Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone seen what one defender of the cop in question--who also happens to be a schoolteacher in TX--wrote on her FB page?

“I’m going to just go ahead and say it … the blacks are the ones causing the problems and this ‘racial tension.’ I guess that’s what happens when you flunk out of school and have no education. I’m sure their parents are just as guilty for not knowing what their kids were doing; or knew it and didn’t care. I’m almost to the point of wanting them all segregated on one side of town so they can hurt each other and leave the innocent people alone,” Fitzgibbons wrote in the since-deleted post.

http://www.salon.com/2015/06/11/im_almost_to_the_point_of_wanting_them_all_segregated_texas_teacher_pens_breathtakingly_racist_mckinney_post/

Disgusting and outrageous. I hope she is fired. As suspected, the cowardly racist deleted her post. I'd respect her more if she left it up and owned it.

She has been fired. I am not sure that these repeated social media mobs that get people fired are a good thing. I am a pretty firm believer in the right to be an asshole from time to time. She deserves all the criticism in the world and maybe some assigned research on racial segregation, but firing for a Facebook post seems a bit much.

[Anonymous]

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Casebolt had just come from a scene where a man had blown his brains out in front of his family.

I'm going to give him a pass on being a bit emotional that day.

Y'all can behave as you will. Carry on.

Imagine if the chief had this information when he made his first statements. Alas, he caved to media pressure.

What makes you think the chief didn't?

Because the chief had a press conference where he said the investigation is being transferred to Internal Affairs. Even if he had this 1 piece of information, he does not have all of the information. I doubt the chief had the information, he is a politician, not a LEO.

That's not a very convincing answer.

Do you have information that the chief was informed of the 2 suicide calls that the officer handled. Did I miss that news report.

I am also not convinced.

You are asking me to support an assertion that I did not make. The person who makes claims about the Chief's knowledge should be the one to support their assertions.

On 6/11 you stated that the police chief said he actions are "indefensible", and you imagined there was no reason for his actions. Knowing what you know now, do you think being on the scene with brains spattered to a wall the same day is a reason for his actions? I can't imagine a boss that is so insensitive to an employee that he knew he spent hours with family of a dead man who had brains spattered on the wall and then went on to defame his character.

Maybe the chief is that stupid, but I will give him the benefit of the doubt.

I'm sorry, but LEO encounter dead people as part of the job. If he was overwhelmed, he should have allowed others officers to take the call and reported to the police clinic.

Again, not true. Gosh such ignorance about cops.

Most beat cops rarely have call like this, homicide cops are different, but beat cops do not normally take calks like this. In good police forces, they have counseling after very disturbing calls. For example, when the father in upper MoCo hanged his children the beat police that responded to that call were taken off calls for the night and counseling spoke with them the next day. It is the responsibility of his supervisor to make that call.

Could be part of the reason for the supervisor coming down so hard on Casebolt.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are any of you all the actual parents of teens? Do you remember being a teen?

In many instances, it's all about defending yourself. Especially, if you feel you are being wrongly accused/singled out/etc. It's not disrespect, it's trying to state your case. As you grow into adulthood, you learn the time and the place to do this but teens are emotional and generally want to immediately defend their character.

The trophy generation at its worst.

Indeed. So what's now happened is those kids are all pumped up because they got a cop fired. And they will feel pretty invincible. Would love to see where those same kids are in a year...two years....

What an asinine leap in logic.

Your condemnation of the teens and their future is telling.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone seen what one defender of the cop in question--who also happens to be a schoolteacher in TX--wrote on her FB page?

“I’m going to just go ahead and say it … the blacks are the ones causing the problems and this ‘racial tension.’ I guess that’s what happens when you flunk out of school and have no education. I’m sure their parents are just as guilty for not knowing what their kids were doing; or knew it and didn’t care. I’m almost to the point of wanting them all segregated on one side of town so they can hurt each other and leave the innocent people alone,” Fitzgibbons wrote in the since-deleted post.

http://www.salon.com/2015/06/11/im_almost_to_the_point_of_wanting_them_all_segregated_texas_teacher_pens_breathtakingly_racist_mckinney_post/

Disgusting and outrageous. I hope she is fired. As suspected, the cowardly racist deleted her post. I'd respect her more if she left it up and owned it.

