War with Iran

Anonymous
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The biggest winner in this is Iran. We’ve made their footprint taller in the region and gave them leverage over the Strait of Hormuz and they showed dominance by hitting all the US bases and Israel. Now that they are emboldened and know that our diplomacy and ceasefire talks are a farce, they will be even more dedicated to obtaining a nuclear weapon to ensure we do not invade again.

Netanyahu goals all backfired because he’s a moron
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The biggest winner in this is Iran. We’ve made their footprint taller in the region and gave them leverage over the Strait of Hormuz and they showed dominance by hitting all the US bases and Israel. Now that they are emboldened and know that our diplomacy and ceasefire talks are a farce, they will be even more dedicated to obtaining a nuclear weapon to ensure we do not invade again.

Netanyahu goals all backfired because he’s a moron



From now on Iran is great world power with 20% of world oil control.
Anonymous
You don’t say?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The biggest winner in this is Iran. We’ve made their footprint taller in the region and gave them leverage over the Strait of Hormuz and they showed dominance by hitting all the US bases and Israel. Now that they are emboldened and know that our diplomacy and ceasefire talks are a farce, they will be even more dedicated to obtaining a nuclear weapon to ensure we do not invade again.

Netanyahu goals all backfired because he’s a moron


Nah. Iran's sustained a ton of damage and its dream of being a regional hegemon is over. It has survived, harmed its rivals, and created leverage for itself but it will take a decade to recover from the destruction after this ends.
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Anonymous wrote:The biggest winner in this is Iran. We’ve made their footprint taller in the region and gave them leverage over the Strait of Hormuz and they showed dominance by hitting all the US bases and Israel. Now that they are emboldened and know that our diplomacy and ceasefire talks are a farce, they will be even more dedicated to obtaining a nuclear weapon to ensure we do not invade again.

Netanyahu goals all backfired because he’s a moron


Nah. Iran's sustained a ton of damage and its dream of being a regional hegemon is over. It has survived, harmed its rivals, and created leverage for itself but it will take a decade to recover from the destruction after this ends.


Almost all of Iran's oil goes to China. China now owns the Strait of Hormuz because it owns Iran. China also owns Russia for similar financial reasons.
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Anonymous wrote:UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer announced that Foreign Secretary Yvette Cooper would host a virtual meeting of 35 countries to assess diplomatic and political measures to restore freedom of navigation through the Strait of Hormuz “after the fighting has stopped.” The US is not among the countries attending the meeting.


This. Europe is turning to China as the global leader. They will get the ships moving again, using the Yuan as the primary currency. Donald has handed the US to Russia on a silver platter.


EU is a clear loser in all of this. They are facing economic losses and their failure to act in any meaningful way, whether diplomatically or otherwise does not benefit them strategically or politically.

Iran is an overall loser in this.

US is a short term military winner, but at significant cost to American taxpayers and consumers, and a political loser.

Israel is a short term strategic winner, crippling its longtime enemy, but also at great cost internally.

Russia is an overall winner, economically and politically - they are benefitting from billions in extra oil revenue, and the world is distracted from its Ukraine war.

China is suffering short term economic losses but will be an overall strategic winner.


The big losers are the US, Lebanon, Iran, KSA, UAE, Kuwait and Japan.

The EU is tied to our anchor. Bahrain is tied to the Gulf States anchor.

Israel gains short term but long term has harmed itself bigly.

Russia, Turkey, Pakistan, and Oman are the big winners.

India and China benefit long term.


Israel is the biggest loser in this. They can’t survive even a week of fighting their neighbors even with all the iron dome and protections they have. They won’t even allow the country to be or its citizens to leave. That’s how bad things are. They are also closer to regime
Change or civil war than Iran is. Their economy and infrastructure has been leveled and so has their democracy.

The second biggest loser are the Gulf States.

The third biggest loser is the US.


They've expanded their territory and undertaken ethnic cleansing with virtually no blowback, strengthened ties with Saudi Arabia, and gotten the US to attack their enemy. In the short term they've succeeded beyond their wildest dreams but the long term aftershocks will not be as beneficial.
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Anonymous wrote:The biggest winner in this is Iran. We’ve made their footprint taller in the region and gave them leverage over the Strait of Hormuz and they showed dominance by hitting all the US bases and Israel. Now that they are emboldened and know that our diplomacy and ceasefire talks are a farce, they will be even more dedicated to obtaining a nuclear weapon to ensure we do not invade again.

Netanyahu goals all backfired because he’s a moron


Nah. Iran's sustained a ton of damage and its dream of being a regional hegemon is over. It has survived, harmed its rivals, and created leverage for itself but it will take a decade to recover from the destruction after this ends.


Almost all of Iran's oil goes to China. China now owns the Strait of Hormuz because it owns Iran. China also owns Russia for similar financial reasons.


That's not a win for Iran. That's a win for China.
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Anonymous wrote:UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer announced that Foreign Secretary Yvette Cooper would host a virtual meeting of 35 countries to assess diplomatic and political measures to restore freedom of navigation through the Strait of Hormuz “after the fighting has stopped.” The US is not among the countries attending the meeting.


This. Europe is turning to China as the global leader. They will get the ships moving again, using the Yuan as the primary currency. Donald has handed the US to Russia on a silver platter.


EU is a clear loser in all of this. They are facing economic losses and their failure to act in any meaningful way, whether diplomatically or otherwise does not benefit them strategically or politically.

Iran is an overall loser in this.

US is a short term military winner, but at significant cost to American taxpayers and consumers, and a political loser.

Israel is a short term strategic winner, crippling its longtime enemy, but also at great cost internally.

