War with Iran

Anonymous
Lots of losers to choose from. But it’s far from over. Trump has no idea what he’s doing and nor do the idiots surrounding him.

Best case is for him to declare victory and bring our troops home. It won’t help the economy or our global standing, both of which Trump has completely trashed. But no need to incur further losses.
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Anonymous wrote:The biggest winner in this is Iran. We’ve made their footprint taller in the region and gave them leverage over the Strait of Hormuz and they showed dominance by hitting all the US bases and Israel. Now that they are emboldened and know that our diplomacy and ceasefire talks are a farce, they will be even more dedicated to obtaining a nuclear weapon to ensure we do not invade again.

Netanyahu goals all backfired because he’s a moron


Nah. Iran's sustained a ton of damage and its dream of being a regional hegemon is over. It has survived, harmed its rivals, and created leverage for itself but it will take a decade to recover from the destruction after this ends.


If you listen to the experts, they're saying that Iran will be back in 20 years, possibly 10, after extracting all the oil tolls and US concessions. Which is why they're concerned about Israel mowing the lawn not only in Palestine (and Lebanon and Syria) but now in Iran in the future.
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Anonymous wrote:UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer announced that Foreign Secretary Yvette Cooper would host a virtual meeting of 35 countries to assess diplomatic and political measures to restore freedom of navigation through the Strait of Hormuz “after the fighting has stopped.” The US is not among the countries attending the meeting.


This. Europe is turning to China as the global leader. They will get the ships moving again, using the Yuan as the primary currency. Donald has handed the US to Russia on a silver platter.


EU is a clear loser in all of this. They are facing economic losses and their failure to act in any meaningful way, whether diplomatically or otherwise does not benefit them strategically or politically.

Iran is an overall loser in this.

US is a short term military winner, but at significant cost to American taxpayers and consumers, and a political loser.

Israel is a short term strategic winner, crippling its longtime enemy, but also at great cost internally.

Russia is an overall winner, economically and politically - they are benefitting from billions in extra oil revenue, and the world is distracted from its Ukraine war.

China is suffering short term economic losses but will be an overall strategic winner.


The big losers are the US, Lebanon, Iran, KSA, UAE, Kuwait and Japan.

The EU is tied to our anchor. Bahrain is tied to the Gulf States anchor.

Israel gains short term but long term has harmed itself bigly.

Russia, Turkey, Pakistan, and Oman are the big winners.

India and China benefit long term.


Israel is the biggest loser in this. They can’t survive even a week of fighting their neighbors even with all the iron dome and protections they have. They won’t even allow the country to be or its citizens to leave. That’s how bad things are. They are also closer to regime
Change or civil war than Iran is. Their economy and infrastructure has been leveled and so has their democracy.

The second biggest loser are the Gulf States.

The third biggest loser is the US.

While I am hopeful the bolded is true, this has not been reported and verified by any outlet.


It is true. Israel has food shortages as well. Again, don’t expect the Us media to report on this. Independent journalists will. Israel is trying to hide things like a regime because they don’t want their people to rebel or freak out. The Us and Israel are both lying and undercounting the death toll
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Joe Rogan: “I’m confused. I can’t believe we went to this war. When we started bombing Iran I was like this can’t be true… Supposedly, they’re trying to stop the terrorists”

Theo Von: “That’s crazy though if you’re the f***ing terrorists! If you wanna stop them stand in front of the f***ing mirror”

Via Marco Foster, Threads
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Anonymous wrote:Joe Rogan: “I’m confused. I can’t believe we went to this war. When we started bombing Iran I was like this can’t be true… Supposedly, they’re trying to stop the terrorists”

Theo Von: “That’s crazy though if you’re the f***ing terrorists! If you wanna stop them stand in front of the f***ing mirror”

Via Marco Foster, Threads


Theo Von is dope. One of the few southern whites that actually gets it.
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Anonymous wrote:UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer announced that Foreign Secretary Yvette Cooper would host a virtual meeting of 35 countries to assess diplomatic and political measures to restore freedom of navigation through the Strait of Hormuz “after the fighting has stopped.” The US is not among the countries attending the meeting.


This. Europe is turning to China as the global leader. They will get the ships moving again, using the Yuan as the primary currency. Donald has handed the US to Russia on a silver platter.


EU is a clear loser in all of this. They are facing economic losses and their failure to act in any meaningful way, whether diplomatically or otherwise does not benefit them strategically or politically.

Iran is an overall loser in this.

US is a short term military winner, but at significant cost to American taxpayers and consumers, and a political loser.

Israel is a short term strategic winner, crippling its longtime enemy, but also at great cost internally.

Russia is an overall winner, economically and politically - they are benefitting from billions in extra oil revenue, and the world is distracted from its Ukraine war.

