Don't fly United

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Anonymous wrote:The airlines are already deregulated... HELLO!!!!!

Don't be daft. Of course we are all aware of the "airline deregulation" that took place in the late 70s. It takes the feds out of the business of dealing with fares, routes and new airlines entering the market. But there are a shit ton of regulations that relate to the airlines, planes, runways, you name it. My point is airlines, for example, should be regulated in the way they handle overbooking. Set a limit (can't overbook by a certain percentage), set a minimum that must be paid to customers who are bumped (triple the fare), enable the paying customer to say no.

I'm conservative and don't give a shit if they overbook, no limits needed. But you need to pay $$ for the seats if you bump people. You can't use police to force the consequences of your overbooking.

I also have happily gotten off for $800 before, but obviously that wasn't enough money in this circumstance.

They offered $800 in United vouchers. That's waaaaaaaaaaaay less than $800 in cold hard cash. The vouchers have restrictions, expiration dates, and can't be used to pay for taxes or other fees associated with airfares.

United needs to quit being cheapskates. They basically just beat this man up in order to save money. That's not how we do business in America. 'Eff them.

Yep. Can't wait to see the next cover of The New Yorker...somehow I feel it will encapsulate what you just said, PP.

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Anonymous wrote:If you have a United credit card, please consider paying off your balance or transferring your balance to another card and close your United card. They need to know that people will vote with their feet.

Great way to stick it to JP Morgan Chase, which issues the United card. Screw them big time!

They are no angels.

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Anonymous wrote:"David Dao, the Elizabethtown doctor who was yanked off an overbooked United Airlines flight Sunday, has had a troubled history in Kentucky.

Dao, who went to medical school in Vietnam in the 1970s before moving to the U.S., was working as a pulmonologist in Elizabethtown when he was arrested in 2003 and eventually convicted of drug-related offenses after an undercover investigation, according to documents filed with the Kentucky Board of Medical Licensure last June. The documents allege that he was involved in fraudulent prescriptions for controlled substances and was sexually involved with a patient who used to work for his practice and assisted police in building a case against him.

Dao was convicted of multiple felony counts of obtaining drugs by fraud or deceit in November 2004 and was placed on five years of supervised probation in January 2005. He surrendered his medical license the next month."

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2017/04/11/david-dao-passenger-removed-united-flight-doctor-troubled-past/100318320/

Why do you care? It is not like the settlement will come out of your pocket.

Sounds like a jilted lover set him up. Regardless, it was 14 years ago. He didn't lose his medical license and apparently there has been nothing since. I don't think this qualifies as sullying his reputation.

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Why didn't the airline just re-book the flight attendants/crew on another airline when this one was full? Or why didn't they book this passenger on another airline? If they couldn't get the involuntarily removed passenger on another flight the SAME DAY on their own airline, then they should have sent him the same day on another airline (or sent their staff on another airline).

They were so out of line.

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And for those who are looking to blame the victim here by digging around for negative stories about this man, just wait until we start getting all the unsavory stories about the United CEO, the three security officers, the United employees who were involved in the decision making, the four United employees who were willing to bump paying customers, etc. Everyone has things they don't want people to know about...cue the Access Hollywood audio tape...

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Anonymous wrote:i'm so confused... why would anyone who doesn't work for United even try to defend United in this incident? people get bumped every day but never one made headline news like this... and you think United didn't screw up here?

There's a large segment of the population - typically conservatives with authoritarian leanings - who love to verbally fellate anyone with "power." These are the same types that go to extreme lengths to defend LEOs or soliders who violate human and civil rights. A part of this mindset is also defending powerful corporations that violate the rights of consumers in the perverse hope that they will one day be an "insider" who gets to profit off the misery of others. In other words, they are awful people who are, unfortunately, often driven to become politicians or CEOs themselves out of an innate desire to control others.

It's democrats who love taking away people's liberty

Really? What is happening to the consumer protection agency?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why didn't the airline just re-book the flight attendants/crew on another airline when this one was full? Or why didn't they book this passenger on another airline? If they couldn't get the involuntarily removed passenger on another flight the SAME DAY on their own airline, then they should have sent him the same day on another airline (or sent their staff on another airline).

They were so out of line.

Last flight of the day on their own airline. The other flight option (American) had already left.

Flights to Louisville are not as frequent as flights to DC.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why didn't the airline just re-book the flight attendants/crew on another airline when this one was full? Or why didn't they book this passenger on another airline? If they couldn't get the involuntarily removed passenger on another flight the SAME DAY on their own airline, then they should have sent him the same day on another airline (or sent their staff on another airline).