Russia is an overall winner, economically and politically - they are benefitting from billions in extra oil revenue, and the world is distracted from its Ukraine war.

China is suffering short term economic losses but will be an overall strategic winner.


The big losers are the US, Lebanon, Iran, KSA, UAE, Kuwait and Japan.

The EU is tied to our anchor. Bahrain is tied to the Gulf States anchor.

Israel gains short term but long term has harmed itself bigly.

Russia, Turkey, Pakistan, and Oman are the big winners.

India and China benefit long term.


Israel is the biggest loser in this. They can’t survive even a week of fighting their neighbors even with all the iron dome and protections they have. They won’t even allow the country to be or its citizens to leave. That’s how bad things are. They are also closer to regime
Change or civil war than Iran is. Their economy and infrastructure has been leveled and so has their democracy.

The second biggest loser are the Gulf States.

The third biggest loser is the US.

While I am hopeful the bolded is true, this has not been reported and verified by any outlet.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You don’t say?


Trump listens to no one. He said he's going to decide when he feels it in his bones.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The biggest winner in this is Iran. We’ve made their footprint taller in the region and gave them leverage over the Strait of Hormuz and they showed dominance by hitting all the US bases and Israel. Now that they are emboldened and know that our diplomacy and ceasefire talks are a farce, they will be even more dedicated to obtaining a nuclear weapon to ensure we do not invade again.

Netanyahu goals all backfired because he’s a moron


He's not a moron. He got the US to take care of Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, and numerous other countries. Can't blame him for trying to get Iran as well.
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Anonymous wrote:The biggest winner in this is Iran. We’ve made their footprint taller in the region and gave them leverage over the Strait of Hormuz and they showed dominance by hitting all the US bases and Israel. Now that they are emboldened and know that our diplomacy and ceasefire talks are a farce, they will be even more dedicated to obtaining a nuclear weapon to ensure we do not invade again.

Netanyahu goals all backfired because he’s a moron


Nah. Iran's sustained a ton of damage and its dream of being a regional hegemon is over. It has survived, harmed its rivals, and created leverage for itself but it will take a decade to recover from the destruction after this ends.


Almost all of Iran's oil goes to China. China now owns the Strait of Hormuz because it owns Iran. China also owns Russia for similar financial reasons.


That's not a win for Iran. That's a win for China.


I made the post. That was my point.

That is one of many wins for China since Trump took office.

1. Trump has pushed the US's trading partners closer to China.
2. The tariffs have made it so that the US's trading partners need cheaper inputs for their products. Who makes cheap goods? China.
3. High fuel prices make Chinese EVs more attractive.
4. The attack on Iran provides justification for China attacking Taiwan.
5. The slow death of NATO is nothing but good news for China.
6. More and more countries are now trading in Chinese yuan.
7. And of course, the Strait of Hormuz is now owned by China.

Trump is making China great again. MCGA!
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Anonymous wrote:UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer announced that Foreign Secretary Yvette Cooper would host a virtual meeting of 35 countries to assess diplomatic and political measures to restore freedom of navigation through the Strait of Hormuz “after the fighting has stopped.” The US is not among the countries attending the meeting.


This. Europe is turning to China as the global leader. They will get the ships moving again, using the Yuan as the primary currency. Donald has handed the US to Russia on a silver platter.


EU is a clear loser in all of this. They are facing economic losses and their failure to act in any meaningful way, whether diplomatically or otherwise does not benefit them strategically or politically.

Iran is an overall loser in this.

US is a short term military winner, but at significant cost to American taxpayers and consumers, and a political loser.

Israel is a short term strategic winner, crippling its longtime enemy, but also at great cost internally.

Russia is an overall winner, economically and politically - they are benefitting from billions in extra oil revenue, and the world is distracted from its Ukraine war.

China is suffering short term economic losses but will be an overall strategic winner.


The big losers are the US, Lebanon, Iran, KSA, UAE, Kuwait and Japan.

The EU is tied to our anchor. Bahrain is tied to the Gulf States anchor.

Israel gains short term but long term has harmed itself bigly.

Russia, Turkey, Pakistan, and Oman are the big winners.

India and China benefit long term.


Israel is the biggest loser in this. They can’t survive even a week of fighting their neighbors even with all the iron dome and protections they have. They won’t even allow the country to be or its citizens to leave. That’s how bad things are. They are also closer to regime
Change or civil war than Iran is. Their economy and infrastructure has been leveled and so has their democracy.

The second biggest loser are the Gulf States.

The third biggest loser is the US.


They've expanded their territory and undertaken ethnic cleansing with virtually no blowback, strengthened ties with Saudi Arabia, and gotten the US to attack their enemy. In the short term they've succeeded beyond their wildest dreams but the long term aftershocks will not be as beneficial.


They’ve not expanded their territory whatsoever. They are not performing well in Southern Lebanon and the chief of the IdF said they are overextended and don’t have enough people in the military to complete their objectives with expansion. Netanyahu refuses to draft ultra Orrhodox because he needs their votes to win. They have not strengthened ties with Saudi. Saudi may abandon the petrodollar for BRICS. Saudis don’t like surprises and they see that there is too much drama with the US and Israel. They will get more closer to China even if it’s a way to ruffle Iran feathers by selling their oil to China instead in order to get Chinese missiles. The US tech is overpriced and doesn’t work is what the Saudis and Gulf allies who pay for us weapons unlike Israel may realize
Anonymous
Will Americans, specifically republicans, embrace teleworking to reduce the cost burden of this war on gas prices? Not like people will get raises to keep up with costs.
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