China is suffering short term economic losses but will be an overall strategic winner.


The big losers are the US, Lebanon, Iran, KSA, UAE, Kuwait and Japan.

The EU is tied to our anchor. Bahrain is tied to the Gulf States anchor.

Israel gains short term but long term has harmed itself bigly.

Russia, Turkey, Pakistan, and Oman are the big winners.

India and China benefit long term.


Israel is the biggest loser in this. They can’t survive even a week of fighting their neighbors even with all the iron dome and protections they have. They won’t even allow the country to be or its citizens to leave. That’s how bad things are. They are also closer to regime
Change or civil war than Iran is. Their economy and infrastructure has been leveled and so has their democracy.

The second biggest loser are the Gulf States.

The third biggest loser is the US.


They've expanded their territory and undertaken ethnic cleansing with virtually no blowback, strengthened ties with Saudi Arabia, and gotten the US to attack their enemy. In the short term they've succeeded beyond their wildest dreams but the long term aftershocks will not be as beneficial.


They’ve not expanded their territory whatsoever. They are not performing well in Southern Lebanon and the chief of the IdF said they are overextended and don’t have enough people in the military to complete their objectives with expansion. Netanyahu refuses to draft ultra Orrhodox because he needs their votes to win. They have not strengthened ties with Saudi. Saudi may abandon the petrodollar for BRICS. Saudis don’t like surprises and they see that there is too much drama with the US and Israel. They will get more closer to China even if it’s a way to ruffle Iran feathers by selling their oil to China instead in order to get Chinese missiles. The US tech is overpriced and doesn’t work is what the Saudis and Gulf allies who pay for us weapons unlike Israel may realize


Lol, you've consumed too much propaganda.
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Anonymous wrote:You don’t say?


Trump listens to no one. He said he's going to decide when he feels it in his bone spurs.


FIFY
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer announced that Foreign Secretary Yvette Cooper would host a virtual meeting of 35 countries to assess diplomatic and political measures to restore freedom of navigation through the Strait of Hormuz “after the fighting has stopped.” The US is not among the countries attending the meeting.


This. Europe is turning to China as the global leader. They will get the ships moving again, using the Yuan as the primary currency. Donald has handed the US to Russia on a silver platter.


EU is a clear loser in all of this. They are facing economic losses and their failure to act in any meaningful way, whether diplomatically or otherwise does not benefit them strategically or politically.

Iran is an overall loser in this.

US is a short term military winner, but at significant cost to American taxpayers and consumers, and a political loser.

Israel is a short term strategic winner, crippling its longtime enemy, but also at great cost internally.

Russia is an overall winner, economically and politically - they are benefitting from billions in extra oil revenue, and the world is distracted from its Ukraine war.

China is suffering short term economic losses but will be an overall strategic winner.


The big losers are the US, Lebanon, Iran, KSA, UAE, Kuwait and Japan.

The EU is tied to our anchor. Bahrain is tied to the Gulf States anchor.

Israel gains short term but long term has harmed itself bigly.

Russia, Turkey, Pakistan, and Oman are the big winners.

India and China benefit long term.


IRAN winner long term with control of 20% of oil.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Lots of losers to choose from. But it’s far from over. Trump has no idea what he’s doing and nor do the idiots surrounding him.

Best case is for him to declare victory and bring our troops home. It won’t help the economy or our global standing, both of which Trump has completely trashed. But no need to incur further losses.


That's wishful thinking but we all know Israel would never allow this to happen
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The US military really let Trump down in the war. Someone has to pay.
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Anonymous wrote:The biggest winner in this is Iran. We’ve made their footprint taller in the region and gave them leverage over the Strait of Hormuz and they showed dominance by hitting all the US bases and Israel. Now that they are emboldened and know that our diplomacy and ceasefire talks are a farce, they will be even more dedicated to obtaining a nuclear weapon to ensure we do not invade again.

Netanyahu goals all backfired because he’s a moron


Nah. Iran's sustained a ton of damage and its dream of being a regional hegemon is over. It has survived, harmed its rivals, and created leverage for itself but it will take a decade to recover from the destruction after this ends.


If you listen to the experts, they're saying that Iran will be back in 20 years, possibly 10, after extracting all the oil tolls and US concessions. Which is why they're concerned about Israel mowing the lawn not only in Palestine (and Lebanon and Syria) but now in Iran in the future.


If you listen to the experts they are saying Iran will have vastly improved missiles and drones in 3-6 months. Iran is not going to let up on Israel. Israel is going to pay very high price for this but they will not listen to reason. Now Israel will have to listen to reality. It is Israel who will be mowed.