She has been fired. I am not sure that these repeated social media mobs that get people fired are a good thing. I am a pretty firm believer in the right to be an asshole from time to time. She deserves all the criticism in the world and maybe some assigned research on racial segregation, but firing for a Facebook post seems a bit much.

I disagree, but mainly because she is a teacher. I would not want her representing my school. And, as a black parent, I would not want her teaching my children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are any of you all the actual parents of teens? Do you remember being a teen?

In many instances, it's all about defending yourself. Especially, if you feel you are being wrongly accused/singled out/etc. It's not disrespect, it's trying to state your case. As you grow into adulthood, you learn the time and the place to do this but teens are emotional and generally want to immediately defend their character.

The trophy generation at its worst.

Indeed. So what's now happened is those kids are all pumped up because they got a cop fired. And they will feel pretty invincible. Would love to see where those same kids are in a year...two years....

What an asinine leap in logic.

Your condemnation of the teens and their future is telling.

Not so much. It's a huge medal these kids got. Don't underestimate the arrogance and stupidity of teens.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone seen what one defender of the cop in question--who also happens to be a schoolteacher in TX--wrote on her FB page?

“I’m going to just go ahead and say it … the blacks are the ones causing the problems and this ‘racial tension.’ I guess that’s what happens when you flunk out of school and have no education. I’m sure their parents are just as guilty for not knowing what their kids were doing; or knew it and didn’t care. I’m almost to the point of wanting them all segregated on one side of town so they can hurt each other and leave the innocent people alone,” Fitzgibbons wrote in the since-deleted post.

http://www.salon.com/2015/06/11/im_almost_to_the_point_of_wanting_them_all_segregated_texas_teacher_pens_breathtakingly_racist_mckinney_post/

Disgusting and outrageous. I hope she is fired. As suspected, the cowardly racist deleted her post. I'd respect her more if she left it up and owned it.

She has been fired. I am not sure that these repeated social media mobs that get people fired are a good thing. I am a pretty firm believer in the right to be an asshole from time to time. She deserves all the criticism in the world and maybe some assigned research on racial segregation, but firing for a Facebook post seems a bit much.

I agree. One of the reasons why I'm such as strong conservative is because I DO believe she has a right to her own views - freedom of speech. I don't agree, however, that she should be assigned research because she disagrees with the progressive viewpoint, any more than I think progressives need to do research into Christian viewpoints.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone seen what one defender of the cop in question--who also happens to be a schoolteacher in TX--wrote on her FB page?

“I’m going to just go ahead and say it … the blacks are the ones causing the problems and this ‘racial tension.’ I guess that’s what happens when you flunk out of school and have no education. I’m sure their parents are just as guilty for not knowing what their kids were doing; or knew it and didn’t care. I’m almost to the point of wanting them all segregated on one side of town so they can hurt each other and leave the innocent people alone,” Fitzgibbons wrote in the since-deleted post.

http://www.salon.com/2015/06/11/im_almost_to_the_point_of_wanting_them_all_segregated_texas_teacher_pens_breathtakingly_racist_mckinney_post/

Disgusting and outrageous. I hope she is fired. As suspected, the cowardly racist deleted her post. I'd respect her more if she left it up and owned it.

She has been fired. I am not sure that these repeated social media mobs that get people fired are a good thing. I am a pretty firm believer in the right to be an asshole from time to time. She deserves all the criticism in the world and maybe some assigned research on racial segregation, but firing for a Facebook post seems a bit much.

I disagree, but mainly because she is a teacher. I would not want her representing my school. And, as a black parent, I would not want her teaching my children.

