As you like to say, it's called reality. There is no perfect system with one grade unless you make it full GY.

Completely untrue...

SY with Aug birthdays playing up with their grade is almost like GY. The only players that arent allowed to roster are the very few school districts that start in July and the kids parents hold back in school so they're the biggest on sports teams. These kids cant play on the correct grade in school team. Everyone else can.

I like it.

You basically get GY but without regrades.

Won't work because clubs can't enforce grades without documents which don't exist and they don't want to handicap themselves against other teams by having younger players.

You dont need to enforce anything.

Clubs dont want 9th grade players on 8th grade teams because they'll be gone for have the season playing High School soccer.

Parents want Aug birthdays playing on the correct grade in school team for college recruiting purposes.

The "problem" solves itself when Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team.

Or, there are only 1-2 players a team and not a big deal whether they play HS or not (and many on top teams won't because HS often isn't worth it for top tier players until AFTER they are recruited).

So now your plan is to take High School soccer away from Freshman so Aug birthdays can play down?

Get real

No one is taking away anything. A kid CAN play HS but oftentimes playing with club for another extra season is a better development choice. The reality -- thanks spongeBob -- is many, especially high level, do not play HS, especially freshmen or sophomore years.

Nonsense this is just you trying to maintain your delusion. Freshman play high school soccer.

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Anonymous wrote:We have october and November kids on my sons team who will be in the higher grade than the age bracket.... Tuff spot as they wont make the new fist team with their grade. Seems like an unfair burden.

Why will they be with the higher grade? Is the school cut off date that late, or are they pretty advanced in school?

As you like to say, it's called reality. There is no perfect system with one grade unless you make it full GY.

Completely untrue...

SY with Aug birthdays playing up with their grade is almost like GY. The only players that arent allowed to roster are the very few school districts that start in July and the kids parents hold back in school so they're the biggest on sports teams. These kids cant play on the correct grade in school team. Everyone else can.

You're in denial. It's probably because the NJ posters are also challenging you, including people saying how those clubs who will "try" to align by grade really aren't.

Wow, what are you talking about?

There's a new thread over on Talking Soccer NJ ... Aug guy/or someone with strikingly similar views is getting similar pushback there. At one point, he/she even references our lengthy thread here and how there's a whole grand cabal trying to convince Aug parents that playing on age is OK.

I just looked at New Jersey TS and what you're describing is not true. In fact there appears to be several people saying your posts are ridiculous. Which makes sense considering cutoff dates are late Sept and even into Nov in the NE. Meaning the amount of "August" players they have to deal with would be 2x or even 3x more than around here. It would be impossible to try and manage them all one by one you'd have to relay a single statement that everyone would abide by.

Yeah, and what they're saying it's all going to be by age, with limited exceptions. When Aug guy starts rattling off the clubs who say they'll try to align by grade, poster at one club said they're not really doing it. It's more like all talk. For example:

"Reality is whatever makes the best teams is what the clubs will do.

Match Fit in one breath says they will align or try to align by grade but a little further down the page and around the corner it says it will be discussed by coach and directors."

Directly from NJ TS...

"Literally MF, PSA, PF, Copa all indicated either on website or publicly on video that they plan to group August September birthdays on their grade in school team."

And it's directly challenged by someone who says they are at one of those clubs, but OK (more back and forth on that earlier in the thread in fact).

Theres no "challenge" its all you commenting and trying to keep your delusion from falling appart.

And it's not me. Never commented there once. Just like here you think it's 1 person when it's multiple people. Oh well.