They were so out of line.

Last flight of the day on their own airline. The other flight option (American) had already left.

Flights to Louisville are not as frequent as flights to DC.

Then their employer hires an Uber driver to take them to Louisville. The employees can nap or read a book. It's not Dr. Dao's issue that United didn't properly staff their routes.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd say, allow foreign carriers. Why this protectionist stance ( and who is it protecting btw?) when service sucks!

Pretty much all countries do it. I'm sure the unions have something to do with it.

That said, I"m not sure having Emirates or however competing will help passengers at all. They'll need to either charge double what the US airlines charge to keep their high level of service, or cut back just like the rest of US airlines to compete price-wise.

There already is such an option to get Emirates-level service on a US airline -- fly first class.

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Anonymous wrote:i'm so confused... why would anyone who doesn't work for United even try to defend United in this incident? people get bumped every day but never one made headline news like this... and you think United didn't screw up here?

There's a large segment of the population - typically conservatives with authoritarian leanings - who love to verbally fellate anyone with "power." These are the same types that go to extreme lengths to defend LEOs or soliders who violate human and civil rights. A part of this mindset is also defending powerful corporations that violate the rights of consumers in the perverse hope that they will one day be an "insider" who gets to profit off the misery of others. In other words, they are awful people who are, unfortunately, often driven to become politicians or CEOs themselves out of an innate desire to control others.

It's democrats who love taking away people's liberty

And this United Airlines CEO is a Democrat.
Imagine that.

You are such a sucker. The rich, be it black, white, yellow, left, right....all sleep in the same bed and marrying ne another. The division is for the working people so they can protect their interest.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why didn't the airline just re-book the flight attendants/crew on another airline when this one was full? Or why didn't they book this passenger on another airline? If they couldn't get the involuntarily removed passenger on another flight the SAME DAY on their own airline, then they should have sent him the same day on another airline (or sent their staff on another airline).

They were so out of line.

Last flight of the day on their own airline. The other flight option (American) had already left.

Flights to Louisville are not as frequent as flights to DC.

Then their employer hires an Uber driver to take them to Louisville. The employees can nap or read a book. It's not Dr. Dao's issue that United didn't properly staff their routes.

Then they get to their hotel too late, and can't get in the 12hours of rest required before they can work the morning flight. The crew in question here is 2 pilots and 2 flight attendants.

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Here's what I just don't understand.

If the United employees HAD to be on that flight in order to work the flight the next morning (and adhere to the rest requirements), why didn't United solicit 4 volunteers, give them some $$$ and then find an uber/taxi/car rental to get them back that night/early next morning? I have to imagine that there would be some volunteers that happily take the money if they got home very late that evening. I mean, it's like a 4 hour drive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:i'm so confused... why would anyone who doesn't work for United even try to defend United in this incident? people get bumped every day but never one made headline news like this... and you think United didn't screw up here?

There's a large segment of the population - typically conservatives with authoritarian leanings - who love to verbally fellate anyone with "power." These are the same types that go to extreme lengths to defend LEOs or soliders who violate human and civil rights. A part of this mindset is also defending powerful corporations that violate the rights of consumers in the perverse hope that they will one day be an "insider" who gets to profit off the misery of others. In other words, they are awful people who are, unfortunately, often driven to become politicians or CEOs themselves out of an innate desire to control others.

It's democrats who love taking away people's liberty

Really? What is happening to the consumer protection agency?

DP. Last time I checked, the UAL CEO was a Democrate.
Typical limousine liberal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why didn't the airline just re-book the flight attendants/crew on another airline when this one was full? Or why didn't they book this passenger on another airline? If they couldn't get the involuntarily removed passenger on another flight the SAME DAY on their own airline, then they should have sent him the same day on another airline (or sent their staff on another airline).

They were so out of line.

Last flight of the day on their own airline. The other flight option (American) had already left.

Flights to Louisville are not as frequent as flights to DC.

Then their employer hires an Uber driver to take them to Louisville. The employees can nap or read a book. It's not Dr. Dao's issue that United didn't properly staff their routes.

OMG. This is how EVERY airline staffs their routes.

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It wasn't an Involuntary Denied Boarding. He had ALREADY boarded. It was an involuntary de-boarding.

You are incorrect. A passenger is not officially boarded until the aircraft door is shut. Please stop spreading misinformation.

Please go f yourself.

Why? Don't like reality? I'm honestly confused at the hate here. Please go research these things.