But isn't that the same argument made by those that don't want gay or transgender teachers? Her views are abhorrent, no doubt, but there will always be someone who finds someone else's views to be abhorrent. But she will probably pick up a few hundred grand in a GoFundMe account over the next few days. The right wing loves their martyrs. So maybe, win-win in the end.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are any of you all the actual parents of teens? Do you remember being a teen?

In many instances, it's all about defending yourself. Especially, if you feel you are being wrongly accused/singled out/etc. It's not disrespect, it's trying to state your case. As you grow into adulthood, you learn the time and the place to do this but teens are emotional and generally want to immediately defend their character.

The trophy generation at its worst.

Indeed. So what's now happened is those kids are all pumped up because they got a cop fired. And they will feel pretty invincible. Would love to see where those same kids are in a year...two years....

What an asinine leap in logic.

Your condemnation of the teens and their future is telling.

WRONG and it's interesting how you are faulting THEM for the way that crazy cop acted. Outrageous, really.

Not so much. It's a huge medal these kids got. Don't underestimate the arrogance and stupidity of teens.

[Anonymous]

*WRONG and it's interesting how you are faulting THEM for the way that crazy cop acted. Outrageous, really.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone seen what one defender of the cop in question--who also happens to be a schoolteacher in TX--wrote on her FB page?

“I’m going to just go ahead and say it … the blacks are the ones causing the problems and this ‘racial tension.’ I guess that’s what happens when you flunk out of school and have no education. I’m sure their parents are just as guilty for not knowing what their kids were doing; or knew it and didn’t care. I’m almost to the point of wanting them all segregated on one side of town so they can hurt each other and leave the innocent people alone,” Fitzgibbons wrote in the since-deleted post.

http://www.salon.com/2015/06/11/im_almost_to_the_point_of_wanting_them_all_segregated_texas_teacher_pens_breathtakingly_racist_mckinney_post/

Disgusting and outrageous. I hope she is fired. As suspected, the cowardly racist deleted her post. I'd respect her more if she left it up and owned it.

She has been fired. I am not sure that these repeated social media mobs that get people fired are a good thing. I am a pretty firm believer in the right to be an asshole from time to time. She deserves all the criticism in the world and maybe some assigned research on racial segregation, but firing for a Facebook post seems a bit much.

I agree. One of the reasons why I'm such as strong conservative is because I DO believe she has a right to her own views - freedom of speech. I don't agree, however, that she should be assigned research because she disagrees with the progressive viewpoint, any more than I think progressives need to do research into Christian viewpoints.

What makes you think progressives don't understand Christian viewpoints? I think anyone who wants to return to racial segregation probably doesn't understand the reality of it.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone seen what one defender of the cop in question--who also happens to be a schoolteacher in TX--wrote on her FB page?

“I’m going to just go ahead and say it … the blacks are the ones causing the problems and this ‘racial tension.’ I guess that’s what happens when you flunk out of school and have no education. I’m sure their parents are just as guilty for not knowing what their kids were doing; or knew it and didn’t care. I’m almost to the point of wanting them all segregated on one side of town so they can hurt each other and leave the innocent people alone,” Fitzgibbons wrote in the since-deleted post.

http://www.salon.com/2015/06/11/im_almost_to_the_point_of_wanting_them_all_segregated_texas_teacher_pens_breathtakingly_racist_mckinney_post/

Disgusting and outrageous. I hope she is fired. As suspected, the cowardly racist deleted her post. I'd respect her more if she left it up and owned it.

She has been fired. I am not sure that these repeated social media mobs that get people fired are a good thing. I am a pretty firm believer in the right to be an asshole from time to time. She deserves all the criticism in the world and maybe some assigned research on racial segregation, but firing for a Facebook post seems a bit much.

I disagree, but mainly because she is a teacher. I would not want her representing my school. And, as a black parent, I would not want her teaching my children.