Seriously Israel is fight 3 wars and planning on attacking Turkey. Can not stop Iranian missiles and still are openly talking about genocide in Gaza, Lebanon, Iran, Syria, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:“regime change was not our objective” “but regime change has occurred”.

He really does live in an alternative reality.

Isn’t the former leaders SON in charge??
Right, and we killed his dad. Why would anyone believe he'd be more easier to deal with?


We killed his wife and child. We are such a great nation.


And he ordered the murders of thousands and thousands of his own citizens. You sure have a case of misplaced sympathy for these vile POS.
DP


Where’s our proof to support that claim?


We are well past the point of just accepting claims because our government says so, or because our Western media outlets say so.

So where is our proof to support the claim that “thousands and thousands” were ordered to be killed? Last night, Captain Bonespurs upped the ante and increased the claim to 45,000 killed just in January, apparently.

It’s getting really old having to point out that we didn’t have a shred of documentary evidence to support the claim, for example, that Assad ordered hundreds of thousands killed in Syria with chemical weapons (again, for emphasis, zero documentary evidence has ever been presented to substantiate our claims regarding the number dead or the cause of death), while we do mental gymnastics to find new ways to refute the documented death count in Gaza.


Wow. Someone is really, really trying to deny reality here. Do you even hear yourself? I’m sure you’re correct. Iran, being the highly moral and ethical regime it is, would never have murdered thousands of their own people. That’s just crazy talk, even though there are plenty of actual Iranian eyewitness accounts. Accounts vary due to the internet blackout, but the number of victims is without a doubt in the thousands. Why are you denying this?

Hundreds of photos revealing the faces of those killed during Iran's violent crackdown on anti-government protests have been leaked to BBC Verify.

The pictures, which are too graphic to show without blurring, reveal the bloodied, swollen and bruised faces of at least 326 victims - including 18 women. The images, displayed in a south Tehran mortuary, are one of the only ways families have been able to identify their dead loved ones.

Many of the victims were too disfigured to be identified, and 69 people had been labelled in Persian as John or Jane Doe, suggesting their identity was unknown when the photo was taken.

Labels on more than 100 victims, who had their date of death recorded, showed that date as 9 January, one of the deadliest nights for protesters in Tehran so far.

The leaked photos provide a small snapshot of the thousands believed to have been killed at the hands of the Iranian state.

Sources claimed the true number of dead at the mortuary ran into the thousands.

One source, who we are not naming for their safety, told us they weren't prepared for the level of devastation they encountered inside the mortuary complex, and said they saw victims ranging from as young as 12 or 13 to 60 and 70-year-olds. "It was just too much," they said.

BBC Verify has separately corroborated videos from the same mortuary that demonstrate the violence perpetrated against protesters. One shows the body of what appears to be a child, while another shows a man with a clear gunshot wound in the middle of his head. Both videos are too distressing to show.

The internet blackout has made it extremely difficult to document the full extent of the death toll from the protests. However, US-based Human Rights Activists News Agency (HRANA) has placed its current estimate at more than 4,000 deaths.” (This was just in January)
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0r4957rq8ro

Eyewitness accounts from Iranian doctors:

Their observations, shared with the Guardian and combined with accounts from morgues and graveyards across the country, begin to reveal the vast scale of violence inflicted on Iranians during the state’s crackdown. Ahmadi and his colleagues are hesitant to provide a figure for the toll but agree “all publicly cited death tolls represent a severe underestimation”. Comparing the number of dead they witnessed with hospital baselines, they estimate it could exceed 30,000, far surpassing official figures. This is based on the conclusion that “officially registered deaths related to the crackdown likely represent less than 10% of the real number of fatalities”.

Estimates of the number killed vary substantially, hampered by the ongoing internet shutdown. The Iranian government has acknowledged more than 3,000 dead, and the US-based organisation HRANA (Human Rights Activists News Agency), whose figures have been reliable during previous crackdowns, says it has verified more than 6,000 dead and has more than 17,000 more recorded deaths under investigation, giving a possible total of about 22,000. Other estimates from doctors based outside Iran range up to 33,000 or more.

Testimony from morgues, graveyards and hospitals around the country reveal concerted efforts by authorities to conceal the true size of the toll: bodies being transported in ice-cream vans and meat trucks; piles of the dead being hastily buried; and hundreds of bodies apparently disappearing from Iran’s network of forensic facilities.

The language Ahmadi uses is measured and clinical, but he is brought to tears describing the violence the doctors documented. “From a medical standpoint, the injuries we observed demonstrate a brutality without limit – both in scale and in method,” he says. Another doctor, who is based in Tehran, tells the Guardian: “I am on the verge of a psychological collapse. They’ve mass murdered people. No one can imagine … I saw just blood, blood and blood.”
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/jan/27/iran-protests-death-toll-disappeared-bodies-mass-burials-30000-dead
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“regime change was not our objective” “but regime change has occurred”.

He really does live in an alternative reality.

Isn’t the former leaders SON in charge??
Right, and we killed his dad. Why would anyone believe he'd be more easier to deal with?


We killed his wife and child. We are such a great nation.


And he ordered the murders of thousands and thousands of his own citizens. You sure have a case of misplaced sympathy for these vile POS.
DP


Where’s our proof to support that claim?


We are well past the point of just accepting claims because our government says so, or because our Western media outlets say so.

So where is our proof to support the claim that “thousands and thousands” were ordered to be killed? Last night, Captain Bonespurs upped the ante and increased the claim to 45,000 killed just in January, apparently.

It’s getting really old having to point out that we didn’t have a shred of documentary evidence to support the claim, for example, that Assad ordered hundreds of thousands killed in Syria with chemical weapons (again, for emphasis, zero documentary evidence has ever been presented to substantiate our claims regarding the number dead or the cause of death), while we do mental gymnastics to find new ways to refute the documented death count in Gaza.


Wow. Someone is really, really trying to deny reality here. Do you even hear yourself? I’m sure you’re correct. Iran, being the highly moral and ethical regime it is, would never have murdered thousands of their own people. That’s just crazy talk, even though there are plenty of actual Iranian eyewitness accounts. Accounts vary due to the internet blackout, but the number of victims is without a doubt in the thousands. Why are you denying this?

Hundreds of photos revealing the faces of those killed during Iran's violent crackdown on anti-government protests have been leaked to BBC Verify.

The pictures, which are too graphic to show without blurring, reveal the bloodied, swollen and bruised faces of at least 326 victims - including 18 women. The images, displayed in a south Tehran mortuary, are one of the only ways families have been able to identify their dead loved ones.

Many of the victims were too disfigured to be identified, and 69 people had been labelled in Persian as John or Jane Doe, suggesting their identity was unknown when the photo was taken.

Labels on more than 100 victims, who had their date of death recorded, showed that date as 9 January, one of the deadliest nights for protesters in Tehran so far.

The leaked photos provide a small snapshot of the thousands believed to have been killed at the hands of the Iranian state.

Sources claimed the true number of dead at the mortuary ran into the thousands.

One source, who we are not naming for their safety, told us they weren't prepared for the level of devastation they encountered inside the mortuary complex, and said they saw victims ranging from as young as 12 or 13 to 60 and 70-year-olds. "It was just too much," they said.

BBC Verify has separately corroborated videos from the same mortuary that demonstrate the violence perpetrated against protesters. One shows the body of what appears to be a child, while another shows a man with a clear gunshot wound in the middle of his head. Both videos are too distressing to show.

The internet blackout has made it extremely difficult to document the full extent of the death toll from the protests. However, US-based Human Rights Activists News Agency (HRANA) has placed its current estimate at more than 4,000 deaths.” (This was just in January)
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0r4957rq8ro

Eyewitness accounts from Iranian doctors:

Their observations, shared with the Guardian and combined with accounts from morgues and graveyards across the country, begin to reveal the vast scale of violence inflicted on Iranians during the state’s crackdown. Ahmadi and his colleagues are hesitant to provide a figure for the toll but agree “all publicly cited death tolls represent a severe underestimation”. Comparing the number of dead they witnessed with hospital baselines, they estimate it could exceed 30,000, far surpassing official figures. This is based on the conclusion that “officially registered deaths related to the crackdown likely represent less than 10% of the real number of fatalities”.

Estimates of the number killed vary substantially, hampered by the ongoing internet shutdown. The Iranian government has acknowledged more than 3,000 dead, and the US-based organisation HRANA (Human Rights Activists News Agency), whose figures have been reliable during previous crackdowns, says it has verified more than 6,000 dead and has more than 17,000 more recorded deaths under investigation, giving a possible total of about 22,000. Other estimates from doctors based outside Iran range up to 33,000 or more.

Testimony from morgues, graveyards and hospitals around the country reveal concerted efforts by authorities to conceal the true size of the toll: bodies being transported in ice-cream vans and meat trucks; piles of the dead being hastily buried; and hundreds of bodies apparently disappearing from Iran’s network of forensic facilities.

The language Ahmadi uses is measured and clinical, but he is brought to tears describing the violence the doctors documented. “From a medical standpoint, the injuries we observed demonstrate a brutality without limit – both in scale and in method,” he says. Another doctor, who is based in Tehran, tells the Guardian: “I am on the verge of a psychological collapse. They’ve mass murdered people. No one can imagine … I saw just blood, blood and blood.”
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/jan/27/iran-protests-death-toll-disappeared-bodies-mass-burials-30000-dead


At this rate in a few decades they’ll catch up with Israel.
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