But isn't that the same argument made by those that don't want gay or transgender teachers? Her views are abhorrent, no doubt, but there will always be someone who finds someone else's views to be abhorrent. But she will probably pick up a few hundred grand in a GoFundMe account over the next few days. The right wing loves their martyrs. So maybe, win-win in the end.

I don't get what you mean here.

And, sure, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Most certainly. But calling for a return to the Jim Crow era when blacks were subjected to horrible treatment...that's a step too far.

Not to mention, how dumb is she to even post this crap? I mean, what did she expect to happen? Who posts stuff like this and not understand that there will be consequences? I'm tempted to believe this is all a ploy to get rich quick.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone seen what one defender of the cop in question--who also happens to be a schoolteacher in TX--wrote on her FB page?

“I’m going to just go ahead and say it … the blacks are the ones causing the problems and this ‘racial tension.’ I guess that’s what happens when you flunk out of school and have no education. I’m sure their parents are just as guilty for not knowing what their kids were doing; or knew it and didn’t care. I’m almost to the point of wanting them all segregated on one side of town so they can hurt each other and leave the innocent people alone,” Fitzgibbons wrote in the since-deleted post.

http://www.salon.com/2015/06/11/im_almost_to_the_point_of_wanting_them_all_segregated_texas_teacher_pens_breathtakingly_racist_mckinney_post/

Disgusting and outrageous. I hope she is fired. As suspected, the cowardly racist deleted her post. I'd respect her more if she left it up and owned it.

She has been fired. I am not sure that these repeated social media mobs that get people fired are a good thing. I am a pretty firm believer in the right to be an asshole from time to time. She deserves all the criticism in the world and maybe some assigned research on racial segregation, but firing for a Facebook post seems a bit much.

Maybe if she worked at Macy's but this person was a teacher.
She dies not have the right to poison the minds of children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Casebolt had just come from a scene where a man had blown his brains out in front of his family.

I'm going to give him a pass on being a bit emotional that day.

Y'all can behave as you will. Carry on.

Imagine if the chief had this information when he made his first statements. Alas, he caved to media pressure.

What makes you think the chief didn't?

Because the chief had a press conference where he said the investigation is being transferred to Internal Affairs. Even if he had this 1 piece of information, he does not have all of the information. I doubt the chief had the information, he is a politician, not a LEO.

That's not a very convincing answer.

Do you have information that the chief was informed of the 2 suicide calls that the officer handled. Did I miss that news report.

I am also not convinced.

You are asking me to support an assertion that I did not make. The person who makes claims about the Chief's knowledge should be the one to support their assertions.

On 6/11 you stated that the police chief said he actions are "indefensible", and you imagined there was no reason for his actions. Knowing what you know now, do you think being on the scene with brains spattered to a wall the same day is a reason for his actions? I can't imagine a boss that is so insensitive to an employee that he knew he spent hours with family of a dead man who had brains spattered on the wall and then went on to defame his character.

Maybe the chief is that stupid, but I will give him the benefit of the doubt.

I'm sorry, but LEO encounter dead people as part of the job. If he was overwhelmed, he should have allowed others officers to take the call and reported to the police clinic.

Again, not true. Gosh such ignorance about cops.

Most beat cops rarely have call like this, homicide cops are different, but beat cops do not normally take calks like this. In good police forces, they have counseling after very disturbing calls. For example, when the father in upper MoCo hanged his children the beat police that responded to that call were taken off calls for the night and counseling spoke with them the next day. It is the responsibility of his supervisor to make that call.

Patrol, beat cops to you, are the first to arrive on the scene. They are there before detectives, swat, csi, medical examiners, I'd, etc. they are the first to arrive in almost every, if not every situation. They call the others in after assessing the situation. If there is an attic shooter on k street tomorrow, you patrol officer is there well ahead of swat. If there is a robbery in process followed by a homicide, the patrol officer is responding and patrol passes it off to the homicide detectives upon their subsequent arrival. Patrol officers, also known to you as beat cops, make up the vast majority of police officers in every department. They are the backbone of police. Thank you very much n

When somebody is dead they are to immediately secure the area and get the hell out, so they don't contaminate the scene. But still there are how many deaths and how many police? It is rare for a beat cop to deal with this, maybe once every 5 years, tops. Homicide cops deal with it daily, beat cops rarely. Thank you very much.

Haha. The patrol cop is there securing the scene before the arrival of the homicide detective. So Patrol has seen the deceased., especially if they work in an urban area. Thank you very much. And in all these shootings that have made the news, it was your beat cops involved in the shootings.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone seen what one defender of the cop in question--who also happens to be a schoolteacher in TX--wrote on her FB page?

“I’m going to just go ahead and say it … the blacks are the ones causing the problems and this ‘racial tension.’ I guess that’s what happens when you flunk out of school and have no education. I’m sure their parents are just as guilty for not knowing what their kids were doing; or knew it and didn’t care. I’m almost to the point of wanting them all segregated on one side of town so they can hurt each other and leave the innocent people alone,” Fitzgibbons wrote in the since-deleted post.

http://www.salon.com/2015/06/11/im_almost_to_the_point_of_wanting_them_all_segregated_texas_teacher_pens_breathtakingly_racist_mckinney_post/

Disgusting and outrageous. I hope she is fired. As suspected, the cowardly racist deleted her post. I'd respect her more if she left it up and owned it.

She has been fired. I am not sure that these repeated social media mobs that get people fired are a good thing. I am a pretty firm believer in the right to be an asshole from time to time. She deserves all the criticism in the world and maybe some assigned research on racial segregation, but firing for a Facebook post seems a bit much.

I agree. One of the reasons why I'm such as strong conservative is because I DO believe she has a right to her own views - freedom of speech. I don't agree, however, that she should be assigned research because she disagrees with the progressive viewpoint, any more than I think progressives need to do research into Christian viewpoints.

What makes you think progressives don't understand Christian viewpoints? I think anyone who wants to return to racial segregation probably doesn't understand the reality of it.

If they understood Christian viewpoints, they wouldn't be all about the forcing them out of business because they didn't tow the progressive line.

I don't think she wants to return to racial segregation as you see it. I dare say that she's referring only to the criminal element, given she's stating also that they can hurt each other. That's how I read her post. Often-times, in 'bad' neighborhoods, it's 10% ruining it for the 90%. I'd love to separate out that 10% so the 90% can live in peace.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone seen what one defender of the cop in question--who also happens to be a schoolteacher in TX--wrote on her FB page?

“I’m going to just go ahead and say it … the blacks are the ones causing the problems and this ‘racial tension.’ I guess that’s what happens when you flunk out of school and have no education. I’m sure their parents are just as guilty for not knowing what their kids were doing; or knew it and didn’t care. I’m almost to the point of wanting them all segregated on one side of town so they can hurt each other and leave the innocent people alone,” Fitzgibbons wrote in the since-deleted post.

http://www.salon.com/2015/06/11/im_almost_to_the_point_of_wanting_them_all_segregated_texas_teacher_pens_breathtakingly_racist_mckinney_post/

Disgusting and outrageous. I hope she is fired. As suspected, the cowardly racist deleted her post. I'd respect her more if she left it up and owned it.

She has been fired. I am not sure that these repeated social media mobs that get people fired are a good thing. I am a pretty firm believer in the right to be an asshole from time to time. She deserves all the criticism in the world and maybe some assigned research on racial segregation, but firing for a Facebook post seems a bit much.

Maybe if she worked at Macy's but this person was a teacher.
She dies not have the right to poison the minds of children.

Again, that is exactly the argument used to oppose gay and transgender teachers. Some claim that such teachers will poison the children's minds. I think a single Facebook post is pretty weak grounds for judging a person's entire character, but even if accurate, is there any evidence that her views have negatively impacted her teaching? I'm sure none